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I would be interested to find out what people thought were good and bad about the wizard, as this will change for what people want to get out of their phone / pda. If you have time could you list your pros and cons of the Wizard? Thanks, heres mine...
PROS
Phone / Text works good
Games are excellent
Can connect to the internet through wi-fi / bluetooth / t-mobile
MSN
The keyboard
Touch screen
Easy to navigate
MP3 player with up to 2gb storage
Can play videos
Can be used as a webcam
Calendar works well
MP3 ringtones
CONS
Controls for some games are difficult to use
Sometimes my alarm doesnt go off...
Hmmm... I broke my headpohnes...
I cant think of any!!! I love this phone too much
Here are mine
PROS
Excellent communication abilities
QWERTY keyboard
Organizer
CONS
Not enough CPU speed
In spite of this it is great!
That would be "Wizard Pros & Cons" - I'm an apostrophe nazi
I was going to write a full review but this is easier. So:
Pros:
* Great keyboard, innovative input design.
* Nice, large screen
Cons:
* The operating system for being unreliable and hard to use (definite feature creep getting in the way of useability and maturity).
* Connectivity (wifi & BT) seems sketchy at best
* Poor battery life
* Hardware unreliabilty
BT and Wifi works fine for me.
Battery life is comparable with any phone I've had previously - I regularly get 2.5 days with some average usage and with calls. That's using Wifi and GPRS too.
Install some crap like phonealarm or Wisbar and it drops through the floor, but leave a vanilla install and it's pretty good IMO.
Maybe it's just my battery, but with moderate use (music & frequent calls) I pretty much require a recharge every day. Seems the state of phones these days. I remember the time when a phone would last a week! :x
True, but they were also useless blocks of concrete which could barely make a call, let alone play video and music, organise your life, surf the web, etc.
for my Cingular 8125
PRO:
eliminate multiple devices and performs those functions well
keyboard
exellent conectivety options
CON:
mobile Windows Media player interface and functions
face buttons get activated easily in a bag or pocket (so i end up calling people)
Sir.B said:
CON:
face buttons get activated easily in a bag or pocket (so i end up calling people)
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1. Go to Settings, Buttons and there is a tab that says "Lock"
2. Choose "Lock all buttons except power button".
3. Place phone in your pocket without worries.
4. When you need to use the phone, press the power button and call.
Yorch said:
Sir.B said:
CON:
face buttons get activated easily in a bag or pocket (so i end up calling people)
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1. Go to Settings, Buttons and there is a tab that says "Lock"
2. Choose "Lock all buttons except power button".
3. Place phone in your pocket without worries.
4. When you need to use the phone, press the power button and call.
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i set that setting...
but when on the bus and listening to music the phone is on
it dials sometimes...
thank you for trying to help...
True, but they were also useless blocks of concrete which could barely make a call, let alone play video and music, organise your life, surf the web, etc.
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Largely true, but I had a very nice Treo beforehand that would do all that, with a very stable and usable interface, that would last a good 4-5 days.
But I digress. Sorry for hijacking this thread :roll:
Sir.B said:
Yorch said:
Sir.B said:
CON:
face buttons get activated easily in a bag or pocket (so i end up calling people)
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1. Go to Settings, Buttons and there is a tab that says "Lock"
2. Choose "Lock all buttons except power button".
3. Place phone in your pocket without worries.
4. When you need to use the phone, press the power button and call.
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Click to collapse
:roll: i got that setting...but when i'm on the bus and listen to music the phone is on it dials sometimes...
but thank you for trying to help...
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When you have windows media player on if you close it the music still plays and you can lock the device then
I hate mine. Bought 2x at Xmas one for me one for the Wife. Wife refused to use it so cancelled contract. I have made 10 calls on it since and it hasn't been used for 6 months.
Really long winded to send a text or multimedia message. Too small to be a practical PC .
I intend to get one of the new 5" tft mini notebook/tablets.
PROS
Phone is good
Can connect to the internet through wi-fi
keyboard good
Touch screen
sat nav use
MP3 player with up to 2gb storage
Can play videos
MP3 ringtones
CONS
too flippin heavy and thick
Text sending takes too many keystrokes
screen too small
alarm problems
headpohnes socket 2.5mm ? wrong size
Pros:
keyboard
Connectivity
Expandable Storage
Compatibility with MS Office ( word, outlook, excel, PPoint)
Music
video
flaunt value
Geek factor
Cons:
os (but this is not a Wizard fault)
Battery life (heavy use -wifi, games etc only last- 2 hours)
Camera -poor at best
limited memory
Slow processor (You Can over clock it but only to an extent and it affects the battery life )
Poor Stylus
But I like the phone and have reached the stage where I no longer Carry my laptop with me
a video out port and 'built-in FM would have been great
cheers!
The texting seems quicker for me with the keyboard than the old phone methods.
A fm radio would of been great, a big miss for me that is.
Why do people think the phone processor is too slow? Everything I have tried to run on my mda including games such as tomb raider have ran great.
I have the 8125 using T-Mobile
Pros:
Excellent phone with loud ring;
Extremely reliable and acceptably fast (with Mr. Clean AKU 2.3 ROM);
Works well with BT Stereo Headsets and other hands free devices;
With a simple hack, it can be controlled from a bluetooth headset;
Extremely customizable due to the xda-developers site and all the hacks and .cab files available.
Most flexible pda/phone available.
Standard Mini USB Charging
Cons:
No 3G UMTS/HSPDA (I'm waiting for TyTN bugs to get worked out);
Processor could be faster but with proper ROM and customizations, it works acceptably fast;
Camera takes marginal photos bue comes in handy in a pinch;
Battery life is one to two days depending on usage. This is better than some devices with WiFi.
I have the 8125 using T-Mobile
Pros:
Excellent phone with loud ring;
Extremely reliable and acceptably fast (with Mr. Clean AKU 2.3 ROM);
Works well with BT Stereo Headsets and other hands free devices;
With a simple hack, it can be controlled from a bluetooth headset;
Extremely customizable due to the xda-developers site and all the hacks and .cab files available.
Most flexible pda/phone available.
Standard Mini USB Charging
Cons:
No 3G UMTS/HSPDA (I'm waiting for TyTN bugs to get worked out);
Processor could be faster but with proper ROM and customizations, it works acceptably fast;
Camera takes marginal photos bue comes in handy in a pinch;
Battery life is one to two days depending on usage. This is better than some devices with WiFi.
I have the 8125 using T-Mobile
Pros:
Excellent phone with loud ring;
Extremely reliable and acceptably fast (with Mr. Clean AKU 2.3 ROM);
Works well with BT Stereo Headsets and other hands free devices;
With a simple hack, it can be controlled from a bluetooth headset;
Extremely customizable due to the xda-developers site and all the hacks and .cab files available.
Most flexible pda/phone available.
Standard Mini USB Charging
Cons:
No 3G UMTS/HSPDA (I'm waiting for TyTN bugs to get worked out);
Processor could be faster but with proper ROM and customizations, it works acceptably fast;
Camera takes marginal photos bue comes in handy in a pinch;
Battery life is one to two days depending on usage. This is better than some devices with WiFi.
I'm using tmobile with the data plan, I've used both the Treo and Wizard and like the wizard for it's extensive connectablity and the treo for its elegant OS and deeper application pool. Since I have the MDA, I'll use it until something better comes along
Pros
Excellent screen
good connectivity via gprs/bt/wifi
fairly easy to tweak, unlock, overclock
good selection of win mobile applications
Ability to use phone as WAN modem to laptop
Outlook sync
Bluetooth headset support
Cons
Stylus falls out of phone, this is a design flaw it is fixable but a pita
Camera is awful, why bother
Windows mobile - do we really need to multitask on a phone?
Windows media - what a half ass attempt, I wish Ptunes supported this OS
Windows email client, I guess I'm just used to some of the excellent palm apps, this is really lame
not really designed for one handed operation, you need to use a bluetooth headset
The phone connectivity could be better, I have a small Siemens phone that's much better than this & can pull in a distant signal where the MDA is still searching
Most of my gripes are not so much with the phone, it's an elegant design but rather with the MS OS, it's not like MS is a startup, I just expected more, its ok but could be so much better.
chrisredmayne said:
Why do people think the phone processor is too slow? Everything I have tried to run on my mda including games such as tomb raider have ran great.
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Try playing Resco Guardians final stages with your phone not in flight mode (pun incidental). @195 Mhz you'll know what I mean.
Sir.B said:
Yorch said:
Sir.B said:
CON:
face buttons get activated easily in a bag or pocket (so i end up calling people)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1. Go to Settings, Buttons and there is a tab that says "Lock"
2. Choose "Lock all buttons except power button".
3. Place phone in your pocket without worries.
4. When you need to use the phone, press the power button and call.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
:roll: i got that setting...but when i'm on the bus and listen to music the phone is on it dials sometimes...
but thank you for trying to help...
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I find on WMP I am able to switch off the display while I am listening to music through my HT820 headsets!!!
I wonder if ppl are still using their F1/S200?
I'm currently stuck on my Samsung Omnia SGH-i900 because it's the only device that does 2 things that i need.
1) Torchbutton: to use the LED-flash as a LED-lamp. Currently mapped to the taskswitch-button.
2) Vito audio Notes touch can records phone-calls (automagically) even when the call is through a bluetooth headset.
I wonder can the F1 do the same?
Is there a program to use the LED-flash as a lamp
and does vito audio notes touch work to record calls? Perhaps someone can try this out for me (there's a demo to download on Vito's website or PM me)
I also wonder how's the camera? And are the latest ROM's any improvement on call quality (I hear it's not very good on the acer)?
Just a few questions. I ask this because the HTC Desire (which i wanted first) has no incall-recording whatsoever). Froyo-ROM's have a function to use the LED as a lamp though. And I tried an Omnia II (GT-i8000) and Vito Audio notes touch doesn't record calls (or wm notes for that matter). The only other alternative is to go for a Nokia Symbian device X6 or 5800 but that's a step backwards imho.
thanks in advance for the answers
Hi,
I try Torch button (v2.2) recently but it doesn't work on F1 with the actual driver on Arto's ROM. I get an Error Message : "Couldn't detect a supported device, exiting...". I'm interested if someone success to make it work, (also by use the flashlight to signal messages when phone is placed on the side of the screen, I know there is an HTC app to do this, but doesn't work on my phone).
I havn't test any call recorder.
The camera is not so good (disapointing for a 5M pixels), but for a phone it stay 'correct'.
Hope this helps
hey, the user stephano released a little program to use your led as flashlight.
I cant say much to vito audio recorder app,never used it, and dont have time to test it atm.
Regarding the camera, you re going two or ten steps back concerning quality if you compare acer neotouch vs samsung omnia. Acers camera quality is poo comparing it to the omnia. i owned a omnia before the neotouch and believe me i was very disappointed about the lack of features and very bad picture quality unless the light conditions are perfect.
On the other hand, the neotouch is indredibly fast, it has a hotswitch microsd slot, an audio jack. and a wvga resolution That were the things i ve missed on the i900
If you can stand the bad camera quality, the neotouch might be worth a try
Concerning the call quality, it's actually pretty good. It doesnt have a second mic to supress the background noise but i encounter the call quality as quite decent
the camera sux. no matter what rom u are using.
video camera sux too...
riotman said:
hey, the user stephano released a little program to use your led as flashlight.
I cant say much to vito audio recorder app,never used it, and dont have time to test it atm.
Regarding the camera, you re going two or ten steps back concerning quality if you compare acer neotouch vs samsung omnia. Acers camera quality is poo comparing it to the omnia. i owned a omnia before the neotouch and believe me i was very disappointed about the lack of features and very bad picture quality unless the light conditions are perfect.
On the other hand, the neotouch is indredibly fast, it has a hotswitch microsd slot, an audio jack. and a wvga resolution That were the things i ve missed on the i900
If you can stand the bad camera quality, the neotouch might be worth a try
Concerning the call quality, it's actually pretty good. It doesnt have a second mic to supress the background noise but i encounter the call quality as quite decent
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Also coming from I900 OMNIA...Totally agree!
Yes, forgetting the neotouch even has a camera is probably the best way to approach things, it has impressive speed and a great resistive screen, good call quality, great wifi reception, and an incredibly worthless camera
Acer F1 incall-recording
OK. According to http://pocketnow.com/review/acer-neotouch-s200-f1
The neotouch has native incall-recoring. Can anyone confirm this? And has anyone tried Vito's audionotes touch or Resco's audio recoring with incall-recording enabled? There's a demo on either website to try before you buy. I already bought it and would like to (keep) using it.
I asked if I could try it in a shop nearby but the gent wouldn't let me do it :-(
I already bought and returned a Samsung Omnia II because it didn't work (neither did iGo navigation but that's a different matter).
I have found Stefano's torchlight program so I presume this is solved. He kindly sent it to me and referenced me to his (italia) website. (Thanks Stefano).
So my options are this:
1) look for a second hand i900 (which I know everything I have works on)
2) Get a cheap Nokia C6 (i have an 2-way incall-recorder program for it and a program that can use the flash as led. I tried them on an X6 and 5230 so I think they'l work on this one too.
3) get this Acer F1 (which cost about the same as the Nokia C6). I have the software that I need, I'm unsure if they'll work. It seems to have a worse camera than the above models.
4) Get a second hand HTC HD2. These cost second hand about the same as a new Acer F1. There's a patch that allow 2-way incallrecording and I've a torchlight program.
5) Get a SE featurephone with LED lamp. They can use it as a torch and SE-phones have 2-way callrecording build in (just as Nokia featurephones).
6) forget all this and get an HTC Desire android phone (froyo has a torchlight app build in). There's no call-recording possible on the desire for now.
What shold I do?
The reason I can't keep using my Omnia 1 is because the metal frame (topside around the digitiser) is cracking open. I fear that soon the screen will break in two. Then it'll be over. But since I'm reluctant to spend yet another +400 euro's on a phone and then discovering things don't work as intended (as with the Omnia2). I ask this.
Anyway thanks in advance if anyone test these apps out. You can also PM me and I can sent you the program to test it for me?
epdm2be said:
And has anyone tried Vito's audionotes touch or Resco's audio recoring with incall-recording enabled? There's a demo on either website to try before you buy. I already bought it and would like to (keep) using it.
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Yes, i have Vito´s Audiotones and the incall-recording is very functioning, in both ways and also over the loudspeakers. You can also map one of the three Acer Hardkeys for starting the incall-recording with Vito´s Audiotones.
Took the plunge
OK fella's
After my bluetooth headset wouldn't function on my omnia anymore I sped up my decisions. I finally took the plunge and went for the Acer F1. It's about the same price as a Nokia C6 and (from the intel gathered here 2way call-recording works on the F1).
My first impressions so far.
It looks nice. I haven't removed the stickers (yet) as I might return it if it doesn't work as wanted. The screen is very nice (for an TFT) and responds very well. Much better than the Omnia 1 (which is famous for its awfull screen). The device is notably snappy even with a screen resolution 4x times as high as on the Omnia. Other good things. It uses mini-usb to charge (though not every mini-usb cable can be used as I have discovered) and a separate audio-jack (unlike the omnia). So you can both charge and use the headphones, great. The FM radio seems to work without headphones plugged it?! The first time that I have seen this. The Acer dialer has NATIVE call recording. This is also the first I've seen on WM especially in such a userfriendly and logical way... right on the call-screen
Then there's the bad things.
The sound although good in quality, is very quiet compared to my Omnia. I admit that I tweaked that Omnia with some inbuild program. If ppl want to fiddle with that little program, I've included it as attachment. I strongly doubt it'll be of any use but it does seem to start-up. The camera is notoriously bad as everyone in here as already mentioned (compared to the omnia). Speakerphone is too low to be of any use. This unfortunately defies the use of that one program that I require (audio notes) to record calls since you can't properly hear them afterwards. Although the headphone-jack is on the right place (on mid-top) it's also too quiet to be of any use :-(.
Other things that I discovered when installing and using some software. I've installed SPB Mobile Shell (tried both 3.5.4 and 3.5.5) but whenever exit the camera-software, SPB MS returns in "change layout" mode (with the last widget, used before opening the cam-software, ready for removal or changing). I tried with both the cam-software in rom (3.003c) and Xakep TURBO camera to no avail. Very annoying. At one point I couldn't remove "Getting started" from today screen (WM Standard). But eventually I did manage to remove it (though I still have no idea what I prior did to make it happen. Again I tought this was due to SPB Mobile shell but since I could eventually remove it (while MS was running) it must have been something else. As of now, (after fooling around with Coreplayer, SPB Mobile shell, Vito's audio notes touch, a few games and utilities) whenver I use WM Standard today screen and try to open a picture (which gets neatly displayed on the pictures bar) it gives an error (file-associations seem to be ****ed up along the way). Again a minor hassle (like the "getting started" that wouldn't go away) but a hassle nonetheless :-(
Apart from the lousy camera (which i expected) and the low audio volume (which I didn't expect) this devices fares quite well. It definitly needs some kind of invisible shield (or other protection) for exterior protection as the shiny cover easily gets dirty. I haven't yet decided whether I'll keep it. If the audio was better then I could have used it as a small PMP but because of the low volume (even with headphones)... The speed and great screen considering its price are its main strenghts.
Included is the Omnia's Soundtester-program that Omnians use to tweak their handsets audio volume (by quite a bit I might say). I compared my omnia (before sending in for repair) to the Acer and the Omnia is not only much louder. The inbuild speaker produced better quality as well while playing this loud. I boosted volume with Coreplayer on mediafiles but it never matches the Omnia without distoring the sound. headphone output on the omnia is allmost on par as on my ancient iPod 60GB (this thing kills your ears definitly!) while the acer is no-more than whispering compared to both. Oddly enough call-quality wasn't so bad at all. Call-volume was reasonable (even in populated environments).
Thanks for the ppl who helped me out with regards to incall recording (the prime reason for sticking with WM) and to Steff (with info on his Torch program).
regards,
EPDM2BE
epdm2be said:
OK fella's
After my bluetooth headset wouldn't function on my omnia anymore I sped up my decisions. I finally took the plunge and went for the Acer F1. It's about the same price as a Nokia C6 and (from the intel gathered here 2way call-recording works on the F1).
My first impressions so far.
It looks nice. I haven't removed the stickers (yet) as I might return it if it doesn't work as wanted. The screen is very nice (for an TFT) and responds very well. Much better than the Omnia 1 (which is famous for its awfull screen). The device is notably snappy even with a screen resolution 4x times as high as on the Omnia. Other good things. It uses mini-usb to charge (though not every mini-usb cable can be used as I have discovered) and a separate audio-jack (unlike the omnia). So you can both charge and use the headphones, great. The FM radio seems to work without headphones plugged it?! The first time that I have seen this. The Acer dialer has NATIVE call recording. This is also the first I've seen on WM especially in such a userfriendly and logical way... right on the call-screen
Then there's the bad things.
The sound although good in quality, is very quiet compared to my Omnia. I admit that I tweaked that Omnia with some inbuild program. If ppl want to fiddle with that little program, I've included it as attachment. I strongly doubt it'll be of any use but it does seem to start-up. The camera is notoriously bad as everyone in here as already mentioned (compared to the omnia). Speakerphone is too low to be of any use. This unfortunately defies the use of that one program that I require (audio notes) to record calls since you can't properly hear them afterwards. Although the headphone-jack is on the right place (on mid-top) it's also too quiet to be of any use :-(.
Other things that I discovered when installing and using some software. I've installed SPB Mobile Shell (tried both 3.5.4 and 3.5.5) but whenever exit the camera-software, SPB MS returns in "change layout" mode (with the last widget, used before opening the cam-software, ready for removal or changing). I tried with both the cam-software in rom (3.003c) and Xakep TURBO camera to no avail. Very annoying. At one point I couldn't remove "Getting started" from today screen (WM Standard). But eventually I did manage to remove it (though I still have no idea what I prior did to make it happen. Again I tought this was due to SPB Mobile shell but since I could eventually remove it (while MS was running) it must have been something else. As of now, (after fooling around with Coreplayer, SPB Mobile shell, Vito's audio notes touch, a few games and utilities) whenver I use WM Standard today screen and try to open a picture (which gets neatly displayed on the pictures bar) it gives an error (file-associations seem to be ****ed up along the way). Again a minor hassle (like the "getting started" that wouldn't go away) but a hassle nonetheless :-(
Apart from the lousy camera (which i expected) and the low audio volume (which I didn't expect) this devices fares quite well. It definitly needs some kind of invisible shield (or other protection) for exterior protection as the shiny cover easily gets dirty. I haven't yet decided whether I'll keep it. If the audio was better then I could have used it as a small PMP but because of the low volume (even with headphones)... The speed and great screen considering its price are its main strenghts.
Included is the Omnia's Soundtester-program that Omnians use to tweak their handsets audio volume (by quite a bit I might say). I compared my omnia (before sending in for repair) to the Acer and the Omnia is not only much louder. The inbuild speaker produced better quality as well while playing this loud. I boosted volume with Coreplayer on mediafiles but it never matches the Omnia without distoring the sound. headphone output on the omnia is allmost on par as on my ancient iPod 60GB (this thing kills your ears definitly!) while the acer is no-more than whispering compared to both. Oddly enough call-quality wasn't so bad at all. Call-volume was reasonable (even in populated environments).
Thanks for the ppl who helped me out with regards to incall recording (the prime reason for sticking with WM) and to Steff (with info on his Torch program).
regards,
EPDM2BE
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Install one of my ROM's - Manila or Clean, they have enhanced Audio with SRS WOW HD drivers. Your Sound will be much better, louder and over the headphones you will get better sound quality.
Hi.
I'm on the fence on switching from an iPhone 3G to an xperia play. I'm kind of hesitant about the music control in xperia play, since I've never used Android before but the gamepad is slowly drawing me in since the iPhone emulation scene (the ones that I like) is mostly dead due to zodttd quiting ios and pandora scene.
Here are my questions:
1. Does this phone have a shortcut like the iphone where you can quickly control the music by pressing the home button twice and clicking on a media playback icon?
2. Does number 1 work when the phone is on sleep like the iphone?
3. Can 2 be done on just inside the pocket of you pants with minimal eye contact with the phone?
4. Does the position of the 3.5 jack feel weird/flaky when the phone is vertically set in your pocket with earphones attached?
5. Is it worth buying the phone now? I'm thinking this phone will end up being worth $350 at some point in a few months here? It's currently $534 here. I'm thinking of either waiting for the iPhone5 or buying this.
6. Is true this phone is picky on earphones? I tend to break my earphones (only one ear works) a lot so I tend to buy cheap ones. I think I've broken 3 official iphone headsets, 2 sony earphones and 2 sennheiser earphones, so cheap is in for me as of now.
7. I'd also like to ask if there is an application like flicktunes where you can control the player by flicking up, right, left, down with one or two fingers?
Thanks in advance.
Let me have a crack at this
1. You have shortcuts for almost anything on any android device.
Configure it the way you please for any application, with settings & options almost unlimited.
2.You need to specify if you mean phone is in sleep mode with the screen guard enabled or not.
If you are talking wen screen guard in enabled, certain apps have an option to not let the phone lock.
3. i'll skip this cos am not sure why you want to do this.. it's not very difficult to pull the phone out and stop music (or whatever) from the notification bar.
4. Feels quite fine.
5. IS it worth buying this phone? am not sure about that.. depends on your preference. but my advice would be an android device is a definitely more user friendly and customizable.. and free.. open source remember
6. any kind of ear phone will work... keep ur ears safe
7. almost any app there is for the iphone or windows fone or anything that has some usability, there is an android app.
thanks for asking!
I was a former 3GS owner and I can't say enough good things about the Xperia Play. I don't miss my iPhone at all.
The only gripe I have is that the level of brightness is never going to be as high as it is on the iPhone. Other than that you can customize Android to do a lot of things like the iPhone. Starting music is as easy as putting a music control widget on your homescreen. If you root you can also use a button remapper app to map media controls to any hardware key on the device, so in your pocket... easy to play/stop/ff/rewind with blind button pushing. You can even use an app called Tasker to do even further automation of almost any kind.
The headphones jack feels solid, never flakes on me, doesn't feel weird on the side. I use Sony Bluetooth headphones 90% of the time and it never has problems connecting either (cords annoy me on any device).
If you like emulation and games, get this device. It's easily the best phone to handle it. Touchscreen gaming will never be able to match the tactile response and level of control you get from real built-in controller keys, period.
fvig2001 said:
Hi.
I'm on the fence on switching from an iPhone 3G to an xperia play. I'm kind of hesitant about the music control in xperia play, since I've never used Android before but the gamepad is slowly drawing me in since the iPhone emulation scene (the ones that I like) is mostly dead due to zodttd quiting ios and pandora scene.
Here are my questions:
1. Does this phone have a shortcut like the iphone where you can quickly control the music by pressing the home button twice and clicking on a media playback icon?
2. Does number 1 work when the phone is on sleep like the iphone?
3. Can 2 be done on just inside the pocket of you pants with minimal eye contact with the phone?
4. Does the position of the 3.5 jack feel weird/flaky when the phone is vertically set in your pocket with earphones attached?
5. Is it worth buying the phone now? I'm thinking this phone will end up being worth $350 at some point in a few months here? It's currently $534 here. I'm thinking of either waiting for the iPhone5 or buying this.
6. Is true this phone is picky on earphones? I tend to break my earphones (only one ear works) a lot so I tend to buy cheap ones. I think I've broken 3 official iphone headsets, 2 sony earphones and 2 sennheiser earphones, so cheap is in for me as of now.
7. I'd also like to ask if there is an application like flicktunes where you can control the player by flicking up, right, left, down with one or two fingers?
Thanks in advance.
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1. There is a music widget, which you can place on any one of your homescreens, which has all the controls.
2. I'm not sure how you can use on screen controls while the screen is off...considering this isn't possible on iphone either I'll assume you mean lock screen controls, in which case yes, you can.
3. If you have an in-line remote you can. I've also heard of assigning long press volume up and down for next and previous track, for pocket navigation.
4. If you have a 90 degree jack on your earphones, then it's fine.
5. That's all a matter of opinion. In my opinion, I'd much rather go for the play rather than the iphone, ESPECIALLY if your doing console emulation. On screen controllers have NOTHING on physical buttons, period.
6. No, no issues here.
7. Yes, because you can download different music players in the market, you can choose the one that best suits your needs. I have seen ones with gesture controls.
All in all, in the switch to Android you can literally feel the grip on your balls loosen once you figure out all the options you have.
If you are going to use headphones for listening to music, you can install poweramp and use heatphone button to control your music. A single press of the headphone button can be used to start or pause the music. Similarly double press can be used to skip to next track and triple press to skip to previous track.
2. I'm not sure how you can use on screen controls while the screen is off...considering this isn't possible on iphone either I'll assume you mean lock screen controls, in which case yes, you can.
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Yes it is. If your iphone is in sleep mode you can double click the home button and it brings up the music player. You don't need to unlock the home screen.
And no I could not do this from the play. It would be nice.
I also came from the 3GS. It is different for sure but worth the adjustment.
ncaissie said:
Yes it is. If your iphone is in sleep mode you can double click the home button and it brings up the music player. You don't need to unlock the home screen.
And no I could not do this from the play. It would be nice.
I also came from the 3GS. It is different for sure but worth the adjustment.
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So what's wrong with lock screen music controls? I know it doesn't behave exactly like the iphone but the end result is the same, music controls without unlocking.
speedyink said:
So what's wrong with lock screen music controls? I know it doesn't behave exactly like the iphone but the end result is the same, music controls without unlocking.
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Umm. That was the question. He asked if there was a lock screen controls.
I said I have not seen any controls from the lock screen. Gees, why don't you relax? I said he will get use to the difference.
Edit: And yes you can do it on the iphone and you said you can't
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Umm. That was the question. He asked if there was a lock screen controls.
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No, he didn't
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I said I have not seen any controls from the lock screen.
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Try a different music player
ncaissie said:
Gees, why don't you relax? I said he will get use to the difference.
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Was I yelling?
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Edit: And yes you can do it on the iphone and you said you can't
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...What? When did I say that?
Why do I get the feeling you just like arguing...
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2. I'm not sure how you can use on screen controls while the screen is off...considering this isn't possible on iphone either I'll assume you mean lock screen controls, in which case yes, you can.
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This is where. I just said it is if you double click the home button. It brings up the music player without unlocking the phone.
I haven't found a way to do this on the Play is all I said. I didn't say it's not possible.
Edit: and I'm not trying to argue. I was just pointing out that you can do it on the iPhone, iPod touch and iPad.
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This is where. I just said it is if you double click the home button. It brings up the music player without unlocking the phone.
I haven't found a way to do this on the Play is all I said. I didn't say it's not possible.
Edit: and I'm not trying to argue. I was just pointing out that you can do it on the iPhone, iPod touch and iPad.
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2. I'm not sure how you can use on screen controls while the screen is off...considering this isn't possible on iphone either I'll assume you mean lock screen controls
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You completely missed the first part of the sentence, I was obviously referring to something else. I didn't know about the double click home while sleeping while playing music feature.
And i was simply telling you about it. I didn't mean to offend you.
Thanks for all the replies most of them were really helpful. I'm still on the fence though since I'm still thinking of the number of apps in the app store vs android market (I have an ipad, so this point maybe moot except for camera apps).
I am also worried about the possibility of a follow-up to this phone and the dpad functionality on fighting games (see other thread). I'll probably buy the XP (if ever) after 2 weeks since the Zagg here will only have it by then (Considering buying the dock and too lazy too remove case every time).
Hopefully I'll adapt to the quickly to the controls in the widgets and the syncing using iTunes through 3rd party software.
ncaissie said:
Yes it is. If your iphone is in sleep mode you can double click the home button and it brings up the music player. You don't need to unlock the home screen.
And no I could not do this from the play. It would be nice.
I also came from the 3GS. It is different for sure but worth the adjustment.
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DoubleTwist has this option, puts a skip/pause and play controls on its own lock screen. there is also a tap to unlock button which then goes to the handsets lock screen.
Coming from iPhone its also great as the desktop app uses iTunes and has wireless syncing as well.
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Thanks for all the replies most of them were really helpful. I'm still on the fence though since I'm still thinking of the number of apps in the app store vs android market (I have an ipad, so this point maybe moot except for camera apps).
I am also worried about the possibility of a follow-up to this phone and the dpad functionality on fighting games (see other thread). I'll probably buy the XP (if ever) after 2 weeks since the Zagg here will only have it by then (Considering buying the dock and too lazy too remove case every time).
Hopefully I'll adapt to the quickly to the controls in the widgets and the syncing using iTunes through 3rd party software.
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Have the iPad and the play, you won't miss anything if you have both
Hello guys,what do you think about this nice watch?
It have dual function...bluetoth shincronize with smartphones and a simcard phone function!
Here is all the details,and is like an upgrade of simple U8
http://emergencyplus-tw.com/wordpress/?p=1033
I buyt from ebay with 62usd,and I wait to come now!
Maybe will have more firmwares and details in future!
alesul said:
Hello guys,what do you think about this nice watch?
It have dual function...bluetoth shincronize with smartphones and a simcard phone function!
Here is all the details,and is like an upgrade of simple U8
http://emergencyplus-tw.com/wordpress/?p=1033
I buyt from ebay with 62usd,and I wait to come now!
Maybe will have more firmwares and details in future!
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Keep us updated alesul
Also a walk through video is available on youtube (in Chinese):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ldpTp1kZyQ
From what information I gather through the video, the watch does not run Android, instead run a custom OS (java based most likely). The battery size is 350mah, and the watch take an optional micro-sim.
The video also claim the watch is water resistant, but not water proof. Additional the sync software work mostly only with Android, iOS have very limited sync functionality.
Hi
Hey can u plz give the review.. I am thinking of buying a smartwatch within $70-80.. so considering U8 or U8 Pro.. there is another one though which I liked but can't find any review at all.. So how is this U8 Pro? & another thing.. do u know if in the given range there is any watch with a 3.5mm port or not?
@NeelDroid - there's the SmartQ Z watch which but its $99, however using Bitcoin you can get it for $79. Features:
3.5mm port
3 different custom ROMs
Firmaware updates
Play Store but only certain apps work
Water resistant
Refer to the thread pls.
On a different note there's the Chinese Pebble copy for around $58. Please refer to its thread.
@simple1i
This 79$ is with shipping or without, if w/o what will be cost to poland (if its possible)?
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@simple1i
This 79$ is with shipping or without, if w/o what will be cost to poland (if its possible)?
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$79 with shipping registered worldwide :highfive: - it does not have a speaker, just a 3.5mm port.
Contact user adro (no paypal, bitcoin only) http://smartqwatch.com/forum/discussion/5336/selling-smartq-z-watch-z-watch-lite-69usd
Note: there are two models, the lite model for $69 no with no Wifi and less RAM ...i think and the other one with Wifi. Come with a few colours.
Also a newer model (Z2 or P1 or H1, not sure what its called) is supposed to be coming out in June, unconfirmed cost is around $169, no 3,5mm port, but with speakers.
Heh. Who need speaker in watch? Vibrations are usefull, but speaker?
So.now i need the money for bitcoins, thanks!
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Heh. Who need speaker in watch? Vibrations are usefull, but speaker?
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MIC/Speaker is a very useful feature. Voice to text/text to voice, voice search, voice commands and the like. This can all be done without digging that 5.4" massive phone out of your pocket every time or in cases where your hands are full or the phone is out of reach. Speaker without a MIC is silly though.
i just sold my u8 to get the u8 pro... found like 3 new videos of it on youtube and it seems good for the money.. hopefully i'll get it soon..
so what are the differences between U8 and U8 pro?
hardware looks different, or are there real changes?
software is newer but not that much different?
same BTNotifier app?
JarlSX said:
so what are the differences between U8 and U8 pro?
hardware looks different, or are there real changes?
software is newer but not that much different?
same BTNotifier app?
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Well there is a micro sim card slot which allows it to be a stand alone phone if needed.
This is all for an android phone ad that is what I am using with btnotify as downloaded from the details on the instruction sheet that came with the phone.
The phone arrived set to Chinese so to set it to English find the settings icon (looks like a gear wheel)
Tap the second option down.
Tap the second option down again.
Select the first option which is English.
I have one of these and it works pretty well even just as a phone.
Unfortunately the instruction sheet is a bit limited and you need to work a few things out.
Using btnotification on an android phone it will push full notification with some of the contents not just the fact you have a message to the watch.
You can start your smart phone camera and see the picture it is seeing then make it capture it on the smart phone using the smart watch as a remote control.
You can use the music app on the smart watch to operate your music played app on the smart phone to play music held on your phone. On mine I can skip tracks but NOT alter the volume coming through the smart phone speakers or smart phone earphones.
Of you allow the music to play through the smart watch speaker or earphone then the volume control on the smart watch works locally.
This may depend on the app you have on the phone and what functionality the phone has.
There are 4 clock faces and the digital one is very good.
The screen is bright and has good viewing angles. It comes on with a button press and goes off on a second button press or after about 5 seconds of inactivity. This is good for the battery life and not as much as much of a pain as it might at first appear.. No more so than pressing a button for a back light at night. There is only one button so you can't get it wrong.
Slightly annoyingly the standard micro USB plugs are longer at about 8mm because the USB slot is sunk to protect it from damage and water I suppose. The earphones are also micro USB in fact the same slot a there is only one. A 3.5 mm jack would have been better for me ad I don't like the earphones supplied very much. A bit of rooting around on the net can yield some 8mm cables but as yet I have not found a 8mm micro USB to 3.5 mm jack plug adaptor.
If anyone can work out how the speed dial works I would love to know how.
You can get the local sim to call numbers by entering their position on the sim followed by #. Not really the same thing but easier than scrolling through the local address book. Note their position on the sim is as they were added to the sim not alphabetical.
I might add to this as I find out a bit more.
I do have the observation that while names come up for incoming calls to the smart watch if they come from the smart phone it displays the phone number. Maybe this is just my fault.
Both the lost phone and loss of blue tooth connection (phone out of range) work.
I will be interested to see any other comments or instructions from anyone else.
Well only one day in and I find an undocumented feature. If you move your arm forward like you want to know the time the screen comes on. So one handed operation is no problem. Obviously someone used an accelerometer feed to switch on the display or my watch has a loose connection but I think it is very clever, just wish I had a manual that documented all the features.
Note you may have to try it a few times to get it to work but it will.
Upro
my2234 said:
Well there is a micro sim card slot which allows it to be a stand alone phone if needed.
This is all for an android phone ad that is what I am using with btnotify as downloaded from the details on the instruction sheet that came with the phone.
The phone arrived set to Chinese so to set it to English find the settings icon (looks like a gear wheel)
Tap the second option down.
Tap the second option down again.
Select the first option which is English.
I have one of these and it works pretty well even just as a phone.
Unfortunately the instruction sheet is a bit limited and you need to work a few things out.
Using btnotification on an android phone it will push full notification with some of the contents not just the fact you have a message to the watch.
You can start your smart phone camera and see the picture it is seeing then make it capture it on the smart phone using the smart watch as a remote control.
You can use the music app on the smart watch to operate your music played app on the smart phone to play music held on your phone. On mine I can skip tracks but NOT alter the volume coming through the smart phone speakers or smart phone earphones.
Of you allow the music to play through the smart watch speaker or earphone then the volume control on the smart watch works locally.
This may depend on the app you have on the phone and what functionality the phone has.
There are 4 clock faces and the digital one is very good.
The screen is bright and has good viewing angles. It comes on with a button press and goes off on a second button press or after about 5 seconds of inactivity. This is good for the battery life and not as much as much of a pain as it might at first appear.. No more so than pressing a button for a back light at night. There is only one button so you can't get it wrong.
Slightly annoyingly the standard micro USB plugs are longer at about 8mm because the USB slot is sunk to protect it from damage and water I suppose. The earphones are also micro USB in fact the same slot a there is only one. A 3.5 mm jack would have been better for me ad I don't like the earphones supplied very much. A bit of rooting around on the net can yield some 8mm cables but as yet I have not found a 8mm micro USB to 3.5 mm jack plug adaptor.
If anyone can work out how the speed dial works I would love to know how.
You can get the local sim to call numbers by entering their position on the sim followed by #. Not really the same thing but easier than scrolling through the local address book. Note their position on the sim is as they were added to the sim not alphabetical.
I might add to this as I find out a bit more.
I do have the observation that while names come up for incoming calls to the smart watch if they come from the smart phone it displays the phone number. Maybe this is just my fault.
Both the lost phone and loss of blue tooth connection (phone out of range) work.
I will be interested to see any other comments or instructions from anyone else.
Well only one day in and I find an undocumented feature. If you move your arm forward like you want to know the time the screen comes on. So one handed operation is no problem. Obviously someone used an accelerometer feed to switch on the display or my watch has a loose connection but I think it is very clever, just wish I had a manual that documented all the features.
Note you may have to try it a few times to get it to work but it will.
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Thanks on advise on clock "moving hand forward" I discovered you just shake your hand and it comes on.(This was bugging me the phone goes off now its ok)
Just rec my UPro. Works very well so far. Hope it last for some time.
Able to rec and make calls
Able to take pics.
Able to rec sms. Sending tedious though.
Able to insert another sim card.
Can see callers on in coming phone and names and messages in sms.
Q- Is there any Whatsapp. i cant find it.
tks
RMnaf said:
Thanks on advise on clock "moving hand forward" I discovered you just shake your hand and it comes on.(This was bugging me the phone goes off now its ok)
Just rec my UPro. Works very well so far. Hope it last for some time.
Able to rec and make calls
Able to take pics.
Able to rec sms. Sending tedious though.
Able to insert another sim card.
Can see callers on in coming phone and names and messages in sms.
Q- Is there any Whatsapp. i cant find it.
tks
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So moving your arm up turns on the screen? Is this a standard function or does like the pedometer have to be on?
is the watch strap replaceable? i dont really like buckle straps and would prefer a deployment clasp. im gonna be ordering this tomorrow so i would just like to know so that i could get the strap at the same time. I intend to make a video on this watch since there arent many. im actually excited for this watch, my hopes arent high but from what i can tell it's a pretty decent smart watch for what it costs.
my2234 said:
Well there is a micro sim card slot which allows it to be a stand alone phone if needed.
Slightly annoyingly the standard micro USB plugs are longer at about 8mm because the USB slot is sunk to protect it from damage and water I suppose. The earphones are also micro USB in fact the same slot a there is only one. A 3.5 mm jack would have been better for me ad I don't like the earphones supplied very much. A bit of rooting around on the net can yield some 8mm cables but as yet I have not found a 8mm micro USB to 3.5 mm jack plug adaptor.
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aliexpress.com/item/New-Micro-USB-to-3-5mm-RCA-Jack-Headphone-Earphone-Audio-Adapter-Socket-Convertor-Cable-Free/1457486610.html
i guess if the usb connector is not long enough on this one could remove the plastic case and stick some hot glue on it to make it longer.
so i got the impression though that you cannot store music on u8 pro itself, right?
also i`m kind of assuming that you would not be able to use u8 pro with bluetooth headset
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i guess if the usb connector is not long enough on this one could remove the plastic case and stick some hot glue on it to make it longer.
so i got the impression though that you cannot store music on u8 pro itself, right?
also i`m kind of assuming that you would not be able to use u8 pro with bluetooth headset
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headset of headphones? you should be able to use a headset but it might get a bit complicated. like if you answered on the phone and wanted to switch to the headset, it might switch to the watch instead of the headset but thats the only problem that might come up. because this watch is its own phone, it allows you answer the phone with the audio coming out of the phone and if you answer on the watch the sound will come out of the watch, the headset shouldnt get in the way... but thats based off my understanding of how the watch and bluetooth works, ill update when i get the watch haha
update: i said up there that answering on the phone would make the audio come out of the phone while answering on the watch will make the audio come out of the watch. well earlier today i asked on youtube whether or not this is true and the guy said that it is false. audio will always come out of the watch. BUT in the elegance u8 thread, someone said that the the audio will only come out of the watch if you answer on the watch, so im not sure. can anyone else confirm whether this is true or false?
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bustanut666 said:
So moving your arm up turns on the screen? Is this a standard function or does like the pedometer have to be on?
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Shake yr arms better, it will slowly come on . No need pedometer.
mahnameisjaime1 said:
is the watch strap replaceable? i dont really like buckle straps and would prefer a deployment clasp. im gonna be ordering this tomorrow so i would just like to know so that i could get the strap at the same time. I intend to make a video on this watch since there arent many. im actually excited for this watch, my hopes arent high but from what i can tell it's a pretty decent smart watch for what it costs.
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I think the strap is a standard 24mm wide or just slightly less than 1 inch.
It looks pretty standard with except that the pin holding it is not a spring loaded type but
in fact looks as if it is some sort of screw with a hexaganol head
of the type you would put a very small Allen key in.
Changing it looks as though it should be pretty easy if you have two such Allen keys.
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i guess if the usb connector is not long enough on this one could remove the plastic case and stick some hot glue on it to make it longer.
so i got the impression though that you cannot store music on u8 pro itself, right?
also i`m kind of assuming that you would not be able to use u8 pro with bluetooth headset
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Not quite as easy as that because the metal outer case has to be 8mm all the way back from the tip to the shoulder on the plastic.
I read somewhere about someone stripping back the standard plastic plug and finding just the wires underneath.
There is a web site I found selling the longer tip variety of micro USB plug so if it arrives I will test it and maybe I can post a link.
You are correct I think as so far the only music I have played was on my smart phone.
The Bluetooth headphones might not be a problem as you can probable pair them with your smart phone
if the watch won't recognise them , which I suspect it wont.
The odd thing even then the volume control on the watch, in my case won't communicate with the volume control in my music app.
It will make the tracks skip and pause, pity about the volume control.
It is a dedicated piece of firmware as opposed to Android so it boots up very quickly but there are limitations unless the manufacturer posts updates to the firmware.
The battery life is quite good so far, for me a day of light use at least. Charging is pretty quick. It will of course charge off a lap top or aux battery using its 8mm micro USB cable.
JarlSX said:
so what are the differences between U8 and U8 pro?
hardware looks different, or are there real changes?
software is newer but not that much different?
same BTNotifier app?
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does this clock has an altimeter like the non pro version of this watch?
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does this clock has an altimeter like the non pro version of this watch?
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No
Hi there,
I have an issue which is really coming between me and my sleep.
Here's where I'm at - I have been using an iPhone 6S Plus for a few months which I think is a great phone. But I'm a mobile geek. And I bore easily. And I love Android Wear. I have an S6 Edge Plus which was a loan from Samsung (which they haven't asked back) and I really like the idea of it becoming my daily driver. I'm fully bought into Android as well as iOS as I've been flip flopping between the two OS' for years. And I love the openness of it.
BUT - there is one thing that is stopping me and that is this:
I do a lot of driving for work and I have a great setup with my stereo system, It connects via Bluetooth audio, I can just yell 'Hey Siri' and tell it to, say, 'play music by Louis Armstrong' and with the tight integration with Apple Music and it plays it well. I don't have to take my hands off the wheel and it streams the song within a second or two.
I've always thought Google Now much better, but I have real issues with getting it to play music. I have Spotify installed and I've also added Google Play Music Premium but Samsung appears to have crippled this a bit.. You have to have the phone charging for it to work with the screen off (no biggie - I have a charge in my car), but if I tell it to play music, it says 'OK' and then it does nothing. I have to then unlock the screen before it actually completes the command. Which obviously negates the whole point. I may as well pull over every song and manually do it.
I can't stress how frustrating this is. What I want to do is just be able to say 'OK Google, Play Madonna Holiday' and for it to play the song. Not for me to have to say that, then unlock the phone and repeat all over again.
Some points:
* All voice recognition options in the 'voice detection' settings are enabled.
* When I say 'unlock', I mean get past the lock screen. I have the S6 Edge Plus set up with both my stereo AND Android Wear watch as trusted devices, so the phone isn't refusing to do this from a security standpoint as I just have to swipe the screen to get it to the main home screen, not input a pin or scan a fingerprint.
Any ideas? Would really help me! This is such a small thing, but it really is a killer deal for me in terms of whether I can commit to this phone full time.
Thanks in advance!