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Oh My (Resistive MultiTouch)

http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/19/stantums-mind-blowing-multitouch-interface-on-video/
in a nut shell, a software upgrade for resisitive touchscreens, making them far more accurate and faster then capacitive and supports multi touch. This would be fun, but who knows when it'll get released =(

That is damn impressive!

OMG!!! Great!

I want that!!!

WOW!
thats looks 10 times better than the iphone.
is it just software or the screen? or combined?

"Termed "TouchPark," the multitouch framework provides gesture recognition, cursor management and physics processing for phone builders to stick on top of the phone OS (Symbian, Windows Mobile and Android are currently supported)"
Even though it's software, I seriously doubt will ever see this on our HD =*(

Maybe not officially. I seriously hope someone here could get it to work.

The touchscreen has been build according to Stantum's specs, but they do acknowledge that their (software) technology (called PMatrix) can be used in Existing phones.
Which I doubt because they are using a resistive MATRIX touchscreen XY^n, and existing devices don't have matrix screens but only plain XY, never XY^n.
Wow I am impressed, btw: loved the part where he demoed the soft brush!
And the resolution is incredible.
Wondering how much cpu power is needed to calculate all this.

i was actually lambasted on engadget for suggesting it could be added to existing devices, it appears the article misstates that it is solely software based when there are hardware components as well.
Therefore its not something we're going to see on existing devices. Supposedly that question was asked & answered in the videos.

(unfortunately, I watched it at work without sound)

That was AMAZING!!!!!! Thank you for sharing. This technology must be in the next gen phones/pdas for HTC. WOW counting the days!!!!!

If you're going to dream.... Why not Dream phone Quad core AMD cpu nVida Tegra III with physX 8" flexible folding screen, OLED 1080p Pico projector V 20gb flash drive dual micoSDHC dual SIM, USB3 host, 1 GB DDR4, WiMax, 5G hehehe and ummmmm oh for sure a Carbon Nanofiber hybred battery so you recharge once a month hehe even with daily heavy use.
it's a dream why not

DreampHoNe
Psyberd said:
If you're going to dream.... Why not Dream phone Quad core AMD cpu nVida Tegra III with physX 8" flexible folding screen, OLED 1080p Pico projector V 20gb flash drive dual micoSDHC dual SIM, USB3 host, 1 GB DDR4, WiMax, 5G hehehe and ummmmm oh for sure a Carbon Nanofiber hybred battery so you recharge once a month hehe even with daily heavy use.
it's a dream why not
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Lol, : i like it
LG
Sir-ay

What is going to be the first phone to support this and when is HTC going to release a device that supports it? I want it.

The have a development panel available here:
http://www.stantum.com/spip.php?article74

DRTigerlilly said:
i was actually lambasted on engadget for suggesting it could be added to existing devices, it appears the article misstates that it is solely software based when there are hardware components as well.
Therefore its not something we're going to see on existing devices. Supposedly that question was asked & answered in the videos.
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This post made me die a little inside

DRTigerlilly said:
i was actually lambasted on engadget for suggesting it could be added to existing devices, it appears the article misstates that it is solely software based when there are hardware components as well.
Therefore its not something we're going to see on existing devices. Supposedly that question was asked & answered in the videos.
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Yeah, When asked at the very end of the 1st video he kinda stumbles his words but says that it requires the screen manufactured to a spec. But that it works with existing technology.

Psyberd said:
If you're going to dream.... Why not Dream phone Quad core AMD cpu nVida Tegra III with physX 8" flexible folding screen, OLED 1080p Pico projector V 20gb flash drive dual micoSDHC dual SIM, USB3 host, 1 GB DDR4, WiMax, 5G hehehe and ummmmm oh for sure a Carbon Nanofiber hybred battery so you recharge once a month hehe even with daily heavy use.
it's a dream why not
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LOL - I laughed hard at your response. But all the tech specs I used are at least available now for use with next gen phones. Funny response to my sig though!!!!

Psyberd said:
If you're going to dream.... Why not Dream phone Quad core AMD cpu nVida Tegra III with physX 8" flexible folding screen, OLED 1080p Pico projector V 20gb flash drive dual micoSDHC dual SIM, USB3 host, 1 GB DDR4, WiMax, 5G hehehe and ummmmm oh for sure a Carbon Nanofiber hybred battery so you recharge once a month hehe even with daily heavy use.
it's a dream why not
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Why would you want to ruin a perfectly good phone by getting AMD involved?
A week into owning it, one of the CPU cores would probably have failed...

I'd sell a kidney for a screen like that.
Well, someone else's kidney at least...

Would you consider getting a 7" version of the SGS2?

So after owning a SGS2, would you consider a 7" version of it? HELL THE FRAK YEAH I WOULD! Esp for videos. I have to re-encode my MKV's just to be able to watch them on my TF101, so being able to watch movies w/o re-encoding is a big plus for me. Of course there are other methods to watch movies on a Tegra2 device but I prefer natively.
If you're like me then read below for more info.
http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-7-coming-this-fall-but-with-gingerbread-20110615/
http://www.crunchgear.com/2011/06/15/galaxy-tab-seven-will-run-gingerbread-2-3-4/
* Exynos 1.2 GHz dual-core processor
* 1GB RAM, 2GB ROM
* Android 2.3.4 Gingerbread w/ TouchWiz 4.0
* 16GB of internal memory
* Micro SD slot
* Tab proprietary connector with USB Host capabilities (via adapter)
* 7 inch WSVGA IPS display
* Ability to call, video call and send SMS messages
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But then again, Tegra3 is hopefully coming out at the end of the year & that has me considering if I should of not but at least with a 7" tablet, it's easier to carry around than a 10" tablet on the go.

haha! i WOULD LOVE ONE!! But not that one!
It appears that's going to be a "medium" device.
Just my opinion, but if I'm going to be paying that much (that being a very high price) I want the best, compared to what's in the market.
If I was getting something this fall, I'd either wait till next year to get a quad-core GPU, ultra-high resolution display (MAYBE Super AMOLED ultra high res)
Plus I'd want it to have Ice Cream.

daivik said:
haha! i WOULD LOVE ONE!! But not that one!
It appears that's going to be a "medium" device.
Just my opinion, but if I'm going to be paying that much (that being a very high price) I want the best, compared to what's in the market.
If I was getting something this fall, I'd either wait till next year to get a quad-core GPU, ultra-high resolution display (MAYBE Super AMOLED ultra high res)
Plus I'd want it to have Ice Cream.
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True. if the price is too much then I won't consider getting one. If it's affordable then I would consider it.
I'll be getting a Quad Core tablet when it comes out but having a smaller tablet has it's advantages too.
I believe you could run ICE CREAM on that hardware down the road.
With this, it will keep me busy until the Quad Cores come out in the winter time. Of course, this is based on if it does come out during the fall as speculated.

i hope u werent talking about using it as a phone, like some have with the 1st gen galaxy tab....
but using it as a tab, then yes, of course.

I have both 7" galaxy tab and sgs2 (was sgs til a few days ago)
If they have the spec of the sgs2 with a 7" screen it would be awesome! The tab only lacks the super amoled screen against the sgs, but run a duel core processor and amoled and it would be the best tablet IMO
Oh and those questioning the tab being overpriced, carphone are selling em sim free for £250 to clear (limited stock in stores only)
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for 250 pounds I'd buy one but atm for tablets you can't beat the ipad2 (hw/price wise), those ipads are so cheep and the android tablets so expensive
google should give part of it revenue from the market to the hw manufacturer, so they can lower their prices and be competitive with the ipads

I would get one only if it supported NTFS. What is the point being able to play full res videos/movies when you are limited to only 4GB on FAT32.

wish it were a 5 inch screen

I've already got one, it's called a Samsung Galaxy Tab.
Unless you want to play high-end games it does everything just fine including playing any media I throw at it.

After Careful Analysis of Trends and Rumors, here is what I think of the S3 / Note 2!

Well, after cross-referencing other sources, it is very well likely for the below specifications to appear on new models this year. Applicable to S3 and Note 2. - Cheers!
Next Month Samsung will be announcing who knows, how many new devices. One of the expected models is the Galaxy S3 and possibly, Note 2.
I can say the S3 will have the following after doing a careful analysis of trends and rumors,
4.5" OR 4.65" SAMOLED HD Pentile or RGB/Plus Display with 3D (also known as Super AMOLED III) with 1280x720 Resolution, Lotus Glass
1.5 GHz Quad Core Processor 32nm (Exynos 4412 with Mali T604)
2gb LPDDR2, DDR2 or DDR3 Ram (Dual Channel)
16 or 12 Megapixel Lens Rear Camera (Samsung Technology)
3.2 Megapixel Front Camera with Face Detection
16gb or 32gb Built in Memory Expandable up to 64GB
Bluetooth 4.0
Built In NFC
Ice Cream Sandwich
2000mAh Battery
HzO Technology--water-proof technology
ETA--Late Spring, 2012
Who wants to bet?!
I can say the Note 2 will have the following after doing a careful analysis of trends and rumors,
5.3" SAMOLED HD Pentile Display with 3D (also known as Super AMOLED III) with 1280x800 Resolution, Lotus Glass
1.8 GHz Quad Core Processor 32nm (Exynos 4412 with Mali T604) or 2.0GHz Dual Core Processor 32nm (Exynos 5250 with Mali T604)
2gb LPDDR2, DDR2 or DDR3 Ram
16 or 12 Megapixel Lens Rear Camera (Samsung Technology)
3.2 Megapixel Front Camera with Face Detection
16gb or 32gb Built in Memory Expandable up to 64GB
Bluetooth 4.0 (or possibly 5.0)
USB 3.0
Built In NFC
Ice Cream Sandwich
2750mAh Battery
HzO Technology--water-proof technology
ETA: mid-Summer, 2012
Who wants to bet?!
A 4.5" inch screen is more probable. I agree.
Well, a possible release date of Jelly Bean has yet to be confirmed. And if released in August this year, this certainly will not be in the Note 2. Jelly Bean will first arrive in Nexus 4 and it will take developers a few weeks to overlay their UI's on newer models
Touchwiz 5.0 is obvious for new devices coming out with ICS, so no need to include that in the specifications. Existing S2 and and Note will have ICS soon, but with the existing Touchwiz 4.0 interface.
16MP looks promising since sensors were already introduced late last year, Oct. 2011
Battery seems to be appropriate for the S2, since the battery compartment size will be able accommodate larger batteries due to the .2" inch increase in screen size.
3D may or may not appear. What remains suspicious is how Samsung decided to refer their new AMOLED displays as SAMOLED 3. HEY, YOU NEVER KNOW!
HzO is a possibility, but seeing that Samsung has to shell extra money out of their pockets puts this feature into question.
2GB will be able to accommodate more processes to run in the background, and since the CPU will be bumped, 2GB doesn't look like too much.
The Exynos 5250 (A15) that you are referring to may be featured in Phablets and or Tablets. This we will have to wait and see.
I think a lot of these updates are obvious, so as the clock ticks, we sit down and think.

I would lower the CPU frequency to 1.8 Ghz, the camera to 12 megapixels and the battery to 2000 mAh (you wrote mV, that's not the correct unit for refering to charge).

SAlmighty said:
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Money or peanuts /
jje

I don't see why they would use a weaker cpu in the Galaxy Note 2.
2Ghz A15 dual-core >>1.5 Ghz A9 quad-core

The Mali T604 still won't beat the SGX543/4MP2, so for all your fan boys who bums benchmark don't get too over excited. Unless its a Mali T604MP2.

It's too early for the Galaxy Note 2

I'll take that bet because this is totally wrong.
SIII will not ship with 5250 because it won't be ready in time. It will use the quad-core 4412 since that's the most powerful SoC that will be available for mass production for SIII timetable. Heck, there are no devices even running 4412 yet it's so new, 5250 is even newer and won't be used in devices until later in the year, most likely next top end tablet.
It will not have 2GB of ram, too big of a jump, but 1.5GB instead max.
Camera 12MP at most.
Note II ..come on, that's a year away.

Note 2 won't be announced in WMC if we go by the timing of last year's announcements.
Definitely Note 2 won't be using 1280*800 Super AMOLED. It would either be a RGB (+ moniker) at this resolution or something like PenTile at 1600*1000 resolution.
Don't think 2Ghz for GS3. Samsung will "surely" reduce the clock speed to save battery. This was the same strategy they used for GN where they under-clocked OMAP 4460 to 1.2GHz instead of stock 1.5Ghz. This will require a lower operating voltage. Dropping core voltage yields a more than a linear decrease in power consumption. So, if they using 5250, my guess is like 1.5Ghz. A lot of discussion and recent press from Samsung about battery-life. But I doubt they can do something extraordinary because of the large AMOLED screen. Unfortunately all websites are smitten with white. They had to reduce the brightness drastically in
AMOLED's to save battery. In GN, it barely crosses 200 Nits.
I am expecting HD Super AMOLED "Plus" in GS3.
About camera, you may want to check this: http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/newsView.do?news_id=1262
Too early to speculate about Note. But definitely it would be clocked higher than GS3 and will have bigger battery - like 3000 mAh and will have better resolution.

"About camera, you may want to check this: http://www.samsung.com/global/busine...o?news_id=1262 "
pretty certain it get a 16mp camera ,60 fps HD recording ....

I would say that a 720 samoled+ (rgb) screen is likely, not sure if the a15s are even samplerling yet so I wouldn't expect one, higher clocked exynos or maybe the quad (but that would be murder on the battery IMO).
Rumor is rumor, zzz
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I remember a lot of threads in the HD2 general section, saying "The HD3 will have this" and "The HD3 will have that".
Has the SGS3 actually been officially confirmed?

rd_nest said:
Note 2 won't be announced in WMC if we go by the timing of last year's announcements.
Definitely Note 2 won't be using 1280*800 Super AMOLED. It would either be a RGB (+ moniker) at this resolution or something like PenTile at 1600*1000 resolution.
Don't think 2Ghz for GS3. Samsung will "surely" reduce the clock speed to save battery. This was the same strategy they used for GN where they under-clocked OMAP 4460 to 1.2GHz instead of stock 1.5Ghz. This will require a lower operating voltage. Dropping core voltage yields a more than a linear decrease in power consumption. So, if they using 5250, my guess is like 1.5Ghz. A lot of discussion and recent press from Samsung about battery-life. But I doubt they can do something extraordinary because of the large AMOLED screen. Unfortunately all websites are smitten with white. They had to reduce the brightness drastically in
AMOLED's to save battery. In GN, it barely crosses 200 Nits.
I am expecting HD Super AMOLED "Plus" in GS3.
About camera, you may want to check this: http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/newsView.do?news_id=1262
Too early to speculate about Note. But definitely it would be clocked higher than GS3 and will have bigger battery - like 3000 mAh and will have better resolution.
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No offence but your wrong for the clockspeed anyways. The reason why they downclocked it, yes was to save battery BUT was manufactured on 45nm whereas these are 32nm WHICH IS a huge difference between power comsumption and heat different. So 1.5Ghz seems fine to me since it'll either provide equal power or less. Nanometer plays quite a huge role in power consumption

My contract ends tomorrow, currently I have sgs2 do you think it is worth upgrading now to maybe Galaxy Note or wait for the new devices?

brodzik said:
My contract ends tomorrow, currently I have sgs2 do you think it is worth upgrading now to maybe Galaxy Note or wait for the new devices?
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Wait. Your phone is good enough to last you for another year at least. Compare to other phones on the market and what is being planned to be released of what we know off you have still one of the best if not the best android phone in the market..So enjoy your phone slap ICS when that comes out and wait for the S3 when it gets released

Archer said:
I remember a lot of threads in the HD2 general section, saying "The HD3 will have this" and "The HD3 will have that".
Has the SGS3 actually been officially confirmed?
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Mhm. And the successor was the HD7, in a way Lawl.
$1 gets you a reply

cokeman2 said:
"About camera, you may want to check this: http://www.samsung.com/global/busine...o?news_id=1262 "
pretty certain it get a 16mp camera ,60 fps HD recording ....
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I hope they wont go any higher with the mp count as it actually decreases picture quality in terms of noise and lowlight. Its a phone and 8mp is more than enough. Hell my dsrl has 12mp wich is plenty and that on a sensor that is like 20 times bigger than the one in the gs2 and 4s.. More is not always better....
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Money or peanuts /
jje
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Peanut Brittle..
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Lol 3D? Not a chance in hell... If Sammy does that ( which I'm nearly 100% sure they will not ) after HTC and LG failed miserably with Evo3D and Optimus3D, respectively, then I will consider them idiots....

@OP: After less than careful analysis of your post I can confidently say that you are wrong.

Whoops, Physics 101, didn't proofread, thanks.
Filiprino said:
I would lower the CPU frequency to 1.8 Ghz, the camera to 12 megapixels and the battery to 2000 mAh (you wrote mV, that's not the correct unit for refering to charge).
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I hope...

The iPhone 5 really takes a good jab at the Galaxy S III so it teaches Samsung to stop being lazy with their hardware. They thought they could rest on their laurels and produce a so so product because they had a bit of hype under their sail.
I wanted them to go above and beyond the norm of the average when it comes to phones. Same GPU, RAM from last year? A modest clocked CPU? They clearly didn't go above and beyond like the last time. I don't see the improvement in the camera aside from snapping photos a bit faster; albeit its supposed to have zero shutter lag. They even cut the front facing camera back by .1 megapixels.
I hope they focus more on specs next time around since they honed in on software. With under 2 GB of ram, this phone isn't as future proof.

I also thought they would 'improve' the battery. At least 2,300 mAh would have been a more sufficient improvement.

megagodx said:
The iPhone 5 really takes a good jab at the Galaxy S III so it teaches Samsung to stop being lazy with their hardware. They thought they could rest on their laurels and produce a so so product because they had a bit of hype under their sail.
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iPhone will be an average phone when it comes as all iPhones are. Maybe good display and camera but thats it.
megagodx said:
I wanted them to go above and beyond the norm of the average when it comes to phones. Same GPU, RAM from last year? A modest clocked CPU? They clearly didn't go above and beyond like the last time. I don't see the improvement in the camera aside from snapping photos a bit faster; albeit its supposed to have zero shutter lag. They even cut the front facing camera back by .1 megapixels.
I hope they focus more on specs next time around since they honed in on software. With under 2 GB of ram, this phone isn't as future proof.
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GPU is not the same. Just because it states Mali 400 doesnt mean its the same. It's like saying corei7 are all the same while there are many versions. This Mali 400 is better than its predecessor.
RAM is not the same either, just the same amount.
The CPU is clocked at 1.4 for battery consumption purposes. It can certainly be pushed.
The Front Camera records 720p and its 1.9mpixels instead of 1.3 that HOX's is. Maybe the megapixels there had to do with the ability to record 720p? I don't really know but 0.1 mpixels doesnt mean worse
A phone doesn't practically need more than 1GB of RAM. Since you don't notice any lags, the games run smoothly and you don't get any memory full messages I see no reason why to whine about more RAM
Well... I understand that people want revolution but why would samsung raise the competition when they are still ahead with less?

Damn what are you running that makes you want 2GB of ram
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New Jolla Phone Announcement 20/05/13

Jolla will be announcing a new phone, you may have heard of this, will be announced tomorrow (20/05/13 at 4:30pm GMT), here is a live stream to the event I found from the Jolla official twitter account. #IAmTheOtherHalf
From what I have heard the screen will be no larger than 5" in size, and will likely get a physical slide out qwerty keyboard, don't quote me on this, just from research, that is all I found

It's 5/20 not 5/13. The only thing we know is Engadget guessed it was 5 inches from when Marc partially took it out of his pocket.

aironeous said:
It's 5/20 not 5/13. The only thing we know is Engadget guessed it was 5 inches from when Marc partially took it out of his pocket.
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some people in different countries represent the date in different ways, I did day/month/year as I am from UK.
UPDATE:
4.5" screen (unknown resolution at this time, known to be HD so either 720p or 1080p
dual core processor (unknown clock speed)
unknown RAM
unknown GPU
8mp AF camera
seems to have a front facing camera of unknown mp count.
replaceable battery
4G (LTE)
16GB + microsd card expandability
unknown battery size/life
(All specs quoted from jolla website)
disappointed that it is not quad core but as the OS is based on C++, efficiency will be much better than Android, providing the RAM is of decent size and the GPU is good, it shouldn't make that much difference speed wise, also doesn't seem to have a qwerty keyboard (only reason why I thought it would is that, one of the guys at Jolla in an interview, stated that more phones should have a physical qwerty keyboard.)

i am waiting for jolla :laugh:

nh1402 said:
some people in different countries represent the date in different ways, I did day/month/year as I am from UK.
UPDATE:
4.5" screen (unknown resolution at this time, known to be HD so either 720p or 1080p
dual core processor (unknown clock speed)
unknown RAM
unknown GPU
8mp AF camera
seems to have a front facing camera of unknown mp count.
replaceable battery
4G (LTE)
16GB + microsd card expandability
unknown battery size/life
(All specs quoted from jolla website)
disappointed that it is not quad core but as the OS is based on C++, efficiency will be much better than Android, providing the RAM is of decent size and the GPU is good, it shouldn't make that much difference speed wise, also doesn't seem to have a qwerty keyboard (only reason why I thought it would is that, one of the guys at Jolla in an interview, stated that more phones should have a physical qwerty keyboard.)
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Quad core doesn't really matter in Android as the OS itself currently only supports 2, apps have to specifically use the extra cores, and only a few games do. I believe KLP is supposed to change that to "N" cores (along with full Intel support). Because Android used a VM, it is RAM that makes the biggest difference. That is why iOS and WP7/8 are so smooth with much lower RAM than Android.
I have read, and anyone can correct me on this, that KLP is the start of moving away from Dalvik and will support ARM and x86 natively with fat binaries. This is the rumour why KLP was not released at I/O, because they are re-writing the OS as native.
As you mentioned, Sailfish is a native OS, it won't need as high of specs as Android, which also means cheaper phones (in theory).

I was just saying future proof wise, if their OS supports Quad-Core, and they provide one in their first phone, they could just stick with this phone for a while, as it wouldn't need to be updated yearly, to keep with the competition. The phone as of the last time I checked had the equivalent price of £350, which is more than a Nexus 4, and yet that has a quad core processor, I have mentioned that to Jolla via their support page, and will be releasing more details as the release date gets closer, the main thing that was a huge turn off for me was not the Quad Core processor as much but the MASSIVE Bezel around the 4.5" screen, but then found out that the final design of the phone will have a smaller bezel, as mentioned by the lead designer at Jolla.

If they want anyone to buy their phone, it just has to be cheaper. Nokia made pretty good inroads with their Lumia devices by making them very inexpensive (and often free) on contract. Windows Phone is now at 5% market share, and it is almost entirely Lumia devices. With Jolla being former Nokia people, hopefully they will understand this instead of making the mistake Palm did with the Prē
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