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Get a Moto X 2014.
The Nexus 6 is built by Motorola and its basically just a blown up version of the Moto X 2014.
What's the differences between the 2 phones?
Moto X 2014 -
5.2" Display
Snapdragon 801
2gb Ram
1080p (423ppi)
2300 mAh Battery
5.08 oz (144 g)
Nexus 6 -
6" Display
Snapdragon 805
3gb Ram
1440p (493ppi)
3220 mAh Battery
Optical Image Stabilization (OIS)
6.49 oz (184 g)
Everything else (from what I understand) is the same!
Yes you're not getting the exact same specs shrunk down into the smaller Moto X but it's more in-line with what a lot of people think a "nexus device should be".
Moderate Specs, Moderate pricing and Stock android.
Here's a size comparison if anyone is interested:
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Who has money to buy a moto x 2014, buys a n5 and keeps some money. Moto X does not worth the money.
My op.
N5 should satisfy everyone that wants price/quality, and don't want bricks.
N5
eAsyy said:
Who has money to buy a moto x 2014, buys a n5 and keeps some money. Moto X does not worth the money.
My op.
N5 should satisfy everyone that wants price/quality, and don't want bricks.
N5
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The N5 is a great device no doubt but the Moto X follows the exact same design language as the N6 which imo is an overall a more premium feeling device with better specs
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The biggest problem with the Motorola Moto X 2014 is the battery size.
If it was 3000 mAh, it would be a worthy alternative.
Specs wise, Snapdragon 805 and 800 and 801 are pretty simmilar ,unless you playe games a lot.
eAsyy said:
Who has money to buy a moto x 2014, buys a n5 and keeps some money. Moto X does not worth the money.
My op.
N5 should satisfy everyone that wants price/quality, and don't want bricks.
N5
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Agreed, there's a larger gap here in Canada between the Nexus 5 at $350 and Moto X at $600 than the X and Nexus 6 which is $750.
I'm unsure of American Moto X prices.
Droid Turbo will be released tomorrow. This should satisfy many of those who want same specs as N6 on a smaller phone.
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Droid Turbo will be released tomorrow. This should satisfy many of those who want same specs as N6 on a smaller phone.
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In the US...
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In the US...
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And only on Verizon. And it will have a locked bootloader.
For you GSM guys though, it went through the FCC not too long ago with GSM bands. Rumor is that it will be released as the "Moto X Play" or "Moto Maxx" , two names that Motorola trademarked this year.
The only glaring difference here is the Nexus is a developer device, and supported directly by Google.
IMO get the Nexus 6, or Nexus 5 if the 6 is too big. The only carrier left out in that case is VZW, but that's not something new.
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The biggest problem with the Motorola Moto X 2014 is the battery size.
If it was 3000 mAh, it would be a worthy alternative.
Specs wise, Snapdragon 805 and 800 and 801 are pretty simmilar ,unless you playe games a lot.
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Not really that big a problem. It lasts longer than the N5 did. In almost every way is the x better than the n5.
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Not really that big a problem. It lasts longer than the N5 did. In almost every way is the x better than the n5.
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Not really my point.
It may last longer than the N5, but it still does not counter my argument that its 2300 mAh looks unimpressive. My phone from 2012 had 2150 mAh.
Regarddless of efficient it might be, the screen will consume battery no matter how efficient the system runs, and thats why I think that 2300 mAh is too little.
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Not really that big a problem. It lasts longer than the N5 did. In almost every way is the x better than the n5.
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My limited experience with the X says different. But maybe that limited experience is why. Also, many reviews don't put the battery life any better than on the N5. Some even less. This is personal preference but the screen on the N5 is much much nicer than the amoled panel on the X2014
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Not really my point.
It may last longer than the N5, but it still does not counter my argument that its 2300 mAh looks unimpressive. My phone from 2012 had 2150 mAh.
Regarddless of efficient it might be, the screen will consume battery no matter how efficient the system runs, and thats why I think that 2300 mAh is too little.
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Why does it matter if something looks unimpressive when it performs better? Real world performance is what matters in the end...
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My limited experience with the X says different. But maybe that limited experience is why. Also, many reviews don't put the battery life any better than on the N5. Some even less. This is personal preference but the screen on the N5 is much much nicer than the amoled panel on the X2014
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But if you don't like Amoled then you probably weren't gonna get a N6 either? N6 and MotoX but are amoled displays
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Everything else (from what I understand) is the same!
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lol. So, most everything about the phone is different. Gotchya
Those of you put off by the size...
What are you still doing here? This is a Nexus 6 forum. The Nexus 6 Specs are finalised and there will be no 5 inch, removeable battery, sd card slot, nexus that you were hoping for.
So why is this forum still full of people dying to have their say about how the Nexus is TOO BIG? I'm getting pretty tired of reading the same stuff over and over again. If you don't like the Nexus 6 and have no interest in purchasing one, Please leave this forum for those of us who do.
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Those of you put off by the size...
What are you still doing here? This is a Nexus 6 forum. The Nexus 6 Specs are finalised and there will be no 5 inch, removeable battery, sd card slot, nexus that you were hoping for.
So why is this forum still full of people dying to have their say about how the Nexus is TOO BIG? I'm getting pretty tired of reading the same stuff over and over again. If you don't like the Nexus 6 and have no interest in purchasing one, Please leave this forum for those of us who do.
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they are holding onto hope it comes with super shrinking feature that's a hidden easter egg in lollipop
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Those of you put off by the size...
What are you still doing here? This is a Nexus 6 forum. The Nexus 6 Specs are finalised and there will be no 5 inch, removeable battery, sd card slot, nexus that you were hoping for.
So why is this forum still full of people dying to have their say about how the Nexus is TOO BIG? I'm getting pretty tired of reading the same stuff over and over again. If you don't like the Nexus 6 and have no interest in purchasing one, Please leave this forum for those of us who do.
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Perhaps those people are intrigued to see what other peoples opinions are on it?
I have always been a Nexus guy, but this year I've been disappointed by Google with the screen size. Yeah sure, some people want a big 6" screen but for practical everyday use a lot of people want something a bit smaller - between 4.5" and 5".
I took the plunge and have gone over to the dark side and got myself and iPhone 6. I love it, it does everything an average phone user wants.
It has a decent size screen that looks beautiful in all conditions. Plus there are little extra quirks like 1080p at 60FPS and slow motion video at 240FPS. TouchID in a way that nobody else has managed to beat yet.
I think realistically the Nexus 6 and Lollipop both look amazing and I will be doing my normal thing and watching these forums to see what people do with them but I just can't imagine having to use a phone that big daily.
I will happily go on record and say that I'm sure within 1 - 2 months of owning the Nexus 6 some of you will be fed up with how big it is.
Wow. Thanks for letting me know I'll be fed up with my TOO BIG Nexus. Thanks for proving my point.
I am on the fence about it. I think the hardware improvements for the Nexus 6 are worth it's price, they are all the things I want:
-OIS camera with better sensor
-big enough battery for 5hours screen on time (not possible with my Moto X 2014 unless I use it conservatively)
-wireless charging
-stereo speakers
-all US carriers support
I might hold of preordering the Nexus 6 like I thought I would and wait for some of the reviews, but I know eventually I will likely buy one.
I love the Moto X, but I'm not as impressed with the 2014 version as I should be because they lack the aforementioned features. I just switched to the Moto X 2013 for a couple days and I'm really happy with what it offered for the price, I feel like I could live with the 2013 version. If the 2014 X had all the hardwares features of the Nexus 6 and cost $650 as well, it probably would be better for me.
If I buy the Nexus 6, I would use it as a tablet and backup device, it definitely will not be my daily driver. So I wouldn't be fully utilizing it.
So right now there isn't yet a perfect device for me. I want a phone with Motorola features and design with flagship hardwares, but not phablet size. I guess I have to wait to see what the Moto X 2015 will be like. If it's going to be a 5.5" screen I wouldn't be happy about it (unless they manage to have almost no bezel), it would be a begrudging upgrade, in that case I would get a used Nexus 6.
Hi all
Does anybody have any idea why they have launched two high end phones? Whats the difference between the two?
which one will you go for?
Im a oneplus user but have a contract upgrade for my office phone so i need to pick a second android.. I like the fact that these have such great battery life but they seem quite similar to me
Let's see ...
The Play is somewhat of a mid-range phone with the Snapdragon 615 and "only" 2GB of RAM.
The Style with its Snapdragon 808 and 3GB of RAM is Motorola's high-end phone this year.
So you have the G 2015 on the low end, Play in the middle and Style at the top - seems logical to me..
moto x style is high end phone in one sim card edition and moto x play is high end phone in two sim card editionand it's not in one sim card
interested in getting the play edition
Don't forget the play's big 3630maH battery (the style is 3000) - it looks like an very well priced phablet sized workhorse and appears to be just what I need to replace my ageing 7 inch budget tablet and my 2013 Moto G. Looking forward to release and some hands on reports.
I think Motorola missed the mark by not releasing the X Play in US, because it's a perfect phone for the working class in US. But I guess there will be an exclusive Verizon version which I will not buy.
Most of my coworkers either have or want a phone like this. They can't afford a $600-700 phone, they have family and take lots of pictures, they want a big screen to share their photos/videos, they need battery life to last the whole day, they don't need some super high end specs or play games on it. Even though I'm in the minority who prefer small screen sizes, I think these affordable, midrange, large screen, big battery phones are a big hit today,
For me this device interest me because of the battery life and CPU, which isn't a power hog, so it will last even longer. 1080p is good, it will make games less demanding to run and still look good on a 5.5" screen. If I have to import this phone, assuming it's $299, it's going to end up costing $350+ after VAT, I might as well get a OnePlus Two for not much more.
I'm partly happy with the Moto X Style specs, since it's the first Moto X that probably won't have crap battery or crap camera, but Motorola decided to make it unpocketable. I guess it makes sense for them to go with the trend, since it will have a better recognition inside carrier stores.
This is a bit of a rant, but I personally am weary of buying a OnePlus again because I have many issues with the previous ones, mostly on the software side that ruin the experience for me. Such as:
All AOSP based OnePus One firmwares (AOSP, CM, Oxygen, etc) lack proper proprietary camera driver in order to have "proper" working continuous autofocus video recording. Only ColorOS roms have proper camera driver, except for some reason I can not install official ColorOS beta on my phone since it won't boot no matter what. You need the official version to get OTA. The latest ColorOS version is hosted on baidu website which required a mainland chinese phone number to sign up to download. Furthermore, ColorOS, while have good features, have bugs of its own and always a version behind. I don't want to end up with the same situation again.
This leave my only other hope with the upcoming Nexus. When I think Nexus, I think poor build quality, weak battery and intentional missing hardware features, unfortunately LG made it seem that way twice already.
eksasol said:
I think Motorola missed the mark by not releasing the X Play in US, because it's a perfect phone for the working class in US. But I guess there will be an exclusive Verizon version which I will not buy.
Most of my coworkers either have or want a phone like this. They can't afford a $600-700 phone, they have family and take lots of pictures, they want a big screen to share their photos/videos, they need battery life to last the whole day, they don't need some super high end specs or play games on it. Even though I'm in the minority who prefer small screen sizes, I think these affordable, midrange, large screen, big battery phones are a big hit today,
For me this device interest me because of the battery life and CPU, which isn't a power hog, so it will last even longer. 1080p is good, it will make games less demanding to run and still look good on a 5.5" screen. If I have to import this phone, assuming it's $299, it's going to end up costing $350+ after VAT, I might as well get a OnePlus Two for not much more.
I'm partly happy with the Moto X Style specs, since it's the first Moto X that probably won't have crap battery or crap camera, but Motorola decided to make it unpocketable. I guess it makes sense for them to go with the trend, since it will have a better recognition inside carrier stores.
This is a bit of a rant, but I personally am weary of buying a OnePlus again because I have many issues with the previous ones, mostly on the software side that ruin the experience for me. Such as:
All AOSP based OnePus One firmwares (AOSP, CM, Oxygen, etc) lack proper proprietary camera driver in order to have "proper" working continuous autofocus video recording. Only ColorOS roms have proper camera driver, except for some reason I can not install official ColorOS beta on my phone since it won't boot no matter what. You need the official version to get OTA. The latest ColorOS version is hosted on baidu website which required a mainland chinese phone number to sign up to download. Furthermore, ColorOS, while have good features, have bugs of its own and always a version behind. I don't want to end up with the same situation again.
This leave my only other hope with the upcoming Nexus. When I think Nexus, I think poor build quality, weak battery and intentional missing hardware features, unfortunately LG made it seem that way twice already.
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The US got the droid turbo didn't they? I don't know how cheap it is or whether its locked to a certain provider or what but the specs on it are a beast in comparison to the play - could potentially be the reason why they didn't release the play in the US.
Also, curious - how small are your pockets for the moto x style being too small to pocket? I remember fitting cd players into my jean pockets at one point so either I get gargantuan pockets on my jeans or idk :3
Got to agree with you on the nexus - I had the 4 and 5 and I loved them - but bad build quality and battery are what finally made me snap and look at the moto x this year.
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Also, curious - how small are your pockets for the moto x style being too small to pocket? I remember fitting cd players into my jean pockets at one point so either I get gargantuan pockets on my jeans or idk :3
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I have a OnePlus, it does fit in my pocket, but it's very uncomfortable if you walk around with it all day, and it's harder to bend and stretch while it's in there. It's better if it fit in the pocket and not feel like a brick at the sametime.
I thought the moto play and style were the same except the style is the European model
smalltownbird said:
I thought the moto play and style were the same except the style is the European model
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Nope - the play is a bit smaller, (5.5 vs 5.7 inch screen) has a much bigger battery (3630maH vs 3000maH), lower screen resolution (HD vs Quad HD), less RAM (2GB vs 3GB), lower spec processor (Snapdragon 615 vs 808), has fewer customisation options and is significantly cheaper.
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I don't seem to see the X Play as a mid ranged phone at all. It would've been the perfect phone if it was a bit more close to the overall phone size of the X (2014), but it is what it is.
I had several hands-on with the Moto X (2014) and I easily started loving it even if it has 5.2'' and that's relatively big for a phone in my opinion. The only things that keep stopping me to buy it are the 2300mah battery and the not so great camera.
I'm waiting here with my Z1C hoping that the X Play will feel in hand as good as the X (2014) and I can finally upgrade to a Moto.
The other option for me is the Nexus 5 (2015) but I really don't think they'll sport anything close to the Play's battery, as well as no micro-sd slot nor a 21mp camera. Last but not least, build quality.
I'm anxiously waiting for more in-depth reviews on youtube for the X Play.
Exactly my thoughts. Waiting for some more reviews and give them some time to iron out early production defects.
While I do love my Nexus 5, the battery has become a very important factor for me. I can't stand the fact to charge my phone every day.
They should just call it the Moto P (or something), having 2 completely different phones under the same "root" letter and than add some meaningless word at the end really ruins the beautiful simplicity of Moto branding.
I would really love to ask an Moto exec what were they thinking, it really makes no sense.
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I don't seem to see the X Play as a mid ranged phone at all. It would've been the perfect phone if it was a bit more close to the overall phone size of the X (2014), but it is what it is.
I had several hands-on with the Moto X (2014) and I easily started loving it even if it has 5.2'' and that's relatively big for a phone in my opinion. The only things that keep stopping me to buy it are the 2300mah battery and the not so great camera.
I'm waiting here with my Z1C hoping that the X Play will feel in hand as good as the X (2014) and I can finally upgrade to a Moto.
The other option for me is the Nexus 5 (2015) but I really don't think they'll sport anything close to the Play's battery, as well as no micro-sd slot nor a 21mp camera. Last but not least, build quality.
I'm anxiously waiting for more in-depth reviews on youtube for the X Play.
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It is midranged - but these days "midrange" is more than sufficient for nearly anyone, and more importantly, the "top end" devices this year are all Cortex-A57 based and that has some serious power efficiency issues.
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The US got the droid turbo didn't they? I don't know how cheap it is or whether its locked to a certain provider or what but the specs on it are a beast in comparison to the play - could potentially be the reason why they didn't release the play in the US.
Also, curious - how small are your pockets for the moto x style being too small to pocket? I remember fitting cd players into my jean pockets at one point so either I get gargantuan pockets on my jeans or idk :3
Got to agree with you on the nexus - I had the 4 and 5 and I loved them - but bad build quality and battery are what finally made me snap and look at the moto x this year.
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Droid Turbo = crippled by Verizon
I really am not keen on anything this year that has a Cortex-A57 core (at least not any handsets) so the X Play was really attractive to me.
My only disadvantages in X Play are:
- no stereo speakers (x style have it)
- no ir (hand movement) sensors (x style have it)
- hd video not 60 fps and no hdr video (x style have it)
- no software video (and photo?) stabilisation (x style have it)
- 2 gb RAM, my 2yr old s4 active has it too (x style have 3gb)
But it has FM Radio, costs little less, swapable back covers in lots of colors, bigger battery and it's little more compact in size and weight. I'm torn between Style and Play
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forgeek said:
Hi all
Does anybody have any idea why they have launched two high end phones? Whats the difference between the two?
which one will you go for?
Im a oneplus user but have a contract upgrade for my office phone so i need to pick a second android.. I like the fact that these have such great battery life but they seem quite similar to me
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They didnt launch 2 high end phones they launched one high end device in the US and we got stuck with a midrange device here in Canada.
And they somehow mixed up the batteries lol. Smaller battery in the device with the bigger higher res screen lol. Its very confusing.
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My only disadvantages in X Play are:
- no stereo speakers (x style have it)
- no ir (hand movement) sensors (x style have it)
- hd video not 60 fps and no hdr video (x style have it)
- no software video (and photo?) stabilisation (x style have it)
- 2 gb RAM, my 2yr old s4 active has it too (x style have 3gb)
But it has FM Radio, costs little less, swapable back covers in lots of colors, bigger battery and it's little more compact in size and weight. I'm torn between Style and Play
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Dont forget only snapdragon 615 and smaller screen also
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Maybe that's for testing which type of phone is more needed: long lasting mid range or less lasting but higher end stylish with more features and selfies oriented? Maybe they're testing us
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The price is only about $100 more given you keep storage options about the same.
The only downside I see to the Nexus 6P is no SD slot and it costs more. I originally wanted the Moto X since it was affordable, has SD storage and was 5.7inches. The Nexus seems to be a better option with the only downside being no SD storage and it's a bit more expensive, although in my opinion AMOLED is a better screen choice than LCD so the Nexus has that going for it too, and a bigger battery....... Here is what I "think" I know after watching the event.
Nexus 6P
Pros:
USB-C
Larger battery 3450mah vs 3000 mah on the X
Faster software updates
Marshmallow preinstalled
AMOLED screen
Cons:
A little more expensive
no SD card slot.
Moto X Pure(Style)
Pros:
Cheaper
SD Card Slot
Cons:
LCD screen as opposed to AMOLED
Smaller battery 3000mah vs 3450mah
micro USB vs USB-C
Is anyone else struggling with this?
I was struggling until about 3 minutes ago when I ordered a 128GB graphite 6P. I'm honestly still not convinced I actually need to upgrade from my current Nexus 6. Heck I was even going to hold out hope that there might be a DROID with a fat battery and unlockable bootloaders. I love Motorola and their signal is amazing and I'm hoping this is comparable. This will be my 3rd Nexus and my current one is my 4th Motorola. Neither have done me wrong so far. I wish it had a wireless charger but I guess turbo charging is making that obsolete and I have to accept it. Ultimately I said screw it and ordered one. But I used the amex just in case lol.
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The price is only about $100 more given you keep storage options about the same.
The only downside I see to the Nexus 6P is no SD slot and it costs more. I originally wanted the Moto X since it was affordable, has SD storage and was 5.7inches. The Nexus seems to be a better option with the only downside being no SD storage and it's a bit more expensive, although in my opinion AMOLED is a better screen choice than LCD so the Nexus has that going for it too, and a bigger battery....... Here is what I "think" I know after watching the event.
Nexus 6P
Pros:
USB-C
Larger battery 3450mah vs 3000 mah on the X
Faster software updates
Marshmallow preinstalled
AMOLED screen
Cons:
A little more expensive
no SD card slot.
Moto X Pure(Style)
Pros:
Cheaper
SD Card Slot
Cons:
LCD screen as opposed to AMOLED
Smaller battery 3000mah vs 3450mah
micro USB vs USB-C
Is anyone else struggling with this?
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You have to see what type of amoled they put on this. Nexus 6 had amoled but it was crappy amoled.
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You have to see what type of amoled they put on this. Nexus 6 had amoled but it was crappy amoled.
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That's a good point for sure, I just generally feel like most AMOLED's now a days are brighter and crisper than an LCD, plus they are easier on the battery.
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That's a good point for sure, I just generally feel like most AMOLED's now a days are brighter and crisper than an LCD, plus they are easier on the battery.
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From my experience, only amoleds used on samsung flagships are the best. When other manufacturers use amoled, samsung never gives them the top of the line amoled, that's why I believe is best for other manufacturers to go with lcd. Hopefully this amoled is power efficient and has good colors/angels etc.
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I think the nexus 5x would be a better comparison.
Big con for the Moto X Pure(Style), for me is they do not sell it in Canada.
I was on the fence between Moto X Pure, iPhone 6s Plus and Nexus 6p.
Moto X Pure lacks accessories. Almost nothing projected from major case manufacturers.
iPhone 6s Plus on IOS9 has no jailbreak, which means no tethering for me since I have Verizon Unlimited.
Nexus 6p like the iPhone gets dinged for no removable storage, but offer 128GB, which I can live with.
I bought a graphite Nexus 6p.
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I think the nexus 5x would be a better comparison.
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Well, I chose these 2 phones since they are the same size screen and very close specs , the 5x is lower in almost every category, so that's not a good comparison in my .
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Well, I chose these 2 phones since they are the same size screen and very close specs , the 5x is lower in almost every category, so that's not a good comparison in my .
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Care to enlighten me? I don't see how it is "lower" in almost "every category".
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Care to enlighten me? I don't see how it is "lower" in almost "every category".
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Less ram
Smaller screen size
Smaller battery
Less in available storages sizes
Smaller screen resolution
The 6P and moto x are more alike than the moto x and 5x.
No fingerprint scanner on the motox right?
I already own a 64gb, black leather, red accented Moto X Pure, so I'm now debating on selling it and buying the Nexus 6P. Biggest reason why, development on XDA. I'm worried the 6p will over shadow the MXP and fewer developers will put time into releasing roms/mods for the MXP.
I'd love to hear feedback from those that do create roms and extra features for devices. I have no other complaints for the MXP, just fear of its support dying very early.
I had the MXP, but returned it a few days ago. I just wasn't impressed. I'm glad I did, now that I ordered a graphite Nexus 6P.
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I already own a 64gb, black leather, red accented Moto X Pure, so I'm now debating on selling it and buying the Nexus 6P. Biggest reason why, development on XDA. I'm worried the 6p will over shadow the MXP and fewer developers will put time into releasing roms/mods for the MXP.
I'd love to hear feedback from those that do create roms and extra features for devices. I have no other complaints for the MXP, just fear of its support dying very early.
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What do you refer to when you say development? Have you seen nexus 6 forums? Nothing special going on there.
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ambervals6 said:
What do you refer to when you say development? Have you seen nexus 6 forums? Nothing special going on there.
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Nexus 6P. Not last year's nexus.
Nothing special there yet, phone was just announced. The phone already has toolkit though.
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Nexus 6P. Not last year's nexus.
Nothing special there yet, phone was just announced. The phone already has toolkit though.
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I am saying there is lots of hype for development on nexus devices, but since nexus 4, there hasn't been much going on. The days when Paranoid Android team was developing and Moles was with them used to be great. From what I recall a few other teams developed last year, but they didn't bring nothing new.
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My pure is going back to Motorola. Plenty of complaints to read on their forums. OPO until my big P comes in.
I like the XPE but in returning mine as well. The only minus to the 6P is the sd slot and some of the moto features but I gain amoled (which is important to me coming from a note 3), bigger battery, fingerprint scanner and notification led! Also price wise isn't much difference when configured similarly. My XPE with 32gb and wood back was $503 shipped. The 64gb 6P was $583, what I get for the price difference is worth it in my book.
The XPE is a good phone but it's just not the phone for me. As someone else said, the development for the 6p will be huge in comparison to the Motorola. Spigen isn't making any cases for the XPE and neither are many accessory makers. I think the 6P will get all the love I'd hoped the Motorola would get so back it goes!
Avoid Moto, their customer service sucks, it's awful experience dealing with them..
So, Finally the One Plus X has been revealed and India is the first country to receive the phone (Along with UK)
What are your thoughts, and how many people are thinking about jumping on the OnePlus X boat ...?
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Dimensions : 140 x 69 x 6.9 mm (5.51 x 2.72 x 0.27 in)
Weight : 138 g / 160 g (4.87 oz)
SIM :Dual SIM (Nano-SIM, dual stand-by)
Display Type : AMOLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colorsSize 5.0 inches (~71.3% screen-to-body ratio)
Resolution :1080 x 1920 pixels (~441 ppi pixel density)
Protection :Corning Gorilla Glass 3
Chipset :Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 CPU Quad-core 2.3 GHz, GPU Adreno 330
Internal :16 GB, 3 GB RAM
Card slot : microSD, up to 128 GB (uses SIM 2 slot)
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The "A" Factor said:
So, Finally the One Plus X has been revealed and India is the first country to receive the phone (Along with UK)
What are your thoughts, and how many people are thinking about jumping on the OnePlus X
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I'm thinking about buying this phone, but not immediately. In a month or so, I think, when I have money
Plus waiting a month or two makes sense considering there's talk that they'll remove the invite system by then.
Other than that, very excited for this device. Looks absolutely beautiful. Sure, its similar to the Xperia design, but that doesn't make it bad. In fact, I love the design all the more for it.
The SD801 is a fine choice I think. It still performs very well. And I wasn't really expecting the 808 or 805 for this price anyway. NFC isn't essential at all, imho, here in India. Rest of the specs look good too. And the 5' display is plenty big for my small hands.
And the main point to be considered - the development scene. Both the OPO and the OPT have good dev backing, and I'm hoping this device will as well. I'll be keeping an eye on the forums to stay updated about the development, the coming month or so should give a better idea in that respect.
But even so, I'll say I'm pretty locked about this phone, its ticking all the right boxes for me.
Hope I get this baby soon :fingers-crossed:
So I was fixated on buying the Moto X Style until yesterday ... (OnePlus 2 has that frying hot 810, so had to eliminate it).
But then seeing the OnePlus X , I'm almost inclined toward buying this over Moto X Style ...
The major reason being :
1.Manageable size (5 inch is just perfect)
2.Micro Sd card slot
3.AMOLED display
4.Very Very Cheap !!!
The major disadvantage that I see here, over the Moto X Style is that
1. It doesn't have service centers as good as Motorola
2. The compromise that users are forced to make, either choose 2 sims or 1 sim + Sd-card .
3. Lack of storage options (Only 16 gigs).
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So I was fixated on buying the Moto X Style until yesterday ... (OnePlus 2 has that frying hot 810, so had to eliminate it).
But then seeing the OnePlus X , I'm almost inclined toward buying this over Moto X Style ...
The major reason being :
1.Manageable size (5 inch is just perfect)
2.Micro Sd card slot
3.AMOLED display
4.Very Very Cheap !!!
The major disadvantage that I see here, over the Moto X Style is that
1. It doesn't have service centers as good as Motorola
2. The compromise that users are forced to make, either choose 2 sims or 1 sim + Sd-card .
3. Lack of storage options (Only 16 gigs).
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Right, I'm a little worried about their after sales service as well. Do you happen to know if they have any service centers around NCR?
Other than that, I personally use just one sim, so I don't mind that much. And 16gb storage is ok too, since I can just use a micro-sd card along with the one sim I have. But I agree, that is kind of a workaround and I can see 16gb being very less for people much more media-centric than me. They should have provided more storage options.
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Right, I'm a little worried about their after sales service as well. Do you happen to know if they have any service centers around NCR?
Other than that, I personally use just one sim, so I don't mind that much. And 16gb storage is ok too, since I can just use a micro-sd card along with the one sim I have. But I agree, that is kind of a workaround and I can see 16gb being very less for people much more media-centric than me. They should have provided more storage options.
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It's not about being media centric any more .... The thing is now the google apps have become much bigger and are producing large amount of Cache data for analytics and making our user experience faster .
Even on lollipop on my moto g (AOSP based rom), the cache data generated in one month was around 1 GB with bare minimal apps.
Plus the Moto X Pure is getting just 8 GB usable memory in 16 gigs version !!! 8 gigs is too less according to me,even if you want to use atleast 40% features/apps of a smart phone (email,photo's and stuff) .
But Marshmallow is introducing new Memory feature, which enable users to club the internal memory and the Sd-Card , but then the speed of Sd-Card can never match the speed of internal memory,so there will be a slight delay in opening apps ....
Storage is always a subjective feature, but then again it's good to be a bit future proof than living on edge ... That being said I don't think there will be any major disadvantage ... thanks to new Marshmallow Memory management option !
hell yeah!!!i am getting this device!finally a 5" phone!i will cry now...but are you sure only 16gb internal model?:/
EDITh,only 16 gig version :/..okay,btw that glass at the back is also a gorilla glass?or just a simple glass?
one plus x vs xiomi mi4
hi!
can anyone suggest which one is a better buy, one plus x or mi4? considering after sales services of both and the fact that mi4 is going to be sold at a reduced price on 3-5 nov. (both of them are way similar in specs except amoled display and sd card support in the X).
thanx in advance!
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hi!
can anyone suggest which one is a better buy, one plus x or mi4? considering after sales services of both and the fact that mi4 is going to be sold at a reduced price on 3-5 nov. (both of them are way similar in specs except amoled display and sd card support in the X).
thanx in advance!
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mi4 is an incredible device but the problem is the software..it is still running on 4.4 and that too is buggy(miui has lots of bugs) and i have no idea and nor i think,you will ever get a STABLE marshmallow(though there is official cm12.1 right now).
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mi4 is an incredible device but the problem is the software..it is still running on 4.4 and that too is buggy(miui has lots of bugs) and i have no idea and nor i think,you will ever get a STABLE marshmallow(though there is official cm12.1 right now).
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considering the kernel source of mi4 has been released there's been an incredible developers team supporting it! even my galaxy grand duos has a marshmallow build(with some bugs, only single sim working), so there is a very high probability tht mi4 WILL get marshmallow and i'm planning to install cm12.1 on day 1.
my main concern is the after sales services, or lack thereof, of one plus!
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hell yeah!!!i am getting this device!finally a 5" phone!i will cry now...but are you sure only 16gb internal model?:/
EDITh,only 16 gig version :/..okay,btw that glass at the back is also a gorilla glass?or just a simple glass?
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as far as i know its Gorrila 3
Does one plus x has a finger print reader like OP2?
RohanM said:
Does one plus x has a finger print reader like OP2?
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no
Mine is arriving today!
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Mine is arriving today!
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please give us some review after you use the device.?
Apparently some users are reporting SD card read issue.
Does OnePlus X have LTE on both sims? Not that I'm going to use two, I'll need the slot for SD card. Just wondering.
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please give us some review after you use the device.?
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Pretty darn solid device. Never heats up. There was a software update right out of the box. Camera is better than expected. Will try some outdoor photos in daylight tomorrow. The cover/case provided is not cheap.. but soft.. and should provide ample protection. Speaker sound is good. Overall, a brilliant phone.
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Does OnePlus X have LTE on both sims? Not that I'm going to use two, I'll need the slot for SD card. Just wondering.
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I believe LTE is not the sim card "slot" dependent, but on the phone's hardware. As they've been advertising it as an LTE phone, it should support it on both SIMs.
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Also, phone arrived today
Waiting for nano sim so i can start using it as a daily driver ASAP.
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Pretty darn solid device. Never heats up. There was a software update right out of the box. Camera is better than expected. Will try some outdoor photos in daylight tomorrow. The cover/case provided is not cheap.. but soft.. and should provide ample protection. Speaker sound is good. Overall, a brilliant phone.
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okay what about the back part of phone?i am scared that it will break..does that feels tough?someone said it's a gg3(i don't want to use a cover?).
hacksome said:
Pretty darn solid device. Never heats up. There was a software update right out of the box. Camera is better than expected. Will try some outdoor photos in daylight tomorrow. The cover/case provided is not cheap.. but soft.. and should provide ample protection. Speaker sound is good. Overall, a brilliant phone.
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Hi! Can you tell us if you faced any sd card issue with your device?
Apologies for the length of this reply. TL;DR - Moto G 3rd gen vs. Moto X Play - taking into account the extra $200 for the X Play, which would you recommend and why?
Longer version:
Had an accident with my Moto G2 last week (fell in the sink and fried the motherboard) and am now looking for a new phone.
I could get the Moto G for $0 or the X Play for ~ $200 (both carrier locked).
The main issues I had with my old Moto G2 were: a) the RAM; b) Internal Storage. I was constantly losing my audio playback (podcast) when running Waze simultaneously driving in the car and the phone just often seemed laggy in general. Also, I was constantly running out of space to install apps (particularly due to a couple of very large games).
Given that the new Moto G has the same 1 GB of RAM and 8 GB of internal storage (at least here in Canada; would have really appreciated the 2/16 option that they have in the US), would I be likely to experience the same frustrations or would the performance be significantly better due to: a) better CPU; and b) Marshmallow [I was running Lollipop 5.0.2 on the old phone], which allows for use of SD card as internal storage?
My concerns with the X Play (other than the additional cost) are:
1) Durability - the Moto G has enhanced water resistance and is easier to grip (from what I've read)
2) Size - Moto X Play seems larger but I'm not sure how much of a difference it would be coming from the G2 ...
Any suggestions?
Personally I would never go back to a 1 GB phone (I used to have the original 2013 Moto G). Perhaps performance is better now with the 3rd Gen but having used 2 GB... I also had an Xperia Z from 2013 but it had 2 GB as well and there were no issues with apps closing like I had on my G.
So my pick would be the Play. However, what other choices do you have for that price?
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Personally I would never go back to a 1 GB phone (I used to have the original 2013 Moto G). Perhaps performance is better now with the 3rd Gen but having used 2 GB... I also had an Xperia Z from 2013 but it had 2 GB as well and there were no issues with apps closing like I had on my G.
So my pick would be the Play. However, what other choices do you have for that price?
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Hi! Thanks for the quick reply.
Here are the devices available from my carrier (Wind Mobile) at these price points (price is what I would pay out of pocket - rest is covered by $250 tab):
Galaxy S4 - $200
Xperia C5 Ultra - $150
LG G Stylo - $100
Xperia M4 Aqua - $50
Ascend G7 - $50
Moto G (3rd) - $0
HTC Desire 626s - $0
Galaxy Grand Prime - $0
Thanks again!
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Personally I would never go back to a 1 GB phone (I used to have the original 2013 Moto G). Perhaps performance is better now with the 3rd Gen but having used 2 GB... I also had an Xperia Z from 2013 but it had 2 GB as well and there were no issues with apps closing like I had on my G.
So my pick would be the Play. However, what other choices do you have for that price?
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As a follow-up, do you think it would be worth paying an additional $200 for the extra 1 GB of RAM?
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As a follow-up, do you think it would be worth paying an additional $200 for the extra 1 GB of RAM?
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I myself would pay for the extra RAM. My thought would be that memory requirements of both Android and apps is only going to increase and I try to keep my phones as long as possible.
I'm also on Wind so that list of potential phones looks familiar. My personal choice is still the Play.
I've also read that some shipments of Wind's X Plays are already SIM-unlocked but I don't have another carrier SIM to verify that mine is. I do know my Moto G was sold by Wind and it was unlocked because they checked it for me in-store.
You might want to try it out in-store to see if you are ok with the larger size. I don't mind it and prefer it because I'm getting old and my eyes aren't as good as they used to be.
Hi - I decided to try the Play but figured it might be worth a quick phone call - just got off the phone with Wind Loyalty and they added another $150 to the tab, so the phone only cost $49!
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Hi - I decided to try the Play but figured it might be worth a quick phone call - just got off the phone with Wind Loyalty and they added another $150 to the tab, so the phone only cost $49!
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Wow, nice. That makes it a much easier decision then, huh? Nice job, I think you'll be happy with it.
The extra 1gb surely will make a lot of difference. 1gb ram phone is only good if you could put custom rom in it.
I have both devices (and develop CM and my kernel for both) and happen to be on Wind Mobile too. Since they've added some extra to your tab, I suppose your decision has become easier.
If you care about the camera at all, the lux camera is certainly a major improvement over osprey (though osprey is not bad by any means). While the image processing with both the Motorola stock camera app and the CM camera are not up to iPhone standards (colours and dynamic range), detail on lux is amazing in good lighting.
Performance wise, lux (the X Play) will certainly be better, due to the RAM, and also the more powerful processor. Single core performance is a better on lux (more than the difference in clock speeds would indicate, since lux is using faster memory and higher clocked internal busses). The GPU on lux is also much more powerful than that on osprey. I don't know if you care about gaming performance, but lux would certainly be much better than osprey (triple the frame rate for heavy things). One area where you won't notice much difference is UI fluidity. Both run android smoothly without much lag or stutter. Marshmallow is better than Lollipop 5.1 which is better than Lollipop 5.0.
Lux also has a huge battery (but a more power hungry display and processor) - I get around 5-6 hours screen time on osprey, and 7-8 hours on lux.
One area where osprey has an edge is waterproofing (and perhaps overall durability). I've thrown my osprey into the water at a beach when showing off to family and left it in the water for a few minutes. No issues when I did that (though it's not something I recommend obviously). I would not do the same for lux, since it is not waterproof. If you have a habit of dropping your phone, osprey may also be more likely to survive because of its smaller screen.
In terms of in hand quality feel, lux is better than osprey. The body feels more solid, and the dimple at the back of the phone feels nicer. The back cover of my osprey creaks a bit when pressing the edge in some places, and that irks me somewhat. However, neither can match the quality feel of the 2nd gen Moto X (victara).
Size wise, lux is obviously bigger than osprey. Whether or not that's a good thing is down to personal preference. I found lux huge when I bought it (I came from a first gen Moto X). However, I got used to it and now find its size to be normal. However, I still like the in hand feeling of going back to a smaller phone sometimes.
Development wise, I'd consider them about the same. I'm one of the main developers for both devices, though lux is my daily driver right now. The osprey port of CM13 matured a bit sooner than my lux port, but they are both built from a common code base we are using for the entire MSM8916 family.
If there is leftover stock of the previous (2nd gen, victara) Moto X, I would also strongly consider that. Victara has better build quality than either of these, and is significantly faster than either of these. The victara camera is about the same as osprey. The main weakness of victara is battery life. It gives me around 4 hours of screen time.
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I have both devices (and develop CM and my kernel for both) and happen to be on Wind Mobile too. Since they've added some extra to your tab, I suppose your decision has become easier.
If you care about the camera at all, the lux camera is certainly a major improvement over osprey (though osprey is not bad by any means). While the image processing with both the Motorola stock camera app and the CM camera are not up to iPhone standards (colours and dynamic range), detail on lux is amazing in good lighting.
Performance wise, lux (the X Play) will certainly be better, due to the RAM, and also the more powerful processor. Single core performance is a better on lux (more than the difference in clock speeds would indicate, since lux is using faster memory and higher clocked internal busses). The GPU on lux is also much more powerful than that on osprey. I don't know if you care about gaming performance, but lux would certainly be much better than osprey (triple the frame rate for heavy things). One area where you won't notice much difference is UI fluidity. Both run android smoothly without much lag or stutter. Marshmallow is better than Lollipop 5.1 which is better than Lollipop 5.0.
Lux also has a huge battery (but a more power hungry display and processor) - I get around 5-6 hours screen time on osprey, and 7-8 hours on lux.
One area where osprey has an edge is waterproofing (and perhaps overall durability). I've thrown my osprey into the water at a beach when showing off to family and left it in the water for a few minutes. No issues when I did that (though it's not something I recommend obviously). I would not do the same for lux, since it is not waterproof. If you have a habit of dropping your phone, osprey may also be more likely to survive because of its smaller screen.
In terms of in hand quality feel, lux is better than osprey. The body feels more solid, and the dimple at the back of the phone feels nicer. The back cover of my osprey creaks a bit when pressing the edge in some places, and that irks me somewhat. However, neither can match the quality feel of the 2nd gen Moto X (victara).
Size wise, lux is obviously bigger than osprey. Whether or not that's a good thing is down to personal preference. I found lux huge when I bought it (I came from a first gen Moto X). However, I got used to it and now find its size to be normal. However, I still like the in hand feeling of going back to a smaller phone sometimes.
Development wise, I'd consider them about the same. I'm one of the main developers for both devices, though lux is my daily driver right now. The osprey port of CM13 matured a bit sooner than my lux port, but they are both built from a common code base we are using for the entire MSM8916 family.
If there is leftover stock of the previous (2nd gen, victara) Moto X, I would also strongly consider that. Victara has better build quality than either of these, and is significantly faster than either of these. The victara camera is about the same as osprey. The main weakness of victara is battery life. It gives me around 4 hours of screen time.
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Squid,
Thanks very much for the very thorough and detailed review! My two concerns with the X Play are the durability and size but I don't think that these outweigh the other benefits vis a vis osprey. Do you think the size would be a significant factor coming from the 2nd gen Moto G?
Thanks also for the feedback on the 2nd gen Moto X. Their website no longer includes last year's model but I can drop by my local store to see if they have it in stock. Only thing is, they may not apply the additional tab as that was only available if I ordered through the loyalty department over the phone ...
There are several Victaras available used on Kijiji but do you think it's worth paying $250 for a used victara over $50 for a new lux?
Also, the victara lacked a microsd card which is something that I'd like to have ...
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Squid,
Thanks very much for the very thorough and detailed review! My two concerns with the X Play are the durability and size but I don't think that these outweigh the other benefits vis a vis osprey. Do you think the size would be a significant factor coming from the 2nd gen Moto G?
Thanks also for the feedback on the 2nd gen Moto X. Their website no longer includes last year's model but I can drop by my local store to see if they have it in stock. Only thing is, they may not apply the additional tab as that was only available if I ordered through the loyalty department over the phone ...
There are several Victaras available used on Kijiji but do you think it's worth paying $250 for a used victara over $50 for a new lux?
Also, the victara lacked a microsd card which is something that I'd like to have ...
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For $250 used victara vs. $50 new lux, I'd say definitely get the new lux. If you can convince them to apply the same tab to a new lux or a new-old-stock victara, that's a tougher decision.
If you want a big battery and great camera (and MicroSD), go for lux. If you want faster performance and like the sleek metal frame of the victara, go for it. If you are concerned about water damage and want a device you can abuse without feeling too bad, go for osprey.
And if you are insane like me and money is no concern, buy all three. And heck, why not throw in a surnia too
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For $250 used victara vs. $50 new lux, I'd say definitely get the new lux. If you can convince them to apply the same tab to a new lux or a new-old-stock victara, that's a tougher decision.
If you want a big battery and great camera (and MicroSD), go for lux. If you want faster performance and like the sleek metal frame of the victara, go for it. If you are concerned about water damage and want a device you can abuse without feeling too bad, go for osprey.
And if you are insane like me and money is no concern, buy all three. And heck, why not throw in a surnia too
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Damn that are a lot of Moto's
or just get the X Force. I believe it has all the features the lux, victara and osprey combined.
My missus has a 2GB 3rd gen Moto G and i would rather have my MXP, better screen, better battery, better camera, better audio.