As the topic suggests, what is project Ara?
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Aren't they still doing that Puerto Rico test market stuff?
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Project Ara is the codename for an initiative by Google that aims to develop a free, open hardware platform for creating highly modular smartphones. Watch Historic, First Public Demo of Modular ARA Phone
So with Project Ara, we can make custom build phone like custom build PC?
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Project ara used to be about an essentially modular device with unlimited capacity for creativity to flourish in imaginative ways by adapting these devices according to individual need. It's original intent of course to put smartphones into people's hands the world over, but instead devolved into a poor rendition of the same level of adaptability add the g5. It's totally lame now compared to what it was hyped to be. It would have been there mobile device of many categories killer..... some star trek sh*t in 5-10yrs if it would've caught on in its original intent.
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Hey guys,
I was going through all the Android variants on Wikipedia, and I stumbled upon this project called Replicant. It looks pretty cool and promising! I would port it to the EVO myself if I knew how, but unfortunately, that is simply not a gift I currently possess. At this point, they only support/are planning to support a select few devices, namely Nexus. Any brave dev wanna try their hand at porting it?
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Looking at some other forums I noticed that OmniROM is a more used in nexus 5 or nexus 4 forums.. But actually something like multi windows would be awesomely great on our n7..
I've got the feeling that the development of n7 is quite dead..
Is this just a felling of mine?
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JeanEatsWorld said:
Looking at some other forums I noticed that OmniROM is a more used in nexus 5 or nexus 4 forums.. But actually something like multi windows would be awesomely great on our n7..
I've got the feeling that the development of n7 is quite dead..
Is this just a felling of mine?
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You will ALWAYS have more development in phone forums than tablet forums. More phones are sold than tabs, just the nature of supply/demand. You also have to have some patience. 4.4 was just released & the full source isn't even available yet. Nobody is going to continue developing 4.3, so you have to wait for 4.4 to start rolling & then stabilizing a build is priority over implementing features. That said, it is open source & you are free to build whatever suits your needs. I used to do just that, but I have a real job (just like many of the devs) as a mechanical engineer which takes priority over everything, along with my other obligations.
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You will ALWAYS have more development in phone forums than tablet forums. More phones are sold than tabs, just the nature of supply/demand. You also have to have some patience. 4.4 was just released & the full source isn't even available yet. Nobody is going to continue developing 4.3, so you have to wait for 4.4 to start rolling & then stabilizing a build is priority over implementing features. That said, it is open source & you are free to build whatever suits your needs. I used to do just that, but I have a real job (just like many of the devs) as a mechanical engineer which takes priority over everything, along with my other obligations.
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You are right with that, for sure..
But this is one of the reasons why I bought N7 instead of others..because I was pretty sure that I would have more support.. but honestly this is making me upset... T_T
I'm a flashcoholic.. I need to flash something for my tab as I do with my N4..
I just would like Multi-Windows and Pie honestly... I wish I was able to build my own..
..Anyway you are surely right saying that is because of the "numbers" of tabs compared to the "numbers" of smartphones..
Cyanogenmod, my what a terrible, terrible direction you have gone. Talk about fragmentation, most devices are lagging behind stock updates? What happened to latest and greatest before the official updates?
Im so butthurt
I think they have just bit off more than they can chew. By constantly adding devices, it seems the quality is going down dramatically and it is harder to keep all the devices up to date.
You think you have it bad? Just imagine how the people that wasted $600 dollars on the cyanogenmod version of the Oppo N1 feel. $600 for a phone that was suppose to be supported by cm and receive updates in a timely fashion, which is still stuck on 10.2 jellybean for its last stable release. And these guys claim they're going to be able to update the one plus one for two years? Ha, we'll see.
If any of you actually read the cm blog you'd know the reason.
http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/cyanogenmod-11-0-m6-release
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If any of you actually read the cm blog you'd know the reason.
http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/cyanogenmod-11-0-m6-release
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That doesn't explain what's been stated here. Right or wrong, people here are saying dev is slow and buggy, and sometimes it doesn't exist. That's the case of Moto G CM11. Never saw a CM build so buggy after 6 months of developement.
Is Cyanogen obliged to provide us with fast, stable and beautiful builds? Of course not.
Is it true that when Cyanogen was "mod" and not "Inc" things where much better for the open source community, since they are now too busy keeping up with their first phone (retailing of the OnePlus One has been delayed twice and wasn't about hardware, thought)? I think the answer is yes.
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That doesn't explain what's been stated here. Right or wrong, people here are saying dev is slow and buggy, and sometimes it doesn't exist. That's the case of Moto G CM11. Never saw a CM build so buggy after 6 months of developement.
Is Cyanogen obliged to provide us with fast, stable and beautiful builds? Of course not.
Is it true that when Cyanogen was "mod" and not "Inc" things where much better for the open source community, since they are now too busy keeping up with their first phone (retailing of the OnePlus One has been delayed twice and wasn't about hardware, thought)? I think the answer is yes.
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I'm not disagreeing with you. The People who are expecting builds labeled as stable are gonna be waiting for a long time.
A lot of the opens source community dispersed, moved to omnirom and/or other projects.
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I'm not disagreeing with you. The People who are expecting builds labeled as stable are gonna be waiting for a long time.
A lot of the opens source community dispersed, moved to omnirom and/or other projects.
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Omnirom guys began as they moved away from the project when it became a profit company, that's true. But that's not the problem, actually, some guys from other pojects left open source and joined Cyanogen Inc. The problem is much more simple: things work differently when your goal is to make money. It's not a felony, course, but it's a "sin" in terms of opensource spirit, and now we are seen it's tangible results.
CM has lost it's soul, it's original purpose, so now things are being rushed and pushed, and the guys working on it's non-profitable branches, even when they are doing their best (and I do thank them for sharing they work with us in exchange of nothing... except for the private information that now CM collects from every user), it's not the same as it was before. Put the label you want on their builds... stable, M1, XGKT512, it doesn't matter, the result is slow, buggy and unstable, if you compare to what CM was until it's 10.2 version.
Maybe it would be great do have info about known issues updated: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Known_Issues_page_for_falcon?setlang=en-gb. And less disappointment would arise.
You do realize that updates depend on the device maintainer, and if there isn't any then we won't get updates?
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Omnirom guys began as they moved away from the project when it became a profit company, that's true. But that's not the problem, actually, some guys from other pojects left open source and joined Cyanogen Inc. The problem is much more simple: things work differently when your goal is to make money. It's not a felony, course, but it's a "sin" in terms of opensource spirit, and now we are seen it's tangible results.
CM has lost it's soul, it's original purpose, so now things are being rushed and pushed, and the guys working on it's non-profitable branches, even when they are doing their best (and I do thank them for sharing they work with us in exchange of nothing... except for the private information that now CM collects from every user), it's not the same as it was before. Put the label you want on their builds... stable, M1, XGKT512, it doesn't matter, the result is slow, buggy and unstable, if you compare to what CM was until it's 10.2 version.
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That's the reason why when I got my current XT1033, I don't bothered to root and install custom roms! With Motorola still timely updating their software, that's no reason for custom roms. My previous phone Sony X8, I rooted and install various CM based roms, In my opinion, new functions/features were introduced for the sake of adding a long list of features in that roms without considering the stability and functionality issue, while at the same time more and more bugs were introduced. Many times the phone just don't worked when its matter most! Real frustrated but you can't complain because all are worked on their own freewill basis.
I have installed CM 10.2.1 on two Nooks because the Nook software, based on 4.0.4, is crap, IMO. I also have a 2013 Nexus 7 and my wife has a Moto X. I wouldn't dream of putting CM on either of those devices. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. YMMV.
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Anyone in Sweden participated for this program?
Sony's Android™ Concept
No idea what it will hold, new UI maybe?
If I live in swedish, i would've joined it in like, hours ago
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Any details about the confidentiality? Will tester be allowed to share pics/video or it will be kept secret?
These are the terms...
"By Signing-up to this Beta activity you are accepting the terms & conditions stated below:
Your device will be running pre-release software. Accordingly, it collects and sends crash and usage information about your device and connected accessories to Sony Mobile in order for us to improve the device/software. These reports contain a wide range of personal information, such as unique device IDs, your location, details regarding running applications and events/inputs leading up to a crash.
Sony Mobile will handle this information in accordance with its Privacy Policy. This functionality cannot be disabled in the pre-release software.
We are excited you want to use our pre-release software , but please remember unauthorized use is prohibited - software extraction, code tampering and/or public sharing of contents of pre-release software will be investigated and treated as a legal matter. If you lose your device during the testing phase please contact the administrators."
It only says release contents of software is not allowed. I don't think screenshot falls into this category [emoji14]
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oSandmaNo said:
It only says release contents of software is not allowed. I don't think screenshot falls into this category [emoji14]
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Minimum 5 years in prison for posting screenshots
There's already a couple screenshots here:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/07/2...ncept-for-android-project-a-stripped-back-ui/
Nothing spectacular, more vanilla Android.
Sony is changing Xperia UI in Android 6, maybe even earlier but I doubt.
@niaboc79, buddy, are you in?
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What a good time to be in Sweden! registering, thanks for the heads up!
If they go with Vanilla Android, I'm happy. The current Sony UI is alright, very light, but there things here and there that aren't very well thought. Spacing between some icons, alignment, etc. I'd rather see Sony add their features without changing the UI.
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If they go with Vanilla Android, I'm happy. The current Sony UI is alright, very light, but there things here and there that aren't very well thought. Spacing between some icons, alignment, etc. I'd rather see Sony add their features without changing the UI.
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Yep, the Motorola way would be fantastic. I for much faster update as well!
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I don't see the difference between the current UI and the stripped down version :s [emoji28] [emoji28]
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I don't see the difference between the current UI and the stripped down version :s [emoji28] [emoji28]
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The idea is a lighter, closer to stock Android look I guess. If the screen shots shown so far are accurate, Sony will start having a UI similar to a Nexus phone with Sony features on top of it.
Hopefully we'll receive more information starting from tomorrow. I've signed up the first day this news came up, just crossing my fingers now. Seems like Sony wants to take a GPE approach on our devices. Would be really nice. Hopefully this means faster development and pushing out codes for aosp which also means that we are getting closer to fix the fish eye bug that all aosp ROMs and cm ROMs has for our devices. Either way that's just me wishing for the beat of our future.
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Hopefully we'll receive more information starting from tomorrow. I've signed up the first day this news came up, just crossing my fingers now. Seems like Sony wants to take a GPE approach on our devices. Would be really nice. Hopefully this means faster development and pushing out codes for aosp which also means that we are getting closer to fix the fish eye bug that all aosp ROMs and cm ROMs has for our devices. Either way that's just me wishing for the beat of our future.
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Isn't the fish-eye bug a problem because Sony didn't release the camera sources?
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Isn't the fish-eye bug a problem because Sony didn't release the camera sources?
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Yes but what I meant was that hopefully Sony will start pushing out sources faster when and if they continue to do a lighter ui such as this test version.
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Yes but what I meant was that hopefully Sony will start pushing out sources faster when and if they continue to do a lighter ui such as this test version.
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Oh, I see. Hopefully they do. I wonder if the new UI will be ready for Android M or so. Let us know how it is if you get the chance to use the beta.
the icons need to be smaller, in my opinion. So big....haha.
Always using Nova Launcher.
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Hopefully we'll receive more information starting from tomorrow. I've signed up the first day this news came up, just crossing my fingers now. Seems like Sony wants to take a GPE approach on our devices. Would be really nice. Hopefully this means faster development and pushing out codes for aosp which also means that we are getting closer to fix the fish eye bug that all aosp ROMs and cm ROMs has for our devices. Either way that's just me wishing for the beat of our future.
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100% agreed with your view and hope!
Let us know how it goes.
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I've been chosen to test the concept ui. I'm running it right now
Is oneplus gonna release the source for the finger print scanner? Is that why that development is lacking for this phone? I'm really regretting my purchase. Kinda let down.. I'm late to the game but was just reading that some devs sold their devices! Uugh. Anyone interested in a new OPT?
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Oneplus will not release its Lollipop fingerprint scanner code. Instead Carl said they will switch to standard Google Fingerprint API on Marshmallow.
What is the point of this thread imho oneplus said they will use a standard API for the fingerprint sensor.
I think we just have to wait.
The oneplus 2 is a well build phone and oos is not the best os i agree but hey just buy a Samsung with touchwizz?
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I think what Carl meant was the scanner binary driver for mm would work on custom roms
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The future of op2 seems like shining brighter...
Looks like they will start an developer program and invite some well-known devs
https://mobile.twitter.com/andip71/status/682120706742710272
vergilbt said:
The future of op2 seems like shining brighter...
Looks like they will start an developer program and invite some well-known devs
https://mobile.twitter.com/andip71/status/682120706742710272
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I'm very new to my OPT and even less savvy about this boeffla kernel/person but they are hiring him sounds... Extremely promising no?
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vletrmx21 said:
I'm very new to my OPT and even less savvy about this boeffla kernel/person but they are hiring him sounds... Extremely promising no?
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He is a well known kernel developer here in OPT and he developed his reputation over the development and support of over 5 devices.
Not sure what to expect but it sorta give us hope that maybe stock oxygen kernel in marshmallow and forward would be baked better
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