Always-on OK Google is awesome, but for some reason it only turns on the screen about half the time for me.
When it doesn't turn the screen on, it still listens and reacts to commands though, but without the screen on I can't see what it's doing so I still have to manually press the power button to turn on the screen to see the results, effectively defeating the purpose of having it always on (for hands-free operations).
Is anyone else experiencing the same issue? Is there a solution?
Did you turn on Smart lock for OK google?
chichu_9 said:
Did you turn on Smart lock for OK google?
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I did turn on Smart Lock, with trusted devices, trusted places, trusted face and trusted voice enabled.
Yeah I see it... it seems a little buggy, but for me it *always* comes on if it is locked. Not so much when it is unlocked (just sleeping).
I set the screen to lock 5 seconds after screen sleeps.
Solutions Etcetera said:
Yeah I see it... it seems a little buggy, but for me it *always* comes on if it is locked. Not so much when it is unlocked (just sleeping).
I set the screen to lock 5 seconds after screen sleeps.
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Thanks for the confirmation. Come to think of it I only started to notice this issue after I set the screen to lock 5 minutes after the screen sleeps. I'm now setting it to 1 minute instead to get a better compromise between OK-Google-ability and convenience of not having to unlock while I use the phone frequently.
Hopefully Google will come around to fix this obvious bug in the not-too-distant future too.
ydooby said:
Always-on OK Google is awesome, but for some reason it only turns on the screen about half the time for me.
When it doesn't turn the screen on, it still listens and reacts to commands though, but without the screen on I can't see what it's doing so I still have to manually press the power button to turn on the screen to see the results, effectively defeating the purpose of having it always on (for hands-free operations).
Is anyone else experiencing the same issue? Is there a solution?
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do u have on tap enabled? cause I had the same issue and fixed it by disabling on tap.
valapsp said:
do u have on tap enabled? cause I had the same issue and fixed it by disabling on tap.
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Seems to help. But still inconsistent.
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Hi all.
I have this annoying problem with my Blackstone.
When the screen turns off everything closes down. It's really annoying if i'm using messenger or something and not look on it for 2 min it closes messenger down.
I know i can choose in battery setting not to turn off the unit if it's not used for a while, but i still like that the screen is turned off, but still working.
Can this be done??
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Hi all.
I have this annoying problem with my Blackstone.
When the screen turns off everything closes down. It's really annoying if i'm using messenger or something and not look on it for 2 min it closes messenger down.
I know i can choose in battery setting not to turn off the unit if it's not used for a while, but i still like that the screen is turned off, but still working.
Can this be done??
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Yes it can.
Go to Start/Settings/System/Power/Advanced and you can select the screen or backlight to turn off if device is not used for x mins on either battery or external power
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Yes it can.
Go to Start/Settings/System/Power/Advanced and you can select the screen or backlight to turn off if device is not used for x mins on either battery or external power
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Yeah i know, but it only turn the lights down, not turn the screen off. It's only if i choose to turn off the device the screen turns off.
I use gyrator to set up an event that turns the screen off without turning the device off when the stylus is inserted (you can modify the default gyrator behaviour which is to lock the screen when the stylus is inserted). If you want to be fancy you could set it up to turn the screen off if the phone is turned face down, you don't really need the screen on then anyway unless you're in the habit of looking at your phone above your face while lying on your back, or trying to use it while doing acrobatics in an stunt plane.
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I use gyrator to set up an event that turns the screen off without turning the device off when the stylus is inserted (you can modify the default gyrator behaviour which is to lock the screen when the stylus is inserted). If you want to be fancy you could set it up to turn the screen off if the phone is turned face down, you don't really need the screen on then anyway unless you're in the habit of looking at your phone above your face while lying on your back, or trying to use it while doing acrobatics in an stunt plane.
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Well i can't get it to work :-/
What i'm looking for is also a thing so the device isn't turned off when i push the turn on/turn off button on the top. I want to use this button to turn off the screen and not close down the programs.
This is what i'm looking for and i hope someone can help me
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Well i can't get it to work :-/
What i'm looking for is also a thing so the device isn't turned off when i push the turn on/turn off button on the top. I want to use this button to turn off the screen and not close down the programs.
This is what i'm looking for and i hope someone can help me
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Just tried the screen off when phone is face down and it doesn't seem to be working for me either for some reason. But the stylus in event is working fine, just pop the stylus out and put it back in again and the screen goes completely off without killing the processes in the background (can still explore phone with active sync). I wouldn't want to mess with the power button as that is really useful to provide a proper device suspend when I want it.
I have a similar problem but with the GPS.
I have raised the question here, on some other forums and directly to HTC.
From HTC I got the answer that it is done by design to minimize battery drain and that they would have many angry costumers complaining about low battery life.
The only solution I know of so far is to use a 3rd party app.
I use "screenoff" and everytime I use the GPS I go to advanced-power and uncheck all the boxes.
When I'm done using the GPS I check the boxes again, otherwise I'll have to remember to turn the screen off manually everytime in "normal" usage of the phone.
I think it's sad though on such an expensive device not to have the option to run programs and hardware in sleep mode.
I'd rather find a solution where I can push the power button as usual and where I can have the boxes in advanced-power checked all the time.
I managed to get gyrator to turn the screen off by flipping face down, just needed to put the screen off command before all the rotation disable commands. Now if I want to disable the screen I just have to flip it face down for a second or so.
Thx for all your help.
But i found out that it's not only when the screen turns off everything closes. If i just leave it on home screen for like 2 min. everything also closes down.
I've heard from another forum that it's something HTC has decided to do to keep on the battery....
I don't know if there is anything to do here then??
Go to the start button, select settings, select system , scroll down and select power then the advanced tab and UNTICK Turn off device if not used for 2mins for both external and battery power.
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Go to the start button, select settings, select system , scroll down and select power then the advanced tab and UNTICK Turn off device if not used for 2mins for both external and battery power.
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Done that... Still closes everything after around 2. min....
Strange, doesn't do that on mine.
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Strange, doesn't do that on mine.
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I had a similar problem and only thing which resolved it was a hard reset!
I'm just testing it again to make sure. Have a track playing in the HTC music app and I'm signed in to messenger. Screen is off and I'm waiting for 3 mins to make sure.
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I had a similar problem and only thing which resolved it was a hard reset!
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That was going to be my next suggestion, really doesn't sound like normal operation to me. So hardreset and install one app at a time until you find out what is messing things up for you. 3 mins are up and track is still playing and I'm still signed in to messenger.
Thanks to a guy called Dawsonas I just found a program called Pocketshield.
It has an application permission feature:
"When this app is running override power off: just do screen off" (use this option for music players, GPS apps, loggers, IM, or any app that needs the device to stay awake). This setting will take effect either when "Power off on lock" or "Power off after 20 seconds" options are enabled.
Check it out
http://pocketshield.netserver01.com/
Magster said:
Thanks to a guy called Dawsonas I just found a program called Pocketshield.
It has an application permission feature:
"When this app is running override power off: just do screen off" (use this option for music players, GPS apps, loggers, IM, or any app that needs the device to stay awake). This setting will take effect either when "Power off on lock" or "Power off after 20 seconds" options are enabled.
Check it out
http://pocketshield.netserver01.com/
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I will try that
But do you guys think it could be some settings in the ROM? Should i try another one or what do i do when you say it isn't normal for the phone?
Hi, my typical procedure before putting the phone in the pocket is to hold right soft button to lock the screen and to switch off the screen with the power button. I wonder if there is a way to do it at once. You press the power button and screen goes off locked?
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Install AutolockScreen 1.7 (I'm at work so don't have the cab with me, but if you search this site you'll find it. Install the cab and then go to Start\Settings\System\SmartLock and tick Suspend lock.
LockDevice works well...
http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2009/09...k-the-windows-mobile-screen-after-wakeup.html
Do either of these lock screen apps consume a lot of power?
I understand they have also been created with power saving feaures but what do they run like in a coarse of a day for instance, do they drain the battery quickly?
Thanks.
HD Tweak also has option for autolock when device turned off
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HD Tweak also has option for autolock when device turned off
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It does but it has a problem with the background light not undimming after locking.
Doesn't the phone automatically lock itself when you turn off the screen? Mine seems like it always does.
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Doesn't the phone automatically lock itself when you turn off the screen? Mine seems like it always does.
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Mine doesn't do that unfortunately. I am using the app suggested above by ClydeB1 and its working great, not much battery drain either.
Regards.
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It does but it has a problem with the background light not undimming after locking.
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My phone is set to quite dim anyway in Power settings so this doesn't affect me.......hence why I forgot about it
I've attached the cab which ClydeB1 was talking about, i.e. SmartLock 1.7
Mastoid said:
Mine doesn't do that unfortunately. I am using the app suggested above by ClydeB1 and its working great, not much battery drain either.
Regards.
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What happens if you just turn the screen off with the power button? Does touching send/back/etc turn it back on?
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What happens if you just turn the screen off with the power button? Does touching send/back/etc turn it back on?
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On my device, no. If you turn screen off, only way to turn it on again is with the power button (unless someone rings etc)
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What happens if you just turn the screen off with the power button? Does touching send/back/etc turn it back on?
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On my device, no. If you turn screen off, only way to turn it on again is with the power button (unless someone rings etc)
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Yes, if you just press the power button the screen goes off but it is not locked and although touching the buttons does not turn it back on, if an sms comes in and wakes the device the buttons are then active and could be accidentally touched whilst in your pocket. With the screen locked this does not happen and you need to first unlock the screen to access the sms or the device in general.
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Yes, if you just press the power button the screen goes off but it is not locked and although touching the buttons does not turn it back on, if an sms comes in and wakes the device the buttons are then active and could be accidentally touched whilst in your pocket. With the screen locked this does not happen and you need to first unlock the screen to access the sms or the device in general.
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True, yes, but I use Smartlock 1.7 so phone does lock
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True, yes, but I use Smartlock 1.7 so phone does lock
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Was using your answer and expanding on it for explaining to rpimps
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Yes, if you just press the power button the screen goes off but it is not locked and although touching the buttons does not turn it back on, if an sms comes in and wakes the device the buttons are then active and could be accidentally touched whilst in your pocket. With the screen locked this does not happen and you need to first unlock the screen to access the sms or the device in general.
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Oh ok thanks for the info. Mine does unlock when I get a call/sms but I text a lot so I prefer it to do that, otherwise I'd be wasting a lot of time unlocking it every time I got a message.
Thanks for the hint ClydeB1 and thanks for the cab Fallen Spartan.
I tried SL 1.7 and there are three things, which I do not really like.
1. The phone returns to the very same screen where it was switched off. Some may consider it a pre. I prefer to see the clock when I switch it on.
2. The screen blink once when the phone is switchd on. I find it a bit irritating.
3. I do not see how I can uninstall it.
So, I wonder if you can undim the screen in HD Tweak by touching it or you need to do something extra?
You uninstall it as with any other cab. It's called Chobit Company Smartlock on the list of apps.
If you do use the hd tweak edit, you'll need to push the power button twice I think (it's been a long time since I used it I've forgotten), the first time to activate the screen (you'll see the screen but the backlight will not light up properly) then again to undim and then you can unlock the screen. I think that's the sequence, you'll need to play a little.
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You uninstall it as with any other cab. It's called Chobit Company Smartlock on the list of apps.
If you do use the hd tweak edit, you'll need to push the power button twice I think (it's been a long time since I used it I've forgotten), the first time to activate the screen (you'll see the screen but the backlight will not light up properly) then again to undim and then you can unlock the screen. I think that's the sequence, you'll need to play a little.
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The way I had activated the lock was by pressing and keeping pressure on the end call softkey, after a few seconds it vibrates and activates the lock. It comes on automatically when you put the screen off or restart the phone.
Regards.
Auto-lock screen
I'm running CLEAN ROM (B version) with SPB Mobile Shell.
Considering I don't want any superficial apps installed on my HD, I used HD Tweak and turned autolock on.
To get over the "background light not undimming after locking" problem, I initially unchecked "Automatically adjust backlight" under Settings > System > Power > Backlight and set at 100%. I also set the "Dim backlight on Device" when on battery power to the same time as "Turn off device if not used for". In my case that was 1 minute. I tested and this worked fine.
I then went back in and checked the "Automatically adjust backlight" checkbox.
I also performed the wake up with volume button reg edit making it easier to wake up device.
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Keybd]
"DefaultKeyLock"= 0
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Just tested again and I realised if you wake up device but don't unlock. The screen will automatically dim. Unfortunately if you unlock immediately after, the dim screen issue rears it's ugly head again. The only workaround at this point is to completely disable dim backlight.
I have a SIM unlocked and unbranded Desire Z (not rooted). I've set the screen lock to 5 minutes and to require a pattern to unlock.
I've noticed that if I let the phone go to sleep, and then after 5 minutes flip out the keyboard, it unlocks it without requiring the unlock pattern. Does this happen to anyone else?
Yeah, I think this is by design. On Windows Mobile there was a reg key to enable / disable "unlock on slide" Maybe there is similar for Android.
Craig
I can't believe this would be by design, it completely undermines the security on the device. How could these be handed out to corporate customers when they can be unlocked by just flipping out the keyboard?
Also the behaviour is inconsistent. If I unlock using the power button, and then turn off the screen, if I flip out the keyboard to wake up again, I do require a pattern to unlock. But if I leave the device for 5 minutes and try again, it lets me straight in.
Ooops, I completely mis-understood your initial post.. The pattern is a sort of PIN screen isn't it..
Ignore me!
Craig
when i slide mine open, it shows me the unlock pattern screen in landscape
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when i slide mine open, it shows me the unlock pattern screen in landscape
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Me too, I'm using the pattern also...
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Me too, I'm using the pattern also...
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I get mixed results. Sometimes mine asks for the password, sometimes it doesn't. I've tried with a PIN, password and pattern. I seem to get the problem more often when the phone has been asleep for a long time, e.g. if I flip it open in the morning when I wake up.
In a way I am glad no one else has this but it's pretty annoying for me!
I get the same problem.
I've also found it to be sporadic. So far i'm thinking there is a pattern depending on what app you have on the screen when the phone locks or sleeps. For instance if its the home screen then it seems to be ok and on waking it prompts for a password. But on other apps it doesnt....
Do you have the same problem if you set the lock time to immediately? Maybe its some kind of problem with the timer.
With immediate lock time I cannot get into the phone without drawing the pattern, keyboard or no keyboard.
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So far i'm thinking there is a pattern depending on what app you have on the screen when the phone locks or sleeps. For instance if its the home screen then it seems to be ok and on waking it prompts for a password. But on other apps it doesnt....
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I think you might have nailed it there. If I leave the mail app open and lock the screen or let it go to sleep, after a while I can unlock it by just opening the keyboard.
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Do you have the same problem if you set the lock time to immediately? Maybe its some kind of problem with the timer.
With immediate lock time I cannot get into the phone without drawing the pattern, keyboard or no keyboard.
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I am testing this and it seems to work properly so far. I'll keep it on lock immediately and see if it happens again. This is really crap though. Most users are going to keep the default of 5 minutes and be totally insecure ...
Hey everyone,
I got a nexus 2 days ago and I love the phone! But theres this annoying problem when the screen is off. When I come to turn it on by the power button it wont turn on at all I know the phone is running but whenever i press the button to turn the screen on it wont come on at all I have to keep pressing the power button numerous of times to get it working and I can feel the phone vibrating when i keep pressing the power button so I obviously know that the phone is working not shut down. Is there anyway to fix that because its quite annoying I got the phone just recently and there hasn't been any problems with it everything works great its just THAT problem I want to resolve.
Oh yeah this issue only occurs at random moments.
Thanks!
Try setting the fingerprint screen lock and see if scanning your fingerprint turns on the screen as a by pass. Not sure what could cause such issue hopefully just some faulty software.
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Try setting the fingerprint screen lock and see if scanning your fingerprint turns on the screen as a by pass. Not sure what could cause such issue hopefully just some faulty software.
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I have fingerprint enabled, that doesn't work either.
have you by any chance disabled your nav bar? also what is the android version?
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have you by any chance disabled your nav bar? also what is the android version?
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It turns out it was a display problem. I returned the device back to the people who i bought it from and waiting to get a replacement.
A few months ago after one of the automatic updates, the phone started doing this. I don't use the lock screen, so the phone goes straight into the main menu so if the phone is in my pocket it will open programs, butt-dial people etc etc. I've noticed it happens when you bring the phone up to your face, but it also happens in many other situations.
I've looked all through settings and I can't find this feature so I can turn it off. Anyone else had this problem?
Check if on-body detection in settings>security>smart lock and Lift to check phone gesture were automatically turned on and turn it off.
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A few months ago after one of the automatic updates, the phone started doing this. I don't use the lock screen, so the phone goes straight into the main menu so if the phone is in my pocket it will open programs, butt-dial people etc etc. I've noticed it happens when you bring the phone up to your face, but it also happens in many other situations.
I've looked all through settings and I can't find this feature so I can turn it off. Anyone else had this problem?
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So you do not have any kind of lock on your phone and your screen lock is set to none?
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Check if on-body detection in settings>security>smart lock and Lift to check phone gesture were automatically turned on and turn it off.
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Smart lock is greyed out, it says "To use, first set a screen lock"
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So you do not have any kind of lock on your phone and your screen lock is set to none?
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That's correct.
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That's correct.
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So it might have happened that your power key is pressed accidentally while the phone is in your pocket and apps are launched so I'd recommend you to atleast turn on swipe for unlock to avoid accidental unlocks.
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So it might have happened that your power key is pressed accidentally while the phone is in your pocket and apps are launched so I'd recommend you to atleast turn on swipe for unlock to avoid accidental unlocks.
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I can confirm that's not the case, I just have to put the phone in a vertical position and the screen will turn on, with no input on the power button. For example when I'm cleaning the screen with windex it's almost impossible, I keep turning the screen off and it keeps turning on immediately with the motion of the phone. If there's any motion on the phone, the screen will almost 100% of the times turn itself on.
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I can confirm that's not the case, I just have to put the phone in a vertical position and the screen will turn on, with no input on the power button. For example when I'm cleaning the screen with windex it's almost impossible, I keep turning the screen off and it keeps turning on immediately with the motion of the phone. If there's any motion on the phone, the screen will almost 100% of the times turn itself on.
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Go to settings>system>gestures>lift to check phone, toggle it off
In my case this feature is broken currently not working though it's turned on
D-Mi said:
Go to settings>system>gestures>lift to check phone, toggle it off
In my case this feature is broken currently not working though it's turned on
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Brilliant, that fixed it, thanks so much! If it was a feature that was a pretty bad one, it made it really hard to live with the phone, it kept turning on in all sorts of situations. Thanks again! :good:
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Brilliant, that fixed it, thanks so much! If it was a feature that was a pretty bad one, it made it really hard to live with the phone, it kept turning on in all sorts of situations. Thanks again! :good:
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Well the feature is intended to quickly check the time and some other notification from apps but features can sometimes be annoying than useful! I personally turned it off to save battery.