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I love using a2dp in my car stereo... sound quality is great, and I love carrying my tunes wirelessly from the Mogul to the car speakers (Sony BT25000 stereo head unit installed in car).
Only problem is that I try to keep the screen off to save battery power, but everytime I press a command on my stereo (pause, next, previous, etc...), it wakes up the phone and I need to screen toggle it off again each time!
This is very annoying, so I was wondering if anyone had any experience with this problem, and is there a workaround?
I was thinking of writing some sort of MortScript to constantly check if the screen is on, and if so apply a screen toggle command, but it seems like this may create the problem of an infinity loop when I DO want to use it (turn on device, mortscript turns off screen off right away, repeat). Any suggestions?
Thanks!
Either use CorePlayer instead or install a screensaver program like slide2lock
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Either use CorePlayer instead or install a screensaver program like slide2lock
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Why would Slide2Unlock be any better than the regular locking feature that comes built in to WM? Slide2 is slick looking, but isn't it just a fancy interface for something that is done natively (and with less memory overhead)? I've never used it so maybe I've got the wrong idea, but it doesn't seem to address my problem here, which is that I want to keep the screen off (not just prevent screen taps) to save my battery!
Are you sure that CorePlayer won't wake up as well? I'm under the impression that the OS is waking it up, regardless of whether I'm using Windows Media Player or not.
I'd love to be wrong about both of these points, so can anyone confirm any of this?
CorePlayer doesn't wake the screen when using AVRCP. Try it and see.
Problem is, Coreplayer costs $$, and I can't justify buying it since TCPMP is free (and is modded to play native streaming youtube, which I beleive the coreplayer version does not do at the moment), and Media Player works with A2DP as well as Voice Command (can cue up songs by saying them... Example: "Play Dream Theater" or "Next Track"- but this works only with WMP).
So, I've gotten used to using both players in different situations and intend to keep using them both, so you can understand why paying for a "third" media player seems a bit silly.
I tried using Slide2Unlock since it had some features to shut off the screen after 5 seconds, which should do the trick for me (when the device wakes up from a command, it would shut back off after a few seconds).
This works well in theory, but the problem is that when the screen wakes up from a remote media command, the slide2unlock seems to lose focus, and is no longer the active program running in the foreground, because it does NOT shut the screen back off! If I tap the screen (which theoretically makes Slide2Lock the active app again), then it works, but having to tap the screen each time isn't any better than before... doesn't this negate the purpose of having it here?
Does anyone have any other suggestions?
Maybe I'll have to try having 3 media players (sigh)... its nice having options on Windows Mobile, but there should be a better way!
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Mortplayer to the rescue!
Holy cow that Mort guy thought of EVERYTHING!
Mortplayer supports AVRCP and has a setting to shut the screen in a matter of seconds if there is no activity!
It also has a very small memory footprint, and has a lot of great controls (remembers the track and last location since last time program closed, very skinnable, has a today plugin, etc...), just WOW... all for free?!
I still have tcpmp for video and windows media for voice command, but I don't mind having mortplayer as my primary audio player, especially since its so great and the price is right!
Anyone with my problem should get this app ASAP.
Latest Feature List:
1. Settings Page changes (different locales,text inputs).
2.view running, 3rd party apps (task manager without termination)
3. New windows opening/closing animation effect
4. Notepad
5. Global clock
6. extra settings (auto-rotate and such)
7. On screen keyboard
8. Shadow effects on buttons
9. Stereo Bluetooth
10. Video Camera
video ftw!
Video was something I always wondered why they did not put in. We can upload photos to picasa, you would think they would have done the same for youtube from the start.
A2DP is very important for me, but I kind of wonder how it will affect the battery life... I might just resort to the already-recommended switching off of 3G and GPS connectivity until needed, but they really are convenient to both have at any given time.
I might have to do what I did with my Uni and get a huge, ugly extended battery...
on screen keyboard
I can't wait for the a2dp profile. I love my sony BT stereo headset, the sound quality is amazing. Hopefully the range is good. I remember on my kaiser at first the range was about 10 feet, I tweaked those a2dp settings for months before I got anywhere near the advertised 30 foot range. I guess my second most awaited feature is gonna be the extension of the option menu. I looooove options. Thats the one thing I miss most about windows mobile, was the ability to change each and every option you could ever imagine. Hopefully android sways away from the "user friendliness" that apple fanboys are always bragging about. Screw user friendliness, I want my cupcake option menu to be 47 feet long, with a bunch of options that I have no idea what they do , and sub-options on those ones, and so fourth. That way I can LEARN more. User friendliness is another way of saying "No brains required! even a 3 year old can use it!!" Screw that. Just sayin'.
Once you have used it, it is hard to go back so I say stereo bluetooth for sure. This leash is driving me nuts...lol. After that I would say a native virtual keypad would be nice.
I really need the stereo bluetooth! I keep having to put the sim card back in my old trinity for workouts so i can use my stereo bluetooth headphones (no pockets in my shorts to put the phone when working out).....
I wouldn't say no to any of the other stuff though
They're adding a notepad? Any word on whether or not it will sync automatically with Google's notebook (it has a section for "Mobile notes")?
The camera in this thing is so pathetic, I don't think a video camera is going to be of much use to us. I'll go with the stereo bluetooth as well.
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Its like Christmas but better!!!
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Hi.
I'm on the fence on switching from an iPhone 3G to an xperia play. I'm kind of hesitant about the music control in xperia play, since I've never used Android before but the gamepad is slowly drawing me in since the iPhone emulation scene (the ones that I like) is mostly dead due to zodttd quiting ios and pandora scene.
Here are my questions:
1. Does this phone have a shortcut like the iphone where you can quickly control the music by pressing the home button twice and clicking on a media playback icon?
2. Does number 1 work when the phone is on sleep like the iphone?
3. Can 2 be done on just inside the pocket of you pants with minimal eye contact with the phone?
4. Does the position of the 3.5 jack feel weird/flaky when the phone is vertically set in your pocket with earphones attached?
5. Is it worth buying the phone now? I'm thinking this phone will end up being worth $350 at some point in a few months here? It's currently $534 here. I'm thinking of either waiting for the iPhone5 or buying this.
6. Is true this phone is picky on earphones? I tend to break my earphones (only one ear works) a lot so I tend to buy cheap ones. I think I've broken 3 official iphone headsets, 2 sony earphones and 2 sennheiser earphones, so cheap is in for me as of now.
7. I'd also like to ask if there is an application like flicktunes where you can control the player by flicking up, right, left, down with one or two fingers?
Thanks in advance.
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1. You have shortcuts for almost anything on any android device.
Configure it the way you please for any application, with settings & options almost unlimited.
2.You need to specify if you mean phone is in sleep mode with the screen guard enabled or not.
If you are talking wen screen guard in enabled, certain apps have an option to not let the phone lock.
3. i'll skip this cos am not sure why you want to do this.. it's not very difficult to pull the phone out and stop music (or whatever) from the notification bar.
4. Feels quite fine.
5. IS it worth buying this phone? am not sure about that.. depends on your preference. but my advice would be an android device is a definitely more user friendly and customizable.. and free.. open source remember
6. any kind of ear phone will work... keep ur ears safe
7. almost any app there is for the iphone or windows fone or anything that has some usability, there is an android app.
thanks for asking!
I was a former 3GS owner and I can't say enough good things about the Xperia Play. I don't miss my iPhone at all.
The only gripe I have is that the level of brightness is never going to be as high as it is on the iPhone. Other than that you can customize Android to do a lot of things like the iPhone. Starting music is as easy as putting a music control widget on your homescreen. If you root you can also use a button remapper app to map media controls to any hardware key on the device, so in your pocket... easy to play/stop/ff/rewind with blind button pushing. You can even use an app called Tasker to do even further automation of almost any kind.
The headphones jack feels solid, never flakes on me, doesn't feel weird on the side. I use Sony Bluetooth headphones 90% of the time and it never has problems connecting either (cords annoy me on any device).
If you like emulation and games, get this device. It's easily the best phone to handle it. Touchscreen gaming will never be able to match the tactile response and level of control you get from real built-in controller keys, period.
fvig2001 said:
Hi.
I'm on the fence on switching from an iPhone 3G to an xperia play. I'm kind of hesitant about the music control in xperia play, since I've never used Android before but the gamepad is slowly drawing me in since the iPhone emulation scene (the ones that I like) is mostly dead due to zodttd quiting ios and pandora scene.
Here are my questions:
1. Does this phone have a shortcut like the iphone where you can quickly control the music by pressing the home button twice and clicking on a media playback icon?
2. Does number 1 work when the phone is on sleep like the iphone?
3. Can 2 be done on just inside the pocket of you pants with minimal eye contact with the phone?
4. Does the position of the 3.5 jack feel weird/flaky when the phone is vertically set in your pocket with earphones attached?
5. Is it worth buying the phone now? I'm thinking this phone will end up being worth $350 at some point in a few months here? It's currently $534 here. I'm thinking of either waiting for the iPhone5 or buying this.
6. Is true this phone is picky on earphones? I tend to break my earphones (only one ear works) a lot so I tend to buy cheap ones. I think I've broken 3 official iphone headsets, 2 sony earphones and 2 sennheiser earphones, so cheap is in for me as of now.
7. I'd also like to ask if there is an application like flicktunes where you can control the player by flicking up, right, left, down with one or two fingers?
Thanks in advance.
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1. There is a music widget, which you can place on any one of your homescreens, which has all the controls.
2. I'm not sure how you can use on screen controls while the screen is off...considering this isn't possible on iphone either I'll assume you mean lock screen controls, in which case yes, you can.
3. If you have an in-line remote you can. I've also heard of assigning long press volume up and down for next and previous track, for pocket navigation.
4. If you have a 90 degree jack on your earphones, then it's fine.
5. That's all a matter of opinion. In my opinion, I'd much rather go for the play rather than the iphone, ESPECIALLY if your doing console emulation. On screen controllers have NOTHING on physical buttons, period.
6. No, no issues here.
7. Yes, because you can download different music players in the market, you can choose the one that best suits your needs. I have seen ones with gesture controls.
All in all, in the switch to Android you can literally feel the grip on your balls loosen once you figure out all the options you have.
If you are going to use headphones for listening to music, you can install poweramp and use heatphone button to control your music. A single press of the headphone button can be used to start or pause the music. Similarly double press can be used to skip to next track and triple press to skip to previous track.
2. I'm not sure how you can use on screen controls while the screen is off...considering this isn't possible on iphone either I'll assume you mean lock screen controls, in which case yes, you can.
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Yes it is. If your iphone is in sleep mode you can double click the home button and it brings up the music player. You don't need to unlock the home screen.
And no I could not do this from the play. It would be nice.
I also came from the 3GS. It is different for sure but worth the adjustment.
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Yes it is. If your iphone is in sleep mode you can double click the home button and it brings up the music player. You don't need to unlock the home screen.
And no I could not do this from the play. It would be nice.
I also came from the 3GS. It is different for sure but worth the adjustment.
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So what's wrong with lock screen music controls? I know it doesn't behave exactly like the iphone but the end result is the same, music controls without unlocking.
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So what's wrong with lock screen music controls? I know it doesn't behave exactly like the iphone but the end result is the same, music controls without unlocking.
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Umm. That was the question. He asked if there was a lock screen controls.
I said I have not seen any controls from the lock screen. Gees, why don't you relax? I said he will get use to the difference.
Edit: And yes you can do it on the iphone and you said you can't
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Umm. That was the question. He asked if there was a lock screen controls.
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No, he didn't
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I said I have not seen any controls from the lock screen.
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Try a different music player
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Gees, why don't you relax? I said he will get use to the difference.
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Was I yelling?
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Edit: And yes you can do it on the iphone and you said you can't
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...What? When did I say that?
Why do I get the feeling you just like arguing...
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2. I'm not sure how you can use on screen controls while the screen is off...considering this isn't possible on iphone either I'll assume you mean lock screen controls, in which case yes, you can.
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This is where. I just said it is if you double click the home button. It brings up the music player without unlocking the phone.
I haven't found a way to do this on the Play is all I said. I didn't say it's not possible.
Edit: and I'm not trying to argue. I was just pointing out that you can do it on the iPhone, iPod touch and iPad.
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This is where. I just said it is if you double click the home button. It brings up the music player without unlocking the phone.
I haven't found a way to do this on the Play is all I said. I didn't say it's not possible.
Edit: and I'm not trying to argue. I was just pointing out that you can do it on the iPhone, iPod touch and iPad.
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2. I'm not sure how you can use on screen controls while the screen is off...considering this isn't possible on iphone either I'll assume you mean lock screen controls
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You completely missed the first part of the sentence, I was obviously referring to something else. I didn't know about the double click home while sleeping while playing music feature.
And i was simply telling you about it. I didn't mean to offend you.
Thanks for all the replies most of them were really helpful. I'm still on the fence though since I'm still thinking of the number of apps in the app store vs android market (I have an ipad, so this point maybe moot except for camera apps).
I am also worried about the possibility of a follow-up to this phone and the dpad functionality on fighting games (see other thread). I'll probably buy the XP (if ever) after 2 weeks since the Zagg here will only have it by then (Considering buying the dock and too lazy too remove case every time).
Hopefully I'll adapt to the quickly to the controls in the widgets and the syncing using iTunes through 3rd party software.
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Yes it is. If your iphone is in sleep mode you can double click the home button and it brings up the music player. You don't need to unlock the home screen.
And no I could not do this from the play. It would be nice.
I also came from the 3GS. It is different for sure but worth the adjustment.
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DoubleTwist has this option, puts a skip/pause and play controls on its own lock screen. there is also a tap to unlock button which then goes to the handsets lock screen.
Coming from iPhone its also great as the desktop app uses iTunes and has wireless syncing as well.
fvig2001 said:
Thanks for all the replies most of them were really helpful. I'm still on the fence though since I'm still thinking of the number of apps in the app store vs android market (I have an ipad, so this point maybe moot except for camera apps).
I am also worried about the possibility of a follow-up to this phone and the dpad functionality on fighting games (see other thread). I'll probably buy the XP (if ever) after 2 weeks since the Zagg here will only have it by then (Considering buying the dock and too lazy too remove case every time).
Hopefully I'll adapt to the quickly to the controls in the widgets and the syncing using iTunes through 3rd party software.
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Have the iPad and the play, you won't miss anything if you have both
I've been using Pandora for awhile now...signed up for the Google Play Music All Access trial on June 30th to lock in the $7.99 price. I love many of the features...but the radio has been an utter failure for me, compared to Pandora.
The app itself, running on my S4, is quite good. It even does a lot better with my car's bluetooth than I expected...no explicit integration like Pandora, but it still works almost the same minus the onscreen song-time bar, cover art, and thumbs up/down buttons. It's not the app or phone that's failing me though...
I find that Pandora learns what I like very quickly. It takes only a few hours of listening and hitting thumbs up/down to teach it to play mostly songs I like.
...on the other hand, I find that All Access Radio does not seem to learn at all. In fact, I am getting the feeling that the thumbs up/down only changes what stations Google recommends I listen to...I spend more time hitting thumbs down on the myriad of random songs it throws at me than I do actually listening to songs I like.
It makes me miss Pandora and wonder if I'm not going to switch back once this trial ends and I have to pay for it...I assume it will get better but I'm really disappointed with the radio so far!
Anyone else experiencing the same? Thanks!
Agree completely. Was really looking forward to using this service like Pandora but it just doesn't work that well. A problem I have found is the radio playlist it does generate is far too small. During a typical work day, the radio could play the same song a hand full of times. If I wanted that, I would just listen to the radio.
It is still new and Google has been updating so we can only hope that Google keeps at it to improve the service.
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Agree completely. Was really looking forward to using this service like Pandora but it just doesn't work that well. A problem I have found is the radio playlist it does generate is far too small. During a typical work day, the radio could play the same song a hand full of times. If I wanted that, I would just listen to the radio.
It is still new and Google has been updating so we can only hope that Google keeps at it to improve the service.
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Yea the radio portion does seem to be lacking at the moment but I'm 100% positive it's still a work in progress for Google.
On the bright side I am enjoying Google Music. $7.99 is cheap for unlimited music and since it's off Google I feel like it will be more open then say Rhapsody.
Yep, same boat as you all.
Really hoping to see some improvements going forward or I may cancel my subscription.
Same as you guys, I have Pandora One and love the radio service, but the audio quality is pretty crappy compared to other things. I've been wanting to switch, and I was hoping All Access would be it. The audio quality is MUCH better, and it actually transmits song info to my car via A2DP - something Pandora doesn't. Remote control also works flawlessly with Play Music, whereas in Pandora it's pretty buggy for whatever reason. I have to hit "next" 3 or 4 times before it will switch tracks, whereas in Play Music it switches immediately.
But, the All Access radio service just sucks at this point. I'll probably try it again when it's matured a bit.
Thanks guys - glad to hear others are disappointed with the radio. Several Google searches yielded no discussions about the poor radio service!
I'm quite confident that Google is putting a lot of effort into this and it will only get better. Meanwhile they've probably convinced me to hang around in the meantime for the $7.99 early-adopter price...I guess I can just pay for both GPMAA and Pandora or go with Pandora free for awhile...
I agree that the radio is limited.. but the amount of music offered is pretty freakin dope. It may take an hour or two's work once every couple/few months to keep an updated playlist on what you're feeling.. but the amount to choose from makes it worth it to me. netflix for music. we were all thinkin it.
I just switched over to All Access from Pandora and I have to say I like it a lot better. It may not learn what I like but I can pick any song I want and skip and reorder my playlist. Pandora just played the same stuff over and over too much for me, some days it would play stuff I liked and others it played every song I hated. Another thing that is a HUGE plus for me is the audio quality on All Access, Pandora just sounds like crap through my car stereo. Google sounds better on just my front 3.5" speakers than Pandora does with the 6x9's in the back playing. i'm not sure how much more data Google will be using(my guess is a lot) but I'm not too worried about that since I get 10GB a month.
I normally have my phone paired to my helmet with a Sena S20. I can normally issue voice commands, play music, take calls, etc...
Not anymore. On beta 3, it will only let me play music if I physically press play on the phone, which I can't do as I ride down the road with it in my jacked pocket.
The pause and fast forward buttons, don't work. If I enable Google now, I can tell it to pause music, and it will. If I tell it to play music, it won't. If I tell it to play music without the headset, it offers to play it but I have to click on the screen on the app.
Basically, Google now isn't doing most of the things it used to on other phones. And it doesn't let my bt device control the music like it should.
I just paired the headset to my wife's iPhone and it works perfectly.
It used to work on my essential, my op5t, pixel2 xl and op3. No longer works with the essential and I just did a clean reset last week.
Stock, no root. No mods.
Any ideas? I am trying so hard to love this phone but this and other bugs are making it really hard.
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I normally have my phone paired to my helmet with a Sena S20. I can normally issue voice commands, play music, take calls, etc...
Not anymore. On beta 3, it will only let me play music if I physically press play on the phone, which I can't do as I ride down the road with it in my jacked pocket.
The pause and fast forward buttons, don't work. If I enable Google now, I can tell it to pause music, and it will. If I tell it to play music, it won't. If I tell it to play music without the headset, it offers to play it but I have to click on the screen on the app.
Basically, Google now isn't doing most of the things it used to on other phones. And it doesn't let my bt device control the music like it should.
I just paired the headset to my wife's iPhone and it works perfectly.
It used to work on my essential, my op5t, pixel2 xl and op3. No longer works with the essential and I just did a clean reset last week.
Stock, no root. No mods.
Any ideas? I am trying so hard to love this phone but this and other bugs are making it really hard.
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Update to latest Google now. Older version did exactly what you said.
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It says its on the latest version. I don't see anything newer in the play store?
SOmehow I got the controls on the headset to work last night on the ride home. Not sure why it was messing up but it now appears to be watching. It might be some sort of conflict with my Android Wear watch. Maybe only one device can control audio at a time? I dunno...
But this Google Now/Assistant problem happens with both Android Auto, and when my phone is just sitting on my desk not connected to anything.
Normally I tell it "Play Music", and it just shuffles the 500 or so songs that are downloaded as MP3's onto the phone, and it plays them through Google Play Music... If I tell it "Play Bruno Mars" it just automatically plays all the Bruno Mars songs... Same with Android Auto.
Now when I tell it those commands, it just brings up the google play music app and I have to then push buttons and play what I want. It's all manual, which defeats the entire purpose of "hands free"... When on Android Auto and I give the same command, it will try to play something from the cloud rather than what I have on the device, but it never does, it just sits there spinning...
I don't like Samsung or any of the devices with curved edge displays... the Pixel2 XL is great but the screens from LG are crap. The OP5T is brilliant, but doesn't get VoLTE on AT&T, so no HD Calling or voice and data on LTE at the same time... The Essential is solid hardware wise, but plagued with it's own bugs and now apparently this Android bug... If I can't get a damned flagship Android phone that I like, that actually works properly... I might have to go back to an iPhone... I can't keep dropping hundreds of dollars on phones for them to "sorta work" or or lack key features...
What can I do to solve this issue, if its saying that I am on the latest version already?
What I am finding is that this is a problem going back to October? Google changed Assistant, so that you can no longer use voice commands to play local music on your device hands free, unless you pay for a subscription?
So, not an essential bug, it's a Google Assistant thing where they now want you to pay $10 a month to be able to use voice commands to listen to the music that you already own. What BS is that?
Google, soon to be out Appling Apple... LOL
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Google, soon to be out Appling Apple... LOL
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LMAO