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So this morning I got a call from a friend who told me that his TF is running like crap after doing OTA upgrade to ICS.
We met up at school and I got to take a look at it. Yes, it was indeed running like crap and it even randomly rebooted while we were eating breakfast. He told me the random reboots were happening every 3-5 hours(that he could notice).
Here's what I did to fix it.
Removed his MicroSD card(not sure if necessary)
Shut down TF.
Hold [volume down] and [power] button together until you get into reset mode with 2 icons in the center of screen. Left icon is Wipe Data. Right icon is Cold boot. Right icon is selected by default.
Press [volume down] to highlight the LEFT ICON, which is Wipe Data.
Press [volume up] to confirm your selection
Go through the process.
Let your TF reboot.
Shut down TF again.
Hold [volume down] and [power] button together until you get into reset mode with 2 icons in the center of screen.
You need to do cold boot. It's already selected by default so just wait like 10 seconds and it will happen automatically. Press [volume up] if you don't want to wait.
Go through the process. Your TF will reboot afterwards.
Done.
It has been over 24 hours and his TF has been running smooth without any glitches or any random reboot. I told him to let me know immediately if a random reboot happens again.
This is simple to do. Worth trying unless you can't read English.
Edit: I didn't include this at first because I thought it would be common sense for everyone but it apparently isn't....
DO NOT JUST RESTORE ALL YOUR PREVIOUS APPS AND WIDGETS YOU HAD FROM HONEYCOMB. THAT DEFEATS THE ENTIRE PURPOSE OF DOING A RESET AND PREVENTING APP INCOMPATIBILITY.
thnx man for sharing . I actually tried every thing to solve this issue but no luck , I'll try your as sson as i go home .
This did indeed work for me as well. I tried this a couple days ago and I have yet to have any freezes or random reboots. I think that not restoring any backed up data, apps or settings is key to fixing the problem. I'm now very happy with ICS- burn in hell Honeycomb.
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When you switch from a version like HC. This is what you exactly should do!
I did this and never experienced random reboots.
My Transformer is running since three days and everything works fine!
Edit:
Another quick hint:
If you want to work with Google Docs, you have to disable Forced Hardware Rendering!
I see on forum the problem is google+
So I removed google+... Wait and see...
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billouetaudrey said:
I see on forum the problem is google+
So I removed google+... Wait and see...
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.....lol, why post in this thread that you are not going to follow the advice of the Op?.......
Sorry to say but this is not working, already done this since the minute it was out and still have so now and then a hang boot
(random reboots that hangs on the boot)
Giving it a try
I am experiencing random reboots after ICS
Wiped transformer, cold booted, and installed the following.
Adobe Reader
Dog Catcher
updated G+ and GMail but have not run it.
Charging now, I will let you know.
Previously I had wiped it and reinstalled all, disabled syncing, disabled location info, adjusted wi-fi settings, and added CPU throttle control obviously none worked.
It might have helped some people, but it did not help me. Unless it was dogcatcher.
5 or so minutes after unhooking it from the charger, I tried to wake it. And it was unresponsive. Was only able to wake it by holding down the vol down and power button at the same time.
I will kill off Dogcatcher and try again but it is not looking so good.
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It might have helped some people, but it did not help me. Unless it was dogcatcher.
5 or so minutes after unhooking it from the charger, I tried to wake it. And it was unresponsive. Was only able to wake it by holding down the vol down and power button at the same time.
I will kill off Dogcatcher and try again but it is not looking so good.
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why are you installing dogcatcher? And this does work.. do it again. Don't install your apps.enusre it dos not lock up before you install anything.... If it locks up before you install any apps then call Asus. If not start installing one app at a time. Wait after each install. Ensure that its not doing it, once you are sure install Another ....rinse/repeat....
I installed dogcatcher because I needed something to listen to on the way in to work. I have uninstalled it. But I doubt that is the issue.
I have had these sorts of reboots on my Transformer until the third or fourth Honeycomb update. But eventually they fixed it. I suspected this would happen again.
Considering that dogcatcher one of the most popular podcast apps on the market I suspect that there are many people with no problems using it just fine.
But since I need a podcast listener to be able to use the device as I want to, does anyone without issues have a podcast listener that they use?
2 hours into the last experiment and it died again while sleeping.
So that about sums it up. This procedure might help with some issues Transformer's are having but not all.
Recap. Wiped, cold booted, gmail setup, G+ updated still equals failure.
I love how horndroid 'solved' this issue and then goes on the belittle people who are still having it as 'stupid', and probably their own fault. Horndroid, I appreciate your attempt to contribute, but your attitude and stabbing-in-the-dark protocol is not becoming nor helpful to anyone. Definitive statements pertaining to ONE TF101 device that you own are quite naive, there are several different models, and until you have personal access to each model version you should advertise your 'solutions' as "worked for ME", and understand if it doesn't work with others it isn't THEIR fault..this is not a blanket solution for every device's reboot problems. In fact, I am willing to bet the reboots being resolved by this method are of an entirely different genesis than the reboots that I and others are experiencing (hang-boots).
I hear what you are saying I have the reboot issue as well.
I did a reset before and after and only installed xda HD and ran it for 2 days and got 3 reboots so I did the cold boot and then it did it 2 more times that day. Earlier today I almost couldn't get out of the boot loop, so I wouldn't say its a app problem its something wrong with the firmware somewhere
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Some aren't too lazy we just don't want to wipe data after every update. I think i have gotten 4? OTA updates and 2 of them screwed up deep sleep while docked. Guess what the first trouble shooting step was...wipe data. Guess what worked...the next OTA. I don't have time to read through all the different threads on the same subject but are people that flashed through cmw instead of ota having the same issue? My buddy went this route and has no issues.
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Can't read horndroid's "advice", because I have him on ignore for trolling, and have done for ages. From the tone of other posts here, it seems the "solution" is to wipe; if that's actually the case, it's total BS.
I wiped immediately before upgrading to ICS, wiped again afterwards, and have put almost no programs back on. I am and always have been on stock firmware and unrooted. I had no problems with boot loops, no problems with lockups, and only extremely rare problems with spontaneous reboots using Honeycomb. With ICS, I have had all three problems in a matter of days, and the lockups / spontaneous reboots are fairly regular (1-2 times per day.)
This is a problem with the stock rom, not a user app problem.
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Can't read horndroid's "advice", because I have him on ignore for trolling, and have done for ages. From the tone of other posts here, it seems the "solution" is to wipe; if that's actually the case, it's total BS.
I wiped immediately before upgrading to ICS, wiped again afterwards, and have put almost no programs back on. I am and always have been on stock firmware and unrooted. I had no problems with boot loops, no problems with lockups, and only extremely rare problems with spontaneous reboots using Honeycomb. With ICS, I have had all three problems in a matter of days, and the lockups / spontaneous reboots are fairly regular (1-2 times per day.)
This is a problem with the stock rom, not a user app problem.
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I reported him for verbal abuse and foul language. His attitude is not helpful, and if I were a mod he'd be gone already to think long and hard about his conduct. Anyways, taken your advice and blocked him. It is obviously an issue with the ROM, I'm beginning to think it has something to do with deep sleep, others posited that it may be media scanner, maybe combination of both? Maybe these two events are trying to happen at once and it doesn't like it.. a stab in the dark at least..
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I reported him for verbal abuse and foul language. His attitude is not helpful, and if I were a mod he'd be gone already to think long and hard about his conduct. Anyways, taken your advice and blocked him. It is obviously an issue with the ROM, I'm beginning to think it has something to do with deep sleep, others posited that it may be media scanner, maybe combination of both? Maybe these two events are trying to happen at once and it doesn't like it.. a stab in the dark at least..
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It's hilarious how you think YOUR problem is the only problem that everyone is experiencing.
For a lot of people, it was the app incompatibility that was causing them issues.
Obviously you think your problems are caused by something different, but that doesn't mean there are different problems caused by other reasons.
While all of you are speculating, at least I've posted a solution(even though it's merely doing a data wipe and cold boot, pretty much common sense) that has been proven to work for a lot of people. I've never claimed it will work for everyone; just those having problems due to app incompatibility.
I'm pretty sure this is an issue with the update itself and all these "fixes" are going to be pointless in a little while when an actual fix is released by Asus.
Hey guys... I'm still seeing some random reboots even after the 4.2.1 patch. Anyone else? Just curious if the patch is releieving this issue for some or if I'm unique. (It's disappointing to say the least... I hope it gets sorted out soon). My GN phone is having 4.2.1 reboot issues even with a custom ROM as well (though less than what I see with the tablet). Luckily, my wife's N7 has been pretty good (I suspect its rebooting on her while she's not around though, as both my other devices have done this as well).
My N10 randomly shut off (not rebooted) once so far after 4.2.1, but I only had 2 cases of random reboots back on 4.2
Yeah it's happened to me to.
Things that minimize reboots are removing apps and widgets that use Location Services. Disable location services as well.
I haven't had a reboot since I did a clean sweep. Thing like Maps will require you to go in and manually disable it. I found Facebook was one of the biggest offenders.
My old tablet (Transformer TF101) was plaqued with RR/SODs after the update to ICS. Really it still is but with a few tweaks and a custom kernel, I finally got it stablized. Why are you posting this here you say?
Because in that debacle, we found out a few things:
1, Asus will push out updates to help with the issue, but being that this is a Google "Experience" device, you should have a better chance of getting this fixed than we did.
2, I have heard repeatedly on almost every device that got 4.2 pushed that this is a problem. If you can stand it, hold out for a bit, I bet Google will get it sorted out (and not Asus).
3, we found that even though you think you are not having RRs, they may be occurring w/o your knowledge. There is an app in the market called Reboot Logger (can't remember off hand if it is a Root app or not) but it will show even the soft reboots that occur in the wee hours while you are asleep.
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Good luck and I hope this gets worked out.
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Ok... I'll stay patient. Really I was looking to make sure it wasn't something I did software wise in my setup. (I had to re-lock, to a clean reset of data/cache, finally get the .1 update, then unlocked again). (Still havn't rooted).
Someone mentioned google voice as having issues (which I suppose could go along with the location settings). I do have location off as far as GPS, but have been leaving it on for the other two checkboxes.
Thanks for the responses (and thanks for moving this thread to Q&A, sorry I posted in general!).
Hi,
My Nexus 7 2012 (very first batch) is quite often behaving really slowly. It is common for the settings screen to take 15-20 seconds to open. From the homescreen. With no running app.
Here is a video after I've reset everything to factory defaults, let it run and index things on its own for an hour and then manually upgrade a small app:
At other times, the speed is pretty decent for such a tablet. I just can't figure out why this difference. I've tried to check for wakelocks, tried a logcat and many other things. I can't make any sense from it.
Rebooting the tablet seems to have 50% chance of fixing the problem. So it's probably not a memory leak.
The tablet is rooted, on the latest build and I noticed that App Ops X survived the reset but no funky software is installed and the behaviour predates the installation of App Ops X. The network is not a problem here. The 2013 Nexus 7 of my wife works just fine and so does the Nexus 5 taking the above video.
How can I investigate this ? Is there an app that can run various reliable diagnostics to find out what kind of activity is causing trouble ? I tried to use logcat but the result is quite verbose and nothing rings a bell. I would really like to understand rather than just return it and wait or, worse, buy a new device.
Thanks.
Let me know if you find a solution my Nexus 7 has been really slow, Im rooted with CM11 M6 & KK GAPPS, TWRP 2.7.0.0 I dont know what happened to this tablet.
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My Nexus 7 2012 (very first batch) is quite often behaving really slowly. It is common for the settings screen to take 15-20 seconds to open. From the homescreen. With no running app.
At other times, the speed is pretty decent for such a tablet. I just can't figure out why this difference. I've tried to check for wakelocks, tried a logcat and many other things. I can't make any sense from it.
Rebooting the tablet seems to have 50% chance of fixing the problem. So it's probably not a memory leak.
The tablet is rooted, on the latest build and I noticed that App Ops X survived the reset but no funky software is installed and the behaviour predates the installation of App Ops X. The network is not a problem here. The 2013 Nexus 7 of my wife works just fine and so does the Nexus 5 taking the above video.
How can I investigate this ? Is there an app that can run various reliable diagnostics to find out what kind of activity is causing trouble ? I tried to use logcat but the result is quite verbose and nothing rings a bell. I would really like to understand rather than just return it and wait or, worse, buy a new device.
Thanks.
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Let me know if you find a solution my Nexus 7 has been really slow, Im rooted with CM11 M6 & KK GAPPS, TWRP 2.7.0.0 I dont know what happened to this tablet.
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Mine too. Nexus 7 2012 16GB running PA 3.99 (JB4.3). PA Kernel and GAPPS, PA launcher or whatever one came with stock PA.
It takes upwards of 10 seconds to unlock frequently, even from a fresh boot, and without any security just a simple swipe unlock.
App drawer can take 10-15 seconds to open.
If I touch too much during these lag times I will often get a launcher not responding error.
I've about given up myself and am looking at other ROMs. Before I reflash though I may try a different kernel.
I'm downloading a few right now and I'll hopefully remember to report back my results.
Mine is suddenly unbearably slow too. It's a 2012 edition and I'm not rooted, running the stock software. I've tried clearing caches (app and system), doing a factory reset, flashing the factory image, but it just runs like a dog. When I switch it on it takes a few minutes to become responsive, and apps regularly say they will take upwards of 20 minutes to download updates - small apps too, about 3MB. The download issues are nothing to do with my wifi as the tablet is slow wherever I use it, and my Nexus 5 downloads the same things in a matter of seconds. Would love to know what I could do to fix my N7. I don't want to root it or flash a custom ROM - don't want to go down that route - I just want the great performance that I had from it before.
I was having the same issues described here as well after owning the tablet for awhile, and tried every custom ROM, kernel, and android version I could find for our device along the way, in the hopes of finding a solution.
The one thing that finally helped for me, was formatting the device to use F2FS file system format on all partitions. The initial setup is a bit tedious, as you will lose ALL data on the device, so first must back up everything, then restore it all once the device has been reformatted. But the payoff has been huge for both me and my wife.
Making this switch has made both of our tablets usable again, even enjoyable! It's well worth the effort put in to make the switch.
See this thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2678140, which has the modified recovery, files, and instructions needed to convert. It also helps to first make sure you can successfully use fastboot/ADB commands from your PC to the device, in case you get into any trouble along the way.
There's also an app now available for converting any rom to all-f2fs (prior to flashing), it's cheap and well worth the cost (about the price of a cup of coffee) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.runnerway.converttof2fs&hl=en.
This is my second Ph-1 and it is starting to freeze multiple times a day. I read the previous post regarding Nova causing these issues, I am using the stock browser and so far, so smooth. I really dislike all the "whiteness" of stock and the lack of customization.. but it is worth it for a smooth experience.
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This is my second Ph-1 and it is starting to freeze multiple times a day. I read the previous post regarding Nova causing these issues, I am using the stock browser and so far, so smooth. I really dislike all the "whiteness" of stock and the lack of customization.. but it is worth it for a smooth experience.
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Side loaded any apps?
I've experienced this issue lately. Yes I am using Nova as my daily driver. I just restarted the phone and issue went away. Hopefully it stays away. If it pops up again I'll report back.
I've had my phone for about a month now. I have had Nova loaded since day one but just recently have experienced the freezing and reboots. It is very random for sure. I may try a run without Nova if it happens much more.
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Nope, nothing sideloaded...
I am using Pixel 2 launcher for over a month and I like it.
I've had crashing on Beta 2 quite a bit with Nova. OTAing to Beta 3 reduces the crashes to once a week using Nova, which is pretty okay.
It's usually when I try to unlock the phone or am in the middle of doing something that everything just times out and reboots :s
Still on nought and have noticed bout the past week or so have had 2 freez ups. I'm using nova also. Rooted with magisk and viper and a batt mod.
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This is my second Ph-1 and it is starting to freeze multiple times a day. I read the previous post regarding Nova causing these issues, I am using the stock browser and so far, so smooth. I really dislike all the "whiteness" of stock and the lack of customization.. but it is worth it for a smooth experience.
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Wow... I've had my Ph1 for over a month, running Nova.(not rooted, don't feel the need to) .. and I've had no issues at all... I'll admit I can recall a few hiccups (nothing major) when I first received it, but after all the updates, mine is running top notch... I understand that this phone had a rough launch... and a butt load of updates... But I honestly can't complain about my experience....
Well I made it almost 8 days this time before it restarted on its own while sitting on my desk. I usually like to reboot my phones every so often but I wanted to see how long it would go this time. DARN lol!!!
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I've had crashing on Beta 2 quite a bit with Nova. OTAing to Beta 3 reduces the crashes to once a week using Nova, which is pretty okay.
It's usually when I try to unlock the phone or am in the middle of doing something that everything just times out and reboots :s
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Oreo beta 3 crashing often for me. Nova printer has been my launcher for a long time. Will try to uninstall it and run another launcher to see if that helps.
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Oreo beta 3 crashing often for me. Nova printer has been my launcher for a long time. Will try to uninstall it and run another launcher to see if that helps.
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Tried Apex launcher and pixel launcher. No real difference. Phone is difficult to unlock. Takes a long time. System UI crashed. Oreo beta 3 seems overall buggy for me.
Is there a way to troubleshoot whether or not I could be having a hardware issue as opposed to a software issue?
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Tried Apex launcher and pixel launcher. No real difference. Phone is difficult to unlock. Takes a long time. System UI crashed. Oreo beta 3 seems overall buggy for me.
Is there a way to troubleshoot whether or not I could be having a hardware issue as opposed to a software issue?
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Have you tried to factory reset and see how it acts? I have had no issues like that with OB3.
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Have you tried to factory reset and see how it acts? I have had no issues like that with OB3.
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I've seen temporary freezes, like a 1-2 second delay but they're pretty rare. Not sure what some others are labeling a freeze. Does that mean 10 seconds, a minute, they need to reboot?
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I've seen temporary freezes, like a 1-2 second delay but they're pretty rare. Not sure what some others are labeling a freeze. Does that mean 10 seconds, a minute, they need to reboot?
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I've tried a factory reset and that didn't seem to resolve the problem at all. In fact, it seems like unlocking got slower after the reset. The only things outside the box I am doing is using the Google camera app, running an app called layout to hide the navigation keys, and running an ADB command that makes the screen slightly larger by moving the top parameters of the screen up closer to the notch at the top of the phone. I guess I can do another factory reset, restore my applications, but don't install Google Camera or make any adjustments to hide navigation keys or change screen size.
I may do that, or just wait for the official release of Oreo which I hope is soon!
If anything here sounds like a hardware issue, I would appreciate your thoughts. Thank you.
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I've tried a factory reset and that didn't seem to resolve the problem at all. In fact, it seems like unlocking got slower after the reset. The only things outside the box I am doing is using the Google camera app, running an app called layout to hide the navigation keys, and running an ADB command that makes the screen slightly larger by moving the top parameters of the screen up closer to the notch at the top of the phone. I guess I can do another factory reset, restore my applications, but don't install Google Camera or make any adjustments to hide navigation keys or change screen size.
I may do that, or just wait for the official release of Oreo which I hope is soon!
If anything here sounds like a hardware issue, I would appreciate your thoughts. Thank you.
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But what kind of freezes are you getting? Is it more like brief lag or a complete freeze? If so, what's the duration?
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But what kind of freezes are you getting? Is it more like brief lag our a complete freeze? If so, what's the duration?
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For example, when the phone has been sitting a few minutes I pick it up, touch the fingerprint sensor and get no feedback. The phone seems dead. I push the power button and nothing happens. I can do this several more times and then the phone may, or may not open. When it is working smoothly, I tapped the fingerprint sensor quickly and hear the"click" sound immediately. About 50% of the time this does not happen. If I had to estimate the amount of time it freezes or lags, it is certainly in excess of 10 seconds.
Many times I am forced to hold the power button down until it reboots.
In other cases, I may be in the middle of using the phone, it will start to lag and freeze, and then automatically reboot itself.
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For example, when the phone has been sitting a few minutes I pick it up, touch the fingerprint sensor and get no feedback. The phone seems dead. I push the power button and nothing happens. I can do this several more times and then the phone may, or may not open. When it is working smoothly, I tapped the fingerprint sensor quickly and hear the"click" sound immediately. About 50% of the time this does not happen. If I had to estimate the amount of time it freezes or lags, it is certainly in excess of 10 seconds.
Many times I am forced to hold the power button down until it reboots.
In other cases, I may be in the middle of using the phone, it will start to lag and freeze, and then automatically reboot itself.
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I'm on the beta 3 release and I'm not experiencing that at all. Fingerprint unlocks in under 1 seconds almost every time. You may want to try a clean install without your other "enhancements". Personally, I'd do that just to get some stability and/or reliability. That may also save you time once the 8.1 beta drops because if you can determine that's the culprit, you'll know not to install that stuff on the next beta.
Honestly, as finicky as this phone has been for some users, I wouldn't install anything other than normal apps from the Play Store. I'm really holding off on rooting until the 8.1 beta drops so I can still get the ota as soon as it's released. Then I'll start playing with custom ROM's, etc.
I've only had this for about a week, coming from a Pixel. Flashing that phone was the worst experience of my life, looking forward to trying it here.
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I'm on the beta 3 release and I'm not experiencing that at all. Fingerprint unlocks in under 1 seconds almost every time. You may want to try a clean install without your other "enhancements". Personally, I'd do that just to get some stability and/or reliability. That may also save you time once the 8.1 beta drops because if you can determine that's the culprit, you'll know not to install that stuff on the next beta.
Honestly, as finicky as this phone has been for some users, I wouldn't install anything other than normal apps from the Play Store. I'm really holding off on rooting until the 8.1 beta drops so I can still get the ota as soon as it's released. Then I'll start playing with custom ROM's, etc.
I've only had this for about a week, coming from a Pixel. Flashing that phone was the worst experience of my life, looking forward to trying it here.
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Thanks. Good points. I'll take your advice and clean flash.
The phone is less than 6 months old, getting hard freezes. requires restart by holding power and vol down.
Happens almost everyday while watching youtube and trying to switch to any other application.
Hi all,
Sorry if this has been answered already.
I am currently running no limits on my 6t with the smurf kernel. Everything is running okay but every now and then, i'll try to unlock my phone by switching on the screen and there will just be a black screen.
I have to hold the power button and vol+ key for awhile and it will restart. It has done this 4-5 times this week.
It has not crashed whilst I am using the phone. Only when the phone's screen has been switched off or when its on charge during the night.
I am running 9.0.12 with no limits 5.1
Has anyone else come across something similar or knows what to do to fix this issue?
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks.
This is a mod issue (if I see right, you are on the magisk mod with 9.0.12 OOS, not on no limits ROM), not a phone issue, find the mod's topic and ask there. We all know these risks when we root and use any mods or custom ROMs.
Possible solution: uninstall that mod and check again.
Anyway you are killing your phone with charging overnight, it needs one and a half hour from 0 to 100% battery.
I don't run No Limits, but I did have Smurf kernel for a short while. I would have random device lock ups and it would only happen while on that kernel. Happened to me about three times before I decided to give up and go back to RenderZenith. Ever since switching back to RZ, I've had zero freezes or lock ups.
I'm not trying to bash the kernel, just sharing my experience with it in terms of the issues I had, since they seem to be similar to yours. The kernel otherwise was a beast. Extremely fast and snappy but I couldn't handle those occasional freezes.
Try removing No Limits as the user suggested before me, but the main point of my post is to try reverting to stock or another kernel as well.
Should probably do one thing at a time though, to help determine which was causing the issue.