using pressure sensor to know if device is still waterproof? - Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

can you use the pressure sensor to know if device is still air tight? like those in xperia z3/compact where if the sensor value rises when applying pressure in display it means it is still waterproof, did anyone test the same on their galaxy S5 that is still waterproof, assuming all flaps are closed just like this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/general/guide-test-waterproofing-water-t2897886

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do magnets damage the screen?

I keep reading about this but has anyone actually damaged their screen from magnets in casings?
I havent used a magnet cover on the galaxy note, but i assume they're similar. And i have never had any problems with the covers ive been using on other phones
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Think I read somewhere a warning about using magnet cover on the Note.
So yes, I asume it can do dmg to screen.
is anyone using those magnet cases by tridea or zenus? How long have you been using, and is the screen affected in any way? How about the response to the spen?
The magnets in these cases are usually too weak to cause any serious damage to the phone. But if you have strong magnet, taking it closer to screen does weird stuff to the screen. Even AMOLED screens. Dont know if its affecting the screen directly or other parts that causes the issue, but it definitely has some unwanted effect on the phone.
But I am yet to see any case with magnetic clip / cover causing any damage or unwanted behavior.
what about the s-pen layer in the screen? maybe that is more sensitive to magnets...
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I used a flip cover with a magnet lock before. The thing is that the magnet disrupts your s pen, thus preventing you to write on the screen. But when i remove the cover, its fine. But i have not seen to encounter any disfunctionalities after using the magnet cover
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I use the Zenus carbon case for about two months without any problem. The magnets warning is a generic one that you can find also in other Samsung phones. However more specifically in Note if they are strong enough they could influence the accuracy of the S Pen. In the Zenus case there is no problem at all.

Magnets & OIS don't match

For you photo buffs out there who are interested in adding magnetic detachable lenses to your Note 4 should be aware that magnets will interfere and possibly damage the OIS mechanism. Any magnet near the lens will cause the lens to move in the direction of the magnet and the phone will be unable to focus properly. Even with OIS off your lens will attempt to focus on an object wbut will be unable to due to the pull from the magnet.
I happen to have a 3 in 1 kit from my galaxy S4 that has the macro, wide angle, and fish eye lenses and was wondering if the magnets would effect the lens. Sure enough it does. So what are your options? You can get the clip on style which i dont like that much because it puts pressure on the screen and causes it to change focus points. You can also get a housing with the screw in type lens that contains no magnets. As of this post there is not one made for the note 4 yet but there is one for the note 3.
This maybe useful info for some who are unaware of the workings of OIS. Dont waste your money on the magnetic detachable type.
gpvlog said:
For you photo buffs out there who are interested in adding magnetic detachable lenses to your Note 4 should be aware that magnets will interfere and possibly damage the OIS mechanism. Any magnet near the lens will cause the lens to move in the direction of the magnet and the phone will be unable to focus properly. Even with OIS off your lens will attempt to focus on an object wbut will be unable to due to the pull from the magnet.
I happen to have a 3 in 1 kit from my galaxy S4 that has the macro, wide angle, and fish eye lenses and was wondering if the magnets would effect the lens. Sure enough it does. So what are your options? You can get the clip on style which i dont like that much because it puts pressure on the screen and causes it to change focus points. You can also get a housing with the screw in type lens that contains no magnets. As of this post there is not one made for the note 4 yet but there is one for the note 3.
This maybe useful info for some who are unaware of the workings of OIS. Dont waste your money on the magnetic detachable type.
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Or maybe an industrious 3D printer owner such as my self who also just happens to have Note 4 might come up with something.

S7 Edge Glass

Long time creeper first time user here. I was in the market for a new phone and had it down to the S7 Edge and the Note 5. The only issue I'm having though is even though I put all my phone's in cases I'm worried the exposed edge could be an issue even if dropped with a case on. I lean a little more to the Note 5 because of this. I'm curious if anyone could give me feedback on either phone since being made of glass front and back is easy to crack even in a case and if the S7 edge is more susceptible with the edge screen.
Well the S7 edge does have gorilla glass 4 which is pretty tough, but not bullet proof. I had the same problem in deciding between the S7 and the edge version, I don't care for the edge much but the battery life is better, that's why I went with it. I thought to myself, how often do I really drop my phone where it could break the screen? I never used a tempered glass screen protector on any of my previous phones except my s5, and that was a year into owning it. Out of all of those phones I only broke one screen, all due to my own anger while I was in the military.
There's a good post here on XDA that lists cases for the S7 edge, with pictures and links. You can be the judge on which will suit you if you decide to go that route.
Hope this has helped you, and either way you can't go wrong.
I own an S7 edge and purchased the Spigen case for it. Well I dropped my phone by accident earlier this week and it landed on the screen-side. The case has a small lip on the upper and lower sides of the case so when the phone hits. The lips take the impact. Definitely recommend the case.
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I agree with WhataM about Spigen cases. The screen is Gorilla Glass 4, which means that it has better scratch resistant than most other phones. People tend to misunderstand the difference between scratch resistance and shatter resistance. Kind of like how they misunderstand IP68 as being waterproof, when it is more water resistant.
Get yourself a good case like Spigen, whose cases tend to extend past the screen, and you should be ok. I have cases for my iPhone 6s, S7E, and 6P and have not had one shattered screen.
cryptikman said:
I agree with WhataM about Spigen cases. The screen is Gorilla Glass 4, which means that it has better scratch resistant than most other phones. People tend to misunderstand the difference between scratch resistance and shatter resistance. Kind of like how they misunderstand IP68 as being waterproof, when it is more water resistant.
Get yourself a good case like Spigen, whose cases tend to extend past the screen, and you should be ok. I have cases for my iPhone 6s, S7E, and 6P and have not had one shattered screen.
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Not to argue with you, more like being informative, but the IP (International Protection) code IP68 does mean it is waterproof essentially.
IPXY
X=Solid Particle Protection (0-6)
Y=Liquid Ingress Protection (0-9)
IP68 means Dust Tight (No Ingress of dust) and Immersion Beyond 1 meter (Continuous immersion in water at a depth generally up to 3 meters [Water can enter but it produces no harmful effects])
There is only 1 rating higher and that is IP69K which can withstand powerful high temperature water jets.
Outbreak444 said:
Not to argue with you, more like being informative, but the IP (International Protection) code IP68 does mean it is waterproof essentially.
IPXY
X=Solid Particle Protection (0-6)
Y=Liquid Ingress Protection (0-9)
IP68 means Dust Tight (No Ingress of dust) and Immersion Beyond 1 meter (Continuous immersion in water at a depth generally up to 3 meters [Water can enter but it produces no harmful effects])
There is only 1 rating higher and that is IP69K which can withstand powerful high temperature water jets.
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Read the forum and you'll find out that, regardless of rating, the phone is not as waterproof as you might think it is. There are more than a few people who have suffered water damage, and Samsung's warranty does NOT cover water damage.
And it's not just "high pressure (not temperature) water jets" that are excluded by IP68. That rating is for immersion in still, plain water. Just taking it into the shower with you exceeds the IP68 rating, as do waves, salt water, chlorinated water (e.g., swimming pools), holding the openings under a faucet, and more. And even the "greater than 1 meter" still water test is for a max of 30 minutes.
meyerweb said:
Read the forum and you'll find out that, regardless of rating, the phone is not as waterproof as you might think it is. There are more than a few people who have suffered water damage, and Samsung's warranty does NOT cover water damage.
And it's not just "high pressure (not temperature) water jets" that are excluded by IP68. That rating is for immersion in still, plain water. Just taking it into the shower with you exceeds the IP68 rating, as do waves, salt water, chlorinated water (e.g., swimming pools), holding the openings under a faucet, and more. And even the "greater than 1 meter" still water test is for a max of 30 minutes.
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Yes! People do not understand the meaning of the appendage of "proof" to words. Waterproof would mean that no water can enter, no matter the circumstances. If water can enter after any situation, then it has failed its resistance to water. Thus, water-resistant is the more correct description of the phone. There are a lot of videos online of people testing their phone after immersing it in water and there are problems.
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I own an S7 edge and purchased the Spigen case for it. Well I dropped my phone by accident earlier this week and it landed on the screen-side. The case has a small lip on the upper and lower sides of the case so when the phone hits. The lips take the impact. Definitely recommend the case.
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I have this case. And recommend it, very sturdy and protective.
Although no case offers complete protection.
Was just walking through town, reading the news and my device slips abit out of my hand (Never had a firm grip just flicking through news)
As i felt the device slip from my hand, i quickly respond (Maybe abit aggresive in the way i attempted to)
But i tried to catch the device, Being a little aggresive in the movment and catch i ended up catapulting the device 7ft in the air.
I watched as it fell to the floor in slow motion screen down first.
While the deice never hit perfectly in the screen side, it went down edge ways.
Not enough protection, so now my device has lots of scratch marks along the edge side.
It does not impair the device visually, but its frustrating to see them there every time.
Could of been prevented maybe with a screen protector.
But after using these for years and loosing a level of quality and responsiveness from the screen, I passed putting one on my edge
(as my note 3 survived 2 years without one and screen is scratch free)
These are the prices we pay.
But Spigen survived a nice hefty drop (twice i have done this, and its taken a nice impact damage on the case to show how hard it must of hit the floor)
The very corner when i first dropped it, and a couple of marks on the lips from when i just done it about 30 minutes ago
I use this case https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01DCGNH1W/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Superbly made and total all-round protection without screensavers so still showing off the lovely curves.

Durability Test

https://youtu.be/8NMCqjVoKHI
Despite the comments, the phone looks like it actually held up pretty well.
Yes i think it did better than nexus 6p and z5(back camera plastic lens cover and the screen had slightly detached from motherboard and battery), it's shame sony did not used scratch resistant glass on led/laser/white balance sensor and aluminium space frame it should make this phone little heavier but still more durable than plastic which as we've seen tends to brake rather than bend. In case of finger print scanner i think he scratched it too much in the middle compared to other smartphones he tested
The fingerprint sensor is also recessed, which should make it less vulnerable to scratches.

My Galaxy S7 Edge Still Water resistant ?

Sorry if this is obvious, i have a thin crack in my screen just one, i see videos of the glass replacement and apparently thats something between the glass and the display and i want to know if my Galaxy still water resistant, cause it's seems that it is because of that.
Thnks everyone, and sorry for this nuub question XD.
Not obvious at all. Very understandable question. Unfortunately, it is not so simple.
1. I don't think that there are any official answers to this as Samsung would not want to be held liable even if it is still resistant.
2. The extent of resistance may be reduced by an unknown/ variable amount even if it did keep resistance.
3. It would vary on many other factors e.g. would the layer inside ruin with water? Is the layer inside also cracked?
There may be people who say that their's is still resistant with a crack, but their crack and testing may be different to yours.
I personally would not test it out. I don't even test out the resistance on my intact s7 edge. If you want to guarantee water resistance, get the screen repaired by official Samsung.
Even if it is a small crack, you do not know how deep (how many layers) went. Moreover, you don't know (neither do we) if the layer below the crack is water resistant or not.
And as mentioned above, Samsung will not take the responsibility and the blame for such an issue.

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