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Hello guys,
I hope it's not a too stupid question, but do you think it's still a good time to go for a Note 4?
At this moment I have a Sony Z1 and I want to buy a new phone in december.
And for now I really like the Note 4. The only thing that is scarryng me is knox. Is the lost warrenty the only thing you lose with root and bootloader unlock?
On the Sony's you also lose features and camera is getting worse... What's about Samsung?
Also I'm interessted in AOSP's... Are they stable and support all stock features? (There are really a a lot^^ without trying it's heavy to say)
I also ask because on the Z1 there are no stable AOSP's and CM is still buggy.
If you thing it's not a good decission to go for a Note 4, would you recommend another phone?
I'm sorry for my english and also sorry if I said something wrong or stupid.^^
Thank you!
Go for it. You wont regret it, trust me. (just bought a note 4 lay week coming from a s4)
If interchangeable covers (like flip covers with clip-on battery cover), removable battery and extra micro-sd slot are things that you care about, then YES, definitely go for Note4.
If the above list is "meh" for you, then go for Note5. If the S-Pen is not something you are chasing, then S6 edge plus may be a viable option as well.
I just bought my N4 2 weeks ago and I have mixed feelings now (coming from a Z3 Compact). The little Sony is way much faster and fluid compared to Note4 (even with the 5.1.1 update). Other than this, yes, Note 4 is a good device, actually brilliant for business use (I'm actually using it to take notes during meetings).
ArmadiloDS said:
Hello guys,
I hope it's not a too stupid question, but do you think it's still a good time to go for a Note 4?
At this moment I have a Sony Z1 and I want to buy a new phone in december.
And for now I really like the Note 4. The only thing that is scarryng me is knox. Is the lost warrenty the only thing you lose with root and bootloader unlock?
On the Sony's you also lose features and camera is getting worse... What's about Samsung?
Also I'm interessted in AOSP's... Are they stable and support all stock features? (There are really a a lot^^ without trying it's heavy to say)
I also ask because on the Z1 there are no stable AOSP's and CM is still buggy.
If you thing it's not a good decission to go for a Note 4, would you recommend another phone?
I'm sorry for my english and also sorry if I said something wrong or stupid.^^
Thank you!
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Nothing is gone if you root Note 4....you'll get way better instead.
But....in my opinion, AOSP on Note series is a waste, because it's removing all it's built in features.
In the last update (5.1.1), even it's stock ROM is awesome.
All TouchWiz lag is gone, but you must flash custom permissive kernel to root it or you'll stuck in a bootloop.
But even the bootloop on stock ROM after rooting is easily fixed by re-flashing the ROM.
Remember that Samsung Galaxy Note 4 is not an ordinary phone, unlike Sony Xperia Z1.
What makes Note 4 special is its stylus.
Currently I'm using Googy Kernel + Stock 5.1.1 for my N910H + TWRP recovery + LED Cover / S-View wireless charging cover.
...and yes KNOX counter will be tripped if you root or flash custom recovery & warranty void "officially".
But some said that they can even get a replacement device even after rooted when the device is broken.
Who knows...
I hope my information helps you
EDIT:
Some say that the camera is worse in AOSP.
ArmadiloDS said:
Hello guys,
I hope it's not a too stupid question, but do you think it's still a good time to go for a Note 4?
At this moment I have a Sony Z1 and I want to buy a new phone in december.
And for now I really like the Note 4. The only thing that is scarryng me is knox. Is the lost warrenty the only thing you lose with root and bootloader unlock?
On the Sony's you also lose features and camera is getting worse... What's about Samsung?
Also I'm interessted in AOSP's... Are they stable and support all stock features? (There are really a a lot^^ without trying it's heavy to say)
I also ask because on the Z1 there are no stable AOSP's and CM is still buggy.
If you thing it's not a good decission to go for a Note 4, would you recommend another phone?
I'm sorry for my english and also sorry if I said something wrong or stupid.^^
Thank you!
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go with the Qualcomm bro, the 910f etc. get a snappy one for good CM support .
the note 4 is a beast.
Okay, THANK YOU!
Now I feel safer!
ArmadiloDS said:
Okay, THANK YOU!
Now I feel safer!
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Just an FYI, don't buy an n910a (the US ATT model). It isn't rootable due to a locked bootloader, so you be able to do any of the stuff you mentioned in the OP.
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Go for the Note 4 . 5.1.1 is smooth as hell and all the Touchwiz problems are gone ! Note 4 has the best looking display , Be it saturated AMOLED Cinema mode or the BASIC mode with perfect colour calibration . The camera is out of the world . It is very well implemented . I get 24 hours of usage with 5 hours SOT easy with HSPDA . With the Super awesome Screen , out of the world camera , swappable battery , MicroSD card it is by far the best deal .
Go for CM12.1 for Stock experience , Also I dualboot CM12.1 and stock so that I get best of both the worlds . No other phone attracts me after I bought the mighty Note 4 .
Hey fellow xda guys
Just to state i always root and install roms on my devices but for this one am somewhat consious...i have it 3 days now and already thinking on rooting...what do u guys believe on this part?should i?
Bump. Its, something ive been searching for an answer to myself. Is there any noticeable increase in performance or functionality with the use of custom roms or kernels. I understand that xposed would play a great part in making this decision, but for someone who is not a very die hard user of the xposed framework, being as its a good enough phone without root, would you recommend rooting based on the custom roms and kernels available?
Well I have always rooted phones right back from the early days of my HTC HD1. Last year though I rooted my Galaxy S6 which tripped the Knox counter. Many people say Samsung will repair your phone in the UK but I can tell you thats not the case. My phone developed a fault and I spent 4 months in discussions with them and they would not budge. Threw all sorts of consumer laws at them with no joy. So if your happy tripping knox with the risk of down the road needing a repair then go for it. But I would suggest unless you really do need a specifice Root app then I wouldnt bother. With my GS7 Edge battery lasts comfortably all day so no need for root apps to extend battery and I have to admit the phone absolutely flies. But ultimately its down to you. Also if you use android pay or samsung pay or sky go or barclaycard app then root will prevent use of these. As I say though each to their own.
I would also like some more feedback on whether to root or not. This is my first time not rooting a phone out of the box.
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Stock here. Runs fantastic which is not always the case with rooted ones when you read the forum. Little glitch with eBay yesterday was the only issue I had to date.
I didnt find rooting my s7 edge exynos helped my battery to last longer.. the only thing i found helpful is the soundmod because of low quality audio..
It all depends on how you use your phone.
I always root my Android.
Just bought S7 Edge yesterday and root it the night I got it.
I never have problem with warranty here, with rooted device, they never check it.
So the drawback only Knox and Samsung Pay. Which I don't use anyway.
The advantages is a lot : XPosed, Custom Rom, Mods, etc..
jimmod said:
I always root my Android.
Just bought S7 Edge yesterday and root it the night I got it.
I never have problem with warranty here, with rooted device, they never check it.
So the drawback only Knox and Samsung Pay. Which I don't use anyway.
The advantages is a lot : XPosed, Custom Rom, Mods, etc..
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Where are you from?
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I really want to root but I use samsung pay all day long and even if it somehow was made to work with root having it would be unsecured and I dont know if I would want to link my atm and credit cards to it then
hadec said:
Hey fellow xda guys
Just to state i always root and install roms on my devices but for this one am somewhat consious...i have it 3 days now and already thinking on rooting...what do u guys believe on this part?should i?
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i rooted for audio mods. i noticed using xposed uses more battery but root is fine no drain.
I rooted for Greenify, ViperAudio & tweaking some Ui sounds but I'm a bit bummed that I can't use the Pay service here in NZ anymore.
Never had a problem with 6 years of Galaxy phones so I don't care to much for Warranty.
chinhe said:
I didnt find rooting my s7 edge exynos helped my battery to last longer.. the only thing i found helpful is the soundmod because of low quality audio..
It all depends on how you use your phone.
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Reading through this, just felt the need to jump on this one (sorry XD) - 'low quality audio'? This phone has very very good quality audio. Are you referring to the output volume? Because the *quality* is very good XD
tmorterlaing said:
Reading through this, just felt the need to jump on this one (sorry XD) - 'low quality audio'? This phone has very very good quality audio. Are you referring to the output volume? Because the *quality* is very good XD
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Yes, i meant the low output of the volume especially when using the headset. I had to root and install mods.
chinhe said:
Yes, i meant the low output of the volume especially when using the headset. I had to root and install mods.
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It's plenty loud enough for me, would like to keep my hearing intact.
Out of interest though, how can you increase volume by rooting? Surely the limitations are hardware related, namely the internal headphone amplifier no?
chinhe said:
Yes, i meant the low output of the volume especially when using the headset. I had to root and install mods.
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Ah, in which case apologies for my pedantry! Out of interest, which mod did you install and are you satisfied?
drummerman said:
It's plenty loud enough for me, would like to keep my hearing intact.
Out of interest though, how can you increase volume by rooting? Surely the limitations are hardware related, namely the internal headphone amplifier no?
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You're right, but its sort of like the iso in a camera - it artificially boosts it, usually with the tradeoff of sound quality. With only a small boost the quality loss is probably too minimal to hear though, especially if coupled with a few EQ tweaks to try and lessen the effects.
drummerman said:
It's plenty loud enough for me, would like to keep my hearing intact.
Out of interest though, how can you increase volume by rooting? Surely the limitations are hardware related, namely the internal headphone amplifier no?
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With the OEM headset the volume output is too low for me, incall volume and music especially when im on the subway.
Volumeboost, dolby, viper. It all solved my problem.
chinhe said:
With the OEM headset the volume output is too low for me, incall volume and music especially when im on the subway.
Volumeboost, dolby, viper. It all solved my problem.
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The oem headset is pants imho, no offense meant.
I am a self confessed 'audiophile' and use Grado and Sennheiser h/phones with the s7e.
My issue with algorithm 'volume boosters' (as opposed to hardware) is that they almost certainly increase distortion and clipping.
chinhe said:
With the OEM headset the volume output is too low for me, incall volume and music especially when im on the subway.
Volumeboost, dolby, viper. It all solved my problem.
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drummerman said:
The oem headset is pants imho, no offense meant.
I am a self confessed 'audiophile' and use Grado and Sennheiser h/phones with the s7e.
My issue with algorithm 'volume boosters' (as opposed to hardware) is that they almost certainly increase distortion and clipping.
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I have the 64 Audio U12s - and have similar issues. The audio quality IS good on this phone though. Ill let you know how I get on with algorithm boosters this week.
Well i always root my phones on the first week but i just bought the s7 edge two weeks ago..i see that people have screen issues after first month or two so im afraid to trip knox right now..im confused..i dont care about warranty until this phone..but somthing is stopping me..what do you say should i root it and hope for the bedt or wait a month or two before rooting the device?
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I always like to root my android devices however jailbreaking/root is not always required for full customization on the phone (unlike on ios) It always comes down to personal preference, what were some things that made you want to root?
I spent a couple days testing out different equalizers as I wasn't satisfied with the built in one and spoiled by viper.
This is the best one I've found and I thought I'd share.
Equalizer and Bass Booster
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=music.bassbooster.equalizer
Music player of choice: black player, poweramp, stellio(best ui IMO)
Side note: Check out the Veva s220 headphones for better sound than beats and heavier bass!! They are cheap and the battery lasts longer than any Bluetooth headphones over ever had. Bose, Beats and others I've owned over the years don't come close. They're on Amazon.com.
Thanks for sharing! I'm rooted right now rocking Viper but very well may flash back to stock again soon. Gonna need something like this LOL
DanRyb said:
Thanks for sharing! I'm rooted right now rocking Viper but very well may flash back to stock again soon. Gonna need something like this LOL
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Rooted on Note7 or something else. Viper is literally the ONLY reason rooting matters to me.... I would kill for a non root fix.
I tried this and it is like the others for me. There just doesn't seem to be a replacement for Viper. All these EQ's do the same thing for me. If you turn up the base for example, it muffles or turns down the treble. It is like it is robbing from one to give to the other instead of just turning up the band you are trying to adjust.
Thanks for sharing though, the UI is nice and simple.
I just downloaded Poweramp Pro again and used it to play some saved music. Its EQ works like Viper and doesn't suffer from the same issue I talked about above. It will be great for saved music but I listen to a lot of streamed music from Google Play Music and some Pandora.
chipworkz said:
I tried this and it is like the others for me. There just doesn't seem to be a replacement for Viper. All these EQ's do the same thing for me. If you turn up the base for example, it muffles or turns down the treble. It is like it is robbing from one to give to the other instead of just turning up the band you are trying to adjust.
Thanks for sharing though, the UI is nice and simple.
I just downloaded Poweramp Pro again and used it to play some saved music. Its EQ works like Viper and doesn't suffer from the same issue I talked about above. It will be great for saved music but I listen to a lot of streamed music from Google Play Music and some Pandora.
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What's up @chipworkz.. last seen OK on the n5.
Hope life has been treating you well.
I agree after using my n7, viper is truly a need for this phone. And the play sound from the earpiece mod that @SashhaFranko made. I am hoping a more stable method of root is achieved, seems buggy for now. Check ya later.
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jstodda said:
Rooted on Note7 or something else. Viper is literally the ONLY reason rooting matters to me.... I would kill for a non root fix.
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Rooted on Note 7. Using the leaked Sprint firmware. It's not that bad really. No WiFi Calling or VoLTE (can live without personally). And of course no Samsung Pay or Android Pay. Everything else seems pretty decent thus far.
DanRyb said:
Rooted on Note 7. Using the leaked Sprint firmware. It's not that bad really. No WiFi Calling or VoLTE (can live without personally). And of course no Samsung Pay or Android Pay. Everything else seems pretty decent thus far.
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Do you have to do any modifications to keep the phone running smooth? Like the S7 edge. Phone would get locked into a bootloop every week or 2
KJThaDon said:
Do you have to do any modifications to keep the phone running smooth? Like the S7 edge. Phone would get locked into a bootloop every week or 2
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Hard to say. Only been running that leaked firmware since Saturday night but it's been pretty stable/smooth for me thus far. I never had an S7 or S7 Edge but from what I'm reading this leak/root is better than what they were facing.
First let me say there is currently no replacement for Viper for non root devices. Nothing comes close. It's the only reason I've rooted after the Note 2. Would be great if Google purchased them and applied Viper directly to Android.
I prefer a EQ app that can be used for ALL sound sources that can be played by Android. To that end, I've used Equalizer for those times when I couldn't install Viper.
Im using the alpha version of poweramp with 24 bit enabled sounds like viper too when activated
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dkb218 said:
First let me say there is currently no replacement for Viper for non root devices. Nothing comes close. It's the only reason I've rooted after the Note 2. Would be great if Google purchased them and applied Viper directly to Android.
I prefer a EQ app that can be used for ALL sound sources that can be played by Android. To that end, I've used Equalizer for those times when I couldn't install Viper.
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That app just uses the built in eq, adding some presets to it. Unfortunately there is no replacement for Viper.
DanRyb said:
Hard to say. Only been running that leaked firmware since Saturday night but it's been pretty stable/smooth for me thus far. I never had an S7 or S7 Edge but from what I'm reading this leak/root is better than what they were facing.
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Sorry to be off-topic but quick question. Can you root to do modification to the system (edit host file for ad-blocking, edit CSC to enable features, edit media folder to delete tmobile boot and samsung smileys) then unroot and keep Samsung Pay and volte wifi calling etc?
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Sorry to be off-topic but quick question. Can you root to do modification to the system (edit host file for ad-blocking, edit CSC to enable features, edit media folder to delete tmobile boot and samsung smileys) then unroot and keep Samsung Pay and volte wifi calling etc?
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No, not a chance.
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This is a very unusual post for me but here we go:
I've been rooting, installing custom ROM's etc for about 6/7 years now, no phone has been saved from the rooting process but after the G4 plus I had failed I'm err'ing on the side of caution and after some questions answering with as definite an answer as possible to back up my own research:
I'm looking to install a LOS based rom (always been on CAM/LOS) and I'm wondering:
1, I use the NFC on this phone, does android pay work on an unlocked bootloader and a custom ROM?
2, What is the camera quality looking like on the custom ROM's?
3, I've briefly looked into the magisk thing in regards to banking apps etc, anyone had any joy getting them working?
4, finally, all Bluetooth working ok? I have the Moto 360 so need to ensure this works too.
Thanks in advance, like I said it's a rather unusual post for me but I just wanted to get some answers
Cheers guys and girls
Honestly I haven't even had the need to mess with the software on this thing yet. I'm getting insane battery life and great performance. Now later on the year I might go the custom ROM route but for right now it's pretty damn good stock. Very few things I miss from having root/ROM now
I'm at the same point to be fair, it's like an itch that needs scratching lol. Just missing the themes really more than anything.
Thank you for taking the time to reply
Bettry life and performance in stock rom is great and rom is near stock with some useful enhancement so i think atleast for me there is no need to install any custom rom.Battery life is insane in stock rom and you will not face any kind of issue in stock rom
My pixel and g5+ remain unrooted. I was in the same boat for previous phones (and tablets) and rooting them. At this point, I would have to struggle to think of a reason to root.
Priezti said:
This is a very unusual post for me but here we go:
I've been rooting, installing custom ROM's etc for about 6/7 years now, no phone has been saved from the rooting process but after the G4 plus I had failed I'm err'ing on the side of caution and after some questions answering with as definite an answer as possible to back up my own research:
I'm looking to install a LOS based rom (always been on CAM/LOS) and I'm wondering:
1, I use the NFC on this phone, does android pay work on an unlocked bootloader and a custom ROM?
2, What is the camera quality looking like on the custom ROM's?
3, I've briefly looked into the magisk thing in regards to banking apps etc, anyone had any joy getting them working?
4, finally, all Bluetooth working ok? I have the Moto 360 so need to ensure this works too.
Thanks in advance, like I said it's a rather unusual post for me but I just wanted to get some answers
Cheers guys and girls
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Most of the custom roms do not comes with root now a days sl
Android pay should work if you dont root
If you use camera a lot than you will not be satisfied with camera in custom roms
Bluetooth works fine
Again banking apps will not work if you root...
I tried pretty much every custom rom available for this phone. The camera on all of them is a bit iffy. Mostly trouble focusing (especially manual focus and macro shots). After manual focus, sometimes the camera will crash. This is the case for most roms.
I did have some bluetooth issues too. The phone connected to the car without any problems, but I couldn't make any phone calls. It wouldn't connect to the dialer to actually place the call.
I went back to the stock rom: rooted, Pixel launcher as system app so I have Google Now cards and flashed the mod that corrects the aggressive sharpening of pictures. Couldn't be happier. Really excellent phone.
Just an update for anyone in the same predicament.
I took the plunge as the itch got the better of me. I went for the AOSPExtended ROM. Here is some feedback thus far:
Camera: tried the stock camera and the google one. Autofocus is pretty much crap as reported. It's OK sometimes and not the next. Not had chance to try too many shots to be fair so can't give a comment on quality.
Bluetooth for android wear and connecting to a phone kit seems fine, I've not made any calls via the handsfree kit however.
Performance and battery seem OK. Nothing to really report there.
I have root via magisk and the magisk hide let's me use Android pay, Netflix and my banking app. They all previously picked up on the unlocked bootloader.
On the whole its not bad at all. Camera is a bit annoying however I'm sure it will be sorted soon. Verdict is out on if it i s worth the hassle or not yet.
Hi,
Recently I bought Samsung phone with ONE UI 1.1 and was shocked when I found out it lacks my favourite "Tube Amp Pro" sound effect. I was using it many years across all my Galaxys, but now its gone. BTW, I hate Dolby Amos! I hate It!!! Please, if someone could help me bring it back or install old Sound Alive apk without root I would appreciate it. Thanks.
P.S. Do you guys also miss it?
I recently switched from A Note 9 to an S10e and was shocked to find that the double press home button shortcut on the Gear S3 did not have the TIMER as a choice option, or it did on the Note 9.
I contacted Samsung and was told that options are different based on phone model.
WTF!
Ernas LTU said:
Hi,
Recently I bought Samsung phone with ONE UI 1.1 and was shocked when I found out it lacks my favourite "Tube Amp Pro" sound effect. I was using it many years across all my Galaxys, but now its gone. BTW, I hate Dolby Amos! I hate It!!! Please, if someone could help me bring it back or install old Sound Alive apk without root I would appreciate it. Thanks.
P.S. Do you guys also miss it?
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I am facing the same issue with my Galaxy m51. It is shocking that Samsung team is neglecting the audio department. Without the Tube Amp Pro, sound through headphones are lacking deep bass. Sound coming through headphones makes me feel like listening to some cheap chinese phone. Also the Dolby Atmos is not much helpful.