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hi!
So I can upgrade to Note 3 for about $150 and would like to know, how the experience has been for you guys.
Coming from Rom and kernel flashing addiction I might feel a bit trapped with note 3 but then again, with so much power, OCing may not be as exciting as it was on Note 2 to run MAME reloaded for example or some higher end games.
Thanks for any comments.
Regards
I had note 2 and now note 3. Used to run clean rom on note 2 and loved it. After upgraded to note 3, I realized that I don't need any custom rom or kernel on this phone. It's perfect with just rooted, debloated and wanam exposed. Everything I want the phone to be and very happy with it.
That being said, I still do miss flashing custom rom though. Hope near future, we can get unlocked bootloader
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Only thing I miss is playing around with OC'ing. Not really necessary on the 3. Really was not necessary on the 2 either.
Non of the ROM's could compare to the stock debloated ROM on the note 2 for battery life (they were close), and I would expect similar results if we were to get the boot loader unlocked. The difference was small so the features/benefits of a custom ROM far outweighed staying stock.
With root and xposed modules on the note 3, don't see the need to flash a custom ROM. A custom kernel would be nice though that would allow Playing with clock speeds and the like.
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I agree with what everyone said. I remember you from the Note 2 threads, and I know you were in the kernel threads quite a bit helping people out and maxing out your Note 2, lol.
I honestly don't see any lag whatsoever with rooting, debloating, and using wanam exposed like the guys above mentioned. I never even used xposed installer or wanam until I got the note 3. I'm actually surprised I never tried it on the Note 2. It's very useful. I guess I never had to considering I was always flashing roms and themes that took care of the customizations.
$150 is worth the upgrade in my honest opinion. I'm sure somewhere somehow a bootloader unlock is around the corner in some computer genius's lair, lol. Despite that, you won't be disappointed with the stock. I use Nova Launcher and customized my DPI with xposed and rom toolbox lite. Really makes everything look great to me. Everything works just like on my Note 2, even flash. Just make a titanium backup of your Note 2 for your apps and make sure that folder is on your sdcard, then transfer that folder to your sdcard and your phone memory, and you're good to restore. Unless you prefer starting fresh, up to you. I restored my Nova launcher preferences with the apps quite easily to keep the same look. So it wasn't a big change for me visually except a much crisper screen. The camera is amazing. I've taken 4K video and it's just great. Battery life is solid too despite being stock. It also is lighter than the Note 2 so that's a plus as well.
Thanks all guys. I am close to pulling the trigger now. It was not in my mind because my biggest wish was a 6" screen but for $150, it is more tempting now
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Thanks all guys. I am close to pulling the trigger now. It was not in my mind because my biggest wish was a 6" screen but for $150, it is more tempting now
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As long as you can root it (I found the MI9 de la vega files archived on other sites), I find the N3 much superior to the N2. Better screen (much better outdoors), better in-hand feel, better S-view cover and back material, and about the same battery life (though that's a custom ROM N2 vs. stock ROM N3).
For me, rooting is needed to lower the dpi to an appropriate value as the stock 480 wastes so much of the screen. If I had to pick between a customized N2 and a totally stock N3, that'd be a harder decision for me.
One other oddity I've found is that many of the videos that played fine on HW decoding on my Note 2 require SW decoding on the Note 3 (mostly for sound, but sometimes for video as well). Not a big deal as the quality is the same and the Note 3 has power to spare, but just a bit odd.
The occasional security prevention message is annoying, but it's easy enough to long press, clear data, and have it disappear for a while. Generally comes back after a reboot and I have to do the above again.
Like mutantblack, I use to have note 2 with Clean Rom. Never needed a rom but Clean Rom was simply awesome. It saved me a lot of time debloating. Now with note 3, root+wanam+xposed is like Clean Rom all over again.
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As long as you can root it (I found the MI9 de la vega files archived on other sites), I find the N3 much superior to the N2. Better screen (much better outdoors), better in-hand feel, better S-view cover and back material, and about the same battery life (though that's a custom ROM N2 vs. stock ROM N3).
For me, rooting is needed to lower the dpi to an appropriate value as the stock 480 wastes so much of the screen. If I had to pick between a customized N2 and a totally stock N3, that'd be a harder decision for me.
One other oddity I've found is that many of the videos that played fine on HW decoding on my Note 2 require SW decoding on the Note 3 (mostly for sound, but sometimes for video as well). Not a big deal as the quality is the same and the Note 3 has power to spare, but just a bit odd.
The occasional security prevention message is annoying, but it's easy enough to long press, clear data, and have it disappear for a while. Generally comes back after a reboot and I have to do the above again.
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Hey man I'm gonna take it from your post your rooted...Just download root app delete from the play store...Open it up...Go into system apps...and disable all 4 Knox apps...Once they're disabled those messages will dissappear...
As to the op...I still have my att note 2 and now have att note 3...The biggest improvements for me are the camera, which is so much better than note 2 in terms of clarity, speed, and color reproduction it's amazing...2nd is the s pen finally has the precision and feel of true writing...lastly is the experience of tw; on note 2 I found I needed apex launcher and many rooted customizations to make the note 2 perform how I felt it should given its already great hardware. With note 3 I still run apex occasionally but love the improved tw experience, lag free, fast, and clean on note 3
What I miss of note 2, the battery life. The batter life on my Note 2 was astounding. With note 3 I find I only get about 3 to 4 hours of on screen time vs 5 to 5.5 hours on note 2. But this can be remedied with another backup batter and for all the note 3 offers in terms of speed, gorgeous 1080 screen, and features galore it's an easy tradeoff.
So summing up, note 2 was a major bump over note 1, but note 3 set a new standard in my eyes for what a super phone is. Note 3 hands down...and in time I feel well have some form of cwm and romming but maybe not at the level of note 2, though as others have mentioned it's really not necessary anymore. Samsung hit it outta the park with note 3.
Mega
Remember you can always buy a T-mobie note 3 and run it on ATT AMD then you can still flash your Roms and kernels. You could get your ATT upgrade then sell that for a T-Mobile device, that's what I did.
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The stock rom runs better than a few custom roms,.... However we do not have custom kernels nor can we flash different ROM due to the boot loader being locked. In my opinion the phone is a lot snappier smooth here and the screen is a helluva lot better. Remote control features amazin and the battery is even better than my note 2. However route is a must and either the leading or freezing the extra bloatware is necessary to achieve such performance
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I had note 2 and now note 3. Used to run clean rom on note 2 and loved it. After upgraded to note 3, I realized that I don't need any custom rom or kernel on this phone. It's perfect with just rooted, debloated and wanam exposed. Everything I want the phone to be and very happy with it.
That being said, I still do miss flashing custom rom though. Hope near future, we can get unlocked bootloader
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Yes yes and yes agreed with that I upgraded and paided for the full 750 I know I know lol but I think it was worth it here's a couple of more things to Note
1. The screen is drop dead gorgeous!! Omfg I love this screen!!
2.Its faster "duh"
3.The camrea is very good too!! Love the camera )
4. Same battery life "CANT WAIT for ZeroLemon and case!!
Its up to you but yes I think its worth enough
As a former note2 owner who bought the note3 on release day, I think it boils down to how important flashing custom roms is to you. I have my note3 rooted and really debloated and it is running awesome. And I thought that would be good enough for me. But last week I bought an LGG2 so that I could continue flashing and tweaking stuff. Even though this phone is the perfect hardware I am really irritated that I am not allowed to choose what software to run on it. So tomorrow when the g2 arrives this phone will probably go into a desk drawer or to one of my kids until someone can resolve the custom recovery issue.
But this is a hobby for me. Im the guy who installs whatever the latest distro of Linux came out this month and I rarely have a machine running the same distro longer than 90 days. ..so im kind of a freak like that.
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How did you get the 150 upgrade offer?
Sorry it was not an offer, I was calculating selling mine and getting a used note 3.
Note 2 with cm 11 kit kat was awsome. Daughter broke phone and insurance sent the 3. Sucks with locked bootloader.
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With Xposed, Wanam, Safe Strap, Apex or other decent launcher and a Kit Kat theme or two there REALLY isnt a need for custom roms. The Note 3 can have pretty much any system mod and tweak any rom would bring and you wont lose the IR Blaster support thats built in and Safe Strap allows you the capability to backup the current state before tweaking.
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I ended up going a different way after all as you can see on my sig. Maybe Note 4 but I am getting so used to the huge Xperia Z Ultra that not sure anymore.
My SM-N910F arrives tomorrow. I guess ios the Qualcomm device, I live in Italy.
Some advice please
1. Many experience worse battery usage with lollipop and advice not to upgrade from kk4.4.4., is it still so? For me battery drain is a problem, my Note 3 last half day, because of very heavy usage (8 email accounts, 6 messenger programs, many calls, many whatsapp/viber call messages, and so on)
2. Rooting. My only wish is to use GMD Gesture (or similar) in order to use device with one hand. Is rooting obligatory, or there is another program, or? If obligatory, is it possible NOT to trip knox?
3. I never liked touchwiz and always put Nova Launcher in my previous samsung (S3, Note 2, Note 3. Is it still the same?
4. other advices?
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My SM-N910F arrives tomorrow. I guess ios the Qualcomm device, I live in Italy.
Some advice please
1. Many experience worse battery usage with lollipop and advice not to upgrade from kk4.4.4., is it still so? For me battery drain is a problem, my Note 3 last half day, because of very heavy usage (8 email accounts, 6 messenger programs, many calls, many whatsapp/viber call messages, and so on)
2. Rooting. My only wish is to use GMD Gesture (or similar) in order to use device with one hand. Is rooting obligatory, or there is another program, or? If obligatory, is it possible NOT to trip knox?
3. I never liked touchwiz and always put Nova Launcher in my previous samsung (S3, Note 2, Note 3. Is it still the same?
4. other advices?
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hi ,
ok, this is my "take " on the n Note 4 N910F ................
I have a Note 4 N910F ,rooted ( since October 2014 , hours after i got phone and on Android v4.4.4)
I am now on Lollipop BOC5 ,with custom recovery CWM and stock ROM .( i have also been on previous/ earlier Lollipop versions ...BOB4 and BOC3 ) I am a meduim user .
So, I think i can give an opinion about how i experience/find Lollipop ???
My battery life has always been good ,across all versions from Android v4.4.4 up to now .My device is running very smooth and have no lag ..apart from recent button and one other small "bug " ..thats it .I have taken note of members complaining about poor battery life and this is very strange to me.
Yes, i have had odd battery drain ,but managed to id "culprit/culprits " " and its always been an 3rd party app that was badly behaving or an setting ( location ...etc ..)...maybe i am lucky ?.....NO .
I also have an Note 3 ,rooted ,stock Rom etc ..No problems, battery been good, running smooth .. etc etc I also have a Note 2 ,rooted ,No problems ...........................................
I would say your battery usage, should be the same as your Note 3...( my take )
as this is what i experience between my Note3 and Note 4 .
2.....Rooting, i rooted from day one with Chainfire CF autoroot and still up to Lollipop .I am personally not obsessed/care " about Knox .I don't need Knox and use a Nortons antivirus on my phone ..been for years and happy with it ..I do however respect members viewpoints ,that do worry or care about Knox.
I also use GMD gesture on LollIpop. ( and joined the app beta testing program )
Its is still a little " buggy " here and there ,but works mostly fine for me !
3.I have Nova Prime on all my phones and don't use Touchwiz...No problems .
4. Surely ,if you encounter an issues , you should be able to short it out .....?
Bottom line ..its your device enjoy it .
Good luck
Other advice is not to root the phone before you are 100% sure all hardware works flawless.
It would be a shame sending a faulty device in for repair for something that could have easily been avoided by proper testing, then have your warranty rejected because you rooted it.
And of course when you root, make proper back-ups.
Also getting a screen protector and a nice cover should be recommend.
I'm using the Samsung S-View*flipcover and enjoy it a lot.
Kind regards, Stefan.
I agree with ThaEvilOne, make sure you test the phone for the first few days first before you root. I never rooted mine, just disabled some Bloatwiz, and I get great battery life. In fact we have two N910C in the family and both last a day.
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I agree with ThaEvilOne, make sure you test the phone for the first few days first before you root. I never rooted mine, just disabled some Bloatwiz, and I get great battery life. In fact we have two N910C in the family and both last a day.
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thanks, but you should see GMD gestures what does to your phone, is an amazing program.
I agree will need to check is 100% working before rooting
BTW I bought it from Amazon warehouse delas, and saved 100 Euro, I hope nothing is faulty with it
To all.
How to check that is 100% working, beside using it a lot. There is maybe some downloadable app that checks that all the phone is fine?
The phone is perfect but KNOX counter is 0x1, the bastard using Amazon warranty gave it back like this (I bought from Amazon warehouse deals).
I paid for it 525 EUro.
Suggestions?
New it costs 570 Euro, maybe waiting some weeks usually you can find it for 530 Euro (NEW).
ALthough I was thinking to root it so ......
hello dear xda community!
it has been a while since i was last here.
i owned a gs2 but made the move to ios with iphone 5 and currently use iphone 6.
I am considering buying note 4 (c variant with exynos)!mostly for the great screen ,battery life and not overheating( almost all other androids can cook your hand)
i lurked around here to do some digging and i keep seeing members having big problems with battery drains, overheating and slow down...( i will be skipping on note 5 as it will not come to europe and mostly because of no removable battery-micro sd)
have i missed something? is the big res scree bogging down the phone?
owning an iphone, performance is a given for me.
Please share your honest views since you own the device and help me make the move!
got sick of same damn thing and restrictions (ios)
My best advice to you would be stick with iOS. I own Note 4. Previously owned lots of flagship android phones and before that iPhone 3GS, 4S and 5S. I will shift to 6S when it will be available in my country because I am tired of bloated SW solutions from big firms and sick of flashing custom roms that almost never match the performanco of camera with stock. iOS is still the best SW you can get and I will stick with it for a while.
Regarding android IMHO Note 4 is the best you can hope taking other 2015 flahships in mind that are not worth the upgrade specialy with SD 810, no microSD and non-replacable battery that is getting smaller and smaller despite constant *****ing about it's insufficiencuy. With latest 5.1.1 it is realy fast, takes great pictures and battery life is awsome. I have no problems with it and till now it is as close to iOS experience as it gets.
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My best advice to you would be stick with iOS. I own Note 4. Previously owned lots of flagship android phones and before that iPhone 3GS, 4S and 5S. I will shift to 6S when it will be available in my country because I am tired of bloated SW solutions from big firms and sick of flashing custom roms that almost never match the performanco of camera with stock. iOS is still the best SW you can get and I will stick with it for a while.
Regarding android IMHO Note 4 is the best you can hope taking other 2015 flahships in mind that are not worth the upgrade specialy with SD 810, no microSD and non-replacable battery that is getting smaller and smaller despite constant *****ing about it's insufficiencuy. With latest 5.1.1 it is realy fast, takes great pictures and battery life is awsome. I have no problems with it and till now it is as close to iOS experience as it gets.
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For the OP!
Stick whit IOS my friend ....
My 910f is realy awsome whit 5.1.1, no overheat, no lag and superb battery, but ios much much better in stabiliti and before android 5.1.1 it has better performance.
you see, the thing is..what made me consider moving was the hideous battery life (iphone battery is epic bad-like..bards would sing of its loussiness).
and couple more every day stuff that really halt your schedule( try attaching two different file types-say 1 xls+1pdf on same mail in ios)
i guess i was hoping that it would be better with note 4, but from what you guys say it lacks stability on a very profound level..
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you see, the thing is..what made me consider moving was the hideous battery life (iphone battery is epic bad-like..bards would sing of its loussiness).
and couple more every day stuff that really halt your schedule( try attaching two different file types-say 1 xls+1pdf on same mail in ios)
i guess i was hoping that it would be better with note 4, but from what you guys say it lacks stability on a very profound level..
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hi ,
i guess there always 2 sides to a story . ?
I have a Note2 , Note3, and ... Note4 ( ........cannot say anything much, about Note5 ..!!)
All my devices battery ( removable ) life is good/acceptable , no overheating , smooth running and customized to my liking !!!!!! This is what i want and enjoying it .!!
I do not own a Iphone and thus cannot say much about it .!!
(Yes ,i have "played around " a few times ,with a Iphone in the phone shops and know its overall feel and workings )
Everytime i just put it down and say no i am happy with my Note4 .
All i can say is , in the end it is "what you want from your device...its you choice ."
So is it an an option ..... to have/own both ?
i want freedom of choice, ( customize etc ) and cannot see myself been tied down .
My message is only ,there nothing "wrong " with Note4
Hardware ,specs , removable battery and to do real multitasking on a device ? ...etc
Also i am on Android v 5.1.1 and device working very, very smooth .No issues .
However i have noticed some forum members have /had certain issues
good luck with your choice .
post entry
my observation of reading post and " my opinion" ,
regarding battery drainage in Note 4 is that a some members have either
3rd party apps or wrong settings or some" mod/theme " on phone responsible for this ( yes, i know not always ) eg facebook, whatsapp , gps location enable ,data always on ,etc... in some setting etc ( battery drainers ) or just badly coded apps or games .sucking away on battery.I had Note4 since October 2014 and had odd battery drain and always ( when investigating ) found 3rd party app or mod eg Xposed framework or module etc responsible for this .
Bottom line ,
is you only read mostly in threads, when members have a "problem " and hardly read post of members that is happy with performance/etc of device ?
good..this is what i want to hear..opinions based on real owner experiences!
just one more question!
is it true that since knox , i cannot root the device without it being permanently recorded? i mean, i remember being to erase such things on gs2 with stuff like triangle away app.. i dont care for flashing roms, rather than using my paid titanium app, adaway,root explorer and be able to freeze bloatware.
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good..this is what i want to hear..opinions based on real owner experiences!
just one more question!
is it true that since knox , i cannot root the device without it being permanently recorded? i mean, i remember being to erase such things on gs2 with stuff like triangle away app.. i dont care for flashing roms, rather than using my paid titanium app, adaway,root explorer and be able to freeze bloatware.
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hi,
yes, thats overall true eg. if you use dev @ chainfire CF auto root it will trip Knox.(this CF auto root method, is what i used overall. except in Android v5.1.1 it does not work so i used another method ) However you do get certain root
methods that won't trip Knox.
Don't ask me what method as i really was never interested in rooting this way.
My personal opinion of Knox is.. i see it as a "bogey man" it does not worry me as i got no interest in Knox features. .. or the attitude... "o what is Samsung warranty going to say.?"
That said...
I do however respect other members view on Knox.!
I wanted to enjoy my user experience and rooted my device way back in October 2014... never looked back.
My viewpoint is,
If something "happens" well then it "happens" an i will deal with it accordingly or get another device.
I just wanted you to get my viewpoint over, that overall Note4 is a very, very capable device..good at multi tasking, good battery use (overall) no overheating issues and very smooth and fast (just tweak right)
Good luck with your choice
to be honest as long as it works and battery performs , i am happy camper..i am familiar with androids plus and minuses..
I wouldn't get it now. On its stock rom the dpi is way too high, everything is so big on the screen and there is no added real estate from a phone such as the S6. As for performance I've never been happy (N910F) until 5.1, but on 5.1 I can't use per app dpi. Do not throw your money at Samsung, opt for a Moto (or even the new Sony Z5 series), they're much more consistent performers. You could even wait for the new Nexus 5 or 6 coming out next month which will have biometric sensors. The one on the Note 4 sucks haha.
If you want to use the Samsung apps then stay with Touchwiz and root it, I would currently recommend using this ROM
I know you said that you are not into flashing ROMs but I would recommend that you give CM a chance or if you want extra personalization then try other custom roms.
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If you want to use the Samsung apps then stay with Touchwiz and root it, I would currently recommend using this ROM
I know you said that you are not into flashing ROMs but I would recommend that you give CM a chance or if you want extra personalization then try other custom roms.
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i'd have no problem with flashing but custom roms never really get the camera app right or work well with ril files etc..
CM is very far from my taste although it has a sink ful of features.
i am almost set with giving up the iphone 6 for note 4.
just gonna wait till ios 9 gets previewed on wensday.
cant wait for a note 4 like battery, coming from i6.
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i'd have no problem with flashing but custom roms never really get the camera app right or work well with ril files etc..
CM is very far from my taste although it has a sink ful of features.
i am almost set with giving up the iphone 6 for note 4.
just gonna wait till ios 9 gets previewed on wensday.
cant wait for a note 4 like battery, coming from i6.
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I was not really happy with my Note 4 N910C until 5.1.1 came around.
More happy when I installed a stock pre-rooted ROM from Wanam and ultimate kernel then installed Note 5 theme and multi dpi for app.
My phone is very fast now, great battery too!
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I was not really happy with my Note 4 N910C until 5.1.1 came around.
More happy when I installed a stock pre-rooted ROM from Wanam and ultimate kernel then installed Note 5 theme and multi dpi for app.
My phone is very fast now, great battery too!
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that i could do!!
without the changed kernel..no matter how good, once tinkered there always is a bug hiding..would the stock pre-rooted triger the knox counter?
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that i could do!!
without the changed kernel..no matter how good, once tinkered there always is a bug hiding..would the stock pre-rooted triger the knox counter?
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sadly yes.. But I don't care about warranty though, I trigger knox first day I bought my note 4.. Its just me, dunno bout you
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sadly yes.. But I don't care about warranty though, I trigger knox first day I bought my note 4.. Its just me, dunno bout you
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temptation of adaway and titanium backup etc are too great to pass..will see! lets hipe ios9 wont change my mind ?
Wanna trade your iPhone for my note 4 haha it's snaodragon but it's as new always used with a protective case! Haha.
Im thinking about going to iOs
Hey all,
It's been a while since I left the Samsung flock and went back to Sony but this years new Xperia Line just isn't doing it for me and the S7 Edge has really grabbed me. I'm getting it in a few weeks and the amount of info to take on is staggering. I have figured out that the UK model is a differnet chip but similar enough in performance.
I didn't bother rooting my Xperias as it broke the camera, but coming back to Samsung I'm not sure I can deal with Touchwiz again. I rooted my S2 and S3 in almost no time and installed stock or Cyanogen most of the time. My recollections of touchwiz are not great, and Sony ran pretty close to Stock/Vanilla.
So my questions:
Is touchwiz any better now?
Do I need touchwiz for the edge functionality?
Does rooting/rom installing still cause the counter (I forget it's name) to go up? Or have Sammy finally got rid of that. I don't want to lose my warrenty in a matter of days lol
Any other roms have edge functionality
Are Sammy faster with updates these days? I used to go mad waiting for them to catch up!
Sorry for the list of noob questions but it's been a while and I was getting lost in all the threads!
You do not need TouchWiz to use Edge functions. I use Nova launcher and it's working perfectly.
If you like to flash with ODIN, then you have every week an update to flash.
Updates are faster and it has been this way for 3 months now
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If you like to flash with ODIN, then you have every week an update to flash.
Updates are faster and it has been this way for 3 months now
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Wow that's good to hear, they seemed to lag behind a lot in the old days of my s2/s3
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You do not need TouchWiz to use Edge functions. I use Nova launcher and it's working perfectly.
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Brilliant!
Rooting will almost certainly invalidate any warranty. You will also not be able to use samsung pay or nfc.
Touch whizz is not as bad as some folks let on about. It's usually persistent rooters that like nothing more than to play with phone settings all day, every day. Call them obsessives if you want .
Besides, ' ... a few weeks' as you put it is a lifetime in mobile phone terms. There will be an influx of new models by then and the S7 (and other current phones) will be museum pieces : -)
touch wiz has improved a lot from a while back. lag factor isn't really a issue these days. not saying it won't ever lag, any phone can even a iphone. but as far as edge functions u will need a touch wiz based rom if you are rooting i would think because it is part of touchwiz. 3rd party launchers will help u if u really don't want to look at touch wiz but it still needs to be there if that makes sense
as far as updates it isn't all that bad. i know on my note 5 i got mm on my sprint version before other carriers. so that has something to do with it too
This is my first Galaxy since the S2 and IMO Touchwiz is alot better than the iterations that I seen on previous friend's phones.
That said if you do take the plunge and end up not being satisfied with TW I recommend downloading the Good Lock app in the Galaxy store. Pretty much gets rid of TW and moves towards a clean android stock take on the notification drawer.
Good to hear, I recall touchwiz being a laggy mess and so far from the comfort of cyanogen etc.
Thanks all!
Think I won't root, but I might strip out some of the bloatware etc.
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Good to hear, I recall touchwiz being a laggy mess and so far from the comfort of cyanogen etc.
Thanks all!
Think I won't root, but I might strip out some of the bloatware etc.
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No point. Few if any are resource hoggers. Better make sure you only have apps like Facebook active when you are actually using them. They, unlike most bloatware, really can have an impact on battery.
HI all.
I'm a new Samsung Galaxy Note 4 owner! Recently upgraded from a Note 3. Phones are years old but are decently priced and still good phones when you're not looking for something too fancy.
Honestly, the Note 3 was the best phone I've ever had and was looking forward to a Note 4 upgrade (was looking forward to the fingerprint scanner, even if not the best, and to the metal edges)
Now, I'd just like to ask for a few pointers on this device. Any custom ROM suggestions? Anything I should know about?
I am doing my fair share of research, I've been reading a lot of posts regarding this device, posts that are months old, posts that are years old and I've gotten myself a general idea of what to expect.
But I think even with all this reading, I probably won't be able to compare what I learn from these posts to someone that has owned a Note 4 for months, possibly years! Which is why I'm posting this thread, to ask those who have had this device for a longer time and will probably continue to use it for a longer time since this phone is amazing!
I just want to ask you Note 4 owners, if you bought a brand new Note 4, what set-up will you prefer? Custom ROM? Stock ROM? Any kernels you would flash?
I know the best ROM will always be stock ROM, but is there any worth-while N7 ports for the Note 4? I'm a big fan of the off-screen memo, the smart screen capture (scroll and screen-recording that records gifs) and also enjoy tweaking the kernel (overclock) for smoother game performance. I've also read that the most common problem with ports is the fingerprint scanner. I'll probably end up doing the work-around since no custom ROM has gotten this fixed (from what I read it's almost impossible without leaving a lot of the stock ROM's assets which defeat the point of a custom ROM).
Currently, I am downloading stock EQI2 6.0.1 which is the latest firmware for the N910T variant. I know that the T-Mobile variant has it's own forum but I usually see that the "Samsung Galaxy Note 4" thread is the most active and sometimes includes things for the T-Mobile variant (was the same case with the Note 3, the T-Mobile forum was dead and the international forum was alive and well)
It's running 5.0.1 software right now, hopefully 6.0.1 is better.
Thank you for your time!
I kindly invite you to try the unified trlte build linked in the [ROM] [UNOFFICIAL] [7.1.2] LineageOS 14.1 [SM-N910F/G/P/R4/T/T3/V/W8] thread.
ripee said:
I kindly invite you to try the unified trlte build linked in the [ROM] [UNOFFICIAL] [7.1.2] LineageOS 14.1 [SM-N910F/G/P/R4/T/T3/V/W8] thread.
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Thanks for your input, I am currently trying out a Note 7 ROM port, but if it doesn't work out I will try it out
Personally, I prefer to run the stock OS that comes pre-installed on my device and update the OS to the latest version provided by the manufacturer. As I know for a fact that Custom 3rd Party OSs do not have the best post imaging software. Which hinders the performance of the camera sensor on your device.
iceepyon said:
Personally, I prefer to run the stock OS that comes pre-installed on my device and update the OS to the latest version provided by the manufacturer. As I know for a fact that Custom 3rd Party OSs do not have the best post imaging software. Which hinders the performance of the camera sensor on your device.
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Been snooping around and messing with a couple of custom ROM's either with Note 7/8 features and S7 Edge/S8.
I really like the look overall to the stock Note 4 UI, but I seem to have a very bad luck with random reboots and some features missing (fingerprint) or not working (night clock).
I was really afraid my phone was doomed with the eMMC failure I keep reading about that plagued the Note 4, but I don't have any problems running stock.
Yup, I guess my motto came true. "The best ROM is always STOCK ROM", even if it looks a bit out-dated.
I'm currently running stock and a custom kernel I found for stock MM. I'm pleased with the results so far, just kind of wish I could boot straight in to camera with double HOME press
Best advice I can give you , owning the phone for 2,5 years, is to never use quick charge and never update the phone or flash custom roms while the phone is being charged.
snatch_bill said:
Best advice I can give you , owning the phone for 2,5 years, is to never use quick charge and never update the phone or flash custom roms while the phone is being charged.
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That's interesting, the first time I've ever read not to use quick charge. What particular reason do you have to suggest this?
ShaDisNX255 said:
That's interesting, the first time I've ever read not to use quick charge. What particular reason do you have to suggest this?
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I am amazed you are not aware of the motherboard brick problem of the note 4 !
Do a quick search and read about the motherboard Emmc problem on a lot of Note 4s.
Cheers!
ShaDisNX255 said:
I was really afraid my phone was doomed with the eMMC failure I keep reading about that plagued the Note 4, but I don't have any problems running stock.
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snatch_bill said:
I am amazed you are not aware of the motherboard brick problem of the note 4 !
Do a quick search and read about the motherboard Emmc problem on a lot of Note 4s.
Cheers!
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I did read about it, I just wasn't sure what was the root cause for it. So I guess fast charge is the culprit? Every place I read this people seemed to blame an update either from KK to LL, or from LL to MM. Wow... I gotta think about this one. One of the reasons I love this phone over my Note 3 is because of the quick charge. Man :/
Gotta think about trading that feature in for... you know... a FUNCTIONAL PHONE :laugh:
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I did read about it, I just wasn't sure what was the root cause for it. So I guess fast charge is the culprit? Every place I read this people seemed to blame an update either from KK to LL, or from LL to MM. Wow... I gotta think about this one. One of the reasons I love this phone over my Note 4 is because of the quick charge. Man :/
Gotta think about trading that feature in for... you know... a FUNCTIONAL PHONE :laugh:
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IMO the culprit was a heavy update(eg. from lollipop to Marshmallow) being installed , while the phone was pluged in being quickcharged.
This pushed the temperatures to exceed the max threshold of a bad emmc solder on the motherboard on some specific batches of the note 4.
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IMO the culprit was a heavy update(eg. from lollipop to Marshmallow) being installed , while the phone was pluged in being quickcharged.
This pushed the temperatures to exceed the max threshold of a bad emmc solder on the motherboard on some specific batches of the note 4.
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So you think regular quick charge should be fine? The phone doesn't heat up with regular quick charge, so I really hope it's safe. I know that just to be safe, I shouldn't use quick charge. But I guess I'll roll the dice.
I updated from LL to MM via Odin, so it wasn't quick charging :victory:
ShaDisNX255 said:
So you think regular quick charge should be fine? The phone doesn't heat up with regular quick charge, so I really hope it's safe. I know that just to be safe, I shouldn't use quick charge. But I guess I'll roll the dice.
I updated from LL to MM via Odin, so it wasn't quick charging :victory:
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In my case , my phone gets really warm while being quickcharged even if I am not using it at all.
I live in a warm place though!
If you want to use quickcharge , I suggest you go ahead and use it but without using the phone during the charge.
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In my case , my phone gets really warm while being quickcharged even if I am not using it at all.
I live in a warm place though!
If you want to use quickcharge , I suggest you go ahead and use it but without using the phone during the charge.
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Yeah, I'll take my precautions. Thank you for your input
I have an exynos version so can't tell you much about the snapdragon versions (also never heard of emmc problems on exynos devices, the only problem I have is IR blaster stopped working some update ago and never worked again since), but here's little general advice :
Stock ROM is perfectly reliable and very smooth with little customization :
I recommend a package disabler app like EZ disabler to get rid of bloat. I disable anything that doesn't have a clear use for me . If something breaks functionality I enable it back.
If you don't want to root you can use adhel to block ads in very efficient way .
If you do want to root I recommend magisk . It's the best way to do it because if anything goes wrong you can just uninstall it and everything is fine again , it doesn't affect system partition.
Also system less xposed works great if you use the proper version . I love youtube background mod.
In my experience you should never use apps that claim to save battery like amplify/greenify etc . (In some cases they drain the battery even faster with their continuous background services) The better way to save power is to not install power hungry apps in the first place or disable them with EZ disabler . Also disable animations and just disable functions when you don't use them : Sync/Location /Bluetooth etc .
Last but not least : download and use Samsung game booster : it's amazing for our old gpus : you can lower resolution/frame rates to make games more playable and battery last longer .
These were my quick tips . Hope you enjoy your new phone !
r33fd said:
I have an exynos version so can't tell you much about the snapdragon versions (also never heard of emmc problems on exynos devices, the only problem I have is IR blaster stopped working some update ago and never worked again since), but here's little general advice :
Stock ROM is perfectly reliable and very smooth with little customization :
I recommend a package disabler app like EZ disabler to get rid of bloat. I disable anything that doesn't have a clear use for me . If something breaks functionality I enable it back.
If you don't want to root you can use adhel to block ads in very efficient way .
If you do want to root I recommend magisk . It's the best way to do it because if anything goes wrong you can just uninstall it and everything is fine again , it doesn't affect system partition.
Also system less xposed works great if you use the proper version . I love youtube background mod.
In my experience you should never use apps that claim to save battery like amplify/greenify etc . (In some cases they drain the battery even faster with their continuous background services) The better way to save power is to not install power hungry apps in the first place or disable them with EZ disabler . Also disable animations and just disable functions when you don't use them : Sync/Location /Bluetooth etc .
Last but not least : download and use Samsung game booster : it's amazing for our old gpus : you can lower resolution/frame rates to make games more playable and battery last longer .
These were my quick tips . Hope you enjoy your new phone !
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The only small problem I have with stock is that it looks outdated. I know visuals are the least you should look for in a ROM, should be more worried about stability and battery life, but I simply can't deny that visually, stock TW UI bothers me.
But I guess I'll have to get used to it anyway since all the ROMs I've tried have issues here and there, but most importantly I get random shut downs and reboots with most custom ROMs and I lose the fingerprint scanner.
As for games, I heavily play a game called Shadowgun Deadzone. It's not that graphics heavy, but I need it to run smooth. I haven't tried Samsung's game booster, I've only messed around with custom kernels and changing the CPU governor, overclocking, etc... and it runs fine for a little while, but starts chugging after a few minutes in.
If the game booster can fix this, heck I can stick with stock ROM without any problems.
When you say it looks outdated
Are you talking about the launcher?
If so why not try the many other launchers out there? Like nova launcher..
nutpants said:
When you say it looks outdated
Are you talking about the launcher?
If so why not try the many other launchers out there? Like nova launcher..
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A launcher can only do so much. I'm referring to mostly on things like the notification drawer, the settings and stuff like that.