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[SPECS] HTC Desire Z

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OS: Android 2.2
Display: 3.7″ capacitive touchscreen
Keyboard: Slideout keyboard
Camera: 5 MP / 720p HD video capture
Internal phone storage: 1.5 GB + microSD™ memory card (SD 2.0 compatible)
Battery: 1300 mAh
WiFi
HSDPA
GPS

Desire Z uses Qualcomm MSM7230 -> Snapdragon 2nd generation
Specifications:
Scorpion 800 MHz CPU (can be safely overclocked to 1GHz = Recommanded Maximum )
Integrated 3G mobile broadband connectivity
MSM7230 support for HSPA+ networks - up to 14 Mbps downloads and 5.76 Mbps uploads
MSM7630 support for HSPA+ networks - up to 14.4 Mbps downloads and 15.761 Mbps uploads – as well as CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel A/B, GSM, GPRS and EDGE
Low-power 45nm process technology for higher integration and performance
High-definition (720p) video recording and playback up to 30 frames per second
Multiple video codecs: (MPEG-4, H.264, H.263, VC-1, DivX, DivX 3.11, Sorenson Spark, VP6)
High-performance GPU - up to 41M triangles/sec and 245M 3D pixels/sec and dedicated 3D/2D acceleration engines for Open GLES 2.0 and Open VG 1.1 acceleration
High-resolution XGA (1024x768) display support
12-megapixel camera support
Built-in eighth-generation gps engine with Standalone-GPS and Assisted-GPS modes
Support for Wi-Fi® and Bluetooth® connectivity
Multiple audio codecs: (AAC+, eAAC+, AMR, FR, EFR, HR, WB-AMR, G.729a, G.711, AAC stereo encode)
Support for mobile broadcast TV (MediaFLO™, DVB-H and ISDB-T)
Support for Android™, Brew® Mobile Platform and Windows® Phone

Internal phone storage: 1.5 GB + microSD™ memory card (SD 2.0 compatible)
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Internal memory is 4GB, just like the G2, with 1.5 GB free/available (same "issue" as the G2 as to where this memory has "gone").
Also, the stuff in the spec list for the processor is kinda misleading. Yes, the chip might have support for XGA displays and 12-megapixel cameras, but the Desire Z has neither of those features in its own hardware.

Desire z has a gorilla glass ??

timurak said:
Desire z has a gorilla glass ??
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No, it doesn't. This was established over on the G2 forums.

Shouldn't the DZ have 512MB of RAM by htc.com and wikipedia..?
But mine shows 256.. That's ofcourse if I checked it right (Settings->Applications->Running services and the bottom numbers together ) Mine feels kinda slow for a high end phone sometimes..

Alluuu said:
Shouldn't the DZ have 512MB of RAM by htc.com and wikipedia..?
But mine shows 256.. That's ofcourse if I checked it right (Settings->Applications->Running services and the bottom numbers together ) Mine feels kinda slow for a high end phone sometimes..
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How much free RAM do you have though ? If you have a load free, then I doubt RAM is the cause of any slowdowns on your phone.
I don't think all 512 MB is available to the OS, some is used by the radio.

the bottom bar reads:
Other: 79MB in 4 Avail: 72MB+ 137MB in 12
Haven't been able to totally figure out what the whole thing means, but is there a way to know how much total RAM I have? Wouldn't feel right to have a phone with half the RAM it should have..
Does anyone else experience a little slow camera when moving the picture around? That seems weird since, a long time ago I had the first gen iPhone, and even thats camera was smooth and fast.. There is also a slight freeze before flipping the screen to and from landscape when opening/closing the keyboard..
Thanks for your help though

Alluuu said:
the bottom bar reads:
Other: 79MB in 4 Avail: 72MB+ 137MB in 12
Haven't been able to totally figure out what the whole thing means, but is there a way to know how much total RAM I have? Wouldn't feel right to have a phone with half the RAM it should have..
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I'm new to Android, so learning as I go. But since that first bit says "Other", I'm guessing you need to also add in the sizes of the services currently running, listed above that.
When I add all those figures up for mine, I get to around 366 MB, which I think is about right for the amount of RAM available to Android.
Sounds like you have about 200 MB free, so I don't think you need to worry about free RAM.

I thought of that, but with the applications it adds up to a little over 300, 330or something like that..
So I assume you don't have those lags and freezes on your phone ?

Alluuu said:
I thought of that, but with the applications it adds up to a little over 300, 330or something like that..
So I assume you don't have those lags and freezes on your phone ?
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Correct, mine is fine so far.

steviewevie said:
No, it doesn't. This was established over on the G2 forums.
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sorry for bringing up old topic.
but why does this one says it's gorilla glasS?
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/featured-products

Alluuu said:
the bottom bar reads:
Other: 79MB in 4 Avail: 72MB+ 137MB in 12
Haven't been able to totally figure out what the whole thing means, but is there a way to know how much total RAM I have? Wouldn't feel right to have a phone with half the RAM it should have..
Does anyone else experience a little slow camera when moving the picture around? That seems weird since, a long time ago I had the first gen iPhone, and even thats camera was smooth and fast.. There is also a slight freeze before flipping the screen to and from landscape when opening/closing the keyboard..
Thanks for your help though
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I found a small tool called "Android Assistant" in the market that displays some useful data e.g. it shows that my DZ has a total of 373.23 MB and it also gives a break up between used and free (generally that hovers around 230 MB used and 140-143 MB free - ofcourse depends on what else I am running at any time). You might want to give it a try. It also provides easy ways to kill processes that you don't need or empty Caches of various applications that you may have run in the recent past who haven't emptied their cache on exit.

Total RAM, not Available RAM
I see that everyone's discussed this to death - but I'm still confused about the RAM on this phone. When I see screenies of ROMs I'm about to download, they generally show the poster's DZ as having "Total RAM - 512MB", but any time I check my phone - it shows Total as 368MB. Is this because of the system overhead, and if so - with this much memory allocated, why does it need to consume so much MORE for the OS? If not, is there something wrong with my phone?
Sorry for beating a dead horse, I'm just still trying to make sense of it. Thanks to anyone who can help!

Flash05 said:
sorry for bringing up old topic.
but why does this one says it's gorilla glasS?
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/featured-products
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I had a feeling it did have gorilla glass, it feels about the same as my cousins samsung epic.
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[Specs] Sony Xperia Z3 Compact Specifications - Members Thoughts

Hey all
Here Sony have gone against the past "mini" devices, the compact is a fully featured little brother of the flagship Xperia Z3. Boasting the same chipset, albeit with reduced RAM. It also features the same PS4 remote play feature. Something I'm sure we would all like to see ported to other devices. Its a promising Smartphone for those who feel the shear size of the flagship devices are getting out of hand.
Lets take a look at the Sony Xperia Z3 Compact's specifications, feel free to comment
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Specifications:
Display - IPS LCD, 720 x 1280 pixels, 4.6 inches (~319 ppi pixel density)
Chipset - Qualcomm MSM8974AC Snapdragon 801
CPU - Quad-core 2.5 GHz Krait 400
GPU - Adreno 330
RAM - 2GB
Memory - 16GB, microSD, up to 128 GB
Camera - 20.7 MP, 5248 х 3936 pixels, autofocus, LED flash. Video: [email protected],[email protected], [email protected], HDR
Secondary Camera - 2.2 MP. Video: [email protected]
Sensors - Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass
Connectivity - Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot, Bluetooth v4.0, A2DP, LE, apt-X, NFC
Water/Dust Protection - IP68
Battery - 2600 mAh
Dimensions - 127.3 x 64.9 x 8.6 mm
Weight - 129 g
Source: gsmarena

Memory is 16gb, micro sd, up to 128gb.
http://developer.sonymobile.com/downloads/whitepapers/xperia-z3-compact-white-paper/

Sofly999 said:
Memory is 16gb, micro sd, up to 128gb.
Thanks for the link to the white paper. Originally I thought they might have removed/disabled ANT+ as it wasn't listed in the product website but is mentioned in the white paper. Looking to use it for cycling and hoping with battery life it can do up to 6 hours with GPS enabled.
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Regarding expandable storage, it isn't really limited to 128GB, it's just that nothing larger exists. Technically according to the microSDXC spec it is limited to 2TB expandable storage.

Has anyone had any confirmation on whether there'll be a glove or pen mode?

Rekoil said:
Regarding expandable storage, it isn't really limited to 128GB, it's just that nothing larger exists. Technically according to the microSDXC spec it is limited to 2TB expandable storage.
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I don't think they say 128gb max, because there isn't any bigger, but because Sony itself supports till that size. The system itself supports bigger of course.

720p with snapdragon 801. This thing will fly and battery life will be better than z1c
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Sofly999 said:
Memory is 16gb, micro sd, up to 128gb.
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Thanks for correcting this, it has been erroneously reported as 64GB in a lot of places

Cheers guys:good: Updated the OP.

Looking forward to the 20.7 mp camera. Currently have an HTC one m7, worst camera ever. Also like the compact size and decent battery capacity.

I wish they have 3gb ram and 32gb memory

jwchen17 said:
I wish they have 3gb ram and 32gb memory
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Ditto. Although would the reduced RAM offer better battery life? The 720p screen was a smart move and I completely understand that decision, but I'm wondering why they only went with 2 gb of RAM? People will say, Who needs 3 gb? But that's just a tired answer, why upgrade anything at all then? It's been shown that the extra RAM would improve performance, but I'm curious if it also affects battery.

boojay said:
Ditto. Although would the reduced RAM offer better battery life? The 720p screen was a smart move and I completely understand that decision, but I'm wondering why they only went with 2 gb of RAM? People will say, Who needs 3 gb? But that's just a tired answer, why upgrade anything at all then? It's been shown that the extra RAM would improve performance, but I'm curious if it also affects battery.
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Hmm yeah, I don't know. I guess it does matters 'a lot', in theorie 1gb extra ram would add 33% more power consumption.
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Dsteppa said:
Hmm yeah, I don't know. I guess it does matters 'a lot', in theorie 1gb extra ram would add 33% more power consumption.
Sent from my C6603
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In that case the battery would be used just from the memory. Not from screen, network etc.
2Gb are enough, the z3 needs 3 because of the full hd display because there is no separate graphics ram.

have the 2GB RAM been confirmed?... gsmarena states in all previews that it will have 3GB as it's bigger counterpart... but the specs page say it's 2GB, so I was wondering (or hoping) if it was a "typo" of them when making the specs page .
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oh well... Sony site says 2GB. Link. It should be more than enough though...

Against fist rumors it seems that the bezel/frame is not aluminum.
Sony used some plastic for the sides.
After using my beloved One S for two years now i think i will miss the feel of the surface.
Hope the glass and the frame will not be prone to scratches.
But i'm really tempted to get this phone and hope some Devs will give us some fabulous roms.

This will be my next phone!!!!
i'm just waiting for clove.co.uk to get it in stock and hopefully bundle one of the smartbands/watches w/it again like the Z1 was.
I'm an AT&T USA customer and was previously on Tmobile USA and loved my Xperia Z1 and haven't upgraded phones since getting it last nov. The biggest feature that Sony has above everyone else? Waterproof phones.
Plus, a 'mini' phone that has the exact flagship specs = PURE WIN!!! and to top it off, PS4 remote play.. oh yea!

The Z3C could have been the ideal phone for me if only it had a few "minor" changes. First and foremost 32 GB of internal storage then 3 GB of ram and the matte back surface of the Z3C tablet.
Hope Sony will adress these "issues" while keeping the same footprint.

Invalid_GR said:
The Z3C could have been the ideal phone for me if only it had a few "minor" changes. First and foremost 32 GB of internal storage then 3 GB of ram and the matte back surface of the Z3C tablet.
Hope Sony will adress these "issues" while keeping the same footprint.
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There is no such thing as a 'perfect' phone.
They could have added these things easily, but didn't chose to do so because it would consume more power.
The matte back surface is purely based on taste

Dsteppa said:
There is no such thing as a 'perfect' phone.
They could have added these things easily, but didn't chose to do so because it would consume more power.
The matte back surface is purely based on taste
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I actually prefer the glass-sandwhich look. I'm coming from a Nexus4, which I've realised since the beginning was too big for my taste, and this z3compact seems the perfect phone for me.

[SPECS] Nexus 9 Specifications - Members Thoughts.

Hey all
Its good to see HTC back in the tablet game! This device features Google's latest version of Android (lollipop) nicknamed Android "L". Feel free to discuss the hardware or the overall design of the Nexus 9:good:
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Specifications:
Display - IPS LCD,1536 x 2048 pixels, 8.9 inches (~281 ppi pixel density)
Chipset - Nvidia Tegra K1
CPU - Dual-core 2.3 GHz Denver
GPU - Kepler DX1
RAM - 2GB
Memory - 16/32GB
Camera - 8MP, 3264 x 2448 pixels, autofocus, LED flash
Secondary Camera - 1.6MP
Sensors - Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass
Connectivity - Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot, Bluetooth v4.0
Battery - Non-removable 6700 mAh
Dimensions - 228.2 x 153.7 x 7.9 mm
Weight - 425g
Source: gsmarena.

ForumNinja said:
Hey all
Its good to see HTC back in the tablet game! This device features Google's latest version of Android (lollipop) nicknamed Android "L". Feel free to discuss the hardware or the overall design of the Nexus 9:good:
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Specifications:
Display - IPS LCD,1536 x 2048 pixels, 8.9 inches (~281 ppi pixel density)
Chipset - Nvidia Tegra K1
CPU - Quad-core 2.3 GHz Denver
GPU - Kepler DX1
RAM - 2GB
Memory - 16/32GB
Camera - 8MP, 3264 x 2448 pixels, autofocus, LED flash
Secondary Camera - 1.6MP
Sensors - Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass
Connectivity - Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot, Bluetooth v4.0
Battery - Non-removable 6700 mAh
Dimensions - 228.2 x 153.7 x 7.9 mm
Weight - 425g
Source: gsmarena.
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Its a big!! And a giant upgrade. coming from the nexus 7 2012

Is Nexus 9 also have turbo charging like the Nexus 6?

jjardinero.01 said:
Is Nexus 9 also have turbo charging like the Nexus 6?
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doesn't matter we will make it happen
Kernel hacking

I don't think so I think the fast charging is a feature built in to the Qualcomm chips.
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For me is 3 things that are causing noise:
1) The pixel density is what's causing the first impact (not in a good way) in me. I'm no expert when it comes in judging screen but when other devices with far smaller screens as well as devices that have been in the market for a long time come up with much higher densities, it does make you wonder about this brand new flagship device that only offers 281 ppi. (And please, spare me the explanation about how irrelevant pixel density is in relation to the smaller screen sizes, I understand that).
2) Also, the 2GB RAM (as opposed to 3).
3) The portability aspect of such a big device: the physical size and weight seem to be a concern, specially when you're upgrading from the fantastically compact Nexus 7 (2013).
edited: I forgot about a 4th thing that has me deeply disappointed:
4) Lack of wireless Qi-charging capability.
But who are we kidding, being the nerds we are, we know most of us here will be getting one regardless.

Its not quad core denver chip but dual core denver chip

I agree on #1 and #3.. This is a step backwards from the DPI on the N7 and at 425g its pretty much the same as a 9.7 inch Ipad air (437g)
rdelfin said:
For me is 3 things that are causing noise:
1) The pixel density is what's causing the first impact (not in a good way) in me. I'm no expert when it comes in judging screen but when other devices with far smaller screens as well as devices that have been in the market for a long time come up with much higher densities, it does make you wonder about this brand new flagship device that only offers 281 ppi. (And please, spare me the explanation about how irrelevant pixel density is in relation to the smaller screen sizes, I understand that).
2) Also, the 2GB RAM (as opposed to 3).
3) The portability aspect of such a big device: the physical size and weight seem to be a concern, specially when you're upgrading from the fantastically compact Nexus 7 (2013).
edited: I forgot about a 4th thing that has me deeply disappointed:
4) Lack of wireless Qi-charging capability.
But who are we kidding, being the nerds we are, we know most of us here will be getting one regardless.
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I don't see any mention of a GPS in the Nexus 9... Can anyone confirm GPS (or maybe GLONASS?) capability?

Snowflake6 said:
I don't see any mention of a GPS in the Nexus 9... Can anyone confirm GPS (or maybe GLONASS?) capability?
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its there
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexus_9

I like the 4/3 form factor. Only time I have used this form factor on a tablet was on an Ipad. I personally don't like Ipad but one thing I loved is that form factor. Easier to hold and work with.
Android L looks good. I can't wait to see how fast the K1 will be using ART.
Funny to see that the N9 camera will protrude from the tablet a little bit, like on the new Iphone 6 (Iphone users complained about this). I personally don't care but I'm sure some future N9 users will complain about it.
Camera is not the best but hey, who brings a tablet to take pictures? Grab your DSLR or your phone Pple looks so stupid when taking picture using a tablet..lol. This also makes me think about something else. Why not putting a better resolution camera on the front? Personally, when I'm using my tablet camera, It's for Skype. I never took a picture using the main camera, Imo, the 8 Mp camera should be front facing so we can have descent video resolution when skyping.
2 Gb of ram is enough for me, especially when using "pure" android (no Sense or TouchWizz UI). 3Gb of ram would have raised the price too much and most users don't need 3gb.
Polycarbonate cover:
HTC were so excited when they announced that the One X was getting a uni-body poly-carbonate shell back in 2012. This polycarb. design caused so much trouble with that phone, the polycarb. body was somewhat flexible and caused bad electrical contact between main board and antennas glued inside the polycarb cover. (i.e the infamous Wifi issue of the One X) I personally don't thrust polycarb anymore, I prefer aluminium body like the M7/M8. Hopefully, they have designed the N9 so that problem will not occur again...
Tegra K1 CPU:
I also had bad experience with Tegra CPU on my One X. They announced the Tegra 3 (in 2012) to be a powerful quadcore CPU with very good power consumption using a battery-saver "companion" core to handle low-power tasks when 4 cores are not required (standby mode, playing music etc etc). Performance wasn't there (compared to the qualcomm equivalent of that year) and power consumption was really bad. I was very disappointed by Tegra CPU. Also used a Tegra 2 on my gf's Asus TF101. I prefer qualcomm cpu, much faster and power friendly. It also looks like there is more development for qualcomm CPU than Tegra CPU. But K1 is ready and Qualcomm's 810 isn't, so yes the K1 will be to most powerful chip on the mobile market, but im not optimistic about power consumption where the 810 will probably be much better when released.
Overall I think it will be a very good tablet keeping in mind that this tablet is designed for the average consumer and not for enthusiast.
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front facing speakers (boomsound) will be awesome!

a bit bummed out on only 2gb ram, no qi charging, lowish dpi but am ordering it anyways...
do really like turbo charging, ac wifi, bt apt-x, htc design and big battery...

I hate that they went big with both the 6&9. The 7" fit perfectly for my needs. Oh well...

4x3, front facing speakers, and stock Android? WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN ALL MY LIFE!?!?
This tablet will be a huge hit, despite the less-than-record-setting specs. I do wish it were cheaper, but I think people who do buy it will love it.
And it's time for 16x9 tablets to die. I hope this is the start!

jjardinero.01 said:
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Yeah it comes with a turbo charger which is weird considering the turbo charger is made by Motorola. (I forget where I read this so may not be reliable but I know I read it lol)
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4:3 is what I've been looking for in a tablet as one of my main uses for it as a medical professional is reading PDFs on the go. 16:9 or 16:10 is not the aspect ratio for reading letter-size PDFs, but it could be managed on the larger >10" tablets. Up to this point, the iPad was the best device for consuming PDFs, but now I have another choice on the market to take a look at.

roninmedia said:
4:3 is what I've been looking for in a tablet as one of my main uses for it as a medical professional is reading PDFs on the go. 16:9 or 16:10 is not the aspect ratio for reading letter-size PDFs, but it could be managed on the larger >10" tablets. Up to this point, the iPad was the best device for consuming PDFs, but now I have another choice on the market to take a look at.
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I too have been waiting for a 4/3 android option without resorting to cheapo Chinese tablets without after sale service. And to those who will explain you that 16/9 is better for movies, that is a very limited point of view in my opinion : how do iPad users do ? I mostly watch movies on my tablet in my bed, with other lights off or very dimmed, so I just can't see the bezel anyway and will gladly have a much better format for books and Internet consumption !

It's not THAT different from most other phones, but I like the size.

I hope it's dual core and not quad core so it's finally worth investing for real.

What I like:
- Tegra K1 - 'nuff said
- Android apps will automatically compile to 64bit when installed on it. The beauty of Dalvik/ART :')
- 4:3 screen - FINALLY an android tablet for working people. Working with PDFs and documents will be an absolute joy with this.
- Android updates
Cons:
- Limited storage -- what's the point of having all that power if you don't have enough storage for content to make use of it. HD games and videos use a LOT of space.
Even Apple realised that and dropped $100 off 64 and 128GB models
- eMMC 4.51 -- which peaks at 200MB/s is significantly slower than other flagships. My iPhone 5S gets over 360MB/s read speeds in benchmarks.. SSD-speeds really.
- 2GB RAM, unlikely to be a problem in the near future.
- Too expensive for what it has to offer.
All in all, I think its the best android tablet on the market now. Sad to see it out powered by the iPad Air 2 only a day after release though the difference is only minimal.
Can't wait to get mine

[SPECS] LG K10 Specifications

Hi all
This thread is intended to focus on the hardware specifications and design of the LG K10. Feel free to discuss individual components and compare them with those available in competing devices.
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Specifications (K420N):
Display - IPS LCD, 5.3 inches, 720 x 1280 pixels (~277 ppi pixel density)
Chipset - Qualcomm MSM8916 Snapdragon 410
CPU - Quad-core 1.2 GHz Cortex-A53
GPU - Adreno 306
RAM - 1.5 GB
Memory - 16 GB, microSD
Camera - 13 MP, f/2.2, autofocus, LED flash
Secondary Camera - 5 MP
Sensors - Accelerometer, proximity
Connectivity - Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, WiFi Direct, Wi-Fi hotspot, Bluetooth v4.1
Battery - 2300 mAh
Dimensions - 146 x 74.8 x 8.8 mm
Weight - 142 g
Color Availability - White, Indigo, Gold
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I got the 2gb variant with Android 6.0 out of the box. LG-k430dsY. I'm from the Philippines.

ermond012 said:
I got the 2gb variant with Android 6.0 out of the box. LG-k430dsY. I'm from the Philippines.
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How is the battery life sir?

raizor6th said:
How is the battery life sir?
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Well, the battery is ok. When I use mobile data I only get max of 2hrs SoT (2hrs to 3hrs I guess). But when I use wi-fi instead, SoT can reach more than 6hrs.

ermond012 said:
Well, the battery is ok. When I use mobile data I only get max of 2hrs SoT (2hrs to 3hrs I guess). But when I use wi-fi instead, SoT can reach more than 6hrs.
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Oh.
It looks like I'm gonna have to purchase a powerbank since I used mobile data most of the time if I am gonna buy this phone.
How about root access, did you able to root it?
By the way I'm from Philippines too.

You can check my screenshots for reference of my current battery usage from 100%.?
No, I haven't tried rooting it yet and I don't have any plans. Hehe...? I bought mine from MemoXpress SM North EDSA and it's a Mediatek variant which comes with 2gb of RAM, 13mp rear cam, 5mp front-facing cam, 16gb internal and Marshmallow out of the box.?

ermond012 said:
You can check my screenshots for reference of my current battery usage from 100%.
No, I haven't tried rooting it yet and I don't have any plans. Hehe... I bought mine from MemoXpress SM North EDSA and it's a Mediatek variant which comes with 2gb of RAM, 13mp rear cam, 5mp front-facing cam, 16gb internal and Marshmallow out of the box.
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That's good news. But why'd you choose midiatek?

raizor6th said:
That's good news. But why'd you choose midiatek?
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I didn't know that it was Mediatek variant.? I just learned that it was when i installed CPU-Z like one day after I purchased this.?

ermond012 said:
I didn't know that it was Mediatek variant. I just learned that it was when i installed CPU-Z like one day after I purchased this.
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Oh, that's neither you are unfortunate nor fortunate since the snapdragon variant has only 1GB of ram though I'm not sure about that..

raizor6th said:
Oh, that's neither you are unfortunate nor fortunate since the snapdragon variant has only 1GB of ram though I'm not sure about that..
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Agree.? this is my first time to use a Mediatek variant so i do not know anything abt Mediatek devices like if they get frequent updates like the Snapdragon ones.?

ermond012 said:
Agree. this is my first time to use a Mediatek variant so i do not know anything abt Mediatek devices like if they get frequent updates like the Snapdragon ones.
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Mediatek is also a popular chip set used by some large smatphone manufacturers and is been doing great contribution to developers since there were many mediatek devices with a number of custom rom have been developed. And it is too early to expect updates at the moment maybe later next month ?.
I'm still comparing this device with lenovo a7000+, asus zenfone max.
Maybe you can help me decide ?

Hopefully LG will give more updates to K10.?
I don't know abt Lenovo but I was choosing between this and Zenfone Max as well. What i like abt Max is its battery but honestly I do notnlike the UI of ASUS.? also the screen of K10 is better than Max's. When it comes to camera functionality, Max is better as it offers more modes though not sure abt the image quality. Is Max a midrange?

ermond012 said:
Hopefully LG will give more updates to K10.
I don't know abt Lenovo but I was choosing between this and Zenfone Max as well. What i like abt Max is its battery but honestly I do notnlike the UI of ASUS. also the screen of K10 is better than Max's. When it comes to camera functionality, Max is better as it offers more modes though not sure abt the image quality. Is Max a midrange?
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Definitely max is in mid range device. I agree with the elegant design of k10 i hope that the battery can be replace by higher capacity.. I'm planning to buy this phone on may.

Just received mine 2 days ago, bought on eBay from Taiwan (needed the 700mhz freq for Telstra woohoo).
Going by CPU-Z mine is an Octacore MediaTek MT6753 1.30GHz with GPU Mali - T720, 2GB ram.
For the price $249au - posted, its an awesome phone. I do agree with some reviews about the dullish screen, but its not a dealbreaker for me.
4G Telstra works fantastic, havent taken a lot of camera shots as the weather has been average here atm.
I did an AnTutu benchmark, 35516.
Antutu and CPU-Z pics below..

I've LTE version and the chipset is MT6753 with 2GB RAM. It comes with marshmallow. Couldn't find time to test battery life. I'll try to build CM13 as soon as possible. Mine model is K430TR.
EDIT: @firthy , what's that new button on navbar? I don't have it.

berkantkz said:
I've LTE version and the chipset is MT6753 with 2GB RAM. It comes with marshmallow. Couldn't find time to test battery life. I'll try to build CM13 as soon as possible. Mine model is K430TR.
EDIT: @firthy , what's that new button on navbar? I don't have it.
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For Dual SIM, if you want to change the default SIM you will use.
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ermond012 said:
For Dual SIM, if you want to change the default SIM you will use.
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Got it. I've single sim variant so I don't have. I thought something like it is for NFC.
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berkantkz said:
Got it. I've single sim variant so I don't have. I thought something like it is for NFC.
Sent from my LG K10 LTE using XDA Labs
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Nice... Mine is a Dual variant... Unfortunately, K10 does not support NFC...?
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Hi, I have 2 questions for people who have the DSY variant. Can you put 128gb micro sd on it? I read the spec on the net that it only supports up to 32 gb. Is it right?
Also, is this mediatek chipset faster than snapdragon 800? Can someone tell me as I am really new about this.
thanks ....
I'll be getting it in 2 weeks... as I already pre order it...

stingbandel said:
Hi, I have 2 questions for people who have the DSY variant. Can you put 128gb micro sd on it? I read the spec on the net that it only supports up to 32 gb. Is it right?
Also, is this mediatek chipset faster than snapdragon 800? Can someone tell me as I am really new about this.
thanks ....
I'll be getting it in 2 weeks... as I already pre order it...
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It says on GSMArena that it's expandable up to 32gb of SD card only but some users say it can read 64gb SD card. Not sure with the 128gb one.
I am using the Mediatek variant and I can say that it's very smooth. Not sure with the Snapdragon variant.
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What to test? Galaxy S20+ Exynos vs Snapdragon

Hellu guys!
I own an exynos S20+, tomorrow I will receive the snapdragon version and for a few days I will have them both. At the end of the week I'll returning one of them.
If you're trying to decide which version suits you best and you are still undecided, please tell me and I will test for you.

mishufac said:
Hellu guys!
At the end of the week I'll returning one of them..
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Can tell you right now you'll be keeping the snapdragon

jasons1004 said:
Can tell you right now you'll be keeping the snapdragon
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This what I think also. I'm pretty disappointed by the exynos since I got S10e last year

Could you check if there are any differences in network connectivity? Wifi should be the same, but im afraid the LTE module differs and maybe SMS isnt working properly.
I only had the comparison back with the S8 and the SD version couldnt even get a 4G signal (had a smaller german carrier, but the bigger ones struggled aswell)

K4Y3R said:
Could you check if there are any differences in network connectivity? Wifi should be the same, but im afraid the LTE module differs and maybe SMS isnt working properly.
I only had the comparison back with the S8 and the SD version couldnt even get a 4G signal (had a smaller german carrier, but the bigger ones struggled aswell)
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Not sure what you mean but I can check something if needed. I don't have any sms issues.

Could you make a quick camera comparison between those two models? 12MP 4:3 photos outdoor, low light, 4k 30 video, autofocus and selfie camera at least. I'm curious how image processing works on both and if there is big difference or not. Thanks

K4Y3R said:
Could you check if there are any differences in network connectivity? Wifi should be the same, but im afraid the LTE module differs and maybe SMS isnt working properly.
I only had the comparison back with the S8 and the SD version couldnt even get a 4G signal (had a smaller german carrier, but the bigger ones struggled aswell)
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I just received it today. I live in an area with great 4G+ coverage and I didn`t noticed anything changed between SD vs exynos. I made calls, sms, 4G+ mobile data without problems.
Andrino said:
Could you make a quick camera comparison between those two models? 12MP 4:3 photos outdoor, low light, 4k 30 video, autofocus and selfie camera at least. I'm curious how image processing works on both and if there is big difference or not. Thanks
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I will do it, probably tomorrow.

mishufac said:
Hellu guys!
I own an exynos S20+, tomorrow I will receive the snapdragon version and for a few days I will have them both. At the end of the week I'll returning one of them.
If you're trying to decide which version suits you best and you are still undecided, please tell me and I will test for you.
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First, update both handsets with the latest FW versions. Post setting them up with same apps and settings,
- Get an idea about each device's batterylife using only (a) Wi-Fi (b) Mobile data in similar usage pattern.
- Play some games and see which one does better. Check for the amount of heat each one generates as well.
- Click pictures of any subject(s) near and far in different lighting conditions and see which one does better.
- On day to day usage, see which one overall feels faster at everything.
etc..
It's clear that the SD is the better one with all those tests floating around the WEB, especially considering the lab tests, but you having a first hand experience can share as well:good:

did you buy the US snapdragon version or unlocked bootloader?

Virgo_Guy said:
First, update both handsets with the latest FW versions. Post setting them up with same apps and settings,
- Get an idea about each device's batterylife using only (a) Wi-Fi (b) Mobile data in similar usage pattern.
- Play some games and see which one does better. Check for the amount of heat each one generates as well.
- Click pictures of any subject(s) near and far in different lighting conditions and see which one does better.
- On day to day usage, see which one overall feels faster at everything.
etc..
It's clear that the SD is the better one with all those tests floating around the WEB, especially considering the lab tests, but you having a first hand experience can share as well:good:
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I updated both on ATCH firmware and wiped the system data.
On WiFi I see mainly the same consumption (3-5 % in favor of the SD version) but on mobile data the exynos consumes more the difference goes to 10%.
Side by side, the SD opens games a bit faster, but it's not a huge difference.
On day to day usage both feel very snappy, but the main big difference it's about the heat that the exynos it generates. With both side by side, I opened the same apps and after 20 minutes the exynos CPU had 56C and the SD 36C degrees.
The battery temperature was 39C on the exynos and 34C on the SD.
I took a lot of pictures and videos with all the cameras in all the conditions: I couldn't decide the winner here. Some are better on the exynos, and some on the SD, I feel that on the SD they are sharper, but the exynos reproducts colours more correct.
Games are smoother on the SD, especially after 15-20 mins of playing. Exynos it's geting hot and I believe that thermal throttle makes them a lot worse.
Because of the heat that it generates and the better battery life, I'll be sticking with the SD version.

masri1987 said:
did you buy the US snapdragon version or unlocked bootloader?
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I received the Korean version G986N. I don't how to check the bootloader status. In developer settings I have the option "OEM Unlock"

mishufac said:
I updated both on ATCH firmware and wiped the system data.
On WiFi I see mainly the same consumption (3-5 % in favor of the SD version) but on mobile data the exynos consumes more the difference goes to 10%.
Side by side, the SD opens games a bit faster, but it's not a huge difference.
On day to day usage both feel very snappy, but the main big difference it's about the heat that the exynos it generates. With both side by side, I opened the same apps and after 20 minutes the exynos CPU had 56C and the SD 36C degrees.
The battery temperature was 39C on the exynos and 34C on the SD.
I took a lot of pictures and videos with all the cameras in all the conditions: I couldn't decide the winner here. Some are better on the exynos, and some on the SD, I feel that on the SD they are sharper, but the exynos reproducts colours more correct.
Games are smoother on the SD, especially after 15-20 mins of playing. Exynos it's geting hot and I believe that thermal throttle makes them a lot worse.
Because of the heat that it generates and the better battery life, I'll be sticking with the SD version.
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These are exactly the problems with the Exynos.The SoC used and its resulting impacts on the device in every aspect makes it almost feel like a different device altogether in the same shell.

So OP what's your conclusion?
Are the u tubers right that condemn exynos in every aspect or is it an exaggeration?
I believe you are fair without anti exynos placebo effect.
I am waiting for your conclusion.
Battery, signal, temperature?

mishufac said:
On day to day usage both feel very snappy, but the main big difference it's about the heat that the exynos it generates. With both side by side, I opened the same apps and after 20 minutes the exynos CPU had 56C and the SD 36C degrees. The battery temperature was 39C on the exynos and 34C on the SD.
Games are smoother on the SD, especially after 15-20 mins of playing. Exynos it's geting hot and I believe that thermal throttle makes them a lot worse.
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56C vs 36C CPU temp is a *huge* difference (56% increase) and will result in significant thermal throttling, as you pointed out. Forget about playing CPU-intensive games.
The battery temp difference is significant as well. Exynos battery temp is 19% higher than Snapdragon, which will definitely decrease battery longevity. Essentially, Exynos will lose ~19% battery capacity over the same period compared to SD.
Both are reasons to avoid Exynos if you have the option. Samsung makes a lot of great products, but mobile SoC is not one of them.
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NIKOSXRI said:
So OP what's your conclusion?
Are the u tubers right that condemn exynos in every aspect or is it an exaggeration?
I believe you are fair without anti exynos placebo effect.
I am waiting for your conclusion.
Battery, signal, temperature?
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I think the conclusion is pretty obvious: Avoid Exynos if possible.

NIKOSXRI said:
So OP what's your conclusion?
Are the u tubers right that condemn exynos in every aspect or is it an exaggeration?
I believe you are fair without anti exynos placebo effect.
I am waiting for your conclusion.
Battery, signal, temperature?
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I think they exagerate about the camera comparasion.
When they are both cold, they perform similar, but just after 20-30min of opening apps and watching videos (nothing stressful) the exynos gets significantly hotter in hand and after that you feel the difference in speed.
On similar conditions, I got 7hrs screen on time on exynos and 8hrs on SD. Note that the SD I got has 12GB of ram vs 8GB of the exynos.
After 15 mins of playing real racing 3, the CPU of the exynos had 58C and the SD 37C.
I live in an area with great LTE+ coverage, I have full bars on both.
When I preordered S20+ Exynos, I really hoped that Samsung resolved the issues from the s10 series, but the gap it's still there and for the same amount of money, with SD you get a better device, that's colder

Animation in developer options
Please can someone confirm interesting thing bellow?
- On Exynos in developer option animations are by default off.
- On Snapdragon version in developer option animations are by default set to 1.
I already found this on Samsung Galaxy S10 exynos vs. snapdragon. series. If you have the exynos version it seems to be same as smooth as Snapdragon, but if you turn of animation on SD you will deffinitelly get smoother enviroment cause there is not possible to switch it off on Exynos variant. Only possibility that it is switched off on Exynos I am thinkong about is that this settings are transfered also when you get from one to another device.
Please chek it and let me know.

menhir said:
Please can someone confirm interesting thing bellow?
- On Exynos in developer option animations are by default off.
- On Snapdragon version in developer option animations are by default set to 1.
I already found this on Samsung Galaxy S10 exynos vs. snapdragon. series. If you have the exynos version it seems to be same as smooth as Snapdragon, but if you turn of animation on SD you will deffinitelly get smoother enviroment cause there is not possible to switch it off on Exynos variant. Only possibility that it is switched off on Exynos I am thinkong about is that this settings are transfered also when you get from one to another device.
Please chek it and let me know.
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I'm not sure that's right .... at least here on my Exynos device.... [emoji848]
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menhir said:
On Exynos in developer option animations are by default off.
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It is not true. Default settings are x1.

mishufac said:
I think they exagerate about the camera comparasion.
When they are both cold, they perform similar, but just after 20-30min of opening apps and watching videos (nothing stressful) the exynos gets significantly hotter in hand and after that you feel the difference in speed.
On similar conditions, I got 7hrs screen on time on exynos and 8hrs on SD. Note that the SD I got has 12GB of ram vs 8GB of the exynos.
After 15 mins of playing real racing 3, the CPU of the exynos had 58C and the SD 37C.
I live in an area with great LTE+ coverage, I have full bars on both.
When I preordered S20+ Exynos, I really hoped that Samsung resolved the issues from the s10 series, but the gap it's still there and for the same amount of money, with SD you get a better device, that's colder
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Where did you buy the snapdragon version? Im thinking of doing the same in the UK

arokub said:
It is not true. Default settings are x1.
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OK, Thanks. So it must be copied during data and settings transfer from one samsung to another. Good to know!