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I normally have my phone paired to my helmet with a Sena S20. I can normally issue voice commands, play music, take calls, etc...
Not anymore. On beta 3, it will only let me play music if I physically press play on the phone, which I can't do as I ride down the road with it in my jacked pocket.
The pause and fast forward buttons, don't work. If I enable Google now, I can tell it to pause music, and it will. If I tell it to play music, it won't. If I tell it to play music without the headset, it offers to play it but I have to click on the screen on the app.
Basically, Google now isn't doing most of the things it used to on other phones. And it doesn't let my bt device control the music like it should.
I just paired the headset to my wife's iPhone and it works perfectly.
It used to work on my essential, my op5t, pixel2 xl and op3. No longer works with the essential and I just did a clean reset last week.
Stock, no root. No mods.
Any ideas? I am trying so hard to love this phone but this and other bugs are making it really hard.

SquireSCA said:
I normally have my phone paired to my helmet with a Sena S20. I can normally issue voice commands, play music, take calls, etc...
Not anymore. On beta 3, it will only let me play music if I physically press play on the phone, which I can't do as I ride down the road with it in my jacked pocket.
The pause and fast forward buttons, don't work. If I enable Google now, I can tell it to pause music, and it will. If I tell it to play music, it won't. If I tell it to play music without the headset, it offers to play it but I have to click on the screen on the app.
Basically, Google now isn't doing most of the things it used to on other phones. And it doesn't let my bt device control the music like it should.
I just paired the headset to my wife's iPhone and it works perfectly.
It used to work on my essential, my op5t, pixel2 xl and op3. No longer works with the essential and I just did a clean reset last week.
Stock, no root. No mods.
Any ideas? I am trying so hard to love this phone but this and other bugs are making it really hard.
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Update to latest Google now. Older version did exactly what you said.
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It says its on the latest version. I don't see anything newer in the play store?

SOmehow I got the controls on the headset to work last night on the ride home. Not sure why it was messing up but it now appears to be watching. It might be some sort of conflict with my Android Wear watch. Maybe only one device can control audio at a time? I dunno...
But this Google Now/Assistant problem happens with both Android Auto, and when my phone is just sitting on my desk not connected to anything.
Normally I tell it "Play Music", and it just shuffles the 500 or so songs that are downloaded as MP3's onto the phone, and it plays them through Google Play Music... If I tell it "Play Bruno Mars" it just automatically plays all the Bruno Mars songs... Same with Android Auto.
Now when I tell it those commands, it just brings up the google play music app and I have to then push buttons and play what I want. It's all manual, which defeats the entire purpose of "hands free"... When on Android Auto and I give the same command, it will try to play something from the cloud rather than what I have on the device, but it never does, it just sits there spinning...
I don't like Samsung or any of the devices with curved edge displays... the Pixel2 XL is great but the screens from LG are crap. The OP5T is brilliant, but doesn't get VoLTE on AT&T, so no HD Calling or voice and data on LTE at the same time... The Essential is solid hardware wise, but plagued with it's own bugs and now apparently this Android bug... If I can't get a damned flagship Android phone that I like, that actually works properly... I might have to go back to an iPhone... I can't keep dropping hundreds of dollars on phones for them to "sorta work" or or lack key features...
What can I do to solve this issue, if its saying that I am on the latest version already?

What I am finding is that this is a problem going back to October? Google changed Assistant, so that you can no longer use voice commands to play local music on your device hands free, unless you pay for a subscription?

So, not an essential bug, it's a Google Assistant thing where they now want you to pay $10 a month to be able to use voice commands to listen to the music that you already own. What BS is that?
Google, soon to be out Appling Apple... LOL

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Google, soon to be out Appling Apple... LOL
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LMAO

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New Bluetooth Issue after MR - Weird Problem Playing Music/Podcasts via B/T Speakers

So the bluetooth ROM leak issue is definitely fixed. I can reboot the phone and it is still paired with my car, and I am able to make & receive calls perfectly.
However, when I try to play music or podcasts via the bluetooth speakers, absolutely nothing is heard. The music app/podcast player (BeyondPod) both show that they are playing, but nothing is heard. When I turn bluetooth off, both apps play their respective files perfectly through the phone speaker.
Whats REALLY weird is that when trying to play through bluetooth, they both are playing super fast i.e. for every second that passes in reality, the player says that it has played about 4 seconds (almost like its in fast forward).
Although its great that bluetooth can now pair perfectly and stay paired, Im now completely unable to play any media.
Would like to know if anyone else is experiencing this and/or has any ideas.
This is the ONLY issue I now have with the Hero and Im determined to get it sorted...
Thanks for all the help/comments
dom2114 said:
So the bluetooth ROM leak issue is definitely fixed. I can reboot the phone and it is still paired with my car, and I am able to make & receive calls perfectly.
However, when I try to play music or podcasts via the bluetooth speakers, absolutely nothing is heard. The music app/podcast player (BeyondPod) both show that they are playing, but nothing is heard. When I turn bluetooth off, both apps play their respective files perfectly through the phone speaker.
Whats REALLY weird is that when trying to play through bluetooth, they both are playing super fast i.e. for every second that passes in reality, the player says that it has played about 4 seconds (almost like its in fast forward).
Although its great that bluetooth can now pair perfectly and stay paired, Im now completely unable to play any media.
Would like to know if anyone else is experiencing this and/or has any ideas.
This is the ONLY issue I now have with the Hero and Im determined to get it sorted...
Thanks for all the help/comments
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I have two CDMA Heros in my household, one rooted and one not. The unrooted phone went through the OTA update without problem and it played music over bluetooth speakers without any problem, just as it did before the OTA update.
I think it's an app setting of some sort. Some apps allow you to turn BT audio on and off. Try another app, like ACast or something.
jonnythan said:
I think it's an app setting of some sort. Some apps allow you to turn BT audio on and off. Try another app, like ACast or something.
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is there a setting in the stock music player for this? Im thinking not
Fresh ROM Bluetooth Issue Confirmed - Prevents Media Being played throgh B/T Speakers
OK, so Ive just confirmed that the Fresh 0.4 ROM has an issue with playing media through bluetooth speakers, and Sprint/HTC are 100% NOT responsible for it.
Originally, I restored back to my original Sprint ROM, updated to Fresh 0.4, and all worked perfectly; except for the fact that I was unable to play any media whatsoever through bluetooth speakers (making and receiving phone calls worked fine and all bluetooth ROM leak issues were fixed). What was weird was that the music app and podcast app i was using (BeyondPod) showed that they were playing, but they looked as if they were playing in fast forward i.e. for every second that past, 4 seconds of the song/podcast were played according to the app. NB: The phone and the speakers showed that the link was established perfectly (for whatever thats worth)
I then decided to go back to when I first got the Hero i.e. use the Sprint RUU to unroot and got back to original ROM. Then did the OTA MR.
Playing media through the speakers worked 100% perfectly.
So bottom line, something has been changed/removed in the Fresh ROM that messes up media via bluetooth.
I havent come across anyone else talking about this, but any additional info would be great.
All the best.
I have done a fresh clean (started with Sprint RUU) to a fresh 0.4 update (not from modaco) and i also have this issue. I also tried the above check and i got the same results. Please if you have this issue, contact the makers of fresh rom and let them know of the issue if they do not already know.

Google Play Music All Access RADIO - does not LEARN like Pandora?

I've been using Pandora for awhile now...signed up for the Google Play Music All Access trial on June 30th to lock in the $7.99 price. I love many of the features...but the radio has been an utter failure for me, compared to Pandora.
The app itself, running on my S4, is quite good. It even does a lot better with my car's bluetooth than I expected...no explicit integration like Pandora, but it still works almost the same minus the onscreen song-time bar, cover art, and thumbs up/down buttons. It's not the app or phone that's failing me though...
I find that Pandora learns what I like very quickly. It takes only a few hours of listening and hitting thumbs up/down to teach it to play mostly songs I like.
...on the other hand, I find that All Access Radio does not seem to learn at all. In fact, I am getting the feeling that the thumbs up/down only changes what stations Google recommends I listen to...I spend more time hitting thumbs down on the myriad of random songs it throws at me than I do actually listening to songs I like.
It makes me miss Pandora and wonder if I'm not going to switch back once this trial ends and I have to pay for it...I assume it will get better but I'm really disappointed with the radio so far!
Anyone else experiencing the same? Thanks!
Agree completely. Was really looking forward to using this service like Pandora but it just doesn't work that well. A problem I have found is the radio playlist it does generate is far too small. During a typical work day, the radio could play the same song a hand full of times. If I wanted that, I would just listen to the radio.
It is still new and Google has been updating so we can only hope that Google keeps at it to improve the service.
djteiwaz said:
Agree completely. Was really looking forward to using this service like Pandora but it just doesn't work that well. A problem I have found is the radio playlist it does generate is far too small. During a typical work day, the radio could play the same song a hand full of times. If I wanted that, I would just listen to the radio.
It is still new and Google has been updating so we can only hope that Google keeps at it to improve the service.
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Yea the radio portion does seem to be lacking at the moment but I'm 100% positive it's still a work in progress for Google.
On the bright side I am enjoying Google Music. $7.99 is cheap for unlimited music and since it's off Google I feel like it will be more open then say Rhapsody.
Yep, same boat as you all.
Really hoping to see some improvements going forward or I may cancel my subscription.
Same as you guys, I have Pandora One and love the radio service, but the audio quality is pretty crappy compared to other things. I've been wanting to switch, and I was hoping All Access would be it. The audio quality is MUCH better, and it actually transmits song info to my car via A2DP - something Pandora doesn't. Remote control also works flawlessly with Play Music, whereas in Pandora it's pretty buggy for whatever reason. I have to hit "next" 3 or 4 times before it will switch tracks, whereas in Play Music it switches immediately.
But, the All Access radio service just sucks at this point. I'll probably try it again when it's matured a bit.
Thanks guys - glad to hear others are disappointed with the radio. Several Google searches yielded no discussions about the poor radio service!
I'm quite confident that Google is putting a lot of effort into this and it will only get better. Meanwhile they've probably convinced me to hang around in the meantime for the $7.99 early-adopter price...I guess I can just pay for both GPMAA and Pandora or go with Pandora free for awhile...
I agree that the radio is limited.. but the amount of music offered is pretty freakin dope. It may take an hour or two's work once every couple/few months to keep an updated playlist on what you're feeling.. but the amount to choose from makes it worth it to me. netflix for music. we were all thinkin it.
I just switched over to All Access from Pandora and I have to say I like it a lot better. It may not learn what I like but I can pick any song I want and skip and reorder my playlist. Pandora just played the same stuff over and over too much for me, some days it would play stuff I liked and others it played every song I hated. Another thing that is a HUGE plus for me is the audio quality on All Access, Pandora just sounds like crap through my car stereo. Google sounds better on just my front 3.5" speakers than Pandora does with the 6x9's in the back playing. i'm not sure how much more data Google will be using(my guess is a lot) but I'm not too worried about that since I get 10GB a month.

Bluetooth issues

I have some really weird and annoying issues with bluetooth audio on my Note 3:
1 - Basically whenever the screen turns on or off, the blutooth audio will cut off for few seconds then come back.
2 - When I use it for google map turn by turn navigation, the first seconds of the voices always get cut off, so if the direction is long, I'll hear the end. And if it's short, I won't hear anything.
Anyone else has similar issues? If so any solutions? It's driving me nuts and I'm not even sure if it's the Note 3 issue or Android 4.3. My Note 2 has been working flawlessly with the same setup for the past year. My note 3 is running AT&T stock ROM, rooted and unlocked, froze some bloatware with TB, my bluetooth headset is Jaybird Bluebuds X. thanks for any suggestions!
I had this with my old HTC EVO 3D and my pluggin BT FM Radio device. I thought it was that but my Note 3 works perfect. Nothing like what you described for me.
ItsMeOk said:
I had this with my old HTC EVO 3D and my pluggin BT FM Radio device. I thought it was that but my Note 3 works perfect. Nothing like what you described for me.
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Which version of the note 3 are you using? is it rooted with custom rom or everything stock?
I just deleted all system & user app cache from Titanium Backup, this seems to have solved the first issue. But I still miss first few seconds of spoken direction from google navigation with my bluetooth headset. I'm tempted to do a factory reset now...
UPDATE: I did more testing and have found out more. it seems to only occur during audio stream switching. If no music or audiobook(I use different apps for them) is playing, there is no sound cut off. but if either the music or audiobook is playing, first few seconds of audio from any notification or google voice navigation is cut off.
shinew said:
I have some really weird and annoying issues with bluetooth audio on my Note 3:
1 - Basically whenever the screen turns on or off, the blutooth audio will cut off for few seconds then come back.
2 - When I use it for google map turn by turn navigation, the first seconds of the voices always get cut off, so if the direction is long, I'll hear the end. And if it's short, I won't hear anything.
Anyone else has similar issues? If so any solutions? It's driving me nuts and I'm not even sure if it's the Note 3 issue or Android 4.3. My Note 2 has been working flawlessly with the same setup for the past year. My note 3 is running AT&T stock ROM, rooted and unlocked, froze some bloatware with TB, my bluetooth headset is Jaybird Bluebuds X. thanks for any suggestions!
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Well, that's better than the Bluetooth on my Note 3 LoL. On my Note the voice on the other end is muted every now and then when calling with a Mercedes carkit. (Comander). And... when streaming music to a high end apt-x dongle (HTC car A100) I get some gaps in the music
Never ever had any problems with the same configuration with a gazillion other Android phones
Firmware: international J7
For my note too, MJ7 rom , I have BT- streaming music and sometimes is starts jitterining and cut outs some times, it note my bt car radio that was problem, cause my friends xperja j work flawlessly. Shame with mi6 rom too before it got updated.
This is very annoying for the most expensive and best phone available!
Same on you samsung!
please if you find a solution contact me!
Thanks for this info. I'm choosing between the Note 2 and Note 3 and will go APTX exclusively. Worrying that it cuts out like that.
When it works, what about the actual audio quality with APTX? Have you listened to high resolution FLAC files, and can you tell a difference with the Note3 and APTX on?
having the same problem, really sucks
hi, i having same problem where when i play native default music player and google map at the same time, first seconds of the voices always get cut off, here what i try using apps
music player
MX player, Poweramp player, and native default music player
map navigation
google map and waze
so if try it with native music player, or Poweramp, and google map or waze, first seconds of the voices gets cut off. all the combination would not work,
but if i try mx player and google map or waze, it works fine, but no songs information will display on the car screen, ie singer, alubm, etc wrong show on the car screen, and music control on forward and back etc, but it work, i don't know how to fix this? anyone have find solution ?
shinew said:
I have some really weird and annoying issues with bluetooth audio on my Note 3:
1 - Basically whenever the screen turns on or off, the blutooth audio will cut off for few seconds then come back.
2 - When I use it for google map turn by turn navigation, the first seconds of the voices always get cut off, so if the direction is long, I'll hear the end. And if it's short, I won't hear anything.
Anyone else has similar issues? If so any solutions? It's driving me nuts and I'm not even sure if it's the Note 3 issue or Android 4.3. My Note 2 has been working flawlessly with the same setup for the past year. My note 3 is running AT&T stock ROM, rooted and unlocked, froze some bloatware with TB, my bluetooth headset is Jaybird Bluebuds X. thanks for any suggestions!
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I have the EXACT same problem...no solution yet unfortunately...Ive never had it not working on any other device...my Galaxy s3 it worked flawlessly!!!!!
yan1000 said:
hi, i having same problem where when i play native default music player and google map at the same time, first seconds of the voices always get cut off, here what i try using apps
music player
MX player, Poweramp player, and native default music player
map navigation
google map and waze
so if try it with native music player, or Poweramp, and google map or waze, first seconds of the voices gets cut off. all the combination would not work,
but if i try mx player and google map or waze, it works fine, but no songs information will display on the car screen, ie singer, alubm, etc wrong show on the car screen, and music control on forward and back etc, but it work, i don't know how to fix this? anyone have find solution ?
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Dirtylarry11 said:
I have the EXACT same problem...no solution yet unfortunately...Ive never had it not working on any other device...my Galaxy s3 it worked flawlessly!!!!!
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I've tried both custom & stock rom based on several variant of the 4.3 roms, they all have this issue so eventually i just gave up.
The good news is that I'm running on Kitkat 4.4.2 now, both rooted and stock seem to have fixed the issue, bluetooth audio switching is extremely fast(along with everything else) and no cut off.
hope the new kitkat will fix it
hope the new kitkat will fix it, i'm waiting for the t-mobile to release it, hopefully soon, also i tested on the samsung mega 4.2, it works perfectly, so it just 4.3 version , thanks for the information.

Moto Voice Ringer Volume Bug fixed!

Hey guys!
So I got an update for the Moto Voice app recently on my PE running 5.0. Moto voice used to change ringer volume to work but would leave it at around 75% volume afterwards. I always have my Moto X on vibrate so this was really annoying...
But now after this update it doesn't do that anymore. It sets it back to vibrate once it completes whatever command I issued. Finally! I don't know if this issue has also been fixed in Assist (drive), haven't had a chance to test it out yet.
Just thought I would let you guys know!
Edit: It seems to be faster at processing the commands too! It doesn't take as long to pass the command onto google.
Noticed the quickness had been updated. Not sure about drive is fixed either. But I can vouch it is way quicker processing commands..
Took them long enough. I'd like to give them thumbs up for fixing it but it should have been done last year.
Now, how about they fix attentive display???
I have noticed that the moto voice notifications are a bit louder than before. Still not on equal footing with other apps like Play Music.
When in driving mode, connected to my car's BT radio, to keep the moto voice alerts balanced with play music, I can now turn play music to 75% volume vs 50% volume. The moto voice is turned to 100%. It's an improvement. I would still like to see the moto voice alerts on equal volume level as all other apps though.
It's faster passing commands to Google search for sure.
Unfortunately It now changes your interruption setting (if set to NONE) to ALL. Don't these clowns test this stuff before shipping?!?
Boneheads!
Solutions Etcetera said:
Unfortunately It now changes your interruption setting (if set to NONE) to ALL. Don't these clowns test this stuff before shipping?!?
Boneheads!
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I'm unable to reproduce this
sailindawg said:
I have noticed that the moto voice notifications are a bit louder than before. Still not on equal footing with other apps like Play Music.
When in driving mode, connected to my car's BT radio, to keep the moto voice alerts balanced with play music, I can now turn play music to 75% volume vs 50% volume. The moto voice is turned to 100%. It's an improvement. I would still like to see the moto voice alerts on equal volume level as all other apps though.
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how do you change moto voice alerts volume? I cant hear a thing on my car. It stops the music but the voice is really really low. In contrast, google maps directions work just fine.
piccit said:
I'm unable to reproduce this
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You using a XT1095 running 5.0?
Solutions Etcetera said:
Unfortunately It now changes your interruption setting (if set to NONE) to ALL. Don't these clowns test this stuff before shipping?!?
Boneheads!
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Yeah, I can reproduce that on my PE.
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You using a XT1095 running 5.0?
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1095 running USC 5.0.2
evilnolo said:
how do you change moto voice alerts volume? I cant hear a thing on my car. It stops the music but the voice is really really low. In contrast, google maps directions work just fine.
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When it activates with the volume up button. You have to be quick or have it read notifications so it stays on a bit longer.
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When it activates with the volume up button. You have to be quick or have it read notifications so it stays on a bit longer.
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Oh ok, I checked it is on full volume. It is really strange, if im using my earphones and playing music, I can hear google voice perfectly, but while using an audio cable connected to my car, I cant hear it at all. Any suggestions? Could it be that my cable is faulty? I can hear everything else just fine....
I've never seen that. I use Google Play music, BeyondPod & NPR One in the car. I keep those programs adjusted to 50-75% volume when using my car bluetooth.
However, at work I drive a Ford Escape. Using Microsoft Sync in that car, I find that the volume of Moto voice & my music / podcast apps to be almost on equal footing since the Google services update.
I know that whatever version Sync the car has, it is probably what came stock with the car. The car is probably 5 years old. It seems I get my best in car connectivity with the Escape Sync.
Could be a driver issue with the device or how the phone connects.
I would like it if I could get an aftermarket head with Sync, but it seems only Ford uses this.
If you find this helpful, just give me a thumbs up.
sailindawg said:
I've never seen that. I use Google Play music, BeyondPod & NPR One in the car. I keep those programs adjusted to 50-75% volume when using my car bluetooth.
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I always have the music (play music) at a 100 on my car. Maybe thats the fault. btw I connect through audio cable, not bluetooth. I will try lowering the music volume and also with another cable just to be sure.
Thanks.

Help with voice control/playing music

Hi there,
I have an issue which is really coming between me and my sleep.
Here's where I'm at - I have been using an iPhone 6S Plus for a few months which I think is a great phone. But I'm a mobile geek. And I bore easily. And I love Android Wear. I have an S6 Edge Plus which was a loan from Samsung (which they haven't asked back) and I really like the idea of it becoming my daily driver. I'm fully bought into Android as well as iOS as I've been flip flopping between the two OS' for years. And I love the openness of it.
BUT - there is one thing that is stopping me and that is this:
I do a lot of driving for work and I have a great setup with my stereo system, It connects via Bluetooth audio, I can just yell 'Hey Siri' and tell it to, say, 'play music by Louis Armstrong' and with the tight integration with Apple Music and it plays it well. I don't have to take my hands off the wheel and it streams the song within a second or two.
I've always thought Google Now much better, but I have real issues with getting it to play music. I have Spotify installed and I've also added Google Play Music Premium but Samsung appears to have crippled this a bit.. You have to have the phone charging for it to work with the screen off (no biggie - I have a charge in my car), but if I tell it to play music, it says 'OK' and then it does nothing. I have to then unlock the screen before it actually completes the command. Which obviously negates the whole point. I may as well pull over every song and manually do it.
I can't stress how frustrating this is. What I want to do is just be able to say 'OK Google, Play Madonna Holiday' and for it to play the song. Not for me to have to say that, then unlock the phone and repeat all over again.
Some points:
* All voice recognition options in the 'voice detection' settings are enabled.
* When I say 'unlock', I mean get past the lock screen. I have the S6 Edge Plus set up with both my stereo AND Android Wear watch as trusted devices, so the phone isn't refusing to do this from a security standpoint as I just have to swipe the screen to get it to the main home screen, not input a pin or scan a fingerprint.
Any ideas? Would really help me! This is such a small thing, but it really is a killer deal for me in terms of whether I can commit to this phone full time.
Thanks in advance!

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