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AT&T LTE Question

Quick question, I just got my moto x pure today and swapped my AT&T sim card from my note 5. I noticed when I make calls I use the HSPA network and not LTE. Any thoughts? I figured I would ask here first prior to dealing with AT&T directly.

Did it operate the same way in your Note 5? I use T-Mobile and it has always operated like that for me on all my devices and it will go back to LTE when the call is complete.

I believe that's to be expected. That's how both my S6 and OnePlus One were/are. (On AT&T)

My M8 does that as well. I don't know that AT&T has enabled VoLTE yet.
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Moto X Pure does not support volte on ATT yet.

That makes complete sense, I'll have to swap my sim back to the note5 and see if it supports volte. Bummer though, its useful in some situations when traveling.

xbrandx said:
Quick question, I just got my moto x pure today and swapped my AT&T sim card from my note 5. I noticed when I make calls I use the HSPA network and not LTE. Any thoughts? I figured I would ask here first prior to dealing with AT&T directly.
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Every phone I've had that didn't use "Stock" At&t signal bars, due to running a custom ROM, switched to HSPA.
This is completely normal behavior.

I agree with EVERYONE here. This has been the same since AT&T deployed LTE. No calls take place over LTE. The calls rely on the HSPA network. Once the call is over, LTE displays very quickly. Nothing to worry about OP.

Anyone can confirm if Band 12 works with a tmobile Sim?

Reasearch into the LG G4 US991 Model

So i saw the G4 went down to 299 on Amazon.com and decided to buy it for my parents.
http://www.amazon.com/LG-G4-Unlocked-Leather-Warranty/dp/B01774WPQ8
After purchasing and it was too late to cancel, I noticed a lot of people complaining they were having sporadic issues with the US991 model.
This model was manufactured by LG for US Cellular. They are a CDMA based USA Cellular Provider.
When I Googled the mode, I found a page for this specific model directly on LG's website.
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US991-Genuine-Leather-Black-g4
Specifications
Type Smart Phone
Form Factor Bar
OS Android™ 5.1 (Lollipop)
Technology GSM, CDMA, WCDMA, LTE*
Processor Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 808 with (integrated) 1.8 GHz 64-bit Hexa-Core CPU
RAM 3 GB
Network Hepta Band/Dual Mode*
Frequencies LTE Bands 2/4/5/12/13/17/25, CDMA 800, 1900 MHz, WCDMA 850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz, GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz*
From what I can tell, WCDMA is just another name for UMTS which is the basis for HSPA/HSPA+ Which means that this phone should be compatible with jut about any GSM carrier providing H+ 3.5g data services as well as typical Voice and Messaging services. What this should mean overall, is this will work as an unlocked international GSM compatible phone.
Data Transmission EVDO, EVDO Rev.A, 1xRTT, LTE*
Dimensions 5.86" (H) x 3.00" (W) x 0.38" (D)
Weight 5.46 oz
Display 5.5" (2560 x 1440) with 538 ppi and 500 nit
Touch Screen Yes
Battery Capacity 3,000 mAh
Talk Time Up to 18.5 hours**
Total Internal Memory 32 GB (21.9 GB usable)
microSD™ Memory Slot Supports card up to 2 TB***
Also, based on US Cellular's unlocking policy page for unlocked carrier locked phones,
http://www.uscellular.com/site/legal/mobile-wireless-device-unlocking.html
The US991 G4 comes carrier unlocked from US Cellular so if there are OS updates and such there shouldn't be any cases of carrier relocking (YMMV).
All in all if you are purchasing it just for general cellphone purposes it seems fine. Rooting and ROMing is another issue entirely.
If anyone can add some additional information to this I would be glad.
I hope this helps someone out there.

We're using one on T-Mobile, and everything is working just fine...no issues so far.

buydig had it for $290 on its eBay store (it went up now) with both black and red leather backs.
LTE bands are OK for AT&T (2,4,12,17) and T-Mobile (2,4,12) in the US.
It's missing LTE bands 1,3,7 which are used in Europe.
WCDMA doesn't have the 1700/2100 band that T-Mobile was using but has refarmed to 1900 in most areas now.

My friend bought the same buydig/ebay deal as above, is using it on Verizon. He just popped his sim out of his dead razr m and it works ok, except it being an unregistered device. His is listed as US99110A for software version, Kernel 3.10.40. It won't do a software update with the sim in (obviously) nor without the sim in it. I guess flashing the US Cellular KDZ over would work, but then it includes all their bloat and there's no way to get back to it's current unbranded status. Would be awesome if it could be updated.

G4 US991 on T-Mobile
GeodudeFFP said:
We're using one on T-Mobile, and everything is working just fine...no issues so far.
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Hi, I just received mine, also using on T-Mobile. Works fine, but a couple issues, and possibly a deal breaker:
(1) After upgrading to Marshmallow and signing onto Google to synchonize apps, LG Backup no longer works. Icon still there, but no response when clicked.
(2) Upgrading, from G3, happy to report that Facebook app no longer crashes with Acore error -- not sure if that's because (a) settings changed, (b) upgraded from G3 to G4, or (c) Marshmallow cured it
(3) Cannot find wifi calling, which is necessary for using free text on GoGoInflight-equipped airliners.
I like the $275 price, but #3 may be a deal breaker. If can't make it work within budget, must choose between NEW G4 without wifi-calling, or used G4 with it.
Any thoughts or suggestions appreciated!

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Hi, I just received mine, also using on T-Mobile. Works fine, but a couple issues, and possibly a deal breaker:
(1) After upgrading to Marshmallow and signing onto Google to synchonize apps, LG Backup no longer works. Icon still there, but no response when clicked.
(2) Upgrading, from G3, happy to report that Facebook app no longer crashes with Acore error -- not sure if that's because (a) settings changed, (b) upgraded from G3 to G4, or (c) Marshmallow cured it
(3) Cannot find wifi calling, which is necessary for using free text on GoGoInflight-equipped airliners.
I like the $275 price, but #3 may be a deal breaker. If can't make it work within budget, must choose between NEW G4 without wifi-calling, or used G4 with it.
Any thoughts or suggestions appreciated!
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I don't think wifi calling is available as-is with US991 on T-Mobile, but you may be able to use an app for it. Check out "Hangouts Dialer - Call Phones" app.

can any of you guys confirm whether 3g on T-mobile works? I can see that 2g and 4g LTE are fine, just not sure about 3g since my provider has 3g crossed out for this phone.

StraightTalk won't activate it on one of their Verizon SIMs even though it will work on Verizon. I sent mine back and bought a used Verizon model.
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YoColdRain said:
can any of you guys confirm whether 3g on T-mobile works? I can see that 2g and 4g LTE are fine, just not sure about 3g since my provider has 3g crossed out for this phone.
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I previously wrote
WCDMA doesn't have the 1700/2100 band that T-Mobile was using but has refarmed to 1900 in most areas now.
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So, if you are in an area that T-Mobile refarmed their 3G from the 1700/2100 band to the 1900 band, then you should get 3G. My understanding is that they have done so in most if not all areas.

Just to confirm, will the US991 will get 4g on both verizon and gsm carriers? I have to switch my vzw sim back to a micro sim before I can try. I'm also going to switch to an mvno in a couple of months, just want to make sure it'll work.

royalflush5 said:
Just to confirm, will the US991 will get 4g on both verizon and gsm carriers? I have to switch my vzw sim back to a micro sim before I can try. I'm also going to switch to an mvno in a couple of months, just want to make sure it'll work.
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It should work on Verizon LTE since it has all 3 LTE bands verizon uses.
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dennis5pia said:
It should work on Verizon LTE since it has all 3 LTE bands verizon uses.
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Thanks! Would you happen to know about GSM compatibility? I'd like to keep my options open when my contract with big red ends

royalflush5 said:
Thanks! Would you happen to know about GSM compatibility? I'd like to keep my options open when my contract with big red ends
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Of course, as far as the phone supports the LTE band the GSM carrier work with and the phone is set to Global.
It supports LTE Band 2/4/5/12/13/17/25. I'm using it on GSM carriers with LTE band 2 and 4.
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Just bought a new G4 on eBay with extra battery, battery charger cradle, and extra leather cover for $289 shipped. Brand new. Box says manufacture month was 03/16. Its working great so far. Its on MM out of the box. Threw an Unlimited T-Mobile SIM in it and its working pretty good. Nice.

Hi. I'm wondering if I can get some help with this device. I purchased this device unlocked from my local Rent a Center in New York. Since its unlocked, I am using with my servicer provider Metropcs. Here's where im having some issues. Metropcs offers WiFi Calling on all their devices [ have a LG K7 ] as does T-mobile since they own metro. I noticed that the feature is MIA on my G4. I did some research and found out from LG that the phone itself was originally a US Cellular device. I then called US Celluar. I spoke with their techs and was informed that they don't offer WiFi calling at all with their service, but it doesnt mean the phone doesnt support it. Believe it or not, the tech told me that its more or less a software thing. I went through the stage to upgrade the device to Marshmallow, but apparently its not available. I noticed that all US Cellular LG G4's have Marshmallow. Im wondering if theres a root method that might fix my issues. I looked around and didnt see one for this LG G4 US99111a. I only see them for US99110. Can anyone here at XDA possibly help? Any and all info will be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

mrrock79 said:
Hi. I'm wondering if I can get some help with this device. I purchased this device unlocked from my local Rent a Center in New York. Since its unlocked, I am using with my servicer provider Metropcs. Here's where im having some issues. Metropcs offers WiFi Calling on all their devices [ have a LG K7 ] as does T-mobile since they own metro. I noticed that the feature is MIA on my G4. I did some research and found out from LG that the phone itself was originally a US Cellular device. I then called US Celluar. I spoke with their techs and was informed that they don't offer WiFi calling at all with their service, but it doesnt mean the phone doesnt support it. Believe it or not, the tech told me that its more or less a software thing. I went through the stage to upgrade the device to Marshmallow, but apparently its not available. I noticed that all US Cellular LG G4's have Marshmallow. Im wondering if theres a root method that might fix my issues. I looked around and didnt see one for this LG G4 US99111a. I only see them for US99110. Can anyone here at XDA possibly help? Any and all info will be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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There is not root method yet. Since wifi calling is a metropcs/t-mobile feature you can't get it in a device is not from them, unless someone port a metropcs/t-mobile ROM to other carrier devices.
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I kinda figured this was the case, but was hoping. Im wondering though that if and when US Cellular does support WiFi Calling, will an update from LG activate the feature. Either way, its a great phone. No complaints. Just wondering what marshmallow is like on it.

Not sure if the wifi calling feature from one carrier works in any other carrier.
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It does with other phones I have had. I owned an Iphone 6 Plus from Verizon. The phone is factory unlocked, and I used it on Tmobile/ATT/Sprint before moving to metro. Verizon initially didnt offer Wifi calling. The feature was active in the phone once I left verizon for the others. So its possible. Hence my confusion as to why its not active with the G4, and why I believe the tech at US Cellular told me that its more or less a software issue.

Iphone is kind of different. But I hope it works with Android
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Verizon version - GSM Unlocked?

Has anyone tried to use the Verizon variant on a GSM network yet? We've gotten lucky in the past with other Verizon prepaid LTE phones working.

I don't think the XT1609 is GSM capable. It has no 3G UMTS bands enabled, though it does have the full range of GSM 2G/EDGE bands enabled.
So, pretty much unless you're in a VoLTE area, you might be out of luck for voice calls if it is unlocked. I'm not even sure if this phone does VoLTE anyway though.
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somebody has a moto g4 play to try the same method of moto e 2º generation ?? following the steps with Network app to get gsm capable in the phone.

moto g4 play verizon
i bought one moto g4 play verizon and their coming locked i need a imei code for unlock help me

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i bought one moto g4 play verizon and their coming locked i need a imei code for unlock help me
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did you try the "network" app and follow the same method than moto e 2° verizon?

best buy have them $64.99 at the moment hurry hurry someone please completely confirm if unlockable to work on gsm lol
http://www.android.gs/sim-unlock-verizon-moto-e-2015/
this is what you mean a possible unlock method?

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best buy have them $64.99 at the moment hurry hurry someone please completely confirm if unlockable to work on gsm lol
http://www.android.gs/sim-unlock-verizon-moto-e-2015/
this is what you mean a possible unlock method?
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It would probably be a waste of time and $. Someone already bought one in the other Verizon moto g4 play thread and returned it because it looked like a no go. And without unlocking the bootloader, how would you flash a custom or alternate ROM to use the bands needed for GSM (as mentioned above). That's if it's a firmware thing and not a hardware limitation. If we want an unlocked Moto G4 play, the only option looks like we're shelling out $100 to Amazon for the one with ads or $150 without ads.

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It would probably be a waste of time and $. Someone already bought one in the other Verizon moto g4 play thread and returned it because it looked like a no go. And without unlocking the bootloader, how would you flash a custom or alternate ROM to use the bands needed for GSM (as mentioned above). That's if it's a firmware thing and not a hardware limitation. If we want an unlocked Moto G4 play, the only option looks like we're shelling out $100 to Amazon for the one with ads or $150 without ads.
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please show me in the above link where there is any mention of a needed bootloader unlock or custom rom? stop spreading your negative bs without any factual backup other than your negative assumptions

mrw187 said:
best buy have them $64.99 at the moment hurry hurry someone please completely confirm if unlockable to work on gsm lol
http://www.android.gs/sim-unlock-verizon-moto-e-2015/
this is what you mean a possible unlock method?
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yes, i have 2 moto e 2º from verizon 4G LTE and it work completely in Movistar Mexico, but a relative bring a samsung j1 , from verizon too and it can´t be unlocked, the menu "network" is disable and if yiu try to run network app, it close..... so, i don´t know if all verizon 4G LTE can be unlocked to get gsm signal like the moto e 2 , samsung s4,etc.....

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please show me in the above link where there is any mention of a needed bootloader unlock or custom rom? stop spreading your negative bs without any factual backup other than your negative assumptions
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What link do you need, the link to the product page? Did you even research this phone one little bit before posting or was it a case of post now, think later? What network are you even looking to use this phone on? I'll tell you right now that several of the bands used for other networks are completely missing for this phone (can see this clear as day on any product or spec listing for this phone). Then there's the matter of this phone being carrier locked (it's not as simple as popping in a different sim anymore - Verizon changed their policy this year). People need to stop comparing this to the Moto e from last year because this clearly isn't. What else do you need to know?

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It would probably be a waste of time and $. Someone already bought one in the other Verizon moto g4 play thread and returned it because it looked like a no go. And without unlocking the bootloader, how would you flash a custom or alternate ROM to use the bands needed for GSM (as mentioned above). That's if it's a firmware thing and not a hardware limitation. If we want an unlocked Moto G4 play, the only option looks like we're shelling out $100 to Amazon for the one with ads or $150 without ads.
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EDIT: NEVER MIND. I just realized you were saying they'd need to flash a rom to enable the GSM 2G bands the phone hardware IS capable of. I thought you were trying to say you could magically enable 3g/UMTS bands that it's NOT capable of with a rom lol. Disregard the parts below about enabling bands the hardware isn't capable of, that's my misunderstanding!!
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I don't know what you're smoking bro. It most certainly IS a hardware limitation. You can't just enable bands that the antenna isn't capable of. SOME devices, very rarely, have antennae capable of more bands than are enabled in the radio firmware(NOT the Rom) but those are very few and far between.
Simply put, you can't make a 1609 into a 1607 just by flashing a new radio. If you could, then hell... I'd make every one of my old phones work with all carriers by turning on the bands they don't already have. Sadly, this is not possible.
As I said earlier in the thread, it's capable of EDGE (2g), and some of the GSM LTE bands that CDMA carriers use for data, BUT you wouldn't be able to call/text over LTE and it would fall back to EDGE for voice and sms (so no simultaneous voice and data) if you got a carrier unlock code from Verizon, but most GSM carriers are phasing out EDGE for postpaid accounts so if it's not a prepaid SIM it likely wouldn't register to the network at all for voice calling.
tl;dr unlocking the XT1609 for use on GSM carriers would be a very painful and unpleasant experience on prepaid where calls would go to voicemail when you're using data, and the SIM wouldn't register at all on a contract/postpaid account.

what about international use? is it possibly just locked in usa unlocked international for roaming?

mrw187 said:
what about international use? is it possibly just locked in usa unlocked international for roaming?
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I'm afraid that you're misunderstanding the meaning of "locked" in this scenario. It's probably carrier locked to Verizon prepaid no matter where you take it, but that can be remedied very easily (it was brought to my attention last night in a different forum that there are now unlock codes for these on eBay for around $2.50, so buying an unlock code takes care of that problem). But the real issue is the bands that this phone is capable of using and what is available where you're going and what network you'll be using. I believe the bands Verizon uses are more prevalent over seas, but I'm sure you can find this out with a quick web search.

ryanl2299 said:
It would probably be a waste of time and $. Someone already bought one in the other Verizon moto g4 play thread and returned it because it looked like a no go. And without unlocking the bootloader, how would you flash a custom or alternate ROM to use the bands needed for GSM (as mentioned above). That's if it's a firmware thing and not a hardware limitation. If we want an unlocked Moto G4 play, the only option looks like we're shelling out $100 to Amazon for the one with ads or $150 without ads.
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I'm afraid that you're misunderstanding the meaning of "locked" in this scenario. It's probably carrier locked to Verizon prepaid no matter where you take it, but that can be remedied very easily (it was brought to my attention last night in a different forum that there are now unlock codes for these on eBay for around $2.50, so buying an unlock code takes care of that problem). But the real issue is the bands that this phone is capable of using and what is available where you're going and what network you'll be using. I believe the bands Verizon uses are more prevalent over seas, but I'm sure you can find this out with a quick web search.
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I see. Need to find out what 3g bands get unlocked if any because according to gsmarena the 4g bands on this model are not applicable in my country and rolling 2g only is not worth it.

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EDIT: NEVER MIND. I just realized you were saying they'd need to flash a rom to enable the GSM 2G bands the phone hardware IS capable of. I thought you were trying to say you could magically enable 3g/UMTS bands that it's NOT capable of with a rom lol. Disregard the parts below about enabling bands the hardware isn't capable of, that's my misunderstanding!!
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I don't know what you're smoking bro. It most certainly IS a hardware limitation. You can't just enable bands that the antenna isn't capable of. SOME devices, very rarely, have antennae capable of more bands than are enabled in the radio firmware(NOT the Rom) but those are very few and far between.
Simply put, you can't make a 1609 into a 1607 just by flashing a new radio. If you could, then hell... I'd make every one of my old phones work with all carriers by turning on the bands they don't already have. Sadly, this is not possible.
As I said earlier in the thread, it's capable of EDGE (2g), and some of the GSM LTE bands that CDMA carriers use for data, BUT you wouldn't be able to call/text over LTE and it would fall back to EDGE for voice and sms (so no simultaneous voice and data) if you got a carrier unlock code from Verizon, but most GSM carriers are phasing out EDGE for postpaid accounts so if it's not a prepaid SIM it likely wouldn't register to the network at all for voice calling.
tl;dr unlocking the XT1609 for use on GSM carriers would be a very painful and unpleasant experience on prepaid where calls would go to voicemail when you're using data, and the SIM wouldn't register at all on a contract/postpaid account.
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Part of me says that the disabled bands is a firmware thing rather than a hardware thing since it's much cheaper for moto to make "one phone" with different programming, but it's probably just wishful thinking on my part. Either way, I'm sure Verizon locked these phones down so we'll because of the whole moto e thing last year (hordes of zombies flocked to bestbuy to buy $10 Verizon branded phones only to use them on other networks). All it took was a couple of commands in abd from what I remember (there was an ultra long thread about it at the time). Probably pissed off Verizon and I hope they lost their shirts. I'm sure that these types of phones are subsidized in some way since the unbranded ones are almost always double or more in price (especially with verizon- they usually have cheaper phones but more expensive service - great way to hook you).
And I know exactly what you're talking about with using this in stock form on gsm carriers. If you're in need of a laugh, go check out the thread for Verizon moto g4 play over on slickdeals. There was one poster who got this phone unlocked (via eBay) and was going to try to use this for VOIP with Google voice or something (data only I suppose) since he claimed to have excellent LTE in his region. I believe that he's in for an underwhelming experience and constant missed/dropped calls. I guess it might work if you stand in one spot all day. To each his own. Some people would do just about anything to save a few bucks. Here's a link and their username was TheLao :http://slickdeals.net/f/9195543-16g...ipping-free-store-pickup-best-buy-ebay?page=7

Just got off live chat with motorola with 2 different csrs neither knew anything outside of public info on what bands the xt1609 has or it truely has no 3g gsm bands.
may have to wait until someone who physically has this and can confirm what bands it has once unlocked? i tried searching for an app on store that can tell you available bands on the device but gave up after about 4-5 apps.

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Part of me says that the disabled bands is a firmware thing rather than a hardware thing since it's much cheaper for moto to make "one phone" with different programming, but it's probably just wishful thinking on my part. Either way, I'm sure Verizon locked these phones down so we'll because of the whole moto e thing last year (hordes of zombies flocked to bestbuy to buy $10 Verizon branded phones only to use them on other networks). All it took was a couple of commands in abd from what I remember (there was an ultra long thread about it at the time). Probably pissed off Verizon and I hope they lost their shirts. I'm sure that these types of phones are subsidized in some way since the unbranded ones are almost always double or more in price (especially with verizon- they usually have cheaper phones but more expensive service - great way to hook you).
And I know exactly what you're talking about with using this in stock form on gsm carriers. If you're in need of a laugh, go check out the thread for Verizon moto g4 play over on slickdeals. There was one poster who got this phone unlocked (via eBay) and was going to try to use this for VOIP with Google voice or something (data only I suppose) since he claimed to have excellent LTE in his region. I believe that he's in for an underwhelming experience and constant missed/dropped calls. I guess it might work if you stand in one spot all day. To each his own. Some people would do just about anything to save a few bucks. Here's a link and their username was TheLao :http://slickdeals.net/f/9195543-16g...ipping-free-store-pickup-best-buy-ebay?page=7
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I'm sure in some phones it is probably just a firmware thing. I remember some of the early Kindle fire models that were on the low end were really underclocked high end models with a smaller NAND. If you rooted them and flashed a new kernel, you could enable Bluetooth and set the clock speed up to match the higher end model and all you'd be missing is some storage. In the case of the Moto g4 play, though, it's probably cheaper to just leave out the physical antenna hardware for non VZW bands than disabling them via firmware. That's likely just a matter of dropping a step from the assembly process, so it wouldn't cost them any extra... Might even save a few pennies per run. But I'd imagine on high end flagship devices where it's a different model for every carrier, it's just a firmware thing. That's probably the REAL reason some phones have locked bootloaders. Like the LG G4, the only one with bootloader unlock is the international version with all bands enabled. I bet if I COULD unlock the bootloader on my sprint LG G4, I could turn it into a GSM phone.
And LOLOLOL about that link. Dude is going to hate life. When my LG G4 was in for repair and the Moto G4 Play hadn't shipped yet, I was using a LG G Pad F7 LTE tablet with Google voice, using hangouts and hangouts dialer for sms and voice. Missed calls SO many times because it would take too long to start ringing on my end, and I'm in one of the major US markets so LTE coverage is literally everywhere.

Welp, TIFU. I bought two of the Moto g4 play at walmart... got home and found out that Verizon locks 4g phones again. Paid for an unlock, found the phone doesn't allow connecting to GSM networks, but that is because even with a GSM sim in the phone it still only connects to Verizon. With my t-mobile sim in the phone, I make a call and get the "your call is being transfered to a representative who will take your credit card info to complete this call". Leave it to verizon to only allow the phone to connect to their network even after you unlock it...

Xt1609 doesn't have connection of gsm or 2g
Hi! I bought a "Moto 4G play" of Veirzon USA (XT1609). Unfortunately, My network operator in Mexico (Telcel) hasn't compatible with the VoLTE.
The cellphone doesn't have connection of GSM or 2G only LTE 4G. I did unlocked it and use everything, photo, video, WhatsApp. The cellphone recognize my SIM Card and network carrier, but I can't make, or receive, calls.

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Welp, TIFU. I bought two of the Moto g4 play at walmart... got home and found out that Verizon locks 4g phones again. Paid for an unlock, found the phone doesn't allow connecting to GSM networks, but that is because even with a GSM sim in the phone it still only connects to Verizon. With my t-mobile sim in the phone, I make a call and get the "your call is being transfered to a representative who will take your credit card info to complete this call". Leave it to verizon to only allow the phone to connect to their network even after you unlock it...
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Well, that's what the Moto E 2nd gen did out of the box as well, they removed the setting to swap CDMA/GSM in the menu, but the folks over in that part of the forum figured out that using the app "Network" from the play store, and a sequence of turning on/off airplane mode, they were able to switch it from CDMA to GSM and make it stick. Otherwise, it would keep trying to connect to Verizon just like you describe.
So it doesn't mean anything that you didn't get it to work immediately after unlocking. You probably have to force it off CDMA in a similar fashion. Bigger issue is whether or not the phone will be able to actually access the appropriate bands you'd need, whether because the hardware doesn't support it or because it is disabled in firmware. We don't really know for sure yet. But if you've come this far and have a penchant for torture but don't want to give up until you know for certain, give it a try!

Mi note 2 with Verizon

Yeah, I know it's been asked before but I don't feel confident enough to pull the trigger on it to test. I am on Verizon, I have a SIM card I could use in it that's already activated ( currently in a iPhone 6 Plus ) I see it does support CDMA and LTE bands, So does it really work fully with no drawbacks?
Thanks

Verizon/Mi Note 2 GLOBAL EDITION
2G: cdmaOne (IS-95)
3G: CDMA2000 (IMT‑MC), 1xEV-DO
4G: Band 2 (1900MHz), Band 4 (AWS), Band 13 (700MHz)
Verizon also offers LTE on
If you presently have any friends or family living/near where you would use the phone day-to-day with an Android phone on Verizon, I think this works best if you've rooted it, download the LTE Discovery app from the Play Store and use it to determine which 4G bands you are encountering primarily "in the wild" during your day. According to Wikipedia, Verizon only offers LTE on Bands 2, 4, and 13 in the US. So in theory the Mi Note 2 GLOBAL EDITION supports all of VZW's bands.

juchmis said:
Verizon/Mi Note 2 GLOBAL EDITION
2G: cdmaOne (IS-95)
3G: CDMA2000 (IMT‑MC), 1xEV-DO
4G: Band 2 (1900MHz), Band 4 (AWS), Band 13 (700MHz)
Verizon also offers LTE on
If you presently have any friends or family living/near where you would use the phone day-to-day with an Android phone on Verizon, I think this works best if you've rooted it, download the LTE Discovery app from the Play Store and use it to determine which 4G bands you are encountering primarily "in the wild" during your day. According to Wikipedia, Verizon only offers LTE on Bands 2, 4, and 13 in the US. So in theory the Mi Note 2 GLOBAL EDITION supports all of VZW's bands.
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Currently I have a iPhone 6 plus and established I use band 4 at my home and work, Global version supports all LTE bands I read. So yeah it should work right? Just pop my current sim in. I talked to another guy on this forum who posted a screen shot of it working on a pre paid Verizon sim and he said it's worked fine. There's just so little info on this phone working on Verizon and it make me nervous.

AtsuiPanda said:
Currently I have a iPhone 6 plus and established I use band 4 at my home and work, Global version supports all LTE bands I read. So yeah it should work right? Just pop my current sim in. I talked to another guy on this forum who posted a screen shot of it working on a pre paid Verizon sim and he said it's worked fine. There's just so little info on this phone working on Verizon and it make me nervous.
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There are no reasons why it would not work. It supports all 4G LTE bands which Verizon uses, which means it should get the fastest 4G signal anywhere that Verizon's spectrum reaches. That represents the best case, as in phones sold by Verizon for use on their network can only be at most on par with it for 4G support.
It also appears to support all 3G protocols and voice protocols which Verizon uses.
Hard to say whether it will work immediately upon having your present SIM inserted. You may be required to make some kind of contact with Verizon to establish a change of handset, which may be as simple as having the phone's unique IMEI read to them over the phone (or even dialed in after phoning an automated system).

There's no need for any contact with Verizon. Just put the active SIM in and it works fine. I have my Mi Note 2 Global working just fine on Verizon including VoLTE. This required no contact with Verizon nor any inputs in the device info pages on my Verizon account online. In fact I would probably *not* provide an IMEI to Verizon as they will almost surely not allow activation with the Mi's IMEI...though I don't think they'd block it or anything.
I'm the "guy" the OP is referring to above...I've confirmed that all LTE bands including 2, 4, and 13...and CDMA 1X calls and EvDO data all work fine on this phone...not sure if it's CDMA BC0 or 1 in my area (I think it's 0) but both should work. VoLTE is also confirmed working perfectly right out of the box.
To the OP - what additional information are you looking for to determine whether or not this phone is right for you? I'm happy to help but I'm not understanding what else you might need to know as pretty much everything has been revealed vis-a-vis Verizon and the Mi Note 2 Global and it definitely works fine...if you're nervous about it I probably would suggest a different handset unless you really need the dual SIM functionality with Verizon...in which case it's either this phone or the ZTE Axon 7 that you'll be limited to...the Axon 7 is a better phone all in all IMO but is more finicky software-wise in my experience and takes a little more user tweaking to get Verizon to work as well as it should (some people have really struggled with the Axon 7 on Verizon but I had smooth sailing except that I had to use a GSM SIM for initial setup and also after OTAs to sort of "clear" the radio out). The Xiaomi Mi Note 2, on the other hand, has much better connectivity and has given me zero problems on Verizon...I'm actually really impressed with it in this respect.
But at the same time I find the screen on the Xiaomi Mi Note 2 to be grossly inferior to that of the ZTE...the speakers too. And MIUI is kind of meh but I know some people love it...but I guess that's kinda off topic!

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There's no need for any contact with Verizon. Just put the active SIM in and it works fine. I have my Mi Note 2 Global working just fine on Verizon including VoLTE. This required no contact with Verizon nor any inputs in the device info pages on my Verizon account online. In fact I would probably *not* provide an IMEI to Verizon as they will almost surely not allow activation with the Mi's IMEI...though I don't think they'd block it or anything.
I'm the "guy" the OP is referring to above...I've confirmed that all LTE bands including 2, 4, and 13...and CDMA 1X calls and EvDO data all work fine on this phone...not sure if it's CDMA BC0 or 1 in my area (I think it's 0) but both should work. VoLTE is also confirmed working perfectly right out of the box.
To the OP - what additional information are you looking for to determine whether or not this phone is right for you? I'm happy to help but I'm not understanding what else you might need to know as pretty much everything has been revealed vis-a-vis Verizon and the Mi Note 2 Global and it definitely works fine...if you're nervous about it I probably would suggest a different handset unless you really need the dual SIM functionality with Verizon...in which case it's either this phone or the ZTE Axon 7 that you'll be limited to...the Axon 7 is a better phone all in all IMO but is more finicky software-wise in my experience and takes a little more user tweaking to get Verizon to work as well as it should (some people have really struggled with the Axon 7 on Verizon but I had smooth sailing except that I had to use a GSM SIM for initial setup and also after OTAs to sort of "clear" the radio out). The Xiaomi Mi Note 2, on the other hand, has much better connectivity and has given me zero problems on Verizon...I'm actually really impressed with it in this respect.
But at the same time I find the screen on the Xiaomi Mi Note 2 to be grossly inferior to that of the ZTE...the speakers too. And MIUI is kind of meh but I know some people love it...but I guess that's kinda off topic!
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Lol you have been most helpful, I made this thread before I contacted you is all I will be ordering the note 2 soon. But if I have any questions after and if I do run into problems I'd PM ya. Thanks again, man.

flyer_andy said:
There's no need for any contact with Verizon. Just put the active SIM in and it works fine. I have my Mi Note 2 Global working just fine on Verizon including VoLTE. This required no contact with Verizon nor any inputs in the device info pages on my Verizon account online. In fact I would probably *not* provide an IMEI to Verizon as they will almost surely not allow activation with the Mi's IMEI...though I don't think they'd block it or anything.
I'm the "guy" the OP is referring to above...I've confirmed that all LTE bands including 2, 4, and 13...and CDMA 1X calls and EvDO data all work fine on this phone...not sure if it's CDMA BC0 or 1 in my area (I think it's 0) but both should work. VoLTE is also confirmed working perfectly right out of the box.
To the OP - what additional information are you looking for to determine whether or not this phone is right for you? I'm happy to help but I'm not understanding what else you might need to know as pretty much everything has been revealed vis-a-vis Verizon and the Mi Note 2 Global and it definitely works fine...if you're nervous about it I probably would suggest a different handset unless you really need the dual SIM functionality with Verizon...in which case it's either this phone or the ZTE Axon 7 that you'll be limited to...the Axon 7 is a better phone all in all IMO but is more finicky software-wise in my experience and takes a little more user tweaking to get Verizon to work as well as it should (some people have really struggled with the Axon 7 on Verizon but I had smooth sailing except that I had to use a GSM SIM for initial setup and also after OTAs to sort of "clear" the radio out). The Xiaomi Mi Note 2, on the other hand, has much better connectivity and has given me zero problems on Verizon...I'm actually really impressed with it in this respect.
But at the same time I find the screen on the Xiaomi Mi Note 2 to be grossly inferior to that of the ZTE...the speakers too. And MIUI is kind of meh but I know some people love it...but I guess that's kinda off topic!
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I do wanna ask you something though, What's the point of using two SIMs? also whats vis a vis?

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I do wanna ask you something though, What's the point of using two SIMs? also whats vis a vis?
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In my case it's to improve data coverage but for most people it's because they travel internationally and need a second operator in the other country or they do it so they can have a work-related phone number and personal number in the same device.
"Vis-a-vis" just means "in relation to" for all practical purposes.

Unlocked One Plus 8 Verizon Nationwide 5G

I have an unlocked One Plus 8 pro and verizon and my area now has nationwide 5g. I don't see it though as it still shows LTE. I know this phone doesn't support the UW and we don't have that yet anyway. How can I tell if this is on 5G or is there a way to force it? I read they use band 71 and this phone does support that and my account is setup for 5G.

Anybody?

I guess beta 3 added what we needed for it cause now it shows this on dialer code *#*#4636#*#. Also in setting - sim we got this. So I'll say yeah we got it now. Please my data speed greatly improved over beta 2 with Verizon.

I can get to it via the dialer and manually select it but still no nationwide 5G on Verizon. One Plus says it's Verizon and Verizon says it's the device.

I tried to put it just on NR setting but no go for service were I live. But I'll be heading to the city area on Thursday and I'll try it again with speed tests to see. Verizon has been playing with the towers in my town, not sure if it's the 5G convertion or just plan work but like I said before, my speed test have gone up. I've been getting LTE+ on my phone when I wasn't getting it before the new beta update.

GrandMstrBud said:
I can get to it via the dialer and manually select it but still no nationwide 5G on Verizon. One Plus says it's Verizon and Verizon says it's the device.
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still no nationwide on VZW?
btw, nice username

Nope I am pretty sure all verizon has to do is allow the IMEI but their not that smart or they want you to buy their locked phones

GrandMstrBud said:
Nope I am pretty sure all verizon has to do is allow the IMEI but their not that smart or they want you to buy their locked phones
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I'm not in America but from what I've read, Verizon have tried to monopolize certain aspects of 5G over there, I think with the device that they provide vs any other.
Tbh though if you've got the international device then it should absolutely work, to prove its 5G capable, test it with a friend's 5G SIM, I'm sure it'll work.. Take some screen shots with it in action then you can point your finger firmly at Verizon and tell them it's on them..also you could try your SIM in another 5G capable phone then that's the last piece of the puzzle, you're phone's capable, their SIMs capable, what's the issue?
If it still doesn't provide 5G in yet another phone then it's their network mate.
If you didn't get your phone from them (international version) then swerve them altogether, I wouldn't pay for something that I wasn't getting, I'd want a nice big discount at the very least.
Did *#*#4636#*#* show the technology available?

Yes if I go to phone information NR is there and with a T-Mobile SIM it did get 5G. This is the unlocked version directly from One Plus.

Are you on the US variant or the International variant of the device?

https://www.reddit.com/r/verizon/co...amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=comments_view_all
I followed the instructions from someone on that link. Was able to get 5G.