[SPECS] Nexus 9 Specifications - Members Thoughts. - Nexus 9 General

Hey all
Its good to see HTC back in the tablet game! This device features Google's latest version of Android (lollipop) nicknamed Android "L". Feel free to discuss the hardware or the overall design of the Nexus 9:good:
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Specifications:
Display - IPS LCD,1536 x 2048 pixels, 8.9 inches (~281 ppi pixel density)
Chipset - Nvidia Tegra K1
CPU - Dual-core 2.3 GHz Denver
GPU - Kepler DX1
RAM - 2GB
Memory - 16/32GB
Camera - 8MP, 3264 x 2448 pixels, autofocus, LED flash
Secondary Camera - 1.6MP
Sensors - Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass
Connectivity - Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot, Bluetooth v4.0
Battery - Non-removable 6700 mAh
Dimensions - 228.2 x 153.7 x 7.9 mm
Weight - 425g
Source: gsmarena.

ForumNinja said:
Hey all
Its good to see HTC back in the tablet game! This device features Google's latest version of Android (lollipop) nicknamed Android "L". Feel free to discuss the hardware or the overall design of the Nexus 9:good:
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Specifications:
Display - IPS LCD,1536 x 2048 pixels, 8.9 inches (~281 ppi pixel density)
Chipset - Nvidia Tegra K1
CPU - Quad-core 2.3 GHz Denver
GPU - Kepler DX1
RAM - 2GB
Memory - 16/32GB
Camera - 8MP, 3264 x 2448 pixels, autofocus, LED flash
Secondary Camera - 1.6MP
Sensors - Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass
Connectivity - Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot, Bluetooth v4.0
Battery - Non-removable 6700 mAh
Dimensions - 228.2 x 153.7 x 7.9 mm
Weight - 425g
Source: gsmarena.
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Its a big!! And a giant upgrade. coming from the nexus 7 2012

Is Nexus 9 also have turbo charging like the Nexus 6?

jjardinero.01 said:
Is Nexus 9 also have turbo charging like the Nexus 6?
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doesn't matter we will make it happen
Kernel hacking

I don't think so I think the fast charging is a feature built in to the Qualcomm chips.
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For me is 3 things that are causing noise:
1) The pixel density is what's causing the first impact (not in a good way) in me. I'm no expert when it comes in judging screen but when other devices with far smaller screens as well as devices that have been in the market for a long time come up with much higher densities, it does make you wonder about this brand new flagship device that only offers 281 ppi. (And please, spare me the explanation about how irrelevant pixel density is in relation to the smaller screen sizes, I understand that).
2) Also, the 2GB RAM (as opposed to 3).
3) The portability aspect of such a big device: the physical size and weight seem to be a concern, specially when you're upgrading from the fantastically compact Nexus 7 (2013).
edited: I forgot about a 4th thing that has me deeply disappointed:
4) Lack of wireless Qi-charging capability.
But who are we kidding, being the nerds we are, we know most of us here will be getting one regardless.

Its not quad core denver chip but dual core denver chip

I agree on #1 and #3.. This is a step backwards from the DPI on the N7 and at 425g its pretty much the same as a 9.7 inch Ipad air (437g)
rdelfin said:
For me is 3 things that are causing noise:
1) The pixel density is what's causing the first impact (not in a good way) in me. I'm no expert when it comes in judging screen but when other devices with far smaller screens as well as devices that have been in the market for a long time come up with much higher densities, it does make you wonder about this brand new flagship device that only offers 281 ppi. (And please, spare me the explanation about how irrelevant pixel density is in relation to the smaller screen sizes, I understand that).
2) Also, the 2GB RAM (as opposed to 3).
3) The portability aspect of such a big device: the physical size and weight seem to be a concern, specially when you're upgrading from the fantastically compact Nexus 7 (2013).
edited: I forgot about a 4th thing that has me deeply disappointed:
4) Lack of wireless Qi-charging capability.
But who are we kidding, being the nerds we are, we know most of us here will be getting one regardless.
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I don't see any mention of a GPS in the Nexus 9... Can anyone confirm GPS (or maybe GLONASS?) capability?

Snowflake6 said:
I don't see any mention of a GPS in the Nexus 9... Can anyone confirm GPS (or maybe GLONASS?) capability?
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its there
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexus_9

I like the 4/3 form factor. Only time I have used this form factor on a tablet was on an Ipad. I personally don't like Ipad but one thing I loved is that form factor. Easier to hold and work with.
Android L looks good. I can't wait to see how fast the K1 will be using ART.
Funny to see that the N9 camera will protrude from the tablet a little bit, like on the new Iphone 6 (Iphone users complained about this). I personally don't care but I'm sure some future N9 users will complain about it.
Camera is not the best but hey, who brings a tablet to take pictures? Grab your DSLR or your phone Pple looks so stupid when taking picture using a tablet..lol. This also makes me think about something else. Why not putting a better resolution camera on the front? Personally, when I'm using my tablet camera, It's for Skype. I never took a picture using the main camera, Imo, the 8 Mp camera should be front facing so we can have descent video resolution when skyping.
2 Gb of ram is enough for me, especially when using "pure" android (no Sense or TouchWizz UI). 3Gb of ram would have raised the price too much and most users don't need 3gb.
Polycarbonate cover:
HTC were so excited when they announced that the One X was getting a uni-body poly-carbonate shell back in 2012. This polycarb. design caused so much trouble with that phone, the polycarb. body was somewhat flexible and caused bad electrical contact between main board and antennas glued inside the polycarb cover. (i.e the infamous Wifi issue of the One X) I personally don't thrust polycarb anymore, I prefer aluminium body like the M7/M8. Hopefully, they have designed the N9 so that problem will not occur again...
Tegra K1 CPU:
I also had bad experience with Tegra CPU on my One X. They announced the Tegra 3 (in 2012) to be a powerful quadcore CPU with very good power consumption using a battery-saver "companion" core to handle low-power tasks when 4 cores are not required (standby mode, playing music etc etc). Performance wasn't there (compared to the qualcomm equivalent of that year) and power consumption was really bad. I was very disappointed by Tegra CPU. Also used a Tegra 2 on my gf's Asus TF101. I prefer qualcomm cpu, much faster and power friendly. It also looks like there is more development for qualcomm CPU than Tegra CPU. But K1 is ready and Qualcomm's 810 isn't, so yes the K1 will be to most powerful chip on the mobile market, but im not optimistic about power consumption where the 810 will probably be much better when released.
Overall I think it will be a very good tablet keeping in mind that this tablet is designed for the average consumer and not for enthusiast.
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front facing speakers (boomsound) will be awesome!

a bit bummed out on only 2gb ram, no qi charging, lowish dpi but am ordering it anyways...
do really like turbo charging, ac wifi, bt apt-x, htc design and big battery...

I hate that they went big with both the 6&9. The 7" fit perfectly for my needs. Oh well...

4x3, front facing speakers, and stock Android? WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN ALL MY LIFE!?!?
This tablet will be a huge hit, despite the less-than-record-setting specs. I do wish it were cheaper, but I think people who do buy it will love it.
And it's time for 16x9 tablets to die. I hope this is the start!

jjardinero.01 said:
Is Nexus 9 also have turbo charging like the Nexus 6?
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Yeah it comes with a turbo charger which is weird considering the turbo charger is made by Motorola. (I forget where I read this so may not be reliable but I know I read it lol)
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4:3 is what I've been looking for in a tablet as one of my main uses for it as a medical professional is reading PDFs on the go. 16:9 or 16:10 is not the aspect ratio for reading letter-size PDFs, but it could be managed on the larger >10" tablets. Up to this point, the iPad was the best device for consuming PDFs, but now I have another choice on the market to take a look at.

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4:3 is what I've been looking for in a tablet as one of my main uses for it as a medical professional is reading PDFs on the go. 16:9 or 16:10 is not the aspect ratio for reading letter-size PDFs, but it could be managed on the larger >10" tablets. Up to this point, the iPad was the best device for consuming PDFs, but now I have another choice on the market to take a look at.
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I too have been waiting for a 4/3 android option without resorting to cheapo Chinese tablets without after sale service. And to those who will explain you that 16/9 is better for movies, that is a very limited point of view in my opinion : how do iPad users do ? I mostly watch movies on my tablet in my bed, with other lights off or very dimmed, so I just can't see the bezel anyway and will gladly have a much better format for books and Internet consumption !

It's not THAT different from most other phones, but I like the size.

I hope it's dual core and not quad core so it's finally worth investing for real.

What I like:
- Tegra K1 - 'nuff said
- Android apps will automatically compile to 64bit when installed on it. The beauty of Dalvik/ART :')
- 4:3 screen - FINALLY an android tablet for working people. Working with PDFs and documents will be an absolute joy with this.
- Android updates
Cons:
- Limited storage -- what's the point of having all that power if you don't have enough storage for content to make use of it. HD games and videos use a LOT of space.
Even Apple realised that and dropped $100 off 64 and 128GB models
- eMMC 4.51 -- which peaks at 200MB/s is significantly slower than other flagships. My iPhone 5S gets over 360MB/s read speeds in benchmarks.. SSD-speeds really.
- 2GB RAM, unlikely to be a problem in the near future.
- Too expensive for what it has to offer.
All in all, I think its the best android tablet on the market now. Sad to see it out powered by the iPad Air 2 only a day after release though the difference is only minimal.
Can't wait to get mine

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Old Rumor "Samsung Galaxy S2 I9200" - Might be True !!!

i am sure you all remember after the release of Samsung Galaxy S, a Russian site disclosed information about proposed Samsung Galaxy S2 with following specs.
4.3” 1280x720px Super AMOLED 2 display
2GHz CPU,
1GB RAM/4GB ROM
32GB of built-in flash memory, +32GB microSD card slot
8 megapixel camera with FullHD video recording
A-GPS, Bluetooth 3.0, Wi-Fi b/g/n
3.5 mm headset jack
Accelerometer, gyroscope, proximity and ambient light sensors
OS GingerBread
Many thought that its fake or fan-boy gone crazy...well they must think again cuz samsung has announced some amazing news last day.
A "DUAL CORE A9 1ghz Processor"
The system-on-a-chip (SoC) is codenamed Orion, it is based on the dual-core Cortex-A9 architecture from ARM, and will have the cores running at 1GHz. Samsung claims it will be 5 times faster in graphics rendering than its current Hummingbird.
Full HD video recording and decoding at 30fps, support for cameras up to 18MP, and support for up to three displays simultaneously - two on the device itself, and one external HDTV, for example, via HDMI-out. The Cortex-A9 chipsets also should deliver 30% reduction in power consumption.
have a look at following sites:
http://www.intomobile.com/2010/09/0...-a9-1080p-encodedecode-triple-screen-support/
http://www.tcmagazine.com/tcm/news/...g-tegra-2-orion-dual-core-1ghz-cortex-a9-chip
http://newsblaze.com/story/2010090622341800001.bw/topstory.html
http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-1g...lash-and-5mp14-6mp-cmos-chips-outed-07100868/
specs are just the max of what we could imagine. That's why I am skeptical. Talking about 3.0 when 2.2 is not final on the I9000 - that's a rather bad sign.
they will for sure give up on some specs when releasing the phone. and it will also depend on competitors product.
gingerbread is reality. android has already started spreading rumors abt Honeycomb (next version after gingerbread).
Whether the source is legit or not... I wouldn't be surprised if most of those specs are true.
We haven't heard of a "Super AMOLED 2" yet, but it would be a damn fine screen if it say, fixes the color banding on current pentile amoled (maybe use the RGBW I've heard about, that'd be awesome xD) and other issues (improve battery?)
Personally I think the current SGS size is perfect, so a 4.3" screen.. well they better have absolutely no wasted space around the screen lol.
It would also have to have hdmi out, either micro-hdmi or more likely the same connector as the galaxy tab.. and on that note, these specs sound very similar to the tab on steroids (tab already has confirmed gingerbread update + 1280x720 screen iirc).
If they release it (assuming it exists) in <6 months though, I think most of us would be a little mad though.. lol.
EDIT: OMG. maybe "Super AMOLED 2" could one of those foldable AMOLED screens... that would be pretty sweet haha!
dark_sith said:
specs are just the max of what we could imagine. That's why I am skeptical. Talking about 3.0 when 2.2 is not final on the I9000 - that's a rather bad sign.
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If they can achieve the screen then nothing else listed is really that mindblowing, particularly if OPs sources are accurate (OP, I didn't read them, too busy). @Froyo/gingerbread, Froyo is supposedly ready in a fashion that they can use it (and have put lots of work into getting apps to scale) for the tab. It's fairly apparent that the Galaxy Tab has been the focus of their software department for the better part of a month, but we will reap part of those rewards even if it has partially delayed our Froyo...it's definitely not too early to talk about Gingerbread, particularly if Samsung can work with Google (Google might be very interested if they like the Galaxy tab) to become the next Google-Experience Device.
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Personally I think the current SGS size is perfect, so a 4.3" screen.. well they better have absolutely no wasted space around the screen lol.
If they release it (assuming it exists) in <6 months though, I think most of us would be a little mad though.. lol.
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I agree on 4.0" being the sweet spot, then again, before big devices become in vogue I wanted the 5.0" Streak until SGS was announced.
In the other thread about this topic a user said, 4.3" makes the rumors less likely because why would Samsung switch sizes (I know that's not what you said but I'll paraphrase my reply to him anyways). ...'I completely disagree. First, perhaps it was too hard for them to fabricate 4.3" in a device that they expect to sell like the SGS. 2nd, what percentage of Samsung's customers will upgrade from a 4.0" to a 4.3" 6 months later, they are trying to hit a different niche that perhaps opted for the Evo or would prefer a 4.3" if they were out of contract.'
As far as the progression of smartphones go, the faster the better, make my device obsolete tomorrow and that means the newest ones are nearly literally mini-laptops...I wouldn't need one for the duration of my contract. I'd only be jealous of the screen, and that is a jealousy I can live with (and probably pay a premium to switch devices for). Everything else, I'd be able to live without, and I bought this device thinking "This is the one I won't worry about for a year." Shorten that to 6 months and touche Samsung, you've done your job and done it well. The way the smartphone market is these days if they don't do it someone else will (well, they prob cant do screens like these for at least 12 months).
wonder if sammy will have fixed the GPS on the current model by the time that S2 releases
Holly Crap!
What will the I10000 have?
5" 1080p Super Super AMOLED
5 Ghz quad-core CPU
4 GB Ram/32 GB ROM
128GB of flash
12 megapixel camera with 1080 recording
???????????????????????
If they can make a dock for it, there is no reason to have a PC or a laptop anymore!
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4.3” 1280x720px Super AMOLED 2 display
2GHz CPU,
1GB RAM/4GB ROM
32GB of built-in flash memory, +32GB microSD card slot
8 megapixel camera with FullHD video recording
A-GPS, Bluetooth 3.0, Wi-Fi b/g/n
3.5 mm headset jack
Accelerometer, gyroscope, proximity and ambient light sensors
OS GingerBread
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Even If it's true, you won't see it until q4 of 2011.
any update on this?
a samsung insider should be asked, anyone know such a person?
Looks pretty awesome to me. I absolutely agree, 4" screen is perfect. 4"3 is a bit too wide, not as easy to hold in one hand.
But i mean, let's be real, all of this depends on the software they'll put in it. Samsung is getting much better at supporting their smartphones but still...
If this thing gets a good OS / support then it will kick ass (look at the X10 still on 1.6...)
AND, who knows what competition will have out by then. Maybe a new iphone 6 with even less buttons
I9200 or I9020 ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=816893
necro a dead thread about a false rumor
good job
4.3” 1280x720px Super AMOLED 2 display
2GHz CPU,
1GB RAM/4GB ROM
32GB of built-in flash memory, +32GB microSD card slot
8 megapixel camera with FullHD video recording
A-GPS, Bluetooth 3.0, Wi-Fi b/g/n
3.5 mm headset jack
Accelerometer, gyroscope, proximity and ambient light sensors
OS GingerBread
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And battery on nucelar-polymer technology 10.000 mAh ,standby 2600 hours, talk time 1300 min....Will be ideal gadget
Dream, only dream...

Why Nexus S is Google's new baby.

Hardware. Pure and simple. The Nexus One hardware was great at the time, but there are a few things that the Nexus One's hardware that needed to be upgraded, or they wanted to support in their new dev phone:
1) Proper Multi-touch screen.
Nexus One's screen isn't multi touch, and it's hardly even dual touch. It's a single touch screen that offered some limited dual touch support that only really works for pinch to zoom. The rotate with two fingers gesture that's in the new version of maps isn't supported on the Nexus One.​
2) Front facing camera.
iPhone has one, and made it somewhat popular. Google needed it in their dev phone to keep up.​
3) PowerVR SGX540 GPU.
The PowerVR SGX540 chip is *the* most powerful mobile chip on the market. It's significantly better than the adreno 200 found in n1, and has roughly double the power of PowerVR SGX535 that's in the iPhone 4 and iPad. Galaxy S maxes out most of the commonly used benchmarks, and comes close to maxing nenamark1 too.​
4) Wolfson Sound Chip is brilliant
The Galaxy S phones have *the* best sound chip on the market, and Nexus S has the same chip
check out the perfect audio quality part in GSMArena's review of Galaxy S​
Oh, and there's also the NFC chip, Super AMOLED screen, three-axis Gyroscope, and larger battery.
Rawat said:
Hardware. Pure and simple. The Nexus One hardware was great at the time, but there are a few things that the Nexus One's hardware that needed to be upgraded, and they wanted to support in their new dev phone:
1) Proper Multi-touch screen.
Nexus One's screen isn't multi touch, and it's hardly even dual touch. It's a single touch screen that offered some limited dual touch support that only really works for pinch to zoom. The rotate with two fingers gesture that's in the new version of maps isn't supported on the Nexus One.​
2) Front facing camera.
iPhone has one, and made it somewhat popular. Google needed it in their dev phone to keep up.​
3) PowerVR SGX540 GPU.
The PowerVR SGX540 chip is *the* most powerful mobile chip on the market. It's significantly better than the adreno 205 found in n1, and has roughly double the power of PowerVR SGX535 that's in the iPhone 4 and iPad. Galaxy S maxes out most of the commonly used benchmarks, and comes close to maxing nenamark1 too.​
4) Wolfson Sound Chip is brilliant
The Galaxy S phones have *the* best sound chip on the market, and Nexus S has it too
check out the perfect audio quality part in GSMArena's review of Galaxy S​
Oh, and there's also the NFC chip, Super AMOLED screen, three-axis Gyroscope, and larger battery.
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This is a great analysis Rawat
I'll be really interested to see how quick my Nexus-1 gets gingerbread. If it takes weeks after the 16th or after the new year then I would have to agree
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This is a great analysis Rawat
I'll be really interested to see how quick my Nexus-1 gets gingerbread. If it takes weeks after the 16th or after the new year then I would have to agree
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I think the trend will be that the newer versions of android will be developed on Nexus S, and as such they'll be the first to receive it, and the N1 will get the updates a around a month or so later, as long as the device meets the minimum spec.
Google said they do their OS development on one device. Think it was andy rubin when he was showing parts of the mototab, and it was maybe in one of the Nexus S / gingerbread phone videos.
The nexus one actually has an adreno 200 the 205's are much more improved as seen in the g2,desire hd,and my touch 4g. Also the new snapdragons are believed to be on par if not better than hummingbird cpu's
Some comparison androidevolutions . com /2010/10/13/gpu-showdown-adreno-205-msm7230-in-htc-g2-vs-powervr-sgx540-hummingbird-in-samsung-galaxy-s/
Indeed you're correct. 1st gen chips had adreno 200, 2nd gen had 205s.
I don't think the gpu and CPU are the reason more so the screen along with samsungs ability to prodce said screens.
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The nexus one actually has an adreno 200 the 205's are much more improved as seen in the g2,desire hd,and my touch 4g. Also the new snapdragons are believed to be on par if not better than hummingbird cpu's
Some comparison androidevolutions . com /2010/10/13/gpu-showdown-adreno-205-msm7230-in-htc-g2-vs-powervr-sgx540-hummingbird-in-samsung-galaxy-s/
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The CPU's may be on parr. However. CPU isn't what needs improved on the Snapdragons.
This is correct. SGX540 does perform about 2x as fast as SGX530 (found in Droid X, Droid 2, iPhone 3GS and a variation of it in iPhone 4). Unfortunately, Samsung's Galaxy S has been using the same GPU for many months now. So TI is playing a catch up on Samsung's SoC. To be fair, other manufacturers aren't exactly doing any better. Qualcomm's second generation GPU - Adreno 205 also performs significantly worse than SGX540 and (soon to be released) Tegra 2's GPU is also expected to be outperformed by SGX540. With Samsung claiming Orion improving GPU performance by another 3-4x over SGX540 must sound scary to other manufacturers!
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SGX540 = Hummingbird's GPU.
GPU means a ton when it comes to what you're actually going to see in action on the screen.
In the link I posted that doesn't seem so, the gpu actually faired well against the humming bird in the epic
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I don't think the gpu and CPU are the reason more so the screen along with samsungs ability to prodce said screens.
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Google said they added more features for better game programming. That's one of the major improvements in 2.3, so why would they pick screen over gpu? Galaxy S phones are considered one of the best device for Android gaming so it makes a lot of sense to have Samsung make a phone. The screen is an icing on the cake. I bet Samsung is going to use samoled screens a lot more on big phones they manufacture.
so true cant wait!
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In the link I posted that doesn't seem so, the gpu actually faired well against the humming bird in the epic
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On one benchmark. I wouldn't read into those results too much
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4059/nexus-s-and-android-23-review-gingerbread-for-the-holidays
anadtech review
Rawat said:
Hardware. Pure and simple. The Nexus One hardware was great at the time, but there are a few things that the Nexus One's hardware that needed to be upgraded, or they wanted to support in their new dev phone:
1) Proper Multi-touch screen.
Nexus One's screen isn't multi touch, and it's hardly even dual touch. It's a single touch screen that offered some limited dual touch support that only really works for pinch to zoom. The rotate with two fingers gesture that's in the new version of maps isn't supported on the Nexus One.​
2) Front facing camera.
iPhone has one, and made it somewhat popular. Google needed it in their dev phone to keep up.​
3) PowerVR SGX540 GPU.
The PowerVR SGX540 chip is *the* most powerful mobile chip on the market. It's significantly better than the adreno 200 found in n1, and has roughly double the power of PowerVR SGX535 that's in the iPhone 4 and iPad. Galaxy S maxes out most of the commonly used benchmarks, and comes close to maxing nenamark1 too.​
4) Wolfson Sound Chip is brilliant
The Galaxy S phones have *the* best sound chip on the market, and Nexus S has the same chip
check out the perfect audio quality part in GSMArena's review of Galaxy S​
Oh, and there's also the NFC chip, Super AMOLED screen, three-axis Gyroscope, and larger battery.
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Goddammint!!! I can't wait til Thursday!!!
zachthemaster said:
Goddammint!!! I can't wait til Thursday!!!
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Rofl I can't wait till there are tons of threads started such as "Goddammit I LOVE this phone!!!"
ap3604 said:
Rofl I can't wait till there are tons of threads started such as "Goddammit I LOVE this phone!!!"
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Haha goddammit i can't wait to post in those threads.. I'm so excited... New phone, new network... PUMPED
hmm.. sounds awsome..
but hey, someone knows if we can open the battery cover to replace the battery? im too used to carry two batteries.. i need it cause long weekends with heavy usage of the phone.. >.<
i didnt find anything about this :3
D4rkSoRRoW said:
hmm.. sounds awsome..
but hey, someone knows if we can open the battery cover to replace the battery? im too used to carry two batteries.. i need it cause long weekends with heavy usage of the phone.. >.<
i didnt find anything about this :3
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yah... duh haha
Sure you can
Here's a view of the phone with the cover off:
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Samsung Galaxy SIII - Analysis

Ok, lets get a few things into perspective. I've read a lot of negative posts about this phone so lets go into a more technical analysis on the matter.
CPU : Exynos 4 Quad Core (1.4GHz)
For some reason people seem to think 1.4GHz vs the Tegra 3's 1.5GHz makes the Tegra a faster processor. Not true. Yes, the Tegra has a higher clock speed but performance wise the Exynos 4 at 1.4GHz can out perform it (due to its design). Also, people seem to think the A15 architecture would make a major difference. The A15 architecture was designed to increase power efficiency which is something the Exynos 4 has done by decreasing its dye from 45nm to 32nm (from SII to SIII) and with its nice 2100mAh battery I'm sure you will have all the battery power you need. (since it can be removed I'm sure you will be able to upgrade the battery in the future, something you cannot do with the HTC One X)
Design
What's wrong with plastic? Although you may think plastic is "cheap" it may very well help increase your phones durability since plastic is flexible. Drop a plastic phone on the floor and you will be left with minor scratches, drop a metal and glass phone on the floor and you will be left with a malformed frame, shattered glass and internal damage from the shock not being absorbed. I would also like to know what's wrong with curves? A curved design will fit snug in your hand. As for the colour schemes, I guess they can be left for discussion. Although the pebble blue looks more black than anything.
I quite like its sleek design.
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P.S : Watch this before you judge.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzDwxpFgoDg
Screen
HD Super AMOLED is only possible on pentile displays due to the major resolution change. If the SIII was to have a Super AMOLED+ display it would not be able to brag about its 720p display since at HD resolutions a Plus display is not possible. Super AMOLED+ offers improved detail, but at 720p that detail gain would be practically none because of the extreme pixel density which basically means the HD Super AMOLED displays are far superior than the Super AMOLED Plus Displays.
What is the point in pentile displays?
PenTile RGBG layout uses green pixels interleaved with alternating red and blue pixels. The human eye is most sensitive to green, especially for high resolution luminance information. Thus the RG-BG scheme creates a color display with one third fewer subpixels than a traditional RGB-RGB scheme but with the same measured luminance display resolution (which means your eyes will notice no difference from a AMOLED+ RGB display to a AMOLED RGBG display at the same resolution).
Camera
Why are people complaining about it being 8MP instead of 12MP, the 8MP pictures it takes can be as good if not better than a 12MP image taken from another device. Why? Mega-pixel is the resolution of the image. A crisp 8MP image would look far better than a grainy 12MP image, the actual quality of the image depends on the CCD and I'm pretty sure that would of been upgraded since the SII.
RAM
Oh please... when will you ever use 1GB of RAM...
So lets compare this to the HTC One X (I honestly have nothing against this phone, but I'm just going to be comparing specifications)
CPU : 1.5GHz Tegra 3 vs 1.4GHz Exynos 4
They are both quad-cores so should both be able to run multi-threaded processes very well compared to dual-cores. The Tegra 3 does have its extra core for idling (when its not doing anything) to save battery life although I do feel this would be a bit pointless if the Exynos 4 can just under-clock itself to save battery when idling, this also gives it the ability to still use all four cores for multi-threading even when idling. As for over-clock ability I feel the 40nm Tegra wont clock as well as the 32nm Exynos, a smaller dye will mean less heat which will result it more stable clock speeds. But I guess we will have to wait and see. From my point of view the Exynos wins this.
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[U][B]Galaxy SIII - AnTuTu Benchmark Score[/B][/U]
[B]Score : 11901[/B]
RAM : 3431
CPU Integer : 3999
CPU Float : 3053
2D Graphics : 297
3D Graphics : 1245
Database IO : 550
SD Write : 13.0 MB/s
SD Read : 42.8 MB/s
CPU Frequency : 1400MHz
[B][U]HTC One X - AnTuTu Benchmark Score[/U][/B]
[B]Score : 10539[/B]
RAM : 2169
CPU Integer : 3439
CPU Float : 2543
2D Graphics : 289
3D Graphics : 1209
Database IO : 545
SD Write : 23.8 MB/s
SD Read : 34.3 MB/s
CPU Frequency : 1500MHz
Screen : HD LCD vs HD Super AMOLED
Although they are both at the same resolution the AMOLED screen should be able to out perform the HD LCD screen with its contrast of blacks and whites. The HD LCD screen also needs a back-light to be viewed whereas the AMOLED screen emits its own light which will give it a more natural look and better viewing angles compared to the HD LCD.
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[U][B]HD LCD[/B][/U]
[U]Pros[/U]
- HD Resolution with the RGB stripe array
- Overall less power consumption
[U]Cons[/U]
- Uses a back-light
- Blacks are not true black
[U][B]HD Super AMOLED[/B][/U]
[U]Pros[/U]
- HD Resolution
- Vibrant colours
- Blacks are true blacks
- No back-light
[U]Cons[/U]
- Pentile array (not as sharp as RGB stripe array)
- Overall more power consumption
Although the pentile array means images are not as sharp as the RGB stripe array; at HD resolutions its seriously not noticeable and as for power consumption the HD Super AMOLED screen actually uses dramatically less power when it comes to displaying blacks.
That's about it. So what you have there is a durable phone with the best screen, camera and processor currently available.
Very interesting analysis
Especially for all those guys who mock the phone whenever they can.
I kinda disagree with the RAM argument, considering smartphone nowadays can be compared to a computer, there's no such thing as too much RAM but for other things, I have no complain.
There's just too much haters, either they secretly wants this but have bought other phone so they need to reassure themselves, really arguing just because they can, or plain trolling.
furt890 said:
I kinda disagree with the RAM argument, considering smartphone nowadays can be compared to a computer, there's no such thing as too much RAM but for other things, I have no complain.
There's just too much haters, either they secretly wants this but have bought other phone so they need to reassure themselves, really arguing just because they can, or plain trolling.
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1GB RAM is more than enough. Watch this
HTC One X with its 1GB RAM (same as the Samsung Galaxy SIII)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeMuzSQUdTg
He loads a whole range of memory hungry games without closing their tasks (meaning they will be still loaded in the RAM).
Can the title be changed to SIII please
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1GB RAM is more than enough. Watch this
HTC One X with its 1GB RAM (same as the Samsung Galaxy SIII)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeMuzSQUdTg
He loads a whole range of memory hungry games without closing their tasks (meaning they will be still loaded in the RAM).
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The video shows another aspect Samsung designed good in my opinion. When you look at the 1x screen you can see these 3 little dots there for a menu key.
It not just decreases the screen slightly, I can also see myself accidently clicking on while I'm playing.
In short: I love the hardware menu key!
The new fad at the moment is to hate. If the screen size was same as the note, i would pick it up day 1.
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Ok, lets get a few things into perspective. I've read a lot of negative posts about this phone so lets go into a more technical analysis on the matter.
CPU : Exynos 4 Quad Core (1.4GHz)
For some reason people seem to think 1.4GHz vs the Tegra 3's 1.5GHz makes the Tegra a faster processor. Not true. Yes, the Tegra has a higher clock speed but performance wise the Exynos 4 at 1.4GHz can out perform it (due to its design). Also, people seem to think the A15 architecture would make a major difference. The A15 architecture was designed to increase power efficiency which is something the Exynos 4 has done by decreasing its dye from 45nm to 32nm (from SII to SIII) and with its nice 2100mAh battery I'm sure you will have all the battery power you need. (since it can be removed I'm sure you will be able to upgrade the battery in the future, something you cannot do with the HTC One X)
Design
What's wrong with plastic? Although you may think plastic is "cheap" it may very well help increase your phones durability since plastic is flexible. Drop a plastic phone on the floor and you will be left with minor scratches, drop a metal and glass phone on the floor and you will be left with a malformed frame, shattered glass and internal damage from the shock not being absorbed. I would also like to know what's wrong with curves? A curved design will fit snug in your hand. As for the colour schemes, I guess they can be left for discussion. Although the pebble blue looks more black than anything.
I quite like its sleek design.
Screen
HD Super AMOLED is only possible on pentile displays due to the major resolution change. If the SIII was to have a AMOLED+ display it would not be able to brag about its 720p display since at HD resolutions a Plus display is not possible. AMOLED+ offers improved detail, but at 720p that detail gain would be minimal which basically means the HD Super AMOLED displays are far superior than the AMOLED Plus Displays.
Camera
Why are people complaining about it being 8MP instead of 12MP, the 8MP pictures it takes can be as good if not better than a 12MP image taken from another device. Why? Mega-pixel is the resolution of the image. A crisp 8MP image would look far better than a grainy 12MP image, the actual quality of the image depends on the CCD and I'm pretty sure that would of been upgraded since the SII.
RAM
Oh please... when will you ever use 1GB of RAM...
So lets compare this to the HTC One X (I honestly have nothing against this phone, but I'm just going to be comparing specifications)
CPU : 1.5GHz Tegra 3 vs 1.4GHz Exynos 4
They are both quad-cores so should both be able to run multi-threaded processes very well compared to dual-cores. The Tegra 3 does have its extra core for idling (when its not doing anything) to save battery life although I do feel this would be a bit pointless if the Exynos 4 can just under-clock itself to save battery when idling, this also gives it the ability to still use all four cores for multi-threading even when idling. As for over-clock ability I feel the 40nm Tegra wont clock as well as the 32nm Exynos, a smaller dye will mean less heat which will result it more stable clock speeds. But I guess we will have to wait and see. From my point of view the Exynos wins this.
Screen : HD LCD vs HD Super AMOLED
Although they are both at the same resolution the AMOLED screen should be able to out perform the HD LCD screen with its contrast of blacks and whites. The HD LCD screen also needs a back-light to be viewed whereas the AMOLED screen emits its own light which will give it a more natural look and better viewing angles compared to the HD LCD.
That's about it. So what you have there is a durable phone with the best screen, camera and processor currently available.
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Yeah ur saying right !
Nice analysis !
Can't agree more !
All the trolls => garbage
Haters gonna hate!
touness69 said:
Nice analysis !
Can't agree more !
All the trolls => garbage
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True..
I also did a comparison between HTC One X and SGS3, similar to what OP did here.
You can find it here.
funb0b said:
Can the title be changed to SIII please
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Yes, just a small typo there lol
TheUnkn0wn said:
Ok, lets get a few things into perspective. I've read a lot of negative posts about this phone so lets go into a more technical analysis on the matter.
CPU : Exynos 4 Quad Core (1.4GHz)
For some reason people seem to think 1.4GHz vs the Tegra 3's 1.5GHz makes the Tegra a faster processor. Not true. Yes, the Tegra has a higher clock speed but performance wise the Exynos 4 at 1.4GHz can out perform it (due to its design). Also, people seem to think the A15 architecture would make a major difference. The A15 architecture was designed to increase power efficiency which is something the Exynos 4 has done by decreasing its dye from 45nm to 32nm (from SII to SIII) and with its nice 2100mAh battery I'm sure you will have all the battery power you need. (since it can be removed I'm sure you will be able to upgrade the battery in the future, something you cannot do with the HTC One X)
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First, I should start by saying that I like SGS3
In your analysis you're mixing physical design (32nm vs 40/45nm) and logical design (Cortex A9 vs A15). All cortex A15 SOC's will be made with 32nm or better (e g 28nm), so there won't be any advantage for 4412 in this regard.
The purpose with Cortex A15 is to increase performance (but of course with decent power efficiency). So Cortex A15 is much better than Cortex A9 if you like performance, there is nothing Samsung have made with Exynos 4412 that makes it come closer to A15 performance wise. But in certain benchmarks a quad-core A9 will beat a dual core A15 though.
But A15 will not reach the market before Q3, maybe later, so it was never even close to get into SGS3 anyway.
Agree.
touness69 said:
Nice analysis !
Can't agree more !
All the trolls => garbage
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+1
agree with everything the OP said.
Trolls and haters, no one is forcing you to stay here, you've had your rant now go away and leave those of us who are looking forward to this phone too it.
Very nice analysis. People knee jerked their reaction because their OWN expectations were not met. Samsung did not really hype this device. They did what they always do at launch.
The first thing people did not like was the "look" and in my opinion only, kind of silly for a mobile phone device. To fret about it as if it's something one actually "wears" and further indicates a reflection who one is as a person, in as if a self described "ugly phone" means ugly person to another who accidently sees the offending device But some people are fashion conscious all the way to their cell phones I suppose.
We then find out the form was intended purposely to avoid Apple lawsuits which at the end of the day cost Samsung money in time and personnel whose time can be better spent in the R &D labs coming up with non Apple FUNCTIONS. Like hot swappable SD Cards and batteries. Something Apple (and perhaps now even HTC) will NEVER have.
The phone is better then the SGS II...Better than the Note (except for screen size if that matters). The "form fighters" are the most likely to have purchased and the most disappointed and will eventually realize they have to get on board because many cannot stand they may not have the latest and greatest.
The HTC One X buyers will realized they jumped too soon and the SGS III is indeed the better phone....."Form" and a pentile screen is not enough of a rationalization to overcome their disappointment at not waiting just a little longer.
Their only hope for redemption is when the masses start the real beta test of the SGS III glaring issues start popping up ala the Captivate.
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CPU : 1.5GHz Tegra 3 vs 1.4GHz Exynos 4
They are both quad-cores so should both be able to run multi-threaded processes very well compared to dual-cores. The Tegra 3 does have its extra core for idling (when its not doing anything) to save battery life although I do feel this would be a bit pointless if the Exynos 4 can just under-clock itself to save battery when idling, this also gives it the ability to still use all four cores for multi-threading even when idling. As for over-clock ability I feel the 40nm Tegra wont clock as well as the 32nm Exynos, a smaller dye will mean less heat which will result it more stable clock speeds. But I guess we will have to wait and see. From my point of view the Exynos wins this.
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Thank you for a great constructive post without fanboism
I just have a couple of things to say about the Tegra 3 part.
The so called "companion core" is not just for "idling" It's for taking care of the "easy" not so demanding tasks as well such as when are reading you're mails, watching you're pictures, looking on amovie and such.
The great part about that is that the "companion core" is really power efficiant and does'nt need to stress any other core to do the easy tasks.
The other cores work individually dependent on the workload as well.
And why would an CPU do multithreading when idling? Is'nt idling just...idling?
What I want to say is that the Tegras 4 cores behaves just as the exynos 4 cores (if I've done my homework) with the exception that the Tegra has an helper core on top of this.
That being said the Tegra 3 also works @ 1.4ghz when in quad mode. The 1.5ghz part is for single core use as I understand it.
I think the exynos will be an awsome processor though. Im not saying anything else. Just updating som facts
Aja82 said:
And why would an CPU do multithreading when idling? Is'nt idling just...idling
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Even though the phone is in idle there are still threads running, since there are still threads running it can therefore distribute the threads amongst its four cores.
I do like the idea of the companion core to help reduce battery usage, but I know that Android can lower the clock rate of the processor dynamically to work load which would effectively present the same outcome (reduced battery usage).
I laughed at the screen analysis. LCD2 smokes Super Amoled HD. Bit of a biased analysis here... also you fail to recognize that the GSIII's design is horrid. The reason I am so pissed at Samsung is because I've been a GSII user ever since it came out, paid the premium price for it, and its been the best smartphone I've EVER owned. Samsung hyped up the design for the III so much, and they hyped up the whole event with their "sheep" teaser. I'll be a glad owner of a One X, when it comes to AT&T on Sunday.
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S3 is great hardware wise, but the pentile display REALLY IS THE ****. And no bias at all, this is coming from someone who has used a galaxy nexus previously, with the same screen technology and an even slightly higher pixel density if you want to be precise.
Pentile screens have a distinct grid and fuzziness no matter how pixel dense it is. And if you'd think at the nominal viewing distance (about 30 cm), you can't see the fuzziness you'd be really disillusioned. And AMOLEDs pentile or not have this problem, at low brightness levels solid colours, especially grey, causes you to see distinct vertical banding and also extreme fuzziness that makes the screen look like sandpaper. This is the exact reason I forced Samsung to give me a full refund such that I could buy my One X.
Btw a little correction, One X uses IPS LCD tech, one of the best panels in the industry. They call it Super LCD 2 because IPS is a patented technology. IPS loses out in contrast and colours are less saturated as compared for AMOLEDs for sure. But it makes it up with truly high pixel densities with the RGB matrix. And its impeccable, as Steve Jobs says that 300+ dpi with RGB matrix means impossible to see pixels with the naked eye even at 10 cm distance. And also to mention their excellent viewing angles just like AMOLEDs, and their more natural colour reproduction.
Not that I'm trolling, nitpicking or whatsoever. S3 is an awesome phone no doubt. Processor, RAM, camera are very legit arguements. However, just a bit of real experience for those who have never actually experienced a high pixel density pentile AMOLED display in real life and are about to buy this based on what people who compare spec sheets say about it. To be fair I would say its a slight imperfection in an almost flawless phone.
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King Shady said:
I laughed at the screen analysis. LCD2 smokes Super Amoled HD. Bit of a biased analysis here... also you fail to recognize that the GSIII's design is horrid. The reason I am so pissed at Samsung is because I've been a GSII user ever since it came out, paid the premium price for it, and its been the best smartphone I've EVER owned. Samsung hyped up the design for the III so much, and they hyped up the whole event with their "sheep" teaser. I'll be a glad owner of a One X, when it comes to AT&T on Sunday.
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[Specs] Sony Xperia Z3 Compact Specifications - Members Thoughts

Hey all
Here Sony have gone against the past "mini" devices, the compact is a fully featured little brother of the flagship Xperia Z3. Boasting the same chipset, albeit with reduced RAM. It also features the same PS4 remote play feature. Something I'm sure we would all like to see ported to other devices. Its a promising Smartphone for those who feel the shear size of the flagship devices are getting out of hand.
Lets take a look at the Sony Xperia Z3 Compact's specifications, feel free to comment
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Specifications:
Display - IPS LCD, 720 x 1280 pixels, 4.6 inches (~319 ppi pixel density)
Chipset - Qualcomm MSM8974AC Snapdragon 801
CPU - Quad-core 2.5 GHz Krait 400
GPU - Adreno 330
RAM - 2GB
Memory - 16GB, microSD, up to 128 GB
Camera - 20.7 MP, 5248 х 3936 pixels, autofocus, LED flash. Video: [email protected],[email protected], [email protected], HDR
Secondary Camera - 2.2 MP. Video: [email protected]
Sensors - Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass
Connectivity - Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot, Bluetooth v4.0, A2DP, LE, apt-X, NFC
Water/Dust Protection - IP68
Battery - 2600 mAh
Dimensions - 127.3 x 64.9 x 8.6 mm
Weight - 129 g
Source: gsmarena
Memory is 16gb, micro sd, up to 128gb.
http://developer.sonymobile.com/downloads/whitepapers/xperia-z3-compact-white-paper/
Sofly999 said:
Memory is 16gb, micro sd, up to 128gb.
Thanks for the link to the white paper. Originally I thought they might have removed/disabled ANT+ as it wasn't listed in the product website but is mentioned in the white paper. Looking to use it for cycling and hoping with battery life it can do up to 6 hours with GPS enabled.
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Regarding expandable storage, it isn't really limited to 128GB, it's just that nothing larger exists. Technically according to the microSDXC spec it is limited to 2TB expandable storage.
Has anyone had any confirmation on whether there'll be a glove or pen mode?
Rekoil said:
Regarding expandable storage, it isn't really limited to 128GB, it's just that nothing larger exists. Technically according to the microSDXC spec it is limited to 2TB expandable storage.
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I don't think they say 128gb max, because there isn't any bigger, but because Sony itself supports till that size. The system itself supports bigger of course.
720p with snapdragon 801. This thing will fly and battery life will be better than z1c
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Sofly999 said:
Memory is 16gb, micro sd, up to 128gb.
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Thanks for correcting this, it has been erroneously reported as 64GB in a lot of places
Cheers guys:good: Updated the OP.
Looking forward to the 20.7 mp camera. Currently have an HTC one m7, worst camera ever. Also like the compact size and decent battery capacity.
I wish they have 3gb ram and 32gb memory
jwchen17 said:
I wish they have 3gb ram and 32gb memory
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Ditto. Although would the reduced RAM offer better battery life? The 720p screen was a smart move and I completely understand that decision, but I'm wondering why they only went with 2 gb of RAM? People will say, Who needs 3 gb? But that's just a tired answer, why upgrade anything at all then? It's been shown that the extra RAM would improve performance, but I'm curious if it also affects battery.
boojay said:
Ditto. Although would the reduced RAM offer better battery life? The 720p screen was a smart move and I completely understand that decision, but I'm wondering why they only went with 2 gb of RAM? People will say, Who needs 3 gb? But that's just a tired answer, why upgrade anything at all then? It's been shown that the extra RAM would improve performance, but I'm curious if it also affects battery.
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Hmm yeah, I don't know. I guess it does matters 'a lot', in theorie 1gb extra ram would add 33% more power consumption.
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Dsteppa said:
Hmm yeah, I don't know. I guess it does matters 'a lot', in theorie 1gb extra ram would add 33% more power consumption.
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In that case the battery would be used just from the memory. Not from screen, network etc.
2Gb are enough, the z3 needs 3 because of the full hd display because there is no separate graphics ram.
have the 2GB RAM been confirmed?... gsmarena states in all previews that it will have 3GB as it's bigger counterpart... but the specs page say it's 2GB, so I was wondering (or hoping) if it was a "typo" of them when making the specs page .
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oh well... Sony site says 2GB. Link. It should be more than enough though...
Against fist rumors it seems that the bezel/frame is not aluminum.
Sony used some plastic for the sides.
After using my beloved One S for two years now i think i will miss the feel of the surface.
Hope the glass and the frame will not be prone to scratches.
But i'm really tempted to get this phone and hope some Devs will give us some fabulous roms.
This will be my next phone!!!!
i'm just waiting for clove.co.uk to get it in stock and hopefully bundle one of the smartbands/watches w/it again like the Z1 was.
I'm an AT&T USA customer and was previously on Tmobile USA and loved my Xperia Z1 and haven't upgraded phones since getting it last nov. The biggest feature that Sony has above everyone else? Waterproof phones.
Plus, a 'mini' phone that has the exact flagship specs = PURE WIN!!! and to top it off, PS4 remote play.. oh yea!
The Z3C could have been the ideal phone for me if only it had a few "minor" changes. First and foremost 32 GB of internal storage then 3 GB of ram and the matte back surface of the Z3C tablet.
Hope Sony will adress these "issues" while keeping the same footprint.
Invalid_GR said:
The Z3C could have been the ideal phone for me if only it had a few "minor" changes. First and foremost 32 GB of internal storage then 3 GB of ram and the matte back surface of the Z3C tablet.
Hope Sony will adress these "issues" while keeping the same footprint.
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There is no such thing as a 'perfect' phone.
They could have added these things easily, but didn't chose to do so because it would consume more power.
The matte back surface is purely based on taste
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There is no such thing as a 'perfect' phone.
They could have added these things easily, but didn't chose to do so because it would consume more power.
The matte back surface is purely based on taste
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I actually prefer the glass-sandwhich look. I'm coming from a Nexus4, which I've realised since the beginning was too big for my taste, and this z3compact seems the perfect phone for me.

Cube i10 Dual Boot hands-on: the most cost-efficient dual boot tablet

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As successful as Cube is in marketing their business-oriented Core-M tablets such as the i7, the i7-CM as well as the all new i7 Stylus, the leading brand in the Chinese tablet industry hasn’t forgot its roots, and released arguably the most cost-efficient tablet ever – the Cube i10 Dual Boot.
Powered by an Intel Atom Bay-trail Z3735F quad-core processor and 2GB RAM, the i10 Dual Boot may seem like just another entry-level Windows slate that can’t really do much more than entertainment use and lightweight desktop tasks. However, the 10.6-inch display here changes the whole perspective, as the increased screen real estate greatly improves the productivity of this slate. With a licensed copy of Windows 8.1 and free Office 365 included, the tablet is only priced at RMB699 ($113), easily one of the best bargains we have seen to date.
Cube i10 specs:
• OS: Android 4.4.4 & Windows 8.1 dual boot
• Display: 10.6-inch IPS, 10-point multi-touch, IGZO
• Screen Resolution: 1366 x 768 (16:9)
• CPU: Intel Atom Baytrail-T Z3735F Quad-core Processor
• CPU Frequency: 1.33GHz – 1.8GHZ
• GPU: Intel HD Graphic Gen7
• RAM / Storage: 2GB / 32GB
• Function: WiFi, Bluetooth 4.0, OTG
• WiFi: 802.11 b/g/n
• Camera: 2MP back camera, VGA front camera
• Battery: 6,600mAh
• Extend Port: TF Card Slot, SIM Card Slot, Full USB2.0 Port, Micro USB Port, 3.5mm Headphone Jack, 2.5mm DC Port
• Weight & Size: 580g / 281.2*176*9.85mm
Design and build
Measuring at 281.2*176*9.85mm and weighs 580g, the i10 Dual Boot Edition is certainly not fighting to be the thinnest or lightest tablet in the world. But for a dual boot tablet with a 10.6-inch display, it is quite compact. It is much thinner than the Acer ICONIA W700, which measures at 11.9mm thick, but it is a little porkier than the Cube i7 (9.1mm).
The front of the tablet is dominated by a 10.6-inch IPS display, with the healthy amount of bezel to help you hold the tablet easily, whether in portrait or landscape mode. A VGA front camera sits comfortably above the screen, while a touch-sensitive Windows Key is located below the display.
The two physical buttons are both hosted on the top side of the tablet, while all the ports and slots are located on the left side, including a full USB 2.0 port, a Micro USB port, a mini HDMI port, a 3.5mm headphone jack, a 2.5mm DC port, and a Micro SD card slot covered by a plastic lid.
Most budget tablets have plastic chassis as a result of the cost, but the i10 dual boot is one of the exceptions. It features a metallic rear made of aluminium alloy, usually something we only see on premium tablets. The reason why Cube does not choose cheaper material for such a low-end tablet is unknown, but we applaud such generosity and ambitions.
A 2MP rear-facing camera and two stereo speakers are also on the back of the slate, so as Cube’s brand logo and some basic information of the tablet.
On the bottom side of the tablet you could see the magnetic docking which can help the i10 Dual Boot establish a solid connection to the keyboard cover, but we haven’t received one along with our review unit.
Overall the manufacturing quality of the i10 Dual Boot is pretty good and superior to that of the similarly-priced rival products. Tablets like the Surface 3 or the Cube i7 still belong to a completely different class and give the impression of being substantially more valuable.
Display and sound
The thing that sets the i10 Dual Boot apart from the other entry-level dual OS tablets is its screen size. Although Cube officially stated that the i10 Dual Boot has the same display used on the first Generation of Microsoft Surface RT, yet it is still difficult to assume how big the screen really is if you haven’t owned one. To help you better understand the size of the screen, here are some comparisons we have made for you.
If you put the i10 Dual Boot and the 8-inch iWork 8 3G together, you could easily see that the i10 Dual Boot has a much larger display, almost twice as large as the 8-inch display on the iWork 8 3G.
And if we compared the i10 Dual Boot’s 10.6-inch screen to the Acer W700’s 11.6-inch display, you could see it is smaller, but the difference is less significant.
As for the quality of the display on the i10 Dual Boot, the IPS panel has a resolution of 1366*768, which translates into a pixel density of 148PPI, clearly not fascinating by today’s standards. But given the amount of horsepower the Intel Graphics HD GPU could generate, it is a decent choice as it won’t drag down the performance.
The 10.6-inch display here has all the perks of an IPS screen: wide viewing angles, true to life colors and contrast, as well as fair brightness.
We are able to notice individual pixels while we look at the display closely, but it’s not something that you will focus on after using the tablet for a while.
Like most of Cube’s tablets, the i10 Dual Boot’s speakers are clear-sounding, and produce relatively loud, full output that’s just good enough to make me forego my headphones while watching YouTube videos. With that said, I still very much needed my Monster headphone or Astrotec IEMs when I was listening to music.
System and apps
As the model name suggests, the i10 Dual Boot has both Windows 8.1 and Android 4.4.4 preinstalled. It is known to all that tablets with screen smaller than 9 inches get free licensed copy of Windows 8 and one year free subscription of Office 365 from Microsoft. But the Cube i10 Dual Boot has a 10.6-inch display, so Cube must pay for the license fee of Windows and Office, and fortunately, the RMB699 ($113) retail price has already covered all of that.
Like the i6, the i10 Dual Boot doesn’t have an OS selector in tis bootscreen, instead it automatically launches the operating system you shut your tablet down from the last time.
Switching between the two operating systems is conveniently accomplished by tapping a software icon on the screen. The switch isn’t instantaneous, the tablet need to perform a full reboot to enter the other operating system, but fortunately it normally only takes less than half a minute.
Storage
The 32GB eMMc in our review unit is split up into two partitions: Windows is on one (24GB), Android 4.4.4 is on another (8GB). There’s no direct, automatic sharing of photos, documents, or other app data between the two operating systems. The explanation by Cube makes sense – it is to prevent users from deleting important system files of one OS while they are running on the other OS. After the initial setup, the Windows 8.1 side has only 14GB storage available, which should be enough for a few programs, but a microSD card larger than 32GB is definitely a must if you also need to store media files. The Android 4.4.4 side has only 3GB available after booting into it for the first time, which should be enough for apps, but you still need the Micro SD card for other files, including the data package of those big applications and 3D games.
Performance
The Cube i10 Dual Boot comes with an Intel Atom Z3735F processor with Intel HD Graphics, 2GB of memory, and the aforementioned 32GB eMMc drive, the standard internal setup for budget Windows 8 and dual boot tablets. While the i10 Dual Boot isn’t really a powerhouse tablet and delivers equivalent performance with other Atom Bay-trail powered tablets such as the ASUS A100T, it is still measurably faster than those running older-generation Atom processors like the Lenovo ThinkPad Tablet 2.
This can be seen in the benchmark scores, where the i10 Dual Boot scored 1,392 points in PCMark 8 test, topping the ThinkPad Tablet2 (957). Similar results were seen on the Peacekeeper test, where the Cube i10 Dual Boot scored 968, which is significantly faster than the ThinkPad Tablet 2 (951).
In the Android Benchmark tests, the i10 Dual Boot scored as much as some of the most powerful Android tablets out there.
Benchmarks aside, in the real world use, the i1.0 Dual Boot performed like a Champion in Android, handling even the heaviest tasks and some of the most graphic-intense games with ease. In Windows, things are a little different, all apps installed from the Windows 8 app store ran smoothly, with no lag or stutters at all. But like all other Bay-trail powered Windows slates, the i10 Dual Boot did struggle a little bit with demanding Windows desktop applications such as image and video editing programs. Fortunately, the most important productivity tool – the Microsoft Office, which was perfectly compatible with touchscreen operations, ran smoothly on this slate.
While the performance could be expected as we are all very familiar with the Intel Bay-trail series processors, the real issue which we need to mention here is the heat. The rear side of the i10 Dual Boot could easily get warm after working for a moment, and it got really heated running heavy-weight Windows desktop applications.
To sum things up, the i10 Dual Boot won't completely replace those i5 powered ultrabook-class laptop like the Cube i7 does, but it isn't a slouch like older Atom tablets were.
Battery life
Cube claims that the 6,600mAh battery in the i10 Dual Boot can offer 5 hours of video playback on a full charge, but we did manage to get a little more than that in our standard cngadget battery test. Playing a 1080P video on loop with 30% screen brightness (sufficient for indoor use) and 50% volume from the rear-facing speakers, the i10 Dual Boot lasted 5 hours and 37 minutes until auto shutdown.
Cameras
The i10 Dual Boot has two cameras on board, one on the front and one on the rear. The front-facing VGA camera can be used for video chatting, but only under decent lighting. The rear-facing 2MP camera cannot really do much in either photo or video mode, and we probably will never use it again after finishing this review.
Summary
The Cube i10 Dual Boot has the chops to replace both a mobile tablet and a business docking laptop for entertainment and daily Office tasks. It has full Windows 8.1 compatibility going for it, when connected with a business friendly keyboard cover through the docks, the i10 Dual Boot can really offer a decent amount of productivity. Whenever you needed entertainment, you can easily switch to the Android side and enjoy tons of touchscreen friendly apps. But with a dual boot tablet pried at only $113, you also have to find peace with some of its weaknesses: the not so great screen resolution, the below-average battery life and the heat while dealing with intense tasks.
The good
Price.
Screen size.
Metal chassis.
Full USB port
HDMI
The bad
Screen resolution
Battery life
Heat
Hey thanks for the review. I ordered one myself after reading ur review. wanna know how long it takes to fully charge the tablet from 0?
gxthelord said:
Hey thanks for the review. I ordered one myself after reading ur review. wanna know how long it takes to fully charge the tablet from 0?
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Normally 4-5 hours
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jupiter2012 said:
Normally 4-5 hours
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Oh is the tablet still with you? I ordered my should be arriving soon. Did u got the keyboard by now?
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Oh is the tablet still with you? I ordered my should be arriving soon. Did u got the keyboard by now?
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it is still with me, but i havent got the keyboard yet.
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jupiter2012 said:
it is still with me, but i havent got the keyboard yet.
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Were u able to root it on the Android side?
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Were u able to root it on the Android side?
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it can be connected to a PC as a slave, so it can be rooted one way or another.
jupiter2012 said:
it can be connected to a PC as a slave, so it can be rooted one way or another.
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Great to know that xD. Btw bro do u get the dcin charger when u buy the tablet? Mine come with a 5V 2A charger for microusb. Not the one for its DC in.
Aside of that my cube I10 doesn't comes with an office 365. Audio is also on the quiet side. Even on max I could barely hear it if my windows are open. Compared to my 8 inch Pipo w2. I can let go all of those but what annoys me most is it comes with Windows 8.1 bing that I couldn't display English system locale and its stucked on Chinese. T.T hope u can guide me a little bro.
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Aside of that my cube I10 doesn't comes with an office 365. Audio is also on the quiet side. Even on max I could barely hear it if my windows are open. Compared to my 8 inch Pipo w2. I can let go all of those but what annoys me most is it comes with Windows 8.1 bing that I couldn't display English system locale and its stucked on Chinese. T.T hope u can guide me a little bro.
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cant you even download and install the english language pack?
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cant you even download and install the english language pack?
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yes I am unable to Install the language pack at all. I can type in English but when trying to set it to display it says This Version of windows can only display one language. I even tried removing the Chinese language. Still the same.
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yes I am unable to Install the language pack at all. I can type in English but when trying to set it to display it says This Version of windows can only display one language. I even tried removing the Chinese language. Still the same.
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my unit has been sent to repair because i dropped it, i will contact cube and ask them for a solution to your issue.
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Sure thanks a lot. I also have contacted cube. Waiting their reply.
for Chuwi vi10 corrected a bug with a dim font in the Android! When at us it is made?
Is this the same thing only with Windows 10?
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for Chuwi vi10 corrected a bug with a dim font in the Android! When at us it is made?
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Are there really people buying Chuwi tablets? Never trust their after sale service.
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Sure thanks a lot. I also have contacted cube. Waiting their reply.
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I flashed the REMIX rom for i10, now it is more useful.
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can u share the link to the rom? By the way are u able to keep the dual boot after flashing the remix?
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can u share the link to the rom? By the way are u able to keep the dual boot after flashing the remix?
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After lookin it so long here is the link for the Cube Remix Rom. Would have appreciated it is TS share it earlier.
Remix OS: http://www.51cube.com/ch/DownShow.asp?ID=365
Stock Windows and Android Dual boot Firmware: http://www.51cube.com/ch/DownShow.asp?ID=350
PS. I'm not sure why but when flashing the stock firmwares, I lost my licensing for WIndows.
Dear all
i accidently uninstall insyde application for switching os to android
what should i do to access the android side of my cube i10?
thx a lot

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