Could Droid Turbo 2 battery be retrofit into the MXPE? - X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Articles I've read stated that the Droid Turbo 2 is Verizon's beefed up (and bloated) Moto X Pure. If that's true, if the devices are truly mostly compatible, is it possible that the battery of the Turbo 2 would fit into the MXPE? 3000 mAh to 3760 mAh would be a BIG jump in capacity that would address one of the most talked-about shortcomings of the Moto X Pure. I did this once with a Droid Razr HD and the battery and back cover of an otherwise-destroyed Droid Razr Maxx HD. I see that the overall dimensions of the two phones are slightly different. The Turbo 2 is a little wider. The Moto X Pure is a little taller. But the Moto X Pure is slightly DEEPER than the Turbo 2 (.44" vs .36"), which might mean some adaptation is possible. Just curious. I'm underwhelmed by the MXPE battery life like everyone else but otherwise I love the phone.

I keep hearing about this phone's bad battery, but I regularly get 2.5 days between charges whilst running the indian marshmallow rom.
Typical usage involves BT streaming to my car stereo to and from work (1hr each way) and around an hour of wifi/4g browsing each day, random phone calls etc...
This phone has the best battery I have ever had in a smart phone!
Droid 2 turbo disassembly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCKaVSUANXs
X Style/Pure disassembly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuewklttaSc
Looks like the battery connector for the 2 phones is of a different type and in a different location!

I wondered the same about using the Moto X play as a retrofit also. The play phone is physically smaller. But I have yet to see a disassembly video of that to compare.

When people say the turbo is "basically" a pure, they mean on paper. They are two completely different phones, the battery won't just swap out.
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T-Keith said:
When people say the turbo is "basically" a pure, they mean on paper. They are two completely different phones, the battery won't just swap out.
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Its a possibility it might if the Pure was a 'prototype' or ref they made the Turbo 2 from. Its unlikely but not out of the realm of possibilities.

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Nexus 5 to Moto X

After having issues with the N5's very poor call quality as well as sending double texts to my recipients. 10 replacements later and I've decided to switch to a Moto X.
Specs wise, I wouldn't say it's an upgrade from the Nexus 5 but not a downgrade either.
The O/S is nice and clean with just a few useful features added by Motorola.
Absolutely loving the Active Notifications, Motorola Connect (text from my Chrome), Motorola Assist etc. They're so useful.
Best feature is the voice recognition. It's so accurate it's scary lol. Much more accurate than the Nexus 5.
Best of all, call quality is superb!
The screen is smaller but my thumb used to often struggle to reach certain parts of the Nexus 5 screen which I don't have to worry about any more. I think it's a good balance between size and comfort.
The speaker is miles louder than the one in my N5. Massive difference!!
The phone feels fluid as the N5.
There's only one area I've noticed any slowness so far. That's in restoring my 16000+ text messages using SMS Backup & Restore. It took a fair bit longer than my N5 did. Not a big deal though as only needed to do it once.
I've got a usable phone and some money in my pocket on top. Can't complain.
Oh that Motorola Migrate feature didn't work for me when I tried it. Only tried it once though.
Most of my stuff is in the cloud anyway.
I do miss the wireless charging though but it's a loss I was willing to take as the Moto X benefits far outweigh the need to move away from the N5.
There should not be any difference in voice recognition as both phones rely on Google for that. I haven't noticed any difference between the two. ( Moto X is slightly better at picking up voice in noisy environment from little more distance. That's about it. Might have something to do with microphone quality. But when nexus 5 is held close, they're is virtually no difference in accuracy)
But yeah, Other than more consistent camera on nexus 5 after the update, I would take Moto X over nexus 5 any given day. In fact I came from Nexus 5 to moto x. I never really had any of the voice quality issues on nexus 5 either but overall I like the feel of Moto X. And love the active notifications.
From my Moto X, in your face!
I'm so tempted to get a nexus =( my flashing habits are going crazy with all those non-existent roms for my X
dedei said:
I'm so tempted to get a nexus =( my flashing habits are going crazy with all those non-existent roms for my X
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When friends and family see mine and my wife's phones (me n5 now, her moto x) and they ask if I recommend them, my advice is always the same.
Moto x if you just want a great and smooth phone.
N5 if they are techy and may want to mess with the phone.
Thats my standard advice. They are both great phones....but for the non techy, the moto x is definitely the best choice. ?
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Battery life is better on the moto x by miles.
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Battery life is better on the moto x by miles.
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For the "everything on" people perhaps you are right....not miles though...but the x is probably a bit better.
But...I have both, and both get over 24 hours on a charge, and both can get over 6 hours screen time. With most things off of course. And greenified, and screen not too bright. I guess the x is slightly better on average for me...but only slightly. Oh...and I rarely use the "phone"....I'm a texter. ?
If set up for maximum battery life...both are excellent. But many want everything on....so they will lose more battery for sure. Much more.
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I am loving Motorola Connect, it is so convenient. It is going to take some fantastic phone to get me to change from my MotoX Dev Edition.
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I previously had a developer edition moto x one of the first on here to get one and then I bought into the nexus 5 hype and am back to a moto X. It is an all around better phone than the N5. No its ands or butts. Also to concur with the previous poster the voice recognition is better on the X because of the dedicated speech engine. The X has the perfect ergonomics just as fluid and fast, screen is actually better inho and the speaker is miles better. I get just as good pica from my X than the supposedly better n5. The only thing the N5 camera truly has on it is the OIS. Lastly motos extras are worth the price of admission all by themselves.
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I am loving Motorola Connect, it is so convenient. It is going to take some fantastic phone to get me to change from my MotoX Dev Edition.
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I love this feature too especially when at work as it stops me fiddling around with my phone which can make others around me think I'm never off it.
This way I can discreetly reply to contacts and keep tabs of phone calls
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I love this feature too especially when at work as it stops me fiddling around with my phone which can make others around me think I'm never off it.
This way I can discreetly reply to contacts and keep tabs of phone calls
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I compared the speaker quality with my partners HTC 8X (which comes with Beats Audio) and mine actually sounds like it has a slightly higher frequency making treble sound like it's going to pop out. Very clear! The volume is just as loud as hers.
I unwillingly came from a N5 by dropping it and shattering the screen. Had been eyeing the moto x for a bit and decided to pick a like-new condition used one for cheap. Boy am I glad that I did. On paper everyone knocks it, but in actuality it's probably the best android phone I have ever used out of the box. No stock experience is as good, and this is my 7th android phone since 2009. Voice recognition is better hands down because of the dedicated processor. Active display is by far one of the best features out of any android device today. Form factor is excellent (N5 was good but ever so slightly too big for me), voice quality is better (both on speaker and off).
Battery life on STOCK Moto X is as good as my N5 was when I was rooted, underclocking, undervolting, except I have everything turned on (location, auto brightness, touchless controls, active display, etc. etc.).
I just (unwillingly) landed a moto x after living the luxury of lg's g2, and sadly I am extremely let down.
I had high hopes for the moto x, and don't get me wrong, for the average user not wanting to spend much on a phone, the moto x is a great choice, and has a lot less manufacturer and carrier bloat than much of its competition, but stacked next to the g2 I feel like I'm being punished.
I won't go to much into screen size because a lot of that is user preference, but personally I always thought that phablet sized phone were too much (and still do). The g2 still felt natural even with its larger size, where I find the moto x uncomfortable.
The moto x stock camera is actually pretty nice. My g2 was running cyanogenmod and the camera was slow as hell, but still took good pictures, the moto x is much faster.
Battery life is upsetting on the moto x compared to the g2. My g2 could survive 2 days of heavy use with everything on and just start entering the 15% low battery range. The moto x hardly makes it through one day (with most of the carrier/manufacturer boat apps disabled).
The screen color and brightness on the moto x are annoyingly over saturated. The amoled obviously isn't doing the battery and favors, so I'm pretty sold on the true IPS offered in the g2 as superior for battery and for display performance (and in not taking about resolution difference).
The microphone for calls on the moto x hardly picks my voice up (no issues on the g2)
The rear speaker on the moto x is actually louder and more clear than the g2, so that's nice.
But then the last nail in the coffin for me was the headphone quality. The g2 without modification has roughly the same volume output as the moto x, but the audio quality on the moto x is a joke. To make matters worse, if you use an auxiliary input in your car and plug the phone into a car charger while paying music and then unplug the car charger mid song you'll hear a pretty ridiculous difference in audio quality. It's as if the phone refuses to put any effort into making audio sound decent unless it's charging. And no this isn't a grounding issue, it's actually the phone putting less power towards the audio output when it's not charging, and it really kills the sound unless it's plugged in.
Anyway, as soon as I'm able to jump ship I'm headed back to LG land and probably not going to visit MOTOville again for a LONG time.
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iXNyNe said:
I just (unwillingly) landed a moto x after living the luxury of lg's g2, and sadly I am extremely let down.
I had high hopes for the moto x, and don't get me wrong, for the average user not wanting to spend much on a phone, the moto x is a great choice, and has a lot less manufacturer and carrier bloat than much of its competition, but stacked next to the g2 I feel like I'm being punished.
I won't go to much into screen size because a lot of that is user preference, but personally I always thought that phablet sized phone were too much (and still do). The g2 still felt natural even with its larger size, where I find the moto x uncomfortable.
The moto x stock camera is actually pretty nice. My g2 was running cyanogenmod and the camera was slow as hell, but so took good pictures, the moto x is much faster.
Battery life is upsetting on the moto x compared to the g2. My g2 could survive 2 days of heavy use with everything on and just start entering the 15% low battery range. The moto x hardly makes it through one day (with most of the carrier/manufacturer boat apps disabled).
The screen color and brightness on the moto x are annoyingly over saturated. The amoled obviously isn't doing the battery and favors, so I'm pretty sold on the true IPS offered in the g2 as superior for battery and for display performance (and in not taking about resolution difference).
The microphone for calls on the moto x hardly picks my voice up (no issues on the g2)
The rear speaker on the moto x is actually louder and more clear than the g2, so that's nice.
But then the last nail in the coffin for me was the headphone quality. The g2 without modification has roughly the same volume output as the moto x, but the audio quality on the moto x is a joke. To make matters worse, if you use an auxiliary input in your car and plug the phone into a car charger while paying music and then unplug the car charger mid song you'll hear a pretty ridiculous difference in audio quality. It's as if the phone refuses to put any effort into making audio sound decent unless it's charging. And no this isn't a grounding issue, it's actually the phone putting less power towards the audio output when it's not charging, and it really kills the sound unless it's plugged in.
Anyway, as soon as I'm able to jump ship I'm headed back to LG land and probably not going to visit MOTOville again for a LONG time.
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*waves*
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in my opinion the Nexus 5 is much better than the Motorola X, a much faster and with 2 cores more, better gpu for gaming and graphics, better display quality and higher definition processor, I just think that the Motorola x is better in voice prompts and little gross ... but in comparison the Nexus 5 takes the cake ... the processor is noted and much, greetings
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I also came from a 32gb nexus 5 to a 16gb moto x. And the n5 is just a bit faster not much though. My op the moto is way better for me. Just on the edge of 1 handed use. Where the nexus was very much 2 handed. I still have the nexus and I will not go back. X is the perfect all around phone. Size,speed,camera, screen,camera. Not the best in any but the best all together
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Its funny the two people who chose the other phones over the X were all about specs while the others are actually about the usage of a phone. I never understood the spec war its like having a Ferrari with nowhere to drive it. If you cant use it all that horsepower is a waste
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Its funny the two people who chose the other phones over the X were all about specs while the others are actually about the usage of a phone. I never understood the spec war its like having a Ferrari with nowhere to drive it. If you cant use it all that horsepower is a waste
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... No...
See my post #12 right above yours on the same page.
The points I made have nothing to do with specs, just actual usage. Things that will actually make the experience of using the phone measurably different for a non-technical user.
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I also came from a 32gb nexus 5 to a 16gb moto x. And the n5 is just a bit faster not much though. My op the moto is way better for me. Just on the edge of 1 handed use. Where the nexus was very much 2 handed. I still have the nexus and I will not go back. X is the perfect all around phone. Size,speed,camera, screen,camera. Not the best in any but the best all together
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I agree with you as I noticed the same things.
I couldn't use my N5 as a phone as nobody could ever hear me the microphone quality is that bad. Most of the time I couldn't even hear them so a majority of each call was spent shouting hello to each other.
I've not noticed any speed difference between the N5 and Moto X. Browsing through the menus is very smooth and fluid, opening apps is almost instant, web page browsing is just the same too. Only difference was when restoring a high number of text messages which is where the N5 came into it's own.
But doing every day tasks such as phone calls, adding memos, adding calendar entries, Spotify, Facebook, Twitter, WhatApp, taking photos, etc, there is no difference at all that I've noticed.
If I were just given the N5 and Moto X to play with without being given the spec of either, I wouldn't be able to tell any difference in speed.
Also it's the most comfortable phone I've ever owned by a mile. No longer need both hands to operate the phone like I had to do with the N5. Screen size is perfect for me.
I have a question for you guys that had both: which camera is better?
AndreaCristiano said:
Its funny the two people who chose the other phones over the X were all about specs while the others are actually about the usage of a phone. I never understood the spec war its like having a Ferrari with nowhere to drive it. If you cant use it all that horsepower is a waste
MOTO X
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Nicely said.

Will This Be Your New Device

Looks like the Moto X may be a keeper with a 5.2" screen.
Looks very pleasant. Concerned a little bit about the battery size though
Same about the battery, big concern if this thing cant last a whole day. Should be at least a 2700mAh battery with a screen over 5 inches. Unless moto made some big changes to background software for the battery (and the L preview's project volte being a battery saver), I might just wait and see.
No . I currently own the LG G2 (having had a Moto X 2013 before). I liked how compact the old moto x was and have been disappointed with this year's flagships (HTC, LG, Samsung) for going larger but not superpowered relative to the LG G2 and Nexus 5.
The X2 is bigger in every dimension compared to the G2 (and I found that 2.8" width was my breaking point where I no longer like holding phones... why I downgraded from the LG G3 to LG G2) with a smaller battery and similiar power. The AMOLED screen will be great for battery life with notifications. The software updates seem really good and leave me more confident that post-Google Motorola won't fall off a cliff. The speakers aren't my thing. The additional mics aren't either (as I never leave my phone far from me in a crowded room. The camera looks very good as it seems like they fixed a weak area of
I think I'll be targeting slightly smaller phones for now (in the pre-SD805 days). On my fall list are the Galaxy Alpha, Sony's Z3 Compact and the Xioami Mi4.
i'm very interested in seeing the actual performance of this phone. i have high hopes for the camera and additional functionality they're claiming. all-in-all i'll have to hold it before i make my decision.
Currently a Note 2 user, I was pleased to see the size increase on the Moto X. I'm concerned abotu the battery, though. Right now I'm torn between the Note 4, LG G3, Moto X, and Nexus 6/X.
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No . I currently own the LG G2 (having had a Moto X 2013 before). I liked how compact the old moto x was and have been disappointed with this year's flagships (HTC, LG, Samsung) for going larger but not superpowered relative to the LG G2 and Nexus 5.
The X2 is bigger in every dimension compared to the G2 (and I found that 2.8" width was my breaking point where I no longer like holding phones... why I downgraded from the LG G3 to LG G2) with a smaller battery and similiar power. The AMOLED screen will be great for battery life with notifications. The software updates seem really good and leave me more confident that post-Google Motorola won't fall off a cliff. The speakers aren't my thing. The additional mics aren't either (as I never leave my phone far from me in a crowded room. The camera looks very good as it seems like they fixed a weak area of
I think I'll be targeting slightly smaller phones for now (in the pre-SD805 days). On my fall list are the Galaxy Alpha, Sony's Z3 Compact and the Xioami Mi4.
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According to Joshua from Anandtech even though the Moto X is the same in dimensions to the S5, the Moto X is still much easier to use with one hand because of its design and is similar to use with one hand to LG G2. So you should give it a try, maybe you'll like the size.
Maybe?
Very disappointed to see the increased size, though it was inevitable.. I have been looking forward to this phone for months because of the innovation and engineering that went into the original moto x. Using separate processing elements for different parts of the phone is, I think, the absolute key to the battery life/functionality equation. I've been waiting for a company to split the UI and external features (screen, mics, cameras, etc..) off from the core phone functionality to save juice for a long time. When the screen is off, there should be little need to run the main processor, and therefore it should be kinder to its battery. I do need to know if this unit will have a replaceable battery, unfortunately its a complete no-go for me if it doesn't..
Hoping for the best!:good:
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According to Joshua from Anandtech even though the Moto X is the same in dimensions to the S5, the Moto X is still much easier to use with one hand because of its design and is similar to use with one hand to LG G2. So you should give it a try, maybe you'll like the size.
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Thanks that's useful to hear as that's quite a key requirement for me with a phone.
I was thinking about replacing my rooted GS4 with this one but I wonder whats coming down the pipe from the Nexus and LG
If it comes to Sprint, I will most likely get it.
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If there is a Dev edition then I'll buy immediately.
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If it comes to Sprint, I will most likely get it.
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http://www.androidcentral.com/moto-x-specs-2014 XT1092 unlocked version, including sprint
I like the size increase. I would rather it stayed at 5 inch screen instead of 5.2 but the battery size should have been bumped to 2600. Even if they are going to release a Moto Maxx version with a 3000 battery. Not sure if I will get this now or wait until the Nexus X before I ditch my VZW unlimited for greener pastures.
let us not forget about this filing:
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/07/30/moto-maxx-trademarked-by-motorola-for-new-phone/
seems like the new X might be worth the additional wait. what was the turnaround on features for the X? AT&T had exclusivity until summer '12? Then other carriers got the "plain" variants, followed by MotoMaker almost two months later. Wood backs didn't arrive for... another two months?
if there were a bigger (read: thicker) battery option for the X in the works, are we looking at Jan release?
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let us not forget about this filing:
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/07/30/moto-maxx-trademarked-by-motorola-for-new-phone/
seems like the new X might be worth the additional wait. what was the turnaround on features for the X? AT&T had exclusivity until summer '12? Then other carriers got the "plain" variants, followed by MotoMaker almost two months later. Wood backs didn't arrive for... another two months?
if there were a bigger (read: thicker) battery option for the X in the works, are we looking at Jan release?
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I'll probably wait to see what the next nexus phone is and then make a decision. Hopefully by then, there will be more clarification on what the Moto maXx is . I'd really like a 2014 Moto X with a larger capacity battery. For me that's the only thing it's really missing.
I don't get the battery size concern. I've never once worried about my moto x's battery running out by the end of the day. Motorola knows what they are doing.
the new X is a good 1-2mm thinner than the old one at the edges. i'd say there's room for a 4000mAh battery.
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I don't get the battery size concern. I've never once worried about my moto x's battery running out by the end of the day. Motorola knows what they are doing.
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That's great news for you then.
Way too big for my taste, and I've become a big Moto fan since owning the X. What ever happened to all that research done to come up with the original X being the perfect size? Hope they do a blow out sale on the original X and I'll pick up a spare if the price is good. I understand the trend towards bigger phones, but all the Android manufacturers leaving behind high spec more compact models is VERY disappointing.

Looking to upgrade to Droid Turbo

Hello all, currently im running the Droid Razr MAXX (2012), its starting to show its age and i have been due for a upgrade for awhile now, i was originally looking at the Note 4 but the Droid Tubro has gained my attention. The Droid Razr MAXX has been the only smartphone i have owned so im not sure how much i would enjoy touchwiz. With my limited experince using the liquid smooth rom on my razr maxx and using my nexus 7 i believe that stock android is something that i more prefer, i assume that the droid turbo is closer to that aspect.
I want opinions from people, preferablly that have owned/have experince with the Razr MAXX or its successor (Droid Maxx) on wether or not the 64GB Droid Turbo is a good pickup for 250$ Contract price.
If you prefer a stock experience, don't need a 6 inch screen and don't mind VZWs handprint, then you should be quite happy. It's a really nice phone and the 64 gig version looks and feels sweet.
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Hello all, currently im running the Droid Razr MAXX (2012), its starting to show its age and i have been due for a upgrade for awhile now, i was originally looking at the Note 4 but the Droid Tubro has gained my attention. The Droid Razr MAXX has been the only smartphone i have owned so im not sure how much i would enjoy touchwiz. With my limited experince using the liquid smooth rom on my razr maxx and using my nexus 7 i believe that stock android is something that i more prefer, i assume that the droid turbo is closer to that aspect.
I want opinions from people, preferablly that have owned/have experince with the Razr MAXX or its successor (Droid Maxx) on wether or not the 64GB Droid Turbo is a good pickup for 250$ Contract price.
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Do you use Smart Actions? If so, and you like it, you will be frustrated with Assist. Like really frustrated. Also, no notification light on the Turbo if that's important to you. The speaker is a step down from the Razr as well. Other than that the Turbo will feel like a big upgrade. The screen is beautiful and the phone runs very fast. Some have commented on the screens lack of brightness. It may be less bright than other phones on the market but I held it side by side with my Razr Maxx HD (both on max setting) and the Turbo was brighter. The battery on the Turbo isn't what I hoped but it certainly lasts longer than the 2 year old battery in my Maxx HD and it will get you through a day of heavy use no problem. Can't speak to Touch Wiz and the other Note 4 features as I haven't used one. Hope that helps.
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Do you use Smart Actions? If so, and you like it, you will be frustrated with Assist. Like really frustrated. Also, no notification light on the Turbo if that's important to you. The speaker is a step down from the Razr as well. Other than that the Turbo will feel like a big upgrade. The screen is beautiful and the phone runs very fast. Some have commented on the screens lack of brightness. It may be less bright than other phones on the market but I held it side by side with my Razr Maxx HD (both on max setting) and the Turbo was brighter. The battery on the Turbo isn't what I hoped but it certainly lasts longer than the 2 year old battery in my Maxx HD and it will get you through a day of heavy use no problem. Can't speak to Touch Wiz and the other Note 4 features as I haven't used one. Hope that helps.
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Well its been awhile since i used smart action as i have not been on the stock rom for over a year now. When i was on the stock rom all i used it for was to setup a profile to turn off all sound during school hours. With the rom im currently using their is a "profile" system that allows me to do that without the need for a standalone app like smartactions.
This phone is super awesome! I never ever liked Samsung touchwiz. So much ram is uses and is complicated too! My turbo makes me to not look back at my previous razr maxx and atrix hd (which was the first chassis design for the razer) and I always stock android for it was always simple even though I use nova launcher which is the same really. The turbo is worth to get for the screen is super clear, battery lasts all day no matter how hardcore you use it, camera is acceptable for its 20.7 mp, and the ballistic nylon back is so amazing! Only drawback I dislike is in calls that the speaker is not so loud compared to other phones and some times having to put it on speakerphone to hear. The turbo is worth to get!
I've had both the droid RAZR MAXX and the droid MAXX.
RAZR MAXX to droid maxx is a big upgrade in terms of screen size/quality, speed and features (active notifications, always listening). Droid MAXX to turbo is a more incremental upgrade.
Note that the turbo does not do simultaneous voice and data so that may be a deal breaker. This, to me, gives the old droid MAXX a big leg up.
Either the droid MAXX or the turbo are both a huge step up from the RAZR MAXX.
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I've had both the droid RAZR MAXX and the droid MAXX.
RAZR MAXX to droid maxx is a big upgrade in terms of screen size/quality, speed and features (active notifications, always listening). Droid MAXX to turbo is a more incremental upgrade.
Note that the turbo does not do simultaneous voice and data so that may be a deal breaker. This, to me, gives the old droid MAXX a big leg up.
Either the droid MAXX or the turbo are both a huge step up from the RAZR MAXX.
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From what i read the simultaneous voice and data thing is going to be patched before the end of the year
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From what i read the simultaneous voice and data thing is going to be patched before the end of the year
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They are going to enable VoLTE ... Which will enable it when you are connected to LTE, same as it is right now for last years phones.
The difference is that right now, with a phone with dual radios (XT1080M, moto x 2013) if you leave an LTE area while doing both, you loose data (no big deal usually). With the new breed of phones (turbo, moto x 2014) with VoLTE and one radio, if you loose LTE while talking - you drop the call.
Net result? The new generation of phones will have more dropped calls, when using VoLTE.
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From what I've read on here, the lack of voice+data is a limitation on Verizon's network. Some have taken the Droid Turbo to AT&T where voice+data works, so the phone has the capability, just not on Verizon.
I'm thinking of going from an AT&T Galaxy S3 to the Droid Turbo. I currently have Straight Talk service. I would imagine, since the Turbo's unlocked, that I can just pop my Straight Talk SIM into the Turbo and it should work, with a few APN adjustments.

Replace Razr M? With What?

Hey all,
Been using my RAZR M for a long while now. I really like the small size and decent hardware specs. I know it won't last forever... So, recently, I took a look at what I could replace it with and found very few options in it's size and form factor. I prefer Motorola devices to other manufacturers, so I was limited to their current and previous models.
The closest I came, was the Droid MAXX. Only slightly larger with a nice screen (higher resolution and a bit larger) and decent specs including battery life. The main issue? NO MEMORY CARD SLOT! That is a deal breaker for me.
Anyone have any suggestions??
Thanks,
Rick
BlackIce
Droid Mini is about the same size as the RAZR M but shares the same processor as the DROID MAXX and the 2 gigs of RAM also
Replacing with a Droid Mini, really doesn't get me anywhere. It has the same size screen and a but less battery life.
Rick
I thought you wanted the small form factor of the Droid RAZR M??, the DROID MAXX is significantly larger then the Droid RAZR M
I was just facing the same problem, and ended up getting the razr M....
I didn't really care about manufacturer, though. But I wanted a small form factor, SD card slot, much prefer amoled, and a lively hack community.
Last contenders for me were:
Samsung S4 mini
Sony Z3 compact - sadly not amoled, and quite expensive.
BLU has some phones that I looked into, for example the vivo HD. But in the end I got the razr M...
I'm Back. It really is time to replace my Razr M. Works OK.. has some battery drain and heat issues sometimes. Likely that's software related. At this point a slightly larger screen would be fine, but whatever replaces it MUST have a card slot of somekind as I really use the space for lots of documents and pdf's I carry around for reference.
Any recommendations for a new Motorola Phone? I'd like to stay away from the huge mini tablet style phones, but a light upsize would be OK.
I do not need the newest or latest/greatest offering, a generation newer (or two) would be OK and I could find one at a good price online.
What say you all?
Rick
I'd say the G4 Plus or maybe the new G5 Plus? If you're willing to venture outside of Motorola, the X Compact from Sony might be to your likely. Personally, I thought I could never have a large phone and then bought a Moto X PE. Was a good phone for about two years.
Wow thoe G4 is HUGE! 5.5 inch screen. I'd like to stay in the 5" max range.
thanks!
Rick
I just bought a used HTC One M8, and I'm very happy with it. Larger footprint, and it's easily unlockable. I still love my RazrM, but this phone is blazing fast in comparison. Many custom ROMs available for it, including several based on the latest nougat OS.
The G5 Plus is a 5.2 screen, but has call quality issues on VoLTE with Verizon. The new Moto e4 is a little smaller.
Looks like the HTC 10 is essentially the same size as the Moto e4 yet slightly larger and much better screen and horsepower.
I took a look at the new Small Goofle Pixel phone. It was nice, but no SD card slot. Dealbreaker.
Still looking. I could use a generation or two behind the current crop of phones, but my Razr M is beginning to have difficulty with many of the newer google apps. Slow downs, pauses, etc.
Rick
All the Moto G and E series have SD slot as does the HTC 10. Pixel is too $$$. The 5X would have been OK except it had the bad GPU solder issues.
I understand about the slow down. I just wiped my cache for the first time ever and that has helped.

ditching my note4 ... recommend xforce?

background: my lg g2 protected by the otterbox defender served me well but was old and digitizer was broken. I wanted a phone with a bright display and long battery life. I settled on a note4. more specifically a n910t because it took root. I bought zerolemon battery/case. I'm in love with the battery life. it lasts more than a day without worrying about turning off gps or bluetooth. the downside is the screen seems to crack everytime I drop it. I miss the days with my old razr maxx that I could abuse to no end without every having a case and the screen never cracked. so I am now contemplating another phone. when it comes to battery life and shatterproof screen it seems the turbo2 is the obvious choice except it looks like rooting is not an option. from what I can tell the xforce is very similar to the turbo2 but can be rooted and includes more lte bands.
can anyone comment on these features for the xforce:
root available
shatterproof
bright display
usage on circket wireless
long battery life under heavy use
and/or
extended battery with case
update: looking at used phones on ebay. why does the xforce cost considerably more than the turbo2?
big-cheez said:
background: my lg g2 protected by the otterbox defender served me well but was old and digitizer was broken. I wanted a phone with a bright display and long battery life. I settled on a note4. more specifically a n910t because it took root. I bought zerolemon battery/case. I'm in love with the battery life. it lasts more than a day without worrying about turning off gps or bluetooth. the downside is the screen seems to crack everytime I drop it. I miss the days with my old razr maxx that I could abuse to no end without every having a case and the screen never cracked. so I am now contemplating another phone. when it comes to battery life and shatterproof screen it seems the turbo2 is the obvious choice except it looks like rooting is not an option. from what I can tell the xforce is very similar to the turbo2 but can be rooted and includes more lte bands.
can anyone comment on these features for the xforce:
root available
shatterproof
bright display
usage on circket wireless
long battery life under heavy use
and/or
extended battery with case
update: looking at used phones on ebay. why does the xforce cost considerably more than the turbo2?
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Because it can be rooted and has more LTE bands. You answered the question yourself.
Also doesn't have stupid Verizon bloatware and useless CDMA bands.
I own three of the Moto Maxx XT1225, the "international" version of the Verizon Droid Turbo XT1254. QUARK (Droid Turbo/Moto Turbo/Moto Maxx) was the predecessor to KINZIE (Droid Turbo 2/Moto X Force). Compared to the Droid Turbo XT1254, the Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo XT1225 has more LTE bands (including ALL the AT&T bands), as well as more HSPA bands. Moto X Force seems to be the same.
big-cheez said:
looking at used phones on ebay. why does the xforce cost considerably more than the turbo2?
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'Cause MXF is the international version of the DT2, you response to your own question: More LTE Bands, More Memory (MXF 64gb instead 32Gb of the DT2).
I'm totally convinced now that the MXF is THE best buy that you can made this year, i got my MXF about 2 weeks now and no regrets, i came from the Moto X original (XT1052 Dev Edition), Moto G (XT1032) and the Motorola Razr I (XT890), this phones are really fasters but the MXF is THE BEST.
Plus you can unlock the bootloader, can root, and made every change that you want. Go for the Moto X Force, no the Droid Turbo 2 if you want moddify your machine, if you are a person that want the phone original, without touch anything, go for the DT2
Edit 1:
Root available: yes, after unlock the MXF Bootloader
Shatterproof: i test myself when the phone falls down of my motobike, it really seems "Shatterproof" because IT'S Shatterprof
Bright display: not really the best under daylight because the amoled display, but has an incredible image
Long battery life under heavy use and/or extended battery with case: I play Ingress (this game use a lot the gps and the data conection, so take in base that because it's a REALLY HEAVY USE) and wake up at 6 a.m. when i came back to home, i got 15 percent of battery @ 9 p.m. and i don't use a powerbank in all day... even i never charge THIS phone untill i go to sleep
:good:
Had both and prefer the Note 4 easily, better screen, far better camera and loads more dev support, battery life and speaker quality is the only thing MXF has going for it right now, compared to the Note 4, CM14 is out now for the MXF, but not as a daily driver, camera crashes a lot. If you are looking for a cheap upgrade, try the Oneplus 2, or if you have a bit more money, go for the Oneplus 3 or Nexus 6P these 3 are really awesome devices compared to the Note 4 and MXF (note 4 still has very good screen that is hard to beat, only newer Samsungs have better screens), stay away from LG, they are cursed with bootloop issues and ghosting on their LCDs.
Right now I own a MXF, but don't see it keeping it for too long, probably will go back to the Oneplus 2, very similar specs, but a lot more customs ROMs available.
Hope this helped =D
hugoprh said:
LRight now I own a MXF, but don't see it keeping it for too long, probably will go back to the Oneplus 2, very similar specs, but a lot more customs ROMs available.
Hope this helped =D
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1440p vs 1080p is not similar specs. I've had 1440p AMOLED since 2014 with Moto XT1225, and I'm never going back.
I didn't buy 2015 MXP because the silly plastic thingy on the display was NOT an upgrade from 2014 Droid Turbo/Moto Maxx. It made the display dimmer. Whereas stereo speakers and rear camera OIS would have fixed the two Quark deficiencies. Like what the sibling Moto Nexus 6 had, except it was just too freakin' big.

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