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Moto X models comparison

The attached table summarizes the specs of different models. I think this should be sticky

amarguli said:
The attached table summarizes the specs of different models. I think this should be sticky
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Thank you for the summary. I was trying to find a clear answer on this all over and this is the only place ive seen it sumarized. Im looking to get a moto x for tmobile, but I wanted to make sure that it had 1700 HSDPA. It seems only the dev model and the t mobile version do.

Thanks for posting this. I am quite sure the Rogers version supports the exact same LTE bands as AT&T. I know for certain it supports band 4 as that is what I'm using mine with.

I found this info in Rogers website. Is it a mistake?

amarguli said:
I found this info in Rogers website. Is it a mistake?
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I don't think its a mistake, its just that Rogers only lists the bands they actually use, not the bands the phone supports. I'm surprised they claim LTE band 7. While Rogers uses it the FCC data for the phone doesn't list any approval for band 7 that I can find.(yes Rogers is in Canada but our approvals generally follow the FCC info)
I figure that the way Motorola differentiates between the bands supported would be the model number, such as XT-1058.
This is why your table is so valuable, the info is very hard to find. I'm not using my Rogers Moto X with Rogers, just like many others want to buy a Moto X for another provider so if you can get the info bang on it will help many people.
edit - did more research and I'm very confident the Rogers Moto X supports LTE bands 2,4,5,17 - the same as AT&T's XT-1058 as the FCC ID on the Rogers phone is the same as AT&T and Motorola's own test reports list LTE bands 2,4,5, and 17.
edit #2 - I looked up the Canadian certification, there is no 2600 mhz in the Moto X.

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amarguli said:
Just talked to Rogers customer service. Here is their answer
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That is great that Rogers thinks its a 2600mhz device, but it isn't. The iFixit tear down found no 2600 mhz hardware, the Industry Canada certification has no request for or approval given for 2600 mhz and the FCC certification has no request for or approval given for 2600 mhz.
So no matter what Rogers says, there isn't 2600 mhz support in the XT-1058.
The only way its possible is if Motorola put different hardware into a phone with the same XT-1058 model number(not gonna happen) and if they didn't bother to tell Industry Canada or the FCC that it was present, in which case they will be a in a lot of trouble very soon.

Steve-x said:
That is great that Rogers thinks its a 2600mhz device, but it isn't. The iFixit tear down found no 2600 mhz hardware, the Industry Canada certification has no request for or approval given for 2600 mhz and the FCC certification has no request for or approval given for 2600 mhz.
So no matter what Rogers says, there isn't 2600 mhz support in the XT-1058.
The only way its possible is if Motorola put different hardware into a phone with the same XT-1058 model number(not gonna happen) and if they didn't bother to tell Industry Canada or the FCC that it was present, in which case they will be a in a lot of trouble very soon.
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I dont know why Moto make so hard to find the LTE bands Moto X supports. But I have a XT1058 that I bought in Brazil and use in LTE band 7 (2600 mhz) . This same model is for sale in Claro Chile that uses LTE band 7 also. My phone is assembled in Brazil but it has FCC ID IHDT56PA1 Type M0DD7.I don't believe Moto uses a different hardware with the same model name.

The model info is available on the Wikipedia Moto X page. It clearly states which model is capable of which frequency/band there.

rds_sp,
Can you please post a screenshot of system info that clearly shows LTE B7?

amarguli said:
rds_sp,
Can you please post a screenshot of system info that clearly shows LTE B7?
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OK, I finally found information from the FCC that confirms the XT1058 does in fact have 2600 Mhz Band 7 LTE. However it is not approved for use in the US. The normal AT&T firmware has the band disabled, however someone has confirmed that the AT&T 4.4 leak has it enabled(Likely an error).
The Rogers XT1058 should have band 7 enabled in firmware however LTE band 17 is disabled.(700 mhz)
The IC (Industry Canada) certification is all messed up and doesn't indicate the proper bands the phone supports.

One correction...I don't think Sprint has a 32GB version.

Steve-x said:
OK, I finally found information from the FCC that confirms the XT1058 does in fact have 2600 Mhz Band 7 LTE. However it is not approved for use in the US. The normal AT&T firmware has the band disabled, however someone has confirmed that the AT&T 4.4 leak has it enabled(Likely an error).
The Rogers XT1058 should have band 7 enabled in firmware however LTE band 17 is disabled.(700 mhz)
The IC (Industry Canada) certification is all messed up and doesn't indicate the proper bands the phone supports.
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Very interesting. Looking to pick one of these up from rogers and use it on telus. Wondering if Telus has band 7 lte 2600Mhz. Or is that JUST rogers? Im hearing that buying from rogers and sim unlocking will only get hspa+ on Telus. Anyone confirm or have a clear answer on that?

TITANote2LTE said:
Very interesting. Looking to pick one of these up from rogers and use it on telus. Wondering if Telus has band 7 lte 2600Mhz. Or is that JUST rogers? Im hearing that buying from rogers and sim unlocking will only get hspa+ on Telus. Anyone confirm or have a clear answer on that?
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Telus does not have any band 7 LTE, however they do have band 4 LTE (AWS band) and it works great with a Rogers/Fido Moto X that has been unlocked(8 bucks). I have two in front me to prove it works!

Steve-x said:
Telus does not have any band 7 LTE, however they do have band 4 LTE (AWS band) and it works great with a Rogers/Fido Moto X that has been unlocked(8 bucks). I have two in front me to prove it works!
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Excellent! thanks for the quick reply and pretty much sums that up. Unlocking is $8 for me as well ha. Was just making sure LTE would still work on Telus. Thanks again

TITANote2LTE said:
Very interesting. Looking to pick one of these up from rogers and use it on telus. Wondering if Telus has band 7 lte 2600Mhz. Or is that JUST rogers? Im hearing that buying from rogers and sim unlocking will only get hspa+ on Telus. Anyone confirm or have a clear answer on that?
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I understand that rogers has band 4, 7 & 10 for LTE, I'm running the at&t 4.4 firmware on my rogers moto. I'll confirm if I do receive LTE with speed test
Confirmed LTE works download speed 58 MB/s.
As for telus, I can't tell but I do see chatr as available under mobile networks same for bell and telus
Sent on my Moto X

amarguli said:
rds_sp,
Can you please post a screenshot of system info that clearly shows LTE B7?
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I'm pretty sure the T-Mobile X is Sim unlockable
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VZW XT1060 is bands 4/13 not just 13. Basically it works on VZW LTE and T-Mobile and AT&T as well.
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arcanexvi said:
VZW XT1060 is bands 4/13 not just 13. Basically it works on VZW LTE and T-Mobile and AT&T as well.
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I believe the Verizon Moto X can support band 4 but needs a software update to enable it. Has anyone tried putting a T-Mobile SIM in their Verizon X to see?
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landale said:
I believe the Verizon Moto X can support band 4 but needs a software update to enable it. Has anyone tried putting a T-Mobile SIM in their Verizon X to see?
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Yes
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Bands by Model # per Motorola's Spec sheet

Bands (by model)
Moto X - Pure Edition (GSM Unlocked with T-Mobile SIM - XT1095):
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700 (AWS), 1900, 2100 MHz)
4G LTE (02, 04, 17)
AT&T (XT1097):
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700 (AWS), 1900, 2100 MHz)
4G LTE (02, 03, 04, 05, 07, 17)
Verizon (XT1096):
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz)
CDMA (850, 1900 MHz)
4G LTE (02, 03, 04, 07, 13)
Had been hoping the Pure Edition would cover all of AT&T's bands too. Oh well.

If this is true I will return my Moto X. This is bs that the pure edition doesn't support all AT&T bands. Why can't the pure edition not support all gsm bands. Omg I am so angry.
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mgymnop said:
If this is true I will return my Moto X. This is bs that the pure edition doesn't support all AT&T bands. Why can't the pure edition not support all gsm bands. Omg I am so angry.
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Looks like it does

I wonder how much difference it'll actually make when it comes to connectivity and speed?
I ordered the the pure edition based on reports that the model would play fine with att LTE. I will not return it f it does not get all of the Bands though. I am curious as to why Motorola didn't put all of the same radio bands into the pure edition.

I don't think att uses those other bands yet. Maybe they plan to in the future or something

AT&T only uses bands 2, 4, and 17 in the US currently anyway so the pure edition will be fine.

So i'm from south america and my carrier uses lte cat 3. Which one should i get? The at&t or verizon should work. The thing is, how to get those models without contract..

sabbotage said:
AT&T only uses bands 2, 4, and 17 in the US currently anyway so the pure edition will be fine.
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Thus, it explains the reason for just those bands!
Durp.

There's a lot of half-truths out there about the Pure Edition working on AT&T. It's true that it supports AT&T's major LTE bands, but it doesn't support them all. If you're OK with having access to most of AT&T's LTE network, then it's probably not an issue.
This is from a discussion that I started on G+ Moto X forum:
"Almost all the LTE in Vermont is band 5, and I frequently travel there for business and pleasure. The HSPA+ network is unusable in places like Burlington.
For the second year in a row, however, the unlocked Moto X doesn't allow its users from accessing all of AT&T's LTE network. I think this is a fact that a lot of news outlets and members of this community leave out because it doesn't affect them. The blanket statement by +Motorola Mobility and members of this community that "it is confirmed to work on AT&T" and the like is misleading and only true if the standard of "working" is that it can at least connect to some sort of network, just not necessarily the current generation network."

It seems like the Pure Edition is mainly geared toward T-Mobile. It is missing band 12, but not every where has that. Tmo operates on band 4. T-Mobile is "pure" so it makes sense lol jk
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0.0 said:
It seems like the Pure Edition is mainly geared toward T-Mobile. It is missing band 12, but not every where has that. Tmo operates on band 4. T-Mobile is "pure" so it makes sense lol jk
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LOL. I think it is just plain stupid from Motorola to have two GSM models for the US market. Do they really used different hardware to cover the different bands or are they just disabled? First would be completely stupid.

I'd much rather that the Pure Edition have all the bands of the AT&T flavor, but as stated by @sabbotage, it would appear AT&T only uses 2, 4 and 17 in the US anyway:
List of LTE Networks

sogrady said:
I'd much rather that the Pure Edition have all the bands of the AT&T flavor, but as stated by @sabbotage, it would appear AT&T only uses 2, 4 and 17 in the US anyway:
List of LTE Networks
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But T-mobile is bringing Band 12 online, and that is not supported. It does really look like there is an F-up here someplace. Hopefully only in the information released.

Note10.1Dude said:
But T-mobile is bringing Band 12 online, and that is not supported. It does really look like there is an F-up here someplace. Hopefully only in the information released.
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Yes exactly and AT&T is using band 5 at the east coast (VT).

sogrady said:
I'd much rather that the Pure Edition have all the bands of the AT&T flavor, but as stated by @sabbotage, it would appear AT&T only uses 2, 4 and 17 in the US anyway:
List of LTE Networks
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I wonder if that info is even all correct. That's always what I went by, but it shows band 5 being strictly US Cellular and a few posts back the one person said Vermont is almost all AT&T band 5. So if that is correct then AT&T must be starting to just roll out band 5.

Note10.1Dude said:
But T-mobile is bringing Band 12 online, and that is not supported. It does really look like there is an F-up here someplace. Hopefully only in the information released.
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Band 12 is only in some places. It'll probably matter more in a year or so
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sabbotage said:
I wonder if that info is even all correct. That's always what I went by, but it shows band 5 being strictly US Cellular and a few posts back the one person said Vermont is almost all AT&T band 5. So if that is correct then AT&T must be starting to just roll out band 5.
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AT&T uses 17 as the main LTE band in the US, 4 in major cities where overhead is high and 2 is just starting now for overhead refarming the PCS spectrum. Nowhere do they use 5 at all. The phone will work fine with AT&T.

It's the same mess from the 2013 MotoX
XT 1053 = XT 1095
XT 1058 = XT 1097
I can't believe they still release a UNBRANDED PURE version with less LTE band support than the AT&T one.
XT 1097 will be used in canada also, europe, parts of asia and is the one selling in brazil since the beggining of september.
So if you want a true LTE global phone, you are stuck with ATT.

Copied from link below:
Bring your own device to AT&T
You can bring your own phone or tablet to AT&T with no annual service contract, if your device is unlocked - not programmed to work exclusively on another wireless network, and will work on one of these GSM network frequencies:
•3G UMTS network in the 850 / 1900MHz bands
•4G LTE network AWS / 700 / 850 / 1900MHz bands
Check your device manufacturer's website to see which frequency bands your device supports, and for information about unlocking your device.
https://www.att.com/esupport/article.jsp?sid=KB113269
Band 5 is 850?

will the att version work on european lte?

New Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo 32GB Clean ESN Black Ballistic Nylon Unlocked

Hi ive just Won this device on Ebay,
I live in Denmark(Europe)
Clean ESN do any of you know what it means?
Also isn´t this an global device? Talked to Motorola support and they couldn´t promise me that it would work in Europa as it was Verizon only device?'
To me it sounds like BS
But now i worry if it can be used in my network
Thnx all

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Hi ive just Won this device on Ebay,
I live in Denmark(Europe)
Clean ESN do any of you know what it means?
Also isn´t this an global device? Talked to Motorola support and they couldn´t promise me that it would work in Europa as it was Verizon only device?'
To me it sounds like BS
But now i worry if it can be used in my network
Thnx all
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Cleasn ESN: The jist of it, is it not blacklisted on Verizon, It can be activated, in other words.
It is a Verizon exclusive unlocked global device (which technically isnt true anymore due to Moto Maxx). It will work as long as it supports your carrier's frequencies.

SuperBilleN said:
Hi ive just Won this device on Ebay,
I live in Denmark(Europe)
Clean ESN do any of you know what it means?
Also isn´t this an global device? Talked to Motorola support and they couldn´t promise me that it would work in Europa as it was Verizon only device?'
To me it sounds like BS
But now i worry if it can be used in my network
Thnx all
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You understand that Europa is one of Jupiters moon's, right?

thegrants82 said:
You understand that Europa is one of Jupiters moon's, right?
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It'll work there too as long as Europa carriers are transmitting on LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 7, 13.
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2G bands
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
CDMA 800 / 1900
3G bands
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
CDMA2000 1xEV-DO
4G
LTE: 700 / 1700 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600 (Bands 2, 3, 4, 7, 13)
Code name for Droid Turbo/Moto Maxx is QUARK -- so of course it was made for space travel.

Actually, Moto Maxx is GSM only and has LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 7, 17.
Droid Turbo is GSM/CDMA with LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 7, 13.

thegrants82 said:
You understand that Europa is one of Jupiters moon's, right?
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How is this relevant? LOL
Anyways clean ESN means is safe to activate on any compatible network because the first buyer did not default on his contract. I think this would only affect it if you were to activate it on Verizon (USA) not sure tho.

MauricioBR said:
Actually, Moto Maxx is GSM only and has LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 7, 17.
Droid Turbo is GSM/CDMA with LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 7, 13.
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He said he won the Droid Turbo. I gave the specs for the Droid Turbo. So, I'm not sure what you are correcting.
But if you want to talk Moto Maxx, I'll correct you. The Moto Maxx (XT1225) has LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17 -- in spite of what Motorola lists on the "official" specs. I know because the NV bands show it. I own two Moto Maxx phones.
The phone with the Moto Maxx FCC ID went through FCC testing with LTE band 5, and Motorola never disabled it. They added LTE band 3 to sell in Latin America. They do not list LTE band 5, but when you root and scan with QPST and QXDM sofware you see it's there.
FCC Documents. Note the FCC ID.
Same FCC ID:
Discussed extensively in another thread. Present on both the Puerto Rico and Mexico Moto Maxx phones. Since the same FCC ID number is also listed on Brazil Moto Maxx, it's all Moto Maxx phones.
Using the NV bands calculator, the sum for LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 7, 17 should be 65,614. But we have 65, 630. The only combination that gives you 65, 630 is LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17 -- which makes sense since LTE band 5 was enabled when it was tested by the FCC.
It's still there, ready to be used. Jut not admitted by Motorola since LTE band 5 is not used in Latin America. To make the phone be the Moto Maxx (XT12225 )for Latin America, Motorola added LTE band 3, added two more GSM bands -- but never disabled LTE band 5.
Even in the equivalence letter, Motorola never stated all the LTE bands the FCC found:

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I'm not exactly familiar with LTE bands and such, but does that mean that the Moto Maxx will work with CDMA networks such as Verizon, too?

Sometimes I think its a good idea to make separate threads for these 2 devices. I would really help avoid these confusions.
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ChazzMatt said:
He said he won the Droid Turbo. I gave the specs for the Droid Turbo. So, I'm not sure what you are correcting.
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Hahah, sorry. My comment was more towards @adrynalyne who had said it wasn't true anymore that it's a verizon exclusive.
My understanding is that the modem is still different, as not all bands are mentioned on the declaration of equivalence.

Moto X Style = Unlockable Bootloader?

I'm hoping the Moto X style Pure will have an unlockable bootloader. If it is sold "carrier free" then it shouldn't need carrier approval to unlock the bootloader, right? Anybody have any info?
If it's unlockable, it might replace my Nexus 6 - even without Wireless Charging

I hope so. That's the only reason I didn't get a moto x 2014. I loved the 2013 dev edition. I'm using a nexus 6 atm but would definitely get the new moto x just for the sdcard support.
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orcsbane13 said:
I hope so. That's the only reason I didn't get a moto x 2014. I loved the 2013 dev edition. I'm using a nexus 6 atm but would definitely get the new moto x just for the sdcard support.
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the pure edition for 2014 has an unlockable bootloader, actually most versions of the moto x 2014 got unlockable bootloaders (i think)

The Verizon and at&t models were not unlockable(officially, not sure if they've been unlocked by vulnerabilities) and the pure edition was not supported on Verizon.
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orcsbane13 said:
The Verizon and at&t models were not unlockable(officially, not sure if they've been unlocked by vulnerabilities) and the pure edition was not supported on Verizon.
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For these reasons I'm hoping we can use this on Verizon and unlock
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Moto has zero interest payment plans..

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For these reasons I'm hoping we can use this on Verizon and unlock
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The reason the Moto X 2014 Pure Edition was not supported by Verizon is because it was strictly a GSM phone. The new Moto X is a global phone with virtually all bands unlocked meaning you will be able to use it on AT&T, T-Mobile AND Verizon. Verizon uses LTE bands 4 and 13 and the X supports all these wireless technologies. LTE cat. 6 (up to 300 Mbps)WCDMA, CDMA, EV-DO, TD-SCDMA, GSM/EDGE. So in short this phone will be capable of running on pretty much any carrier you wish to use. We must note that this is for the Pure Edition only and not the Style, the Style version is strictly GSM just like the Pure Edition of 2014.
Bands
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz)
CDMA (800, 850, 1900 MHz)
4G LTE (B1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 25, 26, 38, 41)
(Info taken from Motorola's official site.)

for tmobile it will be unlocked

This is basically a nexus with some useful Moto apps. I would say it is even better than a nexus due to those added apps which are useful.
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It's a nexus without wifi calling unfortunately. Unless the style gets it.

NCguy said:
It's a nexus without wifi calling unfortunately. Unless the style gets it.
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Can they add wifi calling with a software update?

jtorress said:
. We must note that this is for the Pure Edition only and not the Style, the Style version is strictly GSM just like the Pure Edition of 2014.
Bands
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz)
CDMA (800, 850, 1900 MHz)
4G LTE (B1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 25, 26, 38, 41)
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Correction there is only 3 phones from what I read.
Moto x Style or pure edition - US sold. GSM/CMDA
Moto x Play - International Sold. GSM
Moto G - GSM
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Moto-X-Style-vs-Moto-X-Play-vs-Moto-G-2015-specs-comparison_id72052

Not sure what you are correcting from my quote. The moto G is a completely diferent phone with its own thread .

Exactly you didn't read.

NCguy said:
It's a nexus without wifi calling unfortunately. Unless the style gets it.
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DaleGriggs said:
Can they add wifi calling with a software update?
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Android M Betas are already working with T-Mobile's WiFi calling. And the same will be the case for the Moto X Style/Pure. It will have WiFi calling via Android M. Already been done and nothing special Moto needs to do, other than offer the Android M update once available.
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jtorress said:
The reason the Moto X 2014 Pure Edition was not supported by Verizon is because it was strictly a GSM phone.
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Right but the issue is why was it just a GSM phone? They had a Verizon Moto X 2013 Dev Ed and the Moto X 2015 works on all 4 carriers. Why didn't the Moto X 2014 Pure Edition either have CDMA radios like the Moto X 2015 or come in a Verizon Pure Edition version like the Moto X 2013 Dev Ed? I think Verizon didn't want a phone with an unlockable bootloader on their network.
Now that Motorola is giving the carriers the finger, we can have a Moto X 2015 that works on Verizon and has an unlockable bootloader again.

StankFiss said:
Correction there is only 3 phones from what I read.
Moto x Style or pure edition - US sold. GSM/CMDA
Moto x Play - International Sold. GSM
Moto G - GSM
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Moto-X-Style-vs-Moto-X-Play-vs-Moto-G-2015-specs-comparison_id72052
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I live in Europe. And I am thinking of buying the Pure edition in US because it is cheaper. Will I be able to use it here? I suppose so, but no one is mentioning it, everybody is just saying that it will be unlocked for all of the US carriers.

It's possible that it was indeed Verizon's influence but also maybe because CDMA support was not that important to Motorola. CDMA is a small fraction of their business in my opinion. GSM is the king of wireless around the world. I'm just glad to see Moto moving away from that and bringing such great devices truly global. (Its all my opinion)

JulesJam said:
Right but the issue is why was it just a GSM phone? They had a Verizon Moto X 2013 Dev Ed and the Moto X 2015 works on all 4 carriers. Why didn't the Moto X 2014 Pure Edition either have CDMA radios like the Moto X 2015 or come in a Verizon Pure Edition version like the Moto X 2013 Dev Ed? I think Verizon didn't want a phone with an unlockable bootloader on their network.
Now that Motorola is giving the carriers the finger, we can have a Moto X 2015 that works on Verizon and has an unlockable bootloader again.
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That sounds like a dream lol. Can't wait

jtorress said:
It's possible that it was indeed Verizon's influence but also maybe because CDMA support was not that important to Motorola. CDMA is a small fraction of their business in my opinion. GSM is the king of wireless around the world. I'm just glad to see Moto moving away from that and bringing such great devices truly global. (Its all my opinion)
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I think prior to the Moto X 2013 the bulk of Motorola Android phones were on Verizon and Sprint. I suspect that in the US the CDMA carriers are very important to Motorola. Don't forget about the Verizon Droid line too.

[Q] Difference between Moto X Style and Moto X Pure?

Are these the same phone? I thought they were different but when I went to customize the Pure, it gave options I thought was what differentiated with the Style.
What if anything is the difference?

AFAIK, in the US it's the Pure. Everywhere else it's known as the Style.

I think the radios in both phones might be different. Outside of that they are the same phones.

So is it possible to order the Pure for places in Europe?
Hey guys,
posting from Germany. I really love the design of the Pure/Style, but there's one thing that bugs me: Moto X Pure: $399; Moto X Style 499€ ???
I mean, that's more than a 100€ extra for basically the same phone. I recently discovered a method for ordering in the US as a European Citizen,
so I'm asking myself if it was possible to use the Pure edition instead of the way more expensive Style edition here in Germany?
In doing so, may I have to deal with worse connectivity? If it helps: I'm currently on o2.
Furthermore: faster updates. A User review somewhere said that Motorola US usually updates one month after a new Android version; Motorola
Germany however takes two months.
TL;DR: Moto X Pure usable in Germany? Only Advantages.
Appreciate every idea concerning this "problem"!
L.

Main differences are that the Style has dual SIM capability (US Pure does not) and the radios are different.
Style Bands:
UMTS GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (800, 850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz)
4G LTE (B1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20, 25, 28, 40, 41)
Pure Bands:
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700 (AWS),1900, 2100 MHz)
CDMA (800, 850, 1900 MHz)
4G LTE (B1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 25, 26, 38, 41)
As for using it on O2 in Germany, looks like you would lose 800 UMTS and it looks like O2 may use LTE bands 20 and 3 (e-plus), which the Pure only supports 3 (not 20) -- so you may not get the best use of the speed on the Pure vs the Style.

Thanks for the radio comparison. So the only up side to getting a Pure is the Motomaker availability then? If so, I guess I have to wait for it to become available here in the Philippines. :-/

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SUNNY-Blue said:
Thanks for the radio comparison. So the only up side to getting a Pure is the Motomaker availability then? If so, I guess I have to wait for it to become available here in the Philippines. :-/
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It'll be worth the wait. Especially When Motorola releases the interchangeable back covers!

masterjay21 said:
It'll be worth the wait. Especially When Motorola releases the interchangeable back covers!
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The Pure/Style doesn't have interchangeable back covers.

brholt6 said:
The Pure/Style doesn't have interchangeable back covers.
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You know what you're correct. I was misinformed by a friend. looks like this could be as close as you'd get to changing it by force. :laugh:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MotoX/comments/3jm7r3/dumb_question_are_all_moto_x_pure_back_covers/

pinoymutt said:
Main differences are that the Style has dual SIM capability (US Pure does not) and the radios are different.
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Just to add... unless I'm going blind or crazy (or both... quite possible), the UK version of the Style (ordered from Moto maker) does not have dual sim.

@Skyerin, if it's ordered via MotoMaker, doesn't that make it Pure so no dual SIM support?

SUNNY-Blue said:
@Skyerin, if it's ordered via MotoMaker, doesn't that make it Pure so no dual SIM support?
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No. Pure is only in the US. I've posted the images on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62939410&postcount=72