Is there any way at all to disable the Fascinate from ever loading into safe mode again? It's really annoying when it happens because I have to reset all my widgets.
I've flashed my phone several times and it happens with every rom that I've had on it so is it part of the baseband kernel?
Get rid of the conflict that puts you in safemode. Safemode has to be better than your phone bricking.
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Get rid of the conflict that puts you in safemode. Safemode has to be better than your phone bricking.
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List off the steps you used when flashing these last few roms (and what rom specifically) that you say are making you boot into safe mode...I've only seen it once on my phone and 1 reboot fixed it and I never seen it again, but that was months ago and I just chalked it up to me missing a step?! I have flashed many roms since and never see safe mode again.
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Im starting to think that it's more a problem with my Fascinate than anything else. It usually happens when I have to pull the battery due to it locking up. Sometimes pulling the battery out a second time still doesn't get me out of safe mode and I have to continuously do it until it does.
For the past few months I've been using CM7 and updating with nightlies. On Monday I updated to the stable GLITCH kernel and so far it seems to be running much better. It's always had a problem with randomly bringing up my keyboard and backing out of apps and I have not had that problem yet since putting the GLITCH kernel on it.
Figured I'd also note in here that the GLITCH kernel is not currently working with the newest Cyanogen nightlies. It bootloops and I found that out the hard way.
For now im running GLITCH v11.1ML and CM7 Nightly 35 and it's been great so far.
so glad I havent run into safe mode
Hi all,
EDIT2: MAIN PROBLEM FIXED!
I was incredibly frustrated last night, so I figured I'd just re-root as I have a copy of the stock flash tools and a TOT file sitting on my PC should I need to return.
I rooted (again), installed binaries, uninstalled Superuser, installed Super SU, and (just for fun) installed Greenify.
Lo and behold, I rebooted three times now and NO KNOCK LOOP!
I'm still having issues with knock-on not waking the phone sometimes, but once I hit the power button everything works fine.
As I posted above, the proximity sensor app seems to have a huge delay when uncovered. 3-15 seconds at totally random intervals. This might explain my still present knock-on delay issues.... ?
EDIT: Not Greenify causing this, but some other combo of rooting and system file changes. Could also be the proximity sensor misbehaving or just a bad copy of the phone.
Just a friendly PSA, but Greenify (the popular hibernation app that is really awesome) will gimp your knock-on feature for good. As in: returning to stock does not fix it. Myself and at least one other user have had this problem. I'm now having to swap out my phone after just getting it how I like it, which is infuriating.
I'd rather wait until somebody gets a fix up, but I'm within 14-days so I'm not risking it.
Note: This is CLEARLY not the fault of Greenify. It's some bizarre file system/sensor error. Greenify is great.
Related thread where the problem was thought to be fixed... but is not for people who installed Greenify.
I'm using the Verizon variant, so I don't know if this applies to GSM models.
From a dev standpoint this makes zero sense to me, so I'm kind of curious if anybody has better insight. Greenify, for the most part, is just leveraging system-level features to disallow the start-up of a particular program when the screen is off.
I am personally using Greenify on a number of apps with success and no ill side-effects. There are a number of code dependencies involved in its use, but mainly it is the knock-on related apk/odex in /system/app - so is it possible these people are Greenifying the wrong things?
Also, I would question their return to stock, Greenify doesn't work on a hardware level. If they didn't return the right files and/or kernel to stock, yeah, it might have lingering ill-effects. I would say that merely flashing a stock ROM is not returning to stock. It isn't clean enough.
tl;dr: There is no logical reason in my mind that Greenify would permanently break knock-on. I need more proof.
I've been using greenify since the day after I got the phone and rooted it, so 2 weeks now, and knock on works perfectly every single time.
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and I'm on the Verizon version. what app are you guys hibernating that's causing this?
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burningembers said:
From a dev standpoint this makes zero sense to me, so I'm kind of curious if anybody has better insight. Greenify, for the most part, is just leveraging system-level features to disallow the start-up of a particular program when the screen is off.
I am personally using Greenify on a number of apps with success and no ill side-effects. There are a number of code dependencies involved in its use, but mainly it is the knock-on related apk/odex in /system/app - so is it possible these people are Greenifying the wrong things?
Also, I would question their return to stock, Greenify doesn't work on a hardware level. If they didn't return the right files and/or kernel to stock, yeah, it might have lingering ill-effects. I would say that merely flashing a stock ROM is not returning to stock. It isn't clean enough.
tl;dr: There is no logical reason in my mind that Greenify would permanently break knock-on. I need more proof.
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I'd have to agree with this!!
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Knock on seems to work on mine (most of the time anyway) while using Greenify for a couple of weeks now. If it was going to gimp it, I'm thinking it would have by now. I have the T-Mobile variant. Its basically just hibernating apps from the market, not any system apps so I guess I don't see the correlation.
Greenify works for me
I'm stock rooted and I heavily use Greenify with my Verizon G2. No problems with Knock On at all!
Edit: Stock rooted (not the chinese way), no OTA, auto-hibernation feature works perfectly too.
um question... did you guys who have the problem use the Chinese root method? someone brought it up and now I'm curious....
i did but then flashed back to stock to reroot the good way. you guys who aren't having the issue with me, you use Chinese or regular?
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I only froze Facebook and Twitter. Have completely Re flashed stock and BlackHole ROM to no avail. Read the thread, it seems to be vexing even advanced users. The fix of changing screen effect does not resolve it.
YMMV
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lattiboy said:
I only froze Facebook and Twitter. Have completely Re flashed stock and BlackHole ROM to no avail. Read the thread, it seems to be vexing even advanced users. The fix of changing screen effect does not resolve it.
YMMV
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When you say re-flashed stock, what does that mean?
Are all affected users on Verizon and using BlackHole ROM?
I'm just trying to narrow this scope down, because this still makes no sense to me.
burningembers said:
When you say re-flashed stock, what does that mean?
Are all affected users on Verizon and using BlackHole ROM?
I'm just trying to narrow this scope down, because this still makes no sense to me.
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1) I rooted
2) installed Greenify
3) bug happens the next morning.
4) went back to stock, using these instructions.
5) bug happens again
6) re-rooted and installed BlackHole ROM.
Everything was (seemingly) cool for a bit, but last night it happened again. Twice this morning I've had the weird behavior sited in the original thread and I'm going to take it into VZW and leave stock in until this gets figured out.
Again, not trying to cause alarm or panic. I'll update my post to reflect the YMMV nature of this issue.
You should really rename this thread. I have not experienced any knock issues and I've installed this app since I bought the phone. False psa
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lattiboy said:
1) I rooted
2) installed Greenify
3) bug happens the next morning.
4) went back to stock, using these instructions.
5) bug happens again
6) re-rooted and installed BlackHole ROM.
Everything was (seemingly) cool for a bit, but last night it happened again. Twice this morning I've had the weird behavior sited in the original thread and I'm going to take it into VZW and leave stock in until this gets figured out.
Again, not trying to cause alarm or panic. I'll update my post to reflect the YMMV nature of this issue.
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Are you using a custom launcher or does the rom install a custom launcher? That would surely affect the knock on feature.
SysAdmNj said:
Are you using a custom launcher or does the rom install a custom launcher? That would surely affect the knock on feature.
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Nope, using stock home, never even installed Nova or anything else.
I added a big YMMV to it, but because the outcome seems quite dire on such an expensive device, I feel this is warranted.
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Nope, using stock home, never even installed Nova or anything else.
I added a big YMMV to it, but because the outcome seems quite dire on such an expensive device, I feel this is warranted.
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You went back to stock, rooted, installed greenify and still the same issue? Which root method did you use, the chinese one?
The issue might be caused by misuse of Greenify. Have you greenified any system apps related to the Knock-on feature?
Greenify should never "damage" your device in a non-recoverable way since it never touches any system files. Just simply de-greenify the app and manually relaunch it once to restore everything to normal.
Hope one of you G2 users could find out that key greenified app which caused this terrible issue, thus we could warn others in a more effective way.
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Nope, using stock home, never even installed Nova or anything else.
I added a big YMMV to it, but because the outcome seems quite dire on such an expensive device, I feel this is warranted.
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Yeah, it is an expensive device, but when you go rooting it and mucking around with system files, it is kind of a risk you take. My real issue is two-fold 1) Bad publicity for Greenify when I still don't believe it to be a problem with Greenify and 2) That LG/Verizon are taking a loss on time/cost because users are essentially breaking their own device. I put this on-par with you putting your phone in a bucket of water and then going back to Verizon and getting a new one because it doesn't work.
Now, that said, maybe this truly is a HARDWARE bug/issue with the Verizon model. On AT&T I have Facebook, Humble Bundle, Keep, OfficeSuite, Reddit News, Series Guide, and Google Search greenified. I've modified system APKs. I've flashed some ROMs. I've toggled Knockon off/on in settings. And my phone is fine.
Someone needs to start data collecting. What model phone do these users have, did they take the OTA, did they at some-point use Chinese root method, are they in a dark room, did they toggle Knockon on/off, does toggling knockon on/off on an in-store device result in a similar issue, are they all on Verizon, etc. etc.
One thing someone mentioned the other day was that the latest Verizon OTA changed the scheduler from CFQ to ROW. Is it possible that this is borking the knockon application from staying in the queue properly to register the knockon events?
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Yeah, it is an expensive device, but when you go rooting it and mucking around with system files, it is kind of a risk you take. My real issue is two-fold 1) Bad publicity for Greenify when I still don't believe it to be a problem with Greenify and 2) That LG/Verizon are taking a loss on time/cost because users are essentially breaking their own device. I put this on-par with you putting your phone in a bucket of water and then going back to Verizon and getting a new one because it doesn't work.
Now, that said, maybe this truly is a HARDWARE bug/issue with the Verizon model. On AT&T I have Facebook, Humble Bundle, Keep, OfficeSuite, Reddit News, Series Guide, and Google Search greenified. I've modified system APKs. I've flashed some ROMs. I've toggled Knockon off/on in settings. And my phone is fine.
Someone needs to start data collecting. What model phone do these users have, did they take the OTA, did they at some-point use Chinese root method, are they in a dark room, did they toggle Knockon on/off, does toggling knockon on/off on an in-store device result in a similar issue, are they all on Verizon, etc. etc.
One thing someone mentioned the other day was that the latest Verizon OTA changed the scheduler from CFQ to ROW. Is it possible that this is borking the knockon application from staying in the queue properly to register the knockon events?
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I did take the OTA, but before flashing the current version of TWRP.
I feel bad about it and I should've waited until these kinds of things were worked out.
I'm trying one last flash back to stock to make sure it isn't a user generated problem with flashing incorrectly.
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I did take the OTA, but before flashing the current version of TWRP.
I feel bad about it and I should've waited until these kinds of things were worked out.
I'm trying one last flash back to stock to make sure it isn't a user generated problem with flashing incorrectly.
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So flashing back to pre-OTA doesn't clear the problem at all?
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So flashing back to pre-OTA doesn't clear the problem at all?
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No, I just flashed to stock (yet again) and I got the weird wake-lock freeze thing within 30 minutes.
Super annoying.
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No, I just flashed to stock (yet again) and I got the weird wake-lock freeze thing within 30 minutes.
Super annoying.
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What's your Baseband and Kernel version in Software Information?
I know for a *fact* that the OTA changed the cpu scheduler. What I'm curious is if their scheduler changes have somehow caused service-level applications like the KnockOn APK to die/hibernate during a lengthy deep sleep. This makes way more sense to me than merely using Greenify causing a permanent breaking of software/kernel interactions.
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What's your Baseband and Kernel version in Software Information?.
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This is it. No root, fresh stock 15 minutes ago.
I recently rooted and unlocked the bootloader on my Razr M and installed a nightly build of CyanogenMod (I like to live on the edge, I guess.) The first week or so with it was going great, no issues as far as I could tell.
Then I installed a social application that requires GPS location. I noticed that the first time after enabling this the phone would freeze when plugged in to charge. It would freeze to the point where hitting the wake up button wouldn't even activate the screen. Not always, but it has happened on several occasions. So now whenever I charge it (daily), I have to force reboot (hold down Up, Down, Power in that order.) Sometimes it'll even go through the process of "Optimizing Apps" as if they were all just installed.
Firstly, has anyone else experienced this? And if so, is there an "easy" workaround? I can't quite pinpoint how to reproduce the bug, though I've got 3 different Cleaning applications installed that are used daily. That in mind, it's unlikely this is a memory leak bug.
Second, if there's no "easy" workaround, when can one expect the next Stable build of CyanogenMod, if ever? Is it still in development? I see that the last Stable release for this phone was in 2013. It seems like I'll have to downgrade to an earlier build, but just want some input before I do it.
Thanks much in advance
Sounds like an issue with the app, not the ROM. You said yourself that the issues started AFTER installing that app. So, delete that app and report back. Also, a lot of those cleaner apps out there will just bork your phone if you're not careful.
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My nexus 6p has worked fine for months however I woke up yesterday morning to find it would not play a video on YouTube. Continuing to use it I noticed the following symptoms:
Wont play videos of any kind (youtube, Facebook etc)
Speakers do not work at all
phone hangs and will not connect during incoming or outgoing calls. The call may connect after several minutes of the screen hanging on the blue calling screen however speakers don't work anyway.
Phone restarts itself randomly
I have tried a hard reset from recovery, wiped cache, booted to safe mode etc with no change.
The phone is bone stock and has not been rooted.
Any suggestions?
At this point I'd try rooting and just flashing stock ROM, don't install anything and see where it goes. If it survives, then maybe it was a rogue app, but that's a lot for an app to do - so it could be a hardware issue.
Same problem here.
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At this point I'd try rooting and just flashing stock ROM, don't install anything and see where it goes. If it survives, then maybe it was a rogue app, but that's a lot for an app to do - so it could be a hardware issue.
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I've got the same problem, but it happens only on stock, when I've got Chroma installed, everything is fine. One time it happened under Chroma. I don't know what causes it. Reinstalling factory images or even 7.0 doesn't help. Custom kernels didn't bring any improvement either.
Maybe there are some music drivers or something.
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I've got the same problem, but it happens only on stock, when I've got Chroma installed, everything is fine. One time it happened under Chroma. I don't know what causes it. Reinstalling factory images or even 7.0 doesn't help. Custom kernels didn't bring any improvement either.
Maybe there are some music drivers or something.
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It could be a driver thing. Didn't look like a device issue, as it'd be constant. I would go back to stock and note when it happens and then flash a custom ROM and repeat the steps, to perform a controlled test. While doing so, take logcats so Beans / others can review them.
Gone to the service becuase even on a custom ROM I couldn't get any sound. They said that it was a hardware problem (I don't agree but we will see).
No matter what rom I'm on....stock or modified...whether I'm fully wiped or not..."OK GOOGLE" detection stops listening and unchecks itself, (Always on and Personal results turn off).
Restarted, wiped cache, downgraded Google app, etc, etc. This is a major flaw and the ONLY reason I'm unhappy with this phone...isn't anyone else having these issues? H910 here, rooted with DirtySanta. VERY frustrated.
THIS is the closest thing I've seen relating to the bug I'm experiencing....but Accessibility fixes NOTHING. https://www.xda-developers.com/psa-disabling-accessibility-services-breaks-ok-google-feedback/
I don't have that issue. I am using NotSoStock rom on vs995. The only thing I changed was the build prop so that I can use the pixel launcher and google assist.
yes, I see it as well. Out of the blue the Hot Word Detection will be turned off. I am forced to turn it back on. My voice model is still in tact though, have no idea as to why this setting keeps turning itself off either.
curious, are you using TBO Black Out gapps?
I'm on stock with no root and OK Google keeps forgetting my voice. It was OK at first, then I think it broke with an update. I have it sorta stable for now.
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I'm on stock with no root and OK Google keeps forgetting my voice. It was OK at first, then I think it broke with an update. I have it sorta stable for now.
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The app doesnt seem to be forgetting my voice. The setting just gets turned off for what ever reason. When I toggle it back ON its not asking to train, so the voice remains there.
edit...I have a android wear device (smart watch) with the "OK Google" enabled. maybe it gets turned off on my v20 in favor of the wear device.
here is when it crashes
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01-18 05:02:43.939 3064 23321 W AlwaysOnHotwordDetector: startRecognition() failed with error code -19
full log, from enabling to the auto disable that occurs if anyone is interested
http://pastebin.com/Qc5YRTGT
I also have an android wear watch. You may be right, I haven't been wearing my watch the last fortnight, about the time the V20 has been behaving...
reaktor TuT said:
I'm on stock with no root and OK Google keeps forgetting my voice. It was OK at first, then I think it broke with an update. I have it sorta stable for now.
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I thought it was only me...maybe it's a Google thing
bobafx said:
I don't have that issue. I am using NotSoStock rom on vs995. The only thing I changed was the build prop so that I can use the pixel launcher and google assist.
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I had it on that rom, too. Worked, no updates at all, no system apps restored from Titanium...then stopped. Tried all of the "solutions" I found online, none worked. Kept toggling itself back off and freezing. Same as on stock. I'm on bone stock now with attkernel that I flashed and it's flying. So far, so good. But...give it a few more days. LOL.
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I also have an android wear watch. You may be right, I haven't been wearing my watch the last fortnight, about the time the V20 has been behaving...
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Nope, I definitely don't have a watch or anything. The above post talks about a bug with Accessiblilties but none of what he said fixed my issue.
cordell12 said:
The app doesnt seem to be forgetting my voice. The setting just gets turned off for what ever reason. When I toggle it back ON its not asking to train, so the voice remains there.
edit...I have a android wear device (smart watch) with the "OK Google" enabled. maybe it gets turned off on my v20 in favor of the wear device.
here is when it crashes
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01-18 05:02:43.939 3064 23321 W AlwaysOnHotwordDetector: startRecognition() failed with error code -19
full log, from enabling to the auto disable that occurs if anyone is interested
http://pastebin.com/Qc5YRTGT
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I don't have a watch. Only a bluetooth headset, car audio and bluetooth speaker. Other than that...no paired anything, in any way. It just decided to toggle "Always On" off and stay off...even after retraining, it freezes and untoggles, even on a restart or battery pull.
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I'm on stock with no root and OK Google keeps forgetting my voice. It was OK at first, then I think it broke with an update. I have it sorta stable for now.
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I thought so too...but I blocked updates...and am on root so I froze all apps that I usually install. Broke again. I'm on stock w/ root and att kernel at the moment and all SEEMS good...been a day. But, I'll update when it breaks again.
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yes, I see it as well. Out of the blue the Hot Word Detection will be turned off. I am forced to turn it back on. My voice model is still in tact though, have no idea as to why this setting keeps turning itself off either.
curious, are you using TBO Black Out gapps?
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Nope. No gapps. Was on Not So Stock...but for weeks have been going back and forth to stock w/ root and back, trying to troubleshoot. I'm now on bone stock, w/ Nova launcher and att kernel. I'm flying on it...same as other roms...and Google Now works just fine, but it's been a DAY. I'll update when/if it stops working.
Yup I had thought I may have fixed it once - but turns out it still switches off on me too. I'm on H910 with NSS ROM. I'm wondering if it has something to do with the kernel if yours is working currently on complete stock. But at least it does work on my home screen so I dont really mind much.
But yeah when going into the settings and switching Always On to ON state, and then when you go back in - the app freezes up for awhile (like about 30secs to a minute). Then it comes back up, but the Always On is toggled OFF again.
Edit: or maybe it is due to being a deODEX'ed ROM? I know occasionally issues happen for different apps when its deODEXed.
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Yup I had thought I may have fixed it once - but turns out it still switches off on me too. I'm on H910 with NSS ROM. I'm wondering if it has something to do with the kernel if yours is working currently on complete stock. But at least it does work on my home screen so I dont really mind much.
But yeah when going into the settings and switching Always On to ON state, and then when you go back in - the app freezes up for awhile (like about 30secs to a minute). Then it comes back up, but the Always On is toggled OFF again.
Edit: or maybe it is due to being a deODEX'ed ROM? I know occasionally issues happen for different apps when its deODEXed.
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FANTASTIC! I was trying to tell people I wasn't imagining it! LOL. Here's the kernel I'm using, which flies for me, zero lag, and is bone stock AT&T. https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=385035244224411218...Thank Team DevDigitel for providing this awesome kernel thread. https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/development/device-kernel-aka-boot-img-s-carrier-t3533426
I'm running this...day two of perfection... AlkaliV2's https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=457095661767123457 BONE STOCK IMAGE...attboot.img here :https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=385035244224411218.....whatever else you want like Viper4Android from here...http://downloadmirror.co/2zYA/ViPER4Android_2.5.0.5_guitardedhero.zip (Don't forget to delete or add .bak to audio_effects.conf, in file manager in TWRP at system/vendor/etc, after mounting system) ...and of course lastly, don't forget to flash SuperSU 2.79 flashable zip from here: https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/supersu/download/zip/SuperSU-v2.79-201612051815.zip. I then, only use Titanium Backup Pro to restore apps only, no data...and no system apps.
Try it and lemme know how you fare. I'm glad I'm cruising beautifully for now...with the exception of Viper4Android stopping working like I've experienced on all roms.
Best of luck!!!!:good: