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After spamming the 4.4 update thread with phone comparison things, I decided to open a new thread.
Here we can compare other devices with the RAZR I and debate about stuff like that.
Now I will start.
After getting more and more problems with my RAZR I I decided to buy a new phone. I was searching for several weeks and now I have a moto X.(in Germany, bought via eBay, using Verizon KK ROM with fully supported German language)
What I have noticed so far:
-the X perfectly fits in your hand with a acceptable weight
-the battery consumption is better than the Ri's ( I get easy 20h of (my) normal use; Ri got only ~17h)
-the screen have a much higher resolution
-the X have a better performance, up to now I doesn't had any lags.
-the voice from outgoing calls is very clear, a bit better than the Ri; the voice quality of incoming calls depends on the calling phone
-both cameras of the X are better than the Ri's, but it have also problems when the light is low
-active display and touchless control are pretty neat
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Do we think the RAZR I will get 4.4
I hope moto let us know soon.
All the best
Moley
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I can't accept no slot for microSD on moto g and x. Even new version of RAZR m, droid mini there is no slot
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I think it is not fair to compare the Razr i against the X. The Moto X is without question the better phone by far, but that comes along with the fact that the X is a fully fledged flagship model of an Android and the Razr is and was a budget phone with medium specs. So a comparison can only be fair, if you compare it to phones in the same league like the Moto G, HTC One Mini, Samsung 4 mini and so on..
I recently had a Moto G in my hands and I can say that this phone is really remarkable, nice specs, nice design and it works like a charm. The only things that I noticed that are not to my liking is the bad camera and it is a bit too big for its own good. For my personal taste 4.3 is a perfect form factor, 4.5 is 0.2 inches too much. Also it is a bit thicker than the Razr i, so with my tiny little hands the G felt a bit bigger in my hands. Im not sure, if I just have to get used to that, but I really like the slim look and feel of the Razr i in comparison.
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I think it is not fair to compare the Razr i against the X. The Moto X is without question the better phone by far, but that comes along with the fact that the X is a fully fledged flagship model of an Android and the Razr is and was a budget phone with medium specs. So a comparison can only be fair, if you compare it to phones in the same league like the Moto G, HTC One Mini, Samsung 4 mini and so on..
I recently had a Moto G in my hands and I can say that this phone is really remarkable, nice specs, nice design and it works like a charm. The only things that I noticed that are not to my liking is the bad camera and it is a bit too big for its own good. For my personal taste 4.3 is a perfect form factor, 4.5 is 0.2 inches too much. Also it is a bit thicker than the Razr i, so with my tiny little hands the G felt a bit bigger in my hands. Im not sure, if I just have to get used to that, but I really like the slim look and feel of the Razr i in comparison.
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Same here, I also think that Moto X is currently the best phone on the market but still little to big for me.
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bongofred said:
I think it is not fair to compare the Razr i against the X. The Moto X is without question the better phone by far, but that comes along with the fact that the X is a fully fledged flagship model of an Android and the Razr is and was a budget phone with medium specs. So a comparison can only be fair, if you compare it to phones in the same league like the Moto G, HTC One Mini, Samsung 4 mini and so on..
I recently had a Moto G in my hands and I can say that this phone is really remarkable, nice specs, nice design and it works like a charm. The only things that I noticed that are not to my liking is the bad camera and it is a bit too big for its own good. For my personal taste 4.3 is a perfect form factor, 4.5 is 0.2 inches too much. Also it is a bit thicker than the Razr i, so with my tiny little hands the G felt a bit bigger in my hands. Im not sure, if I just have to get used to that, but I really like the slim look and feel of the Razr i in comparison.
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I agree entirely.
I picked up a G over Christmas to cheer myself up a bit and to find out what all the fuss was about - is this phone really as good as they say for such a ridiculously low price? Well in my opinion yes, and more.
I'd had a number of frustrations with my XT890: random lagginess, certains apps not being compatible, battery life not being quite as good as I expected, amongst others. The one thing I absolutely love about the '90 though is the form factor and build quality, so IMO how does the G stack up against it? Well it's now very much my main phone.
Overall I find it's quicker and smoother with nowhere near as many lags, although whether this is down to JB 4.3, the chip, or a combination of both I have no idea, but for me it works better. The build quality is exemplary. It doesn't in any way look or feel like a plastic phone and is a rock solid build, which is a lesson Samsung should learn and I'm not talking about their budget end either. Battery life is better, beautiful screen, and couldn't be happier. True, the camera's c*** but I'm not going to use it anyway,so a big thumbs up!
Thank you for the voice quality comparison on the Moto X that is great info!!!! Can someone comment on the same thing regarding the G?
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Same here, I also think that Moto X is currently the best phone on the market but still little to big for me.
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But it's only the X's screen size which is bigger than moto G's. These phone have nearly the same shape.
And the moto x doesn't feel so big.
To the problem with no SD-card-slot:
Yes that was the one point annoying me, but to be serious, even the nexus phones haven't such a slot and Google presents how they think a android phone have to look like with this phones, so I think the sd-card-slot will die out slowly.
So I bought a developer edition with 32GB of storage. That is enough for me, I've used the RAZR I with the internal 8GB plus a 16GB SD card and even that was okay.
On the other hand we have to look at the battery consumption. A device which have to handle a internal and a external storage needs more energy. Also are SD cards mostly slower than the build in storage, which means that we lose performance.
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In my opinion the SD card slot is only needed, if the phone has insufficient internal memory. 16 GB is just not enough for today's needs. At least for me it is not. 32 and plus of storage is a must have. That's why I didn't get a new nexus device or will not get the Moto G.
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I agree on the storage issue. My iPhone 5s has 64GB and only has about 20 gigs left. It will probably be quite full in a year or two. Why phones aren't offered with 128 or heck even 512 gigs is beyond me. They are the main computers in many of our lives now. They can charge pretty much anything they want for it and a lot of us will pay.
the asus zenPhone 5'@720p, atom z2580, 8gb + sd card, android 4.3, update to 4.4, for only 150 U$S its really the moto g killer.
I found the LG Nexus 4 a great replacement for my old Motorola Razr i, and it's even cheaper here on my country...
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I'm thinking about to sell my Razr i for 200€ and buy the Moto G for 169€ or even the one for 199€. My Razr i looks like freshly taken from the box, not one scratch, nothing. And there is a 64GB memory card with it. If I install the stock ROM then there is only the warning about the unlocked bootloader that reminds you that it is a used device.
I bought the 64GB card to listen to music, back when I was going to school but now it's a different situation and I don't have the time to listen to music on my smartphone, especially since I have a car now. And even if I wanna listen to music on my phone I think 16GB or even 8GB would be enough.
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I'm thinking about to sell my Razr i for 200€ and buy the Moto G for 169€ or even the one for 199€. My Razr i looks like freshly taken from the box, not one scratch, nothing. And there is a 64GB memory card with it. If I install the stock ROM then there is only the warning about the unlocked bootloader that reminds you that it is a used device.
I bought the 64GB card to listen to music, back when I was going to school but now it's a different situation and I don't have the time to listen to music on my smartphone, especially since I have a car now. And even if I wanna listen to music on my phone I think 16GB or even 8GB would be enough.
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always aim for more, not less, better wait for the asus zen Phones
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always aim for more, not less, better wait for the asus zen Phones
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Or wait what Motorola is going to present next week in the UK.
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I'm really not trying to troll here, just relaying my experience over the last two months:
I've been on Android for 3 years. Before, I was using WindowsMobile 6, and version 5 before that, until Microsoft stupidly killed that incredibly diverse ecosystem and made me and millions of others jump to Android. I had a clamshell Razr V3i before that that was an astonishingly good and beautifully hackable phone for the time - it was a great web browser with opera mini and I could email from it too, fantastic voice quality that could be tuned with a hex editor, and excellent radio/reception. It took a microSD so I used it as an MP3 player too. Moto typically has great build quality and radios though they definitely have released some total junk phones along the way too, I think I had a V551(??) that was dog poop, and several moto phones the camera broke on for no reason, usually a hardware failure like one of the internal lenses becoming dislodged, even if the phone was never dropped.
My *personal opinion* is that Android was most stable, useful and hackable at version 2.3 and has had been becoming progressively less stable and ever more locked down since. I have a Nexus 7 that I just leave stock and let it autoupdate whenever it feels like it to see what the latest edition of Android and latest versions of all my apps always look like; I've watched in horror as android and the Android app ecosystem has become a bug ridden laggy crashy malware adware spyware filled unholy mess over the last 12 months, as bad as Windows 98/XP ever was. Previously, as an android user I had always felt a little bit... i don't know... "more savvy" than iPhone users because Android was (supposedly) less expensive and I could make it do anything I wanted. But with the update to 4.1 on my RAZR i, I could no longer WIFI tether (it could tether with 4.0 but then Moto locked out tethering HARD and no one has figured a way around it) and that just made me really POed.
Then I also thought about it and realized I had EIGHT android devices and I was spending a ton of money always buying new android phones because that was usually the only way I could run the latest OS. I've for three years always been waiting/hoping that I'll get the next version of android when it is released, and usually all my hopes were dashed. Yes I did all the cyanagenmod/etc reflashing stuff for a while but that's always a little risky and after 10 or so flashes constantly trying out roll your own OS turns into a real time consumer, often gives me new bugs when I was trying eliminate other old bugs, and for some devices, namely the RAZRi, sometimes just not an option. My original Moto RAZR has a locked bootloader that was never really worked around. I was getting so sick of waiting around all of the time.
And I was noticing that there were people with iPhones many years old still using them, still happy with them. I played with a friends iPhone 3GS a year ago and was impressed with how smooth it was even then with supposedly far less hardware than my RAZR, and how happy she still was with it - and I noticed how aggravated I was with my RAZR.
So WTF, two months ago I bought a new iPhone 5s 64gb. It was Very
Expensive... but not really compared to the highest end Moto X, which was the other phone I was considering.
At first it was super annoying, not intuitive at all coming from android, lots of the design decisions seemed stupid. But I stuck with it, finally got used to everything about 3 weeks ago, and now two months after purchase I can say from my heart, and my head, it just blows Android out of the water right at this time. It is ROCK SOLID in hardware build and software stability, an order of magnitude above any android devices. I just can't stress enough how stable ios is compared to android. It took me many weeks to figure out all the workarounds I needed to do stuff like tethering, swype, etc, but now it does everything I can do on android.
I have two phones (work/personal), and this week I needed a second phone to replace my Razr i (which now has a new issue of blurry focus camera that I fix by banging it with my hand... i never dropped it... sigh), so I I just bought a used perfect condition 64gb Iphone 5 for $400. Goodbye Android for now.
There are hundreds of teensy little software and hardware design decisions in the iPhone that just make it so *pleasant* to use all the time. It makes all versions of android seem so rough and unpolished when I use my other android devices.
In the long run I think the iPhones will be either a wash cost wise, or maybe a little cheaper because now I can instead of buying a new Android phone every few months in hopes of finally having one that is solid and stable, I'll likely keep these iPhones for 2-3+ years and I'm guaranteed years of the most recent OS, available as soon as announced. But cost aside, ios is just a completely stress free experience that lets me get on with life.
Oh one last thing, the responsiveness of the iPhone is *phenomenal* I read a few months ago this is because the electronic hardware itself for the touchscreen has about 1/3rd the lag time between touching the screen, and the OS getting the signal. It makes the display feel really really good all the time. Now when I use any android touch screen it just feels so slow and annoying. Battery life is at least double the RAZR i in my experience so far, mostly because there is never any crap running in the background that I can't turn off, like is always happening in android as soon as I add more than three apps.
I'm not an apple aficionado at all; as soon as I find something better than iPhone I'll jump ship immediately, but as far as I can tell iPhone 5s is the best there is right now.
tl;dr: the iPhone 5 and 5s are mindblowingly good compared to the hell and heartbreak that android has turned onto. YMMV
Unfortunately, I must agree. Apple is doing so many things better with iOS than Google with Android. I always liked Android for openness, community, tweaking abilities ... currently I even write soft for Android at work ... but still, I'm always waiting for new version of Android that will fix problems from current version, I'm looking for custom ROMS that will eliminate constant lag and solve other problems.
I liked Google because it was the best software company in the world, company that ideology I liked, but now ... it's changing. They've still got good software but ads are getting more aggressive than ever, Android is getting more and more closed, and it will be fully closed in future, so maybe it's time to start searching for something new. But anyway I think that Android will be the most popular OS for very, very long time.
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Yeah, I have to say, that you have right with much things you've said, but you couldn't forget that iOS is build by apple, so they can perfectly fit the software to the hardware and vice versa. Android is open source and Google couldn't specify it for one device, it have to be as much stable as possible for a lot of devices, that is the problem. That's the same with every open source os.
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Well, I just made the switch from Razr I to the Moto G, just because I was offered a good price for my Razr (pristine condition) and couldn't resist.
Wasn't expecting much really, but it actually feels like a good upgrade. The screen is TONS better and with Kitkat the menu buttons now are completely hidden in most apps, making the screen really 4.5 inches. The overall feel is faster, especially with apps like Maps and Chrome. Games run faster as well, for example Asphalt 8 plays perfect on high settings, while on the Razr I will run only on low.
The downsides are plastic instead of the metal and kevlar on the Razr, the screen is not edge to edge and the camera is worse (also no 1080p video).
But for me the bigger and better display and the faster performance are worth it.
I currently think about getting a Sony Z1 Compact.
Looks like the Moto X may be a keeper with a 5.2" screen.
Looks very pleasant. Concerned a little bit about the battery size though
Same about the battery, big concern if this thing cant last a whole day. Should be at least a 2700mAh battery with a screen over 5 inches. Unless moto made some big changes to background software for the battery (and the L preview's project volte being a battery saver), I might just wait and see.
No . I currently own the LG G2 (having had a Moto X 2013 before). I liked how compact the old moto x was and have been disappointed with this year's flagships (HTC, LG, Samsung) for going larger but not superpowered relative to the LG G2 and Nexus 5.
The X2 is bigger in every dimension compared to the G2 (and I found that 2.8" width was my breaking point where I no longer like holding phones... why I downgraded from the LG G3 to LG G2) with a smaller battery and similiar power. The AMOLED screen will be great for battery life with notifications. The software updates seem really good and leave me more confident that post-Google Motorola won't fall off a cliff. The speakers aren't my thing. The additional mics aren't either (as I never leave my phone far from me in a crowded room. The camera looks very good as it seems like they fixed a weak area of
I think I'll be targeting slightly smaller phones for now (in the pre-SD805 days). On my fall list are the Galaxy Alpha, Sony's Z3 Compact and the Xioami Mi4.
i'm very interested in seeing the actual performance of this phone. i have high hopes for the camera and additional functionality they're claiming. all-in-all i'll have to hold it before i make my decision.
Currently a Note 2 user, I was pleased to see the size increase on the Moto X. I'm concerned abotu the battery, though. Right now I'm torn between the Note 4, LG G3, Moto X, and Nexus 6/X.
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No . I currently own the LG G2 (having had a Moto X 2013 before). I liked how compact the old moto x was and have been disappointed with this year's flagships (HTC, LG, Samsung) for going larger but not superpowered relative to the LG G2 and Nexus 5.
The X2 is bigger in every dimension compared to the G2 (and I found that 2.8" width was my breaking point where I no longer like holding phones... why I downgraded from the LG G3 to LG G2) with a smaller battery and similiar power. The AMOLED screen will be great for battery life with notifications. The software updates seem really good and leave me more confident that post-Google Motorola won't fall off a cliff. The speakers aren't my thing. The additional mics aren't either (as I never leave my phone far from me in a crowded room. The camera looks very good as it seems like they fixed a weak area of
I think I'll be targeting slightly smaller phones for now (in the pre-SD805 days). On my fall list are the Galaxy Alpha, Sony's Z3 Compact and the Xioami Mi4.
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According to Joshua from Anandtech even though the Moto X is the same in dimensions to the S5, the Moto X is still much easier to use with one hand because of its design and is similar to use with one hand to LG G2. So you should give it a try, maybe you'll like the size.
Maybe?
Very disappointed to see the increased size, though it was inevitable.. I have been looking forward to this phone for months because of the innovation and engineering that went into the original moto x. Using separate processing elements for different parts of the phone is, I think, the absolute key to the battery life/functionality equation. I've been waiting for a company to split the UI and external features (screen, mics, cameras, etc..) off from the core phone functionality to save juice for a long time. When the screen is off, there should be little need to run the main processor, and therefore it should be kinder to its battery. I do need to know if this unit will have a replaceable battery, unfortunately its a complete no-go for me if it doesn't..
Hoping for the best!:good:
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According to Joshua from Anandtech even though the Moto X is the same in dimensions to the S5, the Moto X is still much easier to use with one hand because of its design and is similar to use with one hand to LG G2. So you should give it a try, maybe you'll like the size.
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Thanks that's useful to hear as that's quite a key requirement for me with a phone.
I was thinking about replacing my rooted GS4 with this one but I wonder whats coming down the pipe from the Nexus and LG
If it comes to Sprint, I will most likely get it.
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If there is a Dev edition then I'll buy immediately.
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If it comes to Sprint, I will most likely get it.
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http://www.androidcentral.com/moto-x-specs-2014 XT1092 unlocked version, including sprint
I like the size increase. I would rather it stayed at 5 inch screen instead of 5.2 but the battery size should have been bumped to 2600. Even if they are going to release a Moto Maxx version with a 3000 battery. Not sure if I will get this now or wait until the Nexus X before I ditch my VZW unlimited for greener pastures.
let us not forget about this filing:
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/07/30/moto-maxx-trademarked-by-motorola-for-new-phone/
seems like the new X might be worth the additional wait. what was the turnaround on features for the X? AT&T had exclusivity until summer '12? Then other carriers got the "plain" variants, followed by MotoMaker almost two months later. Wood backs didn't arrive for... another two months?
if there were a bigger (read: thicker) battery option for the X in the works, are we looking at Jan release?
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let us not forget about this filing:
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/07/30/moto-maxx-trademarked-by-motorola-for-new-phone/
seems like the new X might be worth the additional wait. what was the turnaround on features for the X? AT&T had exclusivity until summer '12? Then other carriers got the "plain" variants, followed by MotoMaker almost two months later. Wood backs didn't arrive for... another two months?
if there were a bigger (read: thicker) battery option for the X in the works, are we looking at Jan release?
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I'll probably wait to see what the next nexus phone is and then make a decision. Hopefully by then, there will be more clarification on what the Moto maXx is . I'd really like a 2014 Moto X with a larger capacity battery. For me that's the only thing it's really missing.
I don't get the battery size concern. I've never once worried about my moto x's battery running out by the end of the day. Motorola knows what they are doing.
the new X is a good 1-2mm thinner than the old one at the edges. i'd say there's room for a 4000mAh battery.
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I don't get the battery size concern. I've never once worried about my moto x's battery running out by the end of the day. Motorola knows what they are doing.
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That's great news for you then.
Way too big for my taste, and I've become a big Moto fan since owning the X. What ever happened to all that research done to come up with the original X being the perfect size? Hope they do a blow out sale on the original X and I'll pick up a spare if the price is good. I understand the trend towards bigger phones, but all the Android manufacturers leaving behind high spec more compact models is VERY disappointing.
Hi all
Does anybody have any idea why they have launched two high end phones? Whats the difference between the two?
which one will you go for?
Im a oneplus user but have a contract upgrade for my office phone so i need to pick a second android.. I like the fact that these have such great battery life but they seem quite similar to me
Let's see ...
The Play is somewhat of a mid-range phone with the Snapdragon 615 and "only" 2GB of RAM.
The Style with its Snapdragon 808 and 3GB of RAM is Motorola's high-end phone this year.
So you have the G 2015 on the low end, Play in the middle and Style at the top - seems logical to me..
moto x style is high end phone in one sim card edition and moto x play is high end phone in two sim card editionand it's not in one sim card
interested in getting the play edition
Don't forget the play's big 3630maH battery (the style is 3000) - it looks like an very well priced phablet sized workhorse and appears to be just what I need to replace my ageing 7 inch budget tablet and my 2013 Moto G. Looking forward to release and some hands on reports.
I think Motorola missed the mark by not releasing the X Play in US, because it's a perfect phone for the working class in US. But I guess there will be an exclusive Verizon version which I will not buy.
Most of my coworkers either have or want a phone like this. They can't afford a $600-700 phone, they have family and take lots of pictures, they want a big screen to share their photos/videos, they need battery life to last the whole day, they don't need some super high end specs or play games on it. Even though I'm in the minority who prefer small screen sizes, I think these affordable, midrange, large screen, big battery phones are a big hit today,
For me this device interest me because of the battery life and CPU, which isn't a power hog, so it will last even longer. 1080p is good, it will make games less demanding to run and still look good on a 5.5" screen. If I have to import this phone, assuming it's $299, it's going to end up costing $350+ after VAT, I might as well get a OnePlus Two for not much more.
I'm partly happy with the Moto X Style specs, since it's the first Moto X that probably won't have crap battery or crap camera, but Motorola decided to make it unpocketable. I guess it makes sense for them to go with the trend, since it will have a better recognition inside carrier stores.
This is a bit of a rant, but I personally am weary of buying a OnePlus again because I have many issues with the previous ones, mostly on the software side that ruin the experience for me. Such as:
All AOSP based OnePus One firmwares (AOSP, CM, Oxygen, etc) lack proper proprietary camera driver in order to have "proper" working continuous autofocus video recording. Only ColorOS roms have proper camera driver, except for some reason I can not install official ColorOS beta on my phone since it won't boot no matter what. You need the official version to get OTA. The latest ColorOS version is hosted on baidu website which required a mainland chinese phone number to sign up to download. Furthermore, ColorOS, while have good features, have bugs of its own and always a version behind. I don't want to end up with the same situation again.
This leave my only other hope with the upcoming Nexus. When I think Nexus, I think poor build quality, weak battery and intentional missing hardware features, unfortunately LG made it seem that way twice already.
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I think Motorola missed the mark by not releasing the X Play in US, because it's a perfect phone for the working class in US. But I guess there will be an exclusive Verizon version which I will not buy.
Most of my coworkers either have or want a phone like this. They can't afford a $600-700 phone, they have family and take lots of pictures, they want a big screen to share their photos/videos, they need battery life to last the whole day, they don't need some super high end specs or play games on it. Even though I'm in the minority who prefer small screen sizes, I think these affordable, midrange, large screen, big battery phones are a big hit today,
For me this device interest me because of the battery life and CPU, which isn't a power hog, so it will last even longer. 1080p is good, it will make games less demanding to run and still look good on a 5.5" screen. If I have to import this phone, assuming it's $299, it's going to end up costing $350+ after VAT, I might as well get a OnePlus Two for not much more.
I'm partly happy with the Moto X Style specs, since it's the first Moto X that probably won't have crap battery or crap camera, but Motorola decided to make it unpocketable. I guess it makes sense for them to go with the trend, since it will have a better recognition inside carrier stores.
This is a bit of a rant, but I personally am weary of buying a OnePlus again because I have many issues with the previous ones, mostly on the software side that ruin the experience for me. Such as:
All AOSP based OnePus One firmwares (AOSP, CM, Oxygen, etc) lack proper proprietary camera driver in order to have "proper" working continuous autofocus video recording. Only ColorOS roms have proper camera driver, except for some reason I can not install official ColorOS beta on my phone since it won't boot no matter what. You need the official version to get OTA. The latest ColorOS version is hosted on baidu website which required a mainland chinese phone number to sign up to download. Furthermore, ColorOS, while have good features, have bugs of its own and always a version behind. I don't want to end up with the same situation again.
This leave my only other hope with the upcoming Nexus. When I think Nexus, I think poor build quality, weak battery and intentional missing hardware features, unfortunately LG made it seem that way twice already.
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The US got the droid turbo didn't they? I don't know how cheap it is or whether its locked to a certain provider or what but the specs on it are a beast in comparison to the play - could potentially be the reason why they didn't release the play in the US.
Also, curious - how small are your pockets for the moto x style being too small to pocket? I remember fitting cd players into my jean pockets at one point so either I get gargantuan pockets on my jeans or idk :3
Got to agree with you on the nexus - I had the 4 and 5 and I loved them - but bad build quality and battery are what finally made me snap and look at the moto x this year.
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Also, curious - how small are your pockets for the moto x style being too small to pocket? I remember fitting cd players into my jean pockets at one point so either I get gargantuan pockets on my jeans or idk :3
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I have a OnePlus, it does fit in my pocket, but it's very uncomfortable if you walk around with it all day, and it's harder to bend and stretch while it's in there. It's better if it fit in the pocket and not feel like a brick at the sametime.
I thought the moto play and style were the same except the style is the European model
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I thought the moto play and style were the same except the style is the European model
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Nope - the play is a bit smaller, (5.5 vs 5.7 inch screen) has a much bigger battery (3630maH vs 3000maH), lower screen resolution (HD vs Quad HD), less RAM (2GB vs 3GB), lower spec processor (Snapdragon 615 vs 808), has fewer customisation options and is significantly cheaper.
http://www.xda-developers.com/two-new-moto-x-and-new-moto-g-announced-details-inside/
I don't seem to see the X Play as a mid ranged phone at all. It would've been the perfect phone if it was a bit more close to the overall phone size of the X (2014), but it is what it is.
I had several hands-on with the Moto X (2014) and I easily started loving it even if it has 5.2'' and that's relatively big for a phone in my opinion. The only things that keep stopping me to buy it are the 2300mah battery and the not so great camera.
I'm waiting here with my Z1C hoping that the X Play will feel in hand as good as the X (2014) and I can finally upgrade to a Moto.
The other option for me is the Nexus 5 (2015) but I really don't think they'll sport anything close to the Play's battery, as well as no micro-sd slot nor a 21mp camera. Last but not least, build quality.
I'm anxiously waiting for more in-depth reviews on youtube for the X Play.
Exactly my thoughts. Waiting for some more reviews and give them some time to iron out early production defects.
While I do love my Nexus 5, the battery has become a very important factor for me. I can't stand the fact to charge my phone every day.
They should just call it the Moto P (or something), having 2 completely different phones under the same "root" letter and than add some meaningless word at the end really ruins the beautiful simplicity of Moto branding.
I would really love to ask an Moto exec what were they thinking, it really makes no sense.
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I don't seem to see the X Play as a mid ranged phone at all. It would've been the perfect phone if it was a bit more close to the overall phone size of the X (2014), but it is what it is.
I had several hands-on with the Moto X (2014) and I easily started loving it even if it has 5.2'' and that's relatively big for a phone in my opinion. The only things that keep stopping me to buy it are the 2300mah battery and the not so great camera.
I'm waiting here with my Z1C hoping that the X Play will feel in hand as good as the X (2014) and I can finally upgrade to a Moto.
The other option for me is the Nexus 5 (2015) but I really don't think they'll sport anything close to the Play's battery, as well as no micro-sd slot nor a 21mp camera. Last but not least, build quality.
I'm anxiously waiting for more in-depth reviews on youtube for the X Play.
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It is midranged - but these days "midrange" is more than sufficient for nearly anyone, and more importantly, the "top end" devices this year are all Cortex-A57 based and that has some serious power efficiency issues.
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The US got the droid turbo didn't they? I don't know how cheap it is or whether its locked to a certain provider or what but the specs on it are a beast in comparison to the play - could potentially be the reason why they didn't release the play in the US.
Also, curious - how small are your pockets for the moto x style being too small to pocket? I remember fitting cd players into my jean pockets at one point so either I get gargantuan pockets on my jeans or idk :3
Got to agree with you on the nexus - I had the 4 and 5 and I loved them - but bad build quality and battery are what finally made me snap and look at the moto x this year.
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Droid Turbo = crippled by Verizon
I really am not keen on anything this year that has a Cortex-A57 core (at least not any handsets) so the X Play was really attractive to me.
My only disadvantages in X Play are:
- no stereo speakers (x style have it)
- no ir (hand movement) sensors (x style have it)
- hd video not 60 fps and no hdr video (x style have it)
- no software video (and photo?) stabilisation (x style have it)
- 2 gb RAM, my 2yr old s4 active has it too (x style have 3gb)
But it has FM Radio, costs little less, swapable back covers in lots of colors, bigger battery and it's little more compact in size and weight. I'm torn between Style and Play
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forgeek said:
Hi all
Does anybody have any idea why they have launched two high end phones? Whats the difference between the two?
which one will you go for?
Im a oneplus user but have a contract upgrade for my office phone so i need to pick a second android.. I like the fact that these have such great battery life but they seem quite similar to me
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They didnt launch 2 high end phones they launched one high end device in the US and we got stuck with a midrange device here in Canada.
And they somehow mixed up the batteries lol. Smaller battery in the device with the bigger higher res screen lol. Its very confusing.
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My only disadvantages in X Play are:
- no stereo speakers (x style have it)
- no ir (hand movement) sensors (x style have it)
- hd video not 60 fps and no hdr video (x style have it)
- no software video (and photo?) stabilisation (x style have it)
- 2 gb RAM, my 2yr old s4 active has it too (x style have 3gb)
But it has FM Radio, costs little less, swapable back covers in lots of colors, bigger battery and it's little more compact in size and weight. I'm torn between Style and Play
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Dont forget only snapdragon 615 and smaller screen also
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Maybe that's for testing which type of phone is more needed: long lasting mid range or less lasting but higher end stylish with more features and selfies oriented? Maybe they're testing us
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I'm debating on what phone to go with, AT&T LG G4 or Moto X pure. I would like to have root and a custom rom along with keeping my mini sd card.
What are the pros and cons with the Moto Pure?
Which one would you choose and why?
For me the only thing I like the G4 is the Camera, the rest is nahh... I have Moto X Pure now and I'm loving it. Btw, not to mention G4s very ugly UI (my opinion).
I would suggest to do a test drive on the phone, if you feel you like it and provide almost all your needs on a daily basis (SMS, calls, skype, camera & etc), you go to which one fits.
I would personally pick the Moto X pure (partly because its what i own).
Moto X pure Pros:
Unlocked- your not stuck with AT&T if you get the pure because it also works on just about all US carriers.
Almost Pure Android- Aside from the couple of additions from Motorola this phone as close to a nexus without it being one.
Big 5.7in QHD Display- it has a very nice 2560x1440( 4x 720p HD) display crammed into 5.7in so its plenty sharp.
MicroSD Card slot- Supports up to 128gb MicroSD cards (official max MicroSD card capacity)
Stereo Front facing speakers- true stereo speakers that face you and get plenty loud.
Customization- Moto maker, colors, woods, leathers, and bamboo (EG. grass not wood) plus accents choices and more. lets you finally get a phone that's a color you want...Mostly.
CHEAP, sort of- At $399 for a base model 16gb, its a great value! $449 for the 32gb and $499 for the 64gb versions. Add $25 if you want a wood (or bamboo) or leather back. Rear engravings don't cost extra.
TURBO CHARGER- comes with a 25w Motorola Turbo charger that can bring your phone from dead to full in about an hour and 15 mins. great when you need a quick top off while you change for a night out after work!
Moto X Pure Cons:
Its BIG- at 5.7in, even with the very slim bezels its still a big phone, not easy to use one handed if you have small hands.
Battery life- the big 3000mah battery is offset with that big QHD display so its not going to be great, just average.
Almost pure Android- you wont be getting any of the neat features that LG bakes into there version of android like mini apps, dual apps, the're AMAZING camera app.
LG G4 Pros:
5.5in QHD Display- Not as big as the moto X pure but still a great, sharp display but a bit easier to manage than the bigger Moto X Pure.
Swappable battery- battery go dead while out and about? just pop in a fresh 3000mah power cell from the bag and your back in business!
LG tweaks- Dual apps, IR blaster, great camera software customizble quick settings. all good features Stock android doesn't have...yet.
MicroSD card support- I don't think I need to explain this one again.
LG G4 Cons:
Locked phone- Cant easily leave AT&T and take the phone with you. Might be able to use on T-Mobile but you out of luck if you want to move to sprint or Verizon.
LG tweaks- LG has useful additions but that also means it could take longer to get updates to newer versions of android because they have to modify android just to put those cool tweaks in there.
Single rear speaker- It might get loud but its still just one and its still facing away from you.
Price?- The 32gb LG G4 with plastic back is $135 more than the 32gb Moto X pure plastic(rubber?). if you go with leather on the LG G4 its $150 more than a 32gb Moto X Pure with leather (or wood/bamboo)
Those are all of the main pros and cons to each phone that I can think off right now. I used to have the LG G3 before and my buddy let me play with his LG G4 and its not all that different from the G3 before it so thats where some of my information is based off of for the LG G4.
Prices showen are from Motorolas website and AT&T website for LG G4 prices.
Hope this helps.
If you're looking for develoment, go with the MXP. The G4 has little to no development. There are rumors that a bootloader unlock is coming, but it's been so long now, that I think potential developers have moved on.
On my G4 I loved the screen and camera. That's it, the moto x is better in every way besides camera and screen. I really miss the deep blacks on the G4. The cameras on the moto x are pretty close so I don't miss the camera much. Just the G4 is better at low light but it's not a big deal. The moto x is faster, cleaner, smoother, faster updates, better build quality, bigger screen, front facing speakers
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I would personally pick the Moto X pure (partly because its what i own).
Moto X pure Pros:
Unlocked- your not stuck with AT&T if you get the pure because it also works on just about all US carriers.
Almost Pure Android- Aside from the couple of additions from Motorola this phone as close to a nexus without it being one.
Big 5.7in QHD Display- it has a very nice 2560x1440( 4x 720p HD) display crammed into 5.7in so its plenty sharp.
MicroSD Card slot- Supports up to 128gb MicroSD cards (official max MicroSD card capacity)
Stereo Front facing speakers- true stereo speakers that face you and get plenty loud.
Customization- Moto maker, colors, woods, leathers, and bamboo (EG. grass not wood) plus accents choices and more. lets you finally get a phone that's a color you want...Mostly.
CHEAP, sort of- At $399 for a base model 16gb, its a great value! $449 for the 32gb and $499 for the 64gb versions. Add $25 if you want a wood (or bamboo) or leather back. Rear engravings don't cost extra.
TURBO CHARGER- comes with a 25w Motorola Turbo charger that can bring your phone from dead to full in about an hour and 15 mins. great when you need a quick top off while you change for a night out after work!
Moto X Pure Cons:
Its BIG- at 5.7in, even with the very slim bezels its still a big phone, not easy to use one handed if you have small hands.
Battery life- the big 3000mah battery is offset with that big QHD display so its not going to be great, just average.
Almost pure Android- you wont be getting any of the neat features that LG bakes into there version of android like mini apps, dual apps, the're AMAZING camera app.
LG G4 Pros:
5.5in QHD Display- Not as big as the moto X pure but still a great, sharp display but a bit easier to manage than the bigger Moto X Pure.
Swappable battery- battery go dead while out and about? just pop in a fresh 3000mah power cell from the bag and your back in business!
LG tweaks- Dual apps, IR blaster, great camera software customizble quick settings. all good features Stock android doesn't have...yet.
MicroSD card support- I don't think I need to explain this one again.
LG G4 Cons:
Locked phone- Cant easily leave AT&T and take the phone with you. Might be able to use on T-Mobile but you out of luck if you want to move to sprint or Verizon.
LG tweaks- LG has useful additions but that also means it could take longer to get updates to newer versions of android because they have to modify android just to put those cool tweaks in there.
Single rear speaker- It might get loud but its still just one and its still facing away from you.
Price?- The 32gb LG G4 with plastic back is $135 more than the 32gb Moto X pure plastic(rubber?). if you go with leather on the LG G4 its $150 more than a 32gb Moto X Pure with leather (or wood/bamboo)
Those are all of the main pros and cons to each phone that I can think off right now. I used to have the LG G3 before and my buddy let me play with his LG G4 and its not all that different from the G3 before it so thats where some of my information is based off of for the LG G4.
Prices showen are from Motorolas website and AT&T website for LG G4 prices.
Hope this helps.
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The only pros for g4 are removable battery (...but my MXP gets better battery life and turbocharging speed makes up for lack of removable battery) and lowlight/manual camera. There is pretty much no other area that the G4 outshines the MXP.
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The only pros for g4 are removable battery (...but my MXP gets better battery life and turbocharging speed makes up for lack of removable battery) and lowlight/manual camera. There is pretty much no other area that the G4 outshines the MXP.
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I have to disagree, as I stated above the screen out shines the MXP. Darker and vivid almost like a IPS LCD panel and AMOLED panel had a baby. MXP might be a tad brighter. But the software is far better on the MXP
Having had both (although I had the T-Mobile G4) I'd have to say the get the X. Both are great, but for me I prefer stock Android. If you do opt for the G4 I'd recommend that you try and score the international version ... Having gone from the Nexus 6 to the G4 and now to the MXPE I am done with carrier devices! So much bloat and unnecessary interference ...
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Having had both (although I had the T-Mobile G4) I'd have to say the get the X. Both are great, but for me I prefer stock Android. If you do opt for the G4 I'd recommend that you try and score the international version ... Having gone from the Nexus 6 to the G4 and now to the MXPE I am done with carrier devices! So much bloat and unnecessary interference ...
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couldn't agree more, in fact in some places the unlocked version is cheaper than the AT&T version (G4) and they have the same LTE bands, for example when I owned the G4 it had the touch issues, the international one got an update that fixed it, it took months for the AT&T version to get it (literately just a couple days ago). Don't do that to yourself. Never again AT&T, never again
Not to mention locked bootloader....
My Moto X 2013 is coming up on 3 years old, and thinking about replacing it. Was considering the Moto Z Play Droid (I'm on Verizon) for $408, but then I saw that the Moto X Pure is available for $289 ($349 for 64GB).
So, how do these compare in your minds? Any opinions?
SD 625 vs. 808
Battery (Z play looks huge)
Micro-USB vs. USB-C
Screen
Moto Mods (Don't think I'd use any now, but...)
I have to say, for the price, The MXPE looks like a great value.
The regular Z and Z Force are more than I want to spend on a phone.
With some of the pricing you see out there right now the MPXE 2015 is about one of the greatest price/performance/deals going. You can easily pay another $200-$300 and not get much more.
Wait for the new Pixel phones to appear from Google and I'm sure you'll be able to bag a deal on a Nexus 5x, which has far greater support here on XDA than this Moto X Pure/Style,which is quite poor in comparison.
for moto mod, I might think abt z play
lmulli said:
Wait for the new Pixel phones to appear from Google and I'm sure you'll be able to bag a deal on a Nexus 5x, which has far greater support here on XDA than this Moto X Pure/Style,which is quite poor in comparison.
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As a blanket statement that's kind of silly. The two devices are competitive but the Moto X has a larger and much higher resolution display, more RAM, a metal frame, and SD card expansion capability. The Nexus 5X maximum storage capacity is only 32 GB and non-expandible, and unfortunately that put it out of the running for me at first glance.
clark phone
if development is your desire, nexus line up is it, love my clark and finally have it where I like it, but support is limited, custom kernels other than frankenclark (stock or stock based roms only)
the external SD card, screen resolution and overall specs where what moved me to buy one.
I have a pile of other phones, my shamu (nexus 6) is my favorite after this one, I like big screens. I can tell you without ALOT of tweaking ALL CM and AOSP roms ran HOT on my clark, stock with frankenclark and script mods are running great. My nexus on the other hand seldom ever ran hot and I had a pile of custom kernels etc I could play with.
Would I buy a clark (moto x style pure) if I had it to do over again or wait on the pixel, honestly maybe not a clark but I would not do the pixel either.
development is huge if your a flashaholic if your not just get one that does what you want and does it well.
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As a blanket statement that's kind of silly. The two devices are competitive but the Moto X has a larger and much higher resolution display, more RAM, a metal frame, and SD card expansion capability. The Nexus 5X maximum storage capacity is only 32 GB and non-expandible, and unfortunately that put it out of the running for me at first glance.
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It's all about being able to keep up to date and have up to date custom roms and kernels, which unfortunately, this device doesn't really have. Each to their own I guess. I have both devices and generally only use the N5x with the Moto X Style as a spare in the car.
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As a blanket statement that's kind of silly. The two devices are competitive but the Moto X has a larger and much higher resolution display, more RAM, a metal frame, and SD card expansion capability. The Nexus 5X maximum storage capacity is only 32 GB and non-expandible, and unfortunately that put it out of the running for me at first glance.
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yeah i agree. i have a 64 gig moto x with 64 mem card