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AT&T LTE Question

Quick question, I just got my moto x pure today and swapped my AT&T sim card from my note 5. I noticed when I make calls I use the HSPA network and not LTE. Any thoughts? I figured I would ask here first prior to dealing with AT&T directly.

Did it operate the same way in your Note 5? I use T-Mobile and it has always operated like that for me on all my devices and it will go back to LTE when the call is complete.

I believe that's to be expected. That's how both my S6 and OnePlus One were/are. (On AT&T)

My M8 does that as well. I don't know that AT&T has enabled VoLTE yet.
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Moto X Pure does not support volte on ATT yet.

That makes complete sense, I'll have to swap my sim back to the note5 and see if it supports volte. Bummer though, its useful in some situations when traveling.

xbrandx said:
Quick question, I just got my moto x pure today and swapped my AT&T sim card from my note 5. I noticed when I make calls I use the HSPA network and not LTE. Any thoughts? I figured I would ask here first prior to dealing with AT&T directly.
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Every phone I've had that didn't use "Stock" At&t signal bars, due to running a custom ROM, switched to HSPA.
This is completely normal behavior.

I agree with EVERYONE here. This has been the same since AT&T deployed LTE. No calls take place over LTE. The calls rely on the HSPA network. Once the call is over, LTE displays very quickly. Nothing to worry about OP.

Anyone can confirm if Band 12 works with a tmobile Sim?

Verizon compatibility

Will the Axon 7 work on Verizon's Network?

Eventually, Zte is still waiting for Verizon to give the green light. What I'm wondering is, even if Verizon hasn't given the green, would it work if I put my sim card in. The phone has all the bands.
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Yeah. I was thinking about that. When the salesmen at Verizon saw my Nexus 6p they had no idea what it was and it has worked fine.

Would be nice if it worked on Veryzone and also had a BL unlock but some dreams are just never gonna happen
I hope I'm wrong so much

SinisterXReaper said:
Eventually, Zte is still waiting for Verizon to give the green light. What I'm wondering is, even if Verizon hasn't given the green, would it work if I put my sim card in. The phone has all the bands.
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According to ZTE, the device has the correct antennas for CDMA usage (and FCC testing documents confirm that they tested CDMA usage). I asked an employee on the ZTE forums the clarify if it was enabled in both the hardware and software, but after watching the webinar that they posted on Youtube, they made it sound like it was disabled in the software. For now, it sounds like CDMA usage is disabled for all CDMA carriers until they get approval from Verizon and Sprint.
I'm anxious for CDMA compatibility, as this would make the A7 the first dual-SIM phone to fully support US CDMA carriers. (the OP3 only supports CDMA Band 0, missing Band 1 for whatever reason, and Sprint's Band 10)

I would be kind of surprised if the webinar were accurate as the specs on ZTE's Axon 7 sales site clearly show CDMA 0/1/10 support with no caveats. It would seem to be false advertising if these bands were disabled out of the box...but we'll see.
EvDO isn't mentioned but it's in the FCC filings and is kind of implied anyway.
Plus, Verizon is supposedly required to allow all band 13 devices on its network as a condition of their 750MHz license...so I'm pretty sure the Axon 7 will work even if not initially.
Agreed on the huge importance of the dual SIM/Verizon thing...that's a major step forward for people who want dual SIM CDMA (I count myself I that group!)

http://www.pcmag.com/review/346194/zte-axon-7
I emailed this guy for clarification and he confirmed his is working on Verizon and sent screen shots to show it...

I'm so close to ordering this phone. A lot of the places have a restocking once it is open. Just want to see if it works out of the box.
I see his phone states Verizon, but it says he is roaming. Can we get a pic with LTE or 4G on the display?
Thanks

Here is a screenshot showing mine on Verizon and LTE. Still shows as roaming though, but it's definitely LTE speed as you can see.

jspring86 said:
Here is a screenshot showing mine on Verizon and LTE. Still shows as roaming though, but it's definitely LTE speed as you can see.
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So it's fully functional on Verizon? Run into any snags with service?

droidrev71 said:
So it's fully functional on Verizon? Run into any snags with service?
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Yeah so I just went out for a bit. It's really unstable I believe it must be because Verizon hasn't fully certified it to use on their network. The LTE will work for about an hour then it cuts off altogether and just shows roaming. Then if you reboot the LTE is back. I'll investigate some more but for now I'm not sure I'd recommend using it on Verizon. It works much nicer on T-Mobile and ATT

My oneplus 3 shows roaming on Verizon also, but it works fine. Im just not in love with it. So it's going back for the Axon 7.
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droidrev71 said:
So it's fully functional on Verizon? Run into any snags with service?
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. Just got mine today and has the same little r by the status bars. Hasn't affected service at all. Only thing is I can't access data while on a call. In Detroit area recorded 60mbps download. Crazy fast. Everything else works perfectly. Sweet phone purchased from Best Buy.

waltermax said:
. Just got mine today and has the same little r by the status bars. Hasn't affected service at all. Only thing is I can't access data while on a call. In Detroit area recorded 60mbps download. Crazy fast. Everything else works perfectly. Sweet phone purchased from Best Buy.
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Simultaneous voice and data on Verizon requires VoLTE, which won't be added until Verizon approves it for their network.

Hi everybody - I've used a dual SIM adapter with my Nexus 5x and 6 with Verizon and I've found that the "Global" and/or "LTE/GSM/CDMA (PRL)" radio modes can cause problems with Verizon...the "LTE/CDMA auto (PRL)" is the only one that works properly...I ordered an Axon 7 myself so I'll definitely be experimenting too but just in case someone wants to open the testing menu (i.e., *#*#4636#*#* , "Phone Information") and try this out I figured I'd pass it on...I'm really hoping we can get VZW working perfectly on this device!
Sometimes the Preferred Network Type menu in settings also has this option (see screenshot).
On dual SIM phones I know from my OnePlus 2 experiences the testing menu can be finicky to get to work as I think it doesn't always apply to correct SIM (It seemed to always apply to SIM one on the OP2) so maybe this won't do any good but I figure it's worth trying?
Also, airplane mode may have to me toggled after switching modes to make this work...my Nexus 5X doesn't need this step to make things work but the Nexus 6 does.

I'm in Detroit area as well. I'll have mine in the morning as I'm picking it up from BB. I'll fiddle with the settings. I have both Verizon & T-mobile.
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flyer_andy said:
Hi everybody - I've used a dual SIM adapter with my Nexus 5x and 6 with Verizon and I've found that the "Global" and/or "LTE/GSM/CDMA (PRL)" radio modes can cause problems with Verizon...the "LTE/CDMA auto (PRL)" is the only one that works properly...I ordered an Axon 7 myself so I'll definitely be experimenting too but just in case someone wants to open the testing menu (i.e., *#*#4636#*#* , "Phone Information") and try this out I figured I'd pass it on...I'm really hoping we can get VZW working perfectly on this device!
Sometimes the Preferred Network Type menu in settings also has this option (see screenshot).
On dual SIM phones I know from my OnePlus 2 experiences the testing menu can be finicky to get to work as I think it doesn't always apply to correct SIM (It seemed to always apply to SIM one on the OP2) so maybe this won't do any good but I figure it's worth trying?
Also, airplane mode may have to me toggled after switching modes to make this work...my Nexus 5X doesn't need this step to make things work but the Nexus 6 does.
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I leave my Motorola devices on "LTE/GSM/CDMA (PRL)" (E2 and G4, and although I don't have one, the Moto X Pure defaults to it) and I have no issues connecting with Verizon. Stick it my Verizon SIM and it auto-connects, stick in my T-Mobile SIM and it auto-connects, stick Verizon back in and it auto-connects. The dual-SIM adapter might be causing the issues, as I've tried using one before, but it would force my phone into "TD-SCDMA, GSM/WCDMA and LTE" mode and neither SIM would end up connecting, and forcing it to "LTE/GSM/CDMA (PRL)" didn't fix anything. Since the A7 is natively dual-SIM, it shouldn't have the same issues.
Also, it seems that only SIM1 is CDMA enabled, SIM2 is GSM/WCDMA/LTE only.

xtermmin said:
I leave my Motorola devices on "LTE/GSM/CDMA (PRL)" (E2 and G4, and although I don't have one, the Moto X Pure defaults to it) and I have no issues connecting with Verizon. Stick it my Verizon SIM and it auto-connects, stick in my T-Mobile SIM and it auto-connects, stick Verizon back in and it auto-connects. The dual-SIM adapter might be causing the issues, as I've tried using one before, but it would force my phone into "TD-SCDMA, GSM/WCDMA and LTE" mode and neither SIM would end up connecting, and forcing it to "LTE/GSM/CDMA (PRL)" didn't fix anything. Since the A7 is natively dual-SIM, it shouldn't have the same issues.
Also, it seems that only SIM1 is CDMA enabled, SIM2 is GSM/WCDMA/LTE only.
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Yeah - agree totally...without the dual SIM adapter, "Global" works just fine on all my devices too...there's no doubt the adapter is the issue.
What made me think of the radio mode issue was the commenter above that said the phone is "unstable..." - that's exactly how I'd describe the behavior of the phone in "Global" mode with the dual SIM installed. It works for a little while then goes to No Service and sometimes shows the Roaming icon for a bit, which seems to be a somewhat similar behavior he was experiencing, though a bit quicker in its onset.

I think the real issue with Verizon is activation, right? If you have a SIM from another device you can pop it in and go, but if you need a new activation is when it gets sticky with Verizon. They give the whole, "it's not in our system" line...

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I think the real issue with Verizon is activation, right? If you have a SIM from another device you can pop it in and go, but if you need a new activation is when it gets sticky with Verizon. They give the whole, "it's not in our system" line...
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People who have tested the phone with a pre-activated SIM are the ones reporting the issues. Some have been lucky enough to not have any or only minor issues. I'm wondering if it has to do with the bands or frequencies people may be on in different areas.
I really wish we could get a solid answer from either ZTE, Verizon, or the users. I would really like to get this phone but can't take the chance of buying an expensive paperweight.

Confusion with Verizon S8 on StraightTalk with an AT&T sim

Hi guys... i'm actually brand new to the forums. I read threads on here a lot since I will google a phone question & this website usually comes up in some of the 1st results. I never made an account though.. I have now because I haven't been able to find a clear answer on this one..
Just a little back story ; I had StraightTalk with an AT&T simcard from like 2013-2016 on straight talk with an iPhone 5, 5S, and 6 but they were all either AT&T models, or, for example, the iPhone 6 I had was an unlocked model. They worked regardless. & I never had any issues with coverage. I got signal practically everywhere, and had LTE coverage always. It was literally a clone of the coverage you'd get if you actually had AT&T, the coverage maps matched and data speeds weren't even capped, I was getting about 20 or so megs around here in the area, which would have been the same even if I was actually with AT&T.
I went to Verizon postpaid when I turned 18, and wanted to get a new phone, so I was on postpaid from May of 2016 with Verizon until about 2 days ago because they were just getting too expensive to afford. I assumed my experience with straight talk was gonna be exactly the same as it always was when I had them with all my iPhone's. & just to let you guys know, I did much research beforehand & I knew that all of Verizon's smartphone being released these days are already carrier unlocked, & are world/global phone's right out of the box. Not only this, but the model of my Verizon S8 is SM-G950U, which is the same model number as the unlocked galaxy S8 that's not sold from any carrier.
So with all of that in mind, for some reason, my coverage is terrible on StraightTalk. I am only getting HSPA+ ( faux 4g, i'm acting as if you guys don't know what i'm talking about :laugh: ) & when I leave my house, very RARELY LTE. Signal strength is not as good either. I've searched google for hours..... & i've tried multiple different APN's on the phone... but I can't seem to do anything. & I couldn't find many threads on here about it either. I'm just so confused and lost because it is a known fact that the Verizon S8 is a world phone. & the bands that AT&T runs it's LTE on is also the exact same bands that the G950U supports. So is there something i'm doing wrong here? Or something you guys might be able to help me with? I know that with all my iPhone's on ST I was getting LTE no matter what and signal strength was much better. It's just very dissapointing that I spent $60+ on an activation kit, and get absolutely ****ty coverage, and I have no clue what to do at this point. I've given up. For anyone who took the time to read all of this, thank you. Lol.

Flash the unlocked firmware and all will be good
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bricky23 said:
Flash the unlocked firmware and all will be good
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OP, any updates?

AgentH22 said:
OP, any updates?
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wondering the same thing myself:silly:

Mi note 2 with Verizon

Yeah, I know it's been asked before but I don't feel confident enough to pull the trigger on it to test. I am on Verizon, I have a SIM card I could use in it that's already activated ( currently in a iPhone 6 Plus ) I see it does support CDMA and LTE bands, So does it really work fully with no drawbacks?
Thanks

Verizon/Mi Note 2 GLOBAL EDITION
2G: cdmaOne (IS-95)
3G: CDMA2000 (IMT‑MC), 1xEV-DO
4G: Band 2 (1900MHz), Band 4 (AWS), Band 13 (700MHz)
Verizon also offers LTE on
If you presently have any friends or family living/near where you would use the phone day-to-day with an Android phone on Verizon, I think this works best if you've rooted it, download the LTE Discovery app from the Play Store and use it to determine which 4G bands you are encountering primarily "in the wild" during your day. According to Wikipedia, Verizon only offers LTE on Bands 2, 4, and 13 in the US. So in theory the Mi Note 2 GLOBAL EDITION supports all of VZW's bands.

juchmis said:
Verizon/Mi Note 2 GLOBAL EDITION
2G: cdmaOne (IS-95)
3G: CDMA2000 (IMT‑MC), 1xEV-DO
4G: Band 2 (1900MHz), Band 4 (AWS), Band 13 (700MHz)
Verizon also offers LTE on
If you presently have any friends or family living/near where you would use the phone day-to-day with an Android phone on Verizon, I think this works best if you've rooted it, download the LTE Discovery app from the Play Store and use it to determine which 4G bands you are encountering primarily "in the wild" during your day. According to Wikipedia, Verizon only offers LTE on Bands 2, 4, and 13 in the US. So in theory the Mi Note 2 GLOBAL EDITION supports all of VZW's bands.
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Currently I have a iPhone 6 plus and established I use band 4 at my home and work, Global version supports all LTE bands I read. So yeah it should work right? Just pop my current sim in. I talked to another guy on this forum who posted a screen shot of it working on a pre paid Verizon sim and he said it's worked fine. There's just so little info on this phone working on Verizon and it make me nervous.

AtsuiPanda said:
Currently I have a iPhone 6 plus and established I use band 4 at my home and work, Global version supports all LTE bands I read. So yeah it should work right? Just pop my current sim in. I talked to another guy on this forum who posted a screen shot of it working on a pre paid Verizon sim and he said it's worked fine. There's just so little info on this phone working on Verizon and it make me nervous.
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There are no reasons why it would not work. It supports all 4G LTE bands which Verizon uses, which means it should get the fastest 4G signal anywhere that Verizon's spectrum reaches. That represents the best case, as in phones sold by Verizon for use on their network can only be at most on par with it for 4G support.
It also appears to support all 3G protocols and voice protocols which Verizon uses.
Hard to say whether it will work immediately upon having your present SIM inserted. You may be required to make some kind of contact with Verizon to establish a change of handset, which may be as simple as having the phone's unique IMEI read to them over the phone (or even dialed in after phoning an automated system).

There's no need for any contact with Verizon. Just put the active SIM in and it works fine. I have my Mi Note 2 Global working just fine on Verizon including VoLTE. This required no contact with Verizon nor any inputs in the device info pages on my Verizon account online. In fact I would probably *not* provide an IMEI to Verizon as they will almost surely not allow activation with the Mi's IMEI...though I don't think they'd block it or anything.
I'm the "guy" the OP is referring to above...I've confirmed that all LTE bands including 2, 4, and 13...and CDMA 1X calls and EvDO data all work fine on this phone...not sure if it's CDMA BC0 or 1 in my area (I think it's 0) but both should work. VoLTE is also confirmed working perfectly right out of the box.
To the OP - what additional information are you looking for to determine whether or not this phone is right for you? I'm happy to help but I'm not understanding what else you might need to know as pretty much everything has been revealed vis-a-vis Verizon and the Mi Note 2 Global and it definitely works fine...if you're nervous about it I probably would suggest a different handset unless you really need the dual SIM functionality with Verizon...in which case it's either this phone or the ZTE Axon 7 that you'll be limited to...the Axon 7 is a better phone all in all IMO but is more finicky software-wise in my experience and takes a little more user tweaking to get Verizon to work as well as it should (some people have really struggled with the Axon 7 on Verizon but I had smooth sailing except that I had to use a GSM SIM for initial setup and also after OTAs to sort of "clear" the radio out). The Xiaomi Mi Note 2, on the other hand, has much better connectivity and has given me zero problems on Verizon...I'm actually really impressed with it in this respect.
But at the same time I find the screen on the Xiaomi Mi Note 2 to be grossly inferior to that of the ZTE...the speakers too. And MIUI is kind of meh but I know some people love it...but I guess that's kinda off topic!

flyer_andy said:
There's no need for any contact with Verizon. Just put the active SIM in and it works fine. I have my Mi Note 2 Global working just fine on Verizon including VoLTE. This required no contact with Verizon nor any inputs in the device info pages on my Verizon account online. In fact I would probably *not* provide an IMEI to Verizon as they will almost surely not allow activation with the Mi's IMEI...though I don't think they'd block it or anything.
I'm the "guy" the OP is referring to above...I've confirmed that all LTE bands including 2, 4, and 13...and CDMA 1X calls and EvDO data all work fine on this phone...not sure if it's CDMA BC0 or 1 in my area (I think it's 0) but both should work. VoLTE is also confirmed working perfectly right out of the box.
To the OP - what additional information are you looking for to determine whether or not this phone is right for you? I'm happy to help but I'm not understanding what else you might need to know as pretty much everything has been revealed vis-a-vis Verizon and the Mi Note 2 Global and it definitely works fine...if you're nervous about it I probably would suggest a different handset unless you really need the dual SIM functionality with Verizon...in which case it's either this phone or the ZTE Axon 7 that you'll be limited to...the Axon 7 is a better phone all in all IMO but is more finicky software-wise in my experience and takes a little more user tweaking to get Verizon to work as well as it should (some people have really struggled with the Axon 7 on Verizon but I had smooth sailing except that I had to use a GSM SIM for initial setup and also after OTAs to sort of "clear" the radio out). The Xiaomi Mi Note 2, on the other hand, has much better connectivity and has given me zero problems on Verizon...I'm actually really impressed with it in this respect.
But at the same time I find the screen on the Xiaomi Mi Note 2 to be grossly inferior to that of the ZTE...the speakers too. And MIUI is kind of meh but I know some people love it...but I guess that's kinda off topic!
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Lol you have been most helpful, I made this thread before I contacted you is all I will be ordering the note 2 soon. But if I have any questions after and if I do run into problems I'd PM ya. Thanks again, man.

flyer_andy said:
There's no need for any contact with Verizon. Just put the active SIM in and it works fine. I have my Mi Note 2 Global working just fine on Verizon including VoLTE. This required no contact with Verizon nor any inputs in the device info pages on my Verizon account online. In fact I would probably *not* provide an IMEI to Verizon as they will almost surely not allow activation with the Mi's IMEI...though I don't think they'd block it or anything.
I'm the "guy" the OP is referring to above...I've confirmed that all LTE bands including 2, 4, and 13...and CDMA 1X calls and EvDO data all work fine on this phone...not sure if it's CDMA BC0 or 1 in my area (I think it's 0) but both should work. VoLTE is also confirmed working perfectly right out of the box.
To the OP - what additional information are you looking for to determine whether or not this phone is right for you? I'm happy to help but I'm not understanding what else you might need to know as pretty much everything has been revealed vis-a-vis Verizon and the Mi Note 2 Global and it definitely works fine...if you're nervous about it I probably would suggest a different handset unless you really need the dual SIM functionality with Verizon...in which case it's either this phone or the ZTE Axon 7 that you'll be limited to...the Axon 7 is a better phone all in all IMO but is more finicky software-wise in my experience and takes a little more user tweaking to get Verizon to work as well as it should (some people have really struggled with the Axon 7 on Verizon but I had smooth sailing except that I had to use a GSM SIM for initial setup and also after OTAs to sort of "clear" the radio out). The Xiaomi Mi Note 2, on the other hand, has much better connectivity and has given me zero problems on Verizon...I'm actually really impressed with it in this respect.
But at the same time I find the screen on the Xiaomi Mi Note 2 to be grossly inferior to that of the ZTE...the speakers too. And MIUI is kind of meh but I know some people love it...but I guess that's kinda off topic!
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I do wanna ask you something though, What's the point of using two SIMs? also whats vis a vis?

AtsuiPanda said:
I do wanna ask you something though, What's the point of using two SIMs? also whats vis a vis?
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In my case it's to improve data coverage but for most people it's because they travel internationally and need a second operator in the other country or they do it so they can have a work-related phone number and personal number in the same device.
"Vis-a-vis" just means "in relation to" for all practical purposes.

My experience with Verizon LTE/Signal issues

The verizon signal on my ph-1 was not the best. I would often have to manually choose LTE only to have the phone get LTE, choosing LTE cdma/evdo would keep the phone on 1x/3g. I attributed this to possible software and hardware issues with the phone itself as I saw many other Verizon users with similar complaints. I recently purchased an iPhone and, to my surprise, the phone would not get LTE with the same sim. The sim I'm using originally came in a pixel but has since worked in an a g6, s8, and note 8 with no issue. I called Verizon and he said he had to configure my sim to the iPhone x, afterwards I got perfect LTE signal. I then put the sim back in my ph-1 and I also get perfect signal. Just thought I would share, maybe this will help someone....