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I'm a little confused as to why so many people are waiting instead of updating to the available 4.4.2. People been clamoring for the update and it's finally available and everyone is asking if they should update or shouldn't?
The Knox issue I can understand, but I've rooted all my devices the day I get them from the HTC nexus one days. I didnt even boot into my Note 10.1 2014 stock, out the box I installed twrp and rooted. The benefits of root far outweigh potential issues and the guides are fool proof. Re warranty, I've seen no reports of Samsung turning anyone back because of Knox. Case in point so many of the refurbished ones sold recently were received with Knox tripped, it's not that big a deal, besides, especially for those in America, most stores offer 30 day returns no questions asked so it's neither here nor there.
The fact is, the update is available now, it makes the tablet so much more of a joy to use and has so many improvements that I just don't get this whole "should I wait? When will the OTA come to my country" thing. Anyhow, I guess to each his own, but the reality is some of you waiting potentially may not even live long enough for the update you're waiting on lol. Live in the now guys!
Also, so many are complaining about the exclusion of Magazine UX, though almost everyone on here says the first thing they do is install Nova or some other launcher, so why is it an issue for them? It's just odd...
Anyhow, rant done.
Lol.
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I'd love to update, but I've kept it stock since launch. I have many notes for school on papyrus that I would like to keep, but I understand that data wipe is recommended. Any way around this?
Id love to root and use a few xposed mods to make it more like the pro series.
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thachosenone said:
I'd love to update, but I've kept it stock since launch. I have many notes for school on papyrus that I would like to keep, but I understand that data wipe is recommended. Any way around this?
Id love to root and use a few xposed mods to make it more like the pro series.
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If you just want Papyrus notes backup, it looks like their cloud services premium feature will do it if you don't mind the $3 in app purchase. If you are looking for a more comprehensive option, there are several ways to backup your data. Through a little Googling, I found this guide to backing up using adb without root. Or you can go ahead and root before updating, and then use something like Titanium Backup to back up your data and then restore. This is just from a cursory look for options, look around, read into different things and see which approach fits your needs.
KNOX doesn't bother me as regards losing warranty. It has stopped me from rooting for the first time ever for fear of resale consequences. I just know that if I sell it on eBay with knox tripped and I do disclose it in my description people will be asking for a lower price whereas if I don't mention it the buyer will be contacting me a week later moaning that I didn't tell him I'd tripped knox. A real potential headache that I can't be bothered with so samsung have finally succeeded in stopping me rooting my device one way or another.
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thachosenone said:
I'd love to update, but I've kept it stock since launch. I have many notes for school on papyrus that I would like to keep, but I understand that data wipe is recommended. Any way around this?
Id love to root and use a few xposed mods to make it more like the pro series.
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If you pay for papyrus you can backup to Dropbox. Also, updating with Odin you won't lose any information. I didn't wipe before updating and I have no issues whatsoever.
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A couple of reasons...
The N10.1-14 is a productivity/creation device; at least Samsung's marketing that way. Some people do actually connect to secure networks and more and more are reading the KNOX chip for authentication. I personally use KNOX and three of the five secure networks I connect to are KNOX enabled.
The question of warranty support on devices with tripped KNOX flags is kind of grey. Not everyone wants to personally test Samsung's warranty policies.
Rooted devices can't use AllShare Cast, have DRM issues with certain apps, can't play DRM content acquired from Samsung Hub, and can't receive OTA updates. Xposed can overcome some of that but not everyone wants a "Franken-phone."
Regional ROMs have very different feature sets. A personal example. Someone here was raving about the performance improvements of the new P601 ROM for Guatemala so I tried it. They failed to mention it was a carrier ROM (Claro), all the stock app icons were replaced with crappy looking "Claro" interpretations, 500MB of non-removable demo games were installed, and Samsung Hub no longer supported anything but books. When I flashed back to the Trinidad ROM the Guatemala ROM either overlaid or removed a file causing an indexing FC loop. I had to completely wipe and rebuild my tablet to get back to where I started in the first place. My tablets are typically from Trinidad which serves the Caribbean and parts of Central and South America and have most of the North American features enabled. I never use Asian ROMs, Eastern European ROMs, Latin American ROMs (other than Brazil) or any carrier ROM from anywhere. Both because of what's missing and what's needlessly included.
None of this matters to people who bought their N10.1-14 as a piece of h/w but does to those of us that use and value its features. Probably 1/3 here actually appreciate the stock features, 1/3 hate TW and Samsung's proprietary apps, and the other 1/3 are somewhere in between. To each their own.
As an add on, there is no risk in trying the update. There is no Knox trip and once our Ota arrives just use Odin to flash that on top. Either way you don't risk anything and you get to enjoy kitkat. Seriously there is no reason anyone on this forum should not be trying this amazing update.
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I use the wifi+3g version of the note 10.1(2014). I am not going to risk updating until someone else does it and shows me screenshots of the update not ****ing up their device in anyway. Till then,fingers are tightly crossed!
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If you just want Papyrus notes backup, it looks like their cloud services premium feature will do it if you don't mind the $3 in app purchase. If you are looking for a more comprehensive option, there are several ways to backup your data. Through a little Googling, I found this guide to backing up using adb without root. Or you can go ahead and root before updating, and then use something like Titanium Backup to back up your data and then restore. This is just from a cursory look for options, look around, read into different things and see which approach fits your needs.
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I get an error trying to purchase the in app backup option. I'm in the usa
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pierrekid said:
As an add on, there is no risk in trying the update. There is no Knox trip and once our Ota arrives just use Odin to flash that on top. Either way you don't risk anything and you get to enjoy kitkat. Seriously there is no reason anyone on this forum should not be trying this amazing update.
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Isn't there a risk I may have to do a factory reset if I'm having issues after the flash? I really couldn't be bothered setting everything up and getting all the data I have back on it.
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poplectic said:
Isn't there a risk I may have to do a factory reset if I'm having issues after the flash? I really couldn't be bothered setting everything up and getting all the data I have back on it.
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That's the same risk you take updating to any new software. It's the same recommendation whether it be an official update or a custom ROM. So no there is no elevated risk.
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pierrekid said:
That's the same risk you take updating to any new software. It's the same recommendation whether it be an official update or a custom ROM. So no there is no elevated risk.
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And this is one of the positives of root...a nandroid backup! Before any update I do a nandroid backup in twrp so should anything go wrong, I just restore and it comes back exactly as it was when baked up.
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Exactly. With an official update you don't even have that option
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That's the same risk you take updating to any new software. It's the same recommendation whether it be an official update or a custom ROM. So no there is no elevated risk.
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Stop it! You've almost got me convinced!
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Exactly. With an official update you don't even have that option
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If there is risk in bricking my tablet from an official firmware, will it still void my warranty by updating?
Is there a root method yet? I would like to use xposed mods to make this a pro line tablet.
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Is there a root method yet? I would like to use xposed mods to make this a pro line tablet.
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Root has been available since October.
Just want to clarify. You guys are talking about the KK update on P600 right?
poplectic said:
Stop it! You've almost got me convinced!
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I know it sucks :/ I've always rooted and ran custom roms on my devices going back to my S1 and HTC desire. I don't fear the potential warranty issues myself, its just the resale of it is going to be 10x more difficult FYI I've never held on to a device for more than 2 years.
toyanucci said:
I'm a little confused as to why so many people are waiting instead of updating to the available 4.4.2. People been clamoring for the update and it's finally available and everyone is asking if they should update or shouldn't?
The Knox issue I can understand, but I've rooted all my devices the day I get them from the HTC nexus one days. I didnt even boot into my Note 10.1 2014 stock, out the box I installed twrp and rooted. The benefits of root far outweigh potential issues and the guides are fool proof. Re warranty, I've seen no reports of Samsung turning anyone back because of Knox. Case in point so many of the refurbished ones sold recently were received with Knox tripped, it's not that big a deal, besides, especially for those in America, most stores offer 30 day returns no questions asked so it's neither here nor there.
The fact is, the update is available now, it makes the tablet so much more of a joy to use and has so many improvements that I just don't get this whole "should I wait? When will the OTA come to my country" thing. Anyhow, I guess to each his own, but the reality is some of you waiting potentially may not even live long enough for the update you're waiting on lol. Live in the now guys!
Also, so many are complaining about the exclusion of Magazine UX, though almost everyone on here says the first thing they do is install Nova or some other launcher, so why is it an issue for them? It's just odd...
Anyhow, rant done.
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I am waiting. Reports are that game emulators are slower for some reason with Kitkat and that besides video is a key reason I have this device. Can not be bothered to go through the root process either.
Not seeing the value add verses the risk with a $550 device.
Can anyone verify if it has NFC?
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Indeed it does. With Google rolling out Android pay currently it wouldn't make any sense for them to release their hero phone without it
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Of course it does. They talked about using the fingerprint sensor for Android Pay.
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The real question, for me anyway, is whether or not Android Pay will continue to function after unlocking the bootloader and/or rooting. I remember having to take a pretty convoluted route 3 years ago to get Google Wallet to function properly with the NFC in my Note II by "persuading" Wallet to believe that it was a Nexus.
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The real question, for me anyway, is whether or not Android Pay will continue to function after unlocking the bootloader and/or rooting. I remember having to take a pretty convoluted route 3 years ago to get Google Wallet to function properly with the NFC in my Note II by "persuading" Wallet to believe that it was a Nexus.
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Unfortunately, I don't think it will ever work on a rooted phone, as a Google Engineer has shared here: http://www.xda-developers.com/googl...-with-root-and-android-pay-in-the-xda-forums/
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The real question, for me anyway, is whether or not Android Pay will continue to function after unlocking the bootloader and/or rooting. I remember having to take a pretty convoluted route 3 years ago to get Google Wallet to function properly with the NFC in my Note II by "persuading" Wallet to believe that it was a Nexus.
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It its current state it will not work as it doesn't currently on the nexus 5/6 ect either. I am still using google wallet on mine, but will have to give up nfc payments once i get my 6p.
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The real question, for me anyway, is whether or not Android Pay will continue to function after unlocking the bootloader and/or rooting. I remember having to take a pretty convoluted route 3 years ago to get Google Wallet to function properly with the NFC in my Note II by "persuading" Wallet to believe that it was a Nexus.
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Unlocked bootloader is fine, but a custom ROM fails SafetyNet's CTS build check, and root causes actual transactions to fail. So no, Android Pay or root, pick one, unfortunately.
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Like the title says...seeing that Android Pay is disabled when rooted, what is the future of rooted phones and by extension ROM's?
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Like the title says...seeing that Android Pay is disabled when rooted, what is the future of rooted phones and by extension ROM's?
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Highly doubt developers will stop making ROM's just because of something like Android Pay.
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Highly doubt developers will stop making ROM's just because of something like Android Pay.
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Android pay is novel and CAN make life easier, but it's not a necessity or something 90% of users will be using so I doubt root and custom roms are in any danger or extinction based on just android pay.
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I personally am finding very little reason to root anymore. The only added benefit would be adblocking but I can live with it just for Android Pay. Native tethering works. System UI Tuner settings does most of the things I wanted for GravityBox.
toyanucci said:
Android pay is novel and CAN make life easier, but it's not a necessity or something 90% of users will be using so I doubt root and custom roms are in any danger or extinction based on just android pay.
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I am so curious to know how did you come up with that 90% number...
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I am so curious to know how did you come up with that 90% number...
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Did a personal pole lolol. How many people do YOU know who own an android phone that uses android pay? Also how many places do you know that takes android pay? The percentage is probably higher than 90% actually...
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Does imprint still work if rooted?
Personally i couldn't care less about paying with my phone when my wallet and everything I need to carry is with me regardless. Regardless of that people have gotten android pay working with rooted devices. Root, adblock / do your thing and the unroot. Add your cards and pay as you normally would. Most people don't need root 24/7 so you can have your cake and eat it too.
Don't want to root? Enjoy your ads. Or use one of the proxy services just hope they treat your data well.
Far from it, there will be plenty of XDA N6p roms to go around! Happy Flashing
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Does imprint still work if rooted?
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I'm not sure anyone has root yet, but my device has the bootloader unlocked and imprint still works.
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adamsweeting said:
Does imprint still work if rooted?
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Why are people asking this question? It seems so nonsensical to me...S5 had root and a fingerprint scanner, s6, note 5, tab s etc. Why would root stop a hardware feature like a fingerprint scanner?!
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Like the title says...seeing that Android Pay is disabled when rooted, what is the future of rooted phones and by extension ROM's?
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Root and custom roms are not synonymous. You can have root on the stock rom on your phone and you can have a custom rom without root. For example, I have a custom rom right now without root, as I need to use apps that don't work with root, but I still want features from a custom rom.
toyanucci said:
Why are people asking this question? It seems so nonsensical to me...S5 had root and a fingerprint scanner, s6, note 5, tab s etc. Why would root stop a hardware feature like a fingerprint scanner?!
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Errm - because I haven't owned any of those devices I wasn't "in the know", so I asked the question. Jeez.
There are no custom roms. There is only Chroma.
i doubt it will die however paying with your phone has put a dent in the community as well as made android have more security because of it, plus apps like adguard, and for samsung there are disable apps that don't require root and no ads and app disabling are the only two things some people want.
Won't die. Even more so in countries like mine which refuse to support Android Pay or any other form of mobile credit payment
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luciferiusXI said:
I am so curious to know how did you come up with that 90% number...
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Why do you need it? It's a god damn sham. Google wallet has been there for ages no one complaint and have been rooting phones since it existed.
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God no root is a massive pain.
No ad blocking, going from no ads to all ads between my 6 and 6P even XDA is bad !
Also I like to hide the nav bar to negate the burn in issues of AMOLED, don't care what anyone says these screens WILL burn in its because of the technology.
3. Tweeked stock ROMs with proper reboot options and circle battery and such
Wait for Xposed.
When Xposed is available you can install a cloak and use Pay.
I use pay on my LG G3 with Xposed and root.
Cards need to be added without Xposed installed.
To use Pay you either need to disable root or cloak it.
Not a big deal.
Zimeron said:
Root and custom roms are not synonymous. You can have root on the stock rom on your phone and you can have a custom rom without root. For example, I have a custom rom right now without root, as I need to use apps that don't work with root, but I still want features from a custom rom.
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I didn't know this thought you had to have root to flash custom roms
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It seems that Android Pay has stopped working for anyone who has root as of now. https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/43bl05/newest_safetynet_check_detects_systemless_root/
Pay was working for me last night as it had for weeks. When I heard the rumbles, I checked using safteynet helper and it failed. Just to make sure I tried to pay with it and it failed.
Hopefully this is temporary, but it seems Goggle is being pretty aggressive with patching any issues, so it will be "iffy" at best. At least we don't have to answer anymore, "How can I get Pay to work with my ROM" questions.
Some more info; Being the check is made via an API and is server side, you can't downgrade any app to get it to work. While Chainfire is a deity and I doubt it will take him too long to pop in a fix, Google has an army and cash and if this is important to them, which it is, they will beat him sooner or later. You can un-root and use Pay, then reroot.
For me, while Pay was fun, I've carried a wallet and plastic forever, so it's a no brainer for me, custom rom it is.
Update 1/30/16: If we needed anymore proof; http://www.xda-developers.com/android-pay-no-longer-working-with-systemless-root/
I second that... I love v4a way too much to go back to stock. Android Pay is ...uh "a cute little gimmick" thats it. Most of the relevant places won't even let you use it. I have my RFID wallet and that's safe enough for me. Using AP out in public is just a way to show off and get your phone stolen quicker. Besides I'm not giving Google my fingerprint. So I'll stay on custom ROMs that's why I bought a Nexus, that's why anyone buys a Nexus. If Google is going to start locking down there devices like Apple and Samsung... Then I might as well buy THE best locked down phone out there and thats the iPhone...hands down.
People buy Nexus phones because of the customization possibilities. Let's face it at the end of the day customization is all the Nexus and other phones like it have going for if... That's why I own one.
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I think it's better like this. If you want to use android pay, stay on stock. Android pay shouldn't have worked with root to begin with.
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The Zel said:
I think it's better like this. If you want to use android pay, stay on stock. Android pay shouldn't have worked with root to begin with.
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True I have Nexus 6 and a 6p...I'll just keep one of them stock with Android Pay and the other will be my toy to play around with custom ROMs. Easy to swap out a sim card. Easy fix
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The Zel said:
I think it's better like this. If you want to use android pay, stay on stock. Android pay shouldn't have worked with root to begin with.
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It bothers me admit that I cant do anything and everything I want to an item I bought and own (Legally of course), especially a Nexus. I root, I accept liability, end of story. But we all know how accepting liability means nothing today.
I understand why Google is doing what they are with Pay and security, rooting makes the device less secure according to the banks. I used Wallet a lot, but I'm sure Google had a concern being they were holding the liability on that vs. Pay and the banks.
Pay was convenient for sure, but I always have to have my drivers license with me and I always have some plastic and having a feature rich rom beats Pay any day, I think it's an easy choice.
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True I have Nexus 6 and a 6p...I'll just keep one of them stock with Android Pay and the other will be my toy to play around with custom ROMs. Easy to swap out a sim card. Easy fix
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Damn bro, your gonna carry 2 phones now! It's a lot easier to just throw some plastic in your pocket!
Just more proof we need MultiRom capabilities!
Interesting read, guess I'm going back to standard root. Root is the only way for me to use Verizon wifi hotspot on a unlimited plan.
Given that the authorities can compel fingerprint unlocking, is there a way to quickly disable it so the pass phrase will be required?
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...o-open-your-phone-with-just-your-fingerprint/
Just hold the power button until turns off.
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Just hold the power button until turns off.
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Only if you encrypt and require pin for start up (on some roms anyways)
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Just hold the power button until turns off.
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Thanks for the tip. Takes a few seconds but that works.
I was actually hoping that there was a method so that if I used another finger to try and unlock (e.g. middle finger instead of index finger), it will cause my 6P to require a passcode instead.
OT: why would this be a concern? If a federal judge has reasons to believe that something important pertaining to a certain case could be on your phone, and there's a court order for you to provide your fingerprint, then you provide your fingerprint. Why is it so hard to do so? Keep in mind that providing fingerprints doesn't violate the 5th amendment on self-incrimination, so there's nothing wrong about being requested to do so.
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OT: why would this be a concern? If a federal judge has reasons to believe that something important pertaining to a certain case could be on your phone, and there's a court order for you to provide your fingerprint, then you provide your fingerprint. Why is it so hard to do so? Keep in mind that providing fingerprints doesn't violate the 5th amendment on self-incrimination, so there's nothing wrong about being requested to do so.
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As the Ars article mentioned, they can compel you to provide your fingerprint but not a password so if for whatever reason, you don't want them to unlock your phone, you will want to remove/disable the finger print unlock capability.
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OT: why would this be a concern? If a federal judge has reasons to believe that something important pertaining to a certain case could be on your phone, and there's a court order for you to provide your fingerprint, then you provide your fingerprint. Why is it so hard to do so? Keep in mind that providing fingerprints doesn't violate the 5th amendment on self-incrimination, so there's nothing wrong about being requested to do so.
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What if there's something on your phone you don't want everyone to see. They can stick their amendments where the sun doesn't shine.
Its my phone, my property and about as personal as it gets. No one is looking in my phone for any reason.
If I reboot my phone it requires a password.
However as were all rooted, passwords and keys are quite simply deleted using twrp. So all of this is irrelevant.
I'm sure feds and smart police would know this, unless you've retained encryption and stock behavior.
By all accounts even without root there are other methods, adb, SQL. There are several ways.. The authorities know this, android isn't sandboxed e same way apple is.
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What if there's something on your phone you don't want everyone to see. They can stick their amendments where the sun doesn't shine.
Its my phone, my property and about as personal as it gets. No one is looking in my phone for any reason.
If I reboot my phone it requires a password.
However as were all rooted, passwords and keys are quite simply deleted using twrp. So all of this is irrelevant.
I'm sure feds and smart police would know this, unless you've retained encryption and stock behavior.
By all accounts even without root there are other methods, adb, SQL. There are several ways.. The authorities know this, android isn't sandboxed e same way apple is.
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I see a deep understanding of law just ooze from the above post. If they have a warrant you can take your property and privacy and shove them where the son does not shine. Which will be of little help because they can get to them there.
I do believe that a certain number of fingerprint failures forces a PIN request.
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I see a deep understanding of law just ooze from the above post. If they have a warrant you can take your property and privacy and shove them where the son does not shine. Which will be of little help because they can get to them there.
I do believe that a certain number of fingerprint failures forces a PIN request.
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I see a deep understanding of sarcasm from the above post.
I didn't say they couldn't do it, I just resent being made to do something so if its a choice then I would always choose my privacy, i'm talking about a mobile phone here not the entire contents of my house.
Believe me not everything is on the table for the taking, if it is then that's down to you.
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What if there's something on your phone you don't want everyone to see. They can stick their amendments where the sun doesn't shine.
Its my phone, my property and about as personal as it gets. No one is looking in my phone for any reason.
If I reboot my phone it requires a password.
However as were all rooted, passwords and keys are quite simply deleted using twrp. So all of this is irrelevant.
I'm sure feds and smart police would know this, unless you've retained encryption and stock behavior.
By all accounts even without root there are other methods, adb, SQL. There are several ways.. The authorities know this, android isn't sandboxed e same way apple is.
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I would like to see you use SQL to hack my phone.
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I would like to see you use SQL to hack my phone.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2620456
Do it yourself.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2620456
Do it yourself.
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Only flaw, you need adb access
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2620456
Do it yourself.
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Does that hack still work for Marshmallow on an encrypted phone? Pretty weak security implementation by Google if they haven't closed off those loopholes yet.
DespairFactor said:
Only flaw, you need adb access
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Method 7 doesn't does it?
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Method 7 doesn't does it?
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You need custom recovery, which if you are encrypted, TWRP cannot give access to the device. You also cannot get ADB at that point either to access the storage.
Try not to belittle someone trying to secure their device next time, you do realize that Android is actually more sandboxed than iOS because our OS/Applications runs partially in a VM?
The only thing that makes iOS more secure is the fact that is runs a BSD base and is coded in native languages, not some mainline diverged Linux
DespairFactor said:
You need custom recovery, which if you are encrypted, TWRP cannot give access to the device. You also cannot get ADB at that point either to access the storage.
Try not to belittle someone trying to secure their device next time, you do realize that Android is actually more sandboxed than iOS because our OS/Applications runs partially in a VM?
The only thing that makes iOS more secure is the fact that is runs a BSD base and is coded in native languages, not some mainline diverged Linux
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I haven't belittled anyone. No more than you just did to me anyway.
Either way, I'm not fussed. I've had my say.
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dladz said:
I haven't belittled anyone. No more than you just did to me anyway.
Either way, I'm not fussed. I've had my say.
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You attempted to discredit the entire purpose of the OP, stating that it was all useless prior to doing any research of your own.
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You attempted to discredit the entire purpose of the OP, stating that it was all useless prior to doing any research of your own.
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Ok seeing that this is XDAand it's a Nexus, I'd assume that the OP is rooted, meaing it's entirely possible for it to be removed, the OP doesn't state if it's a rooted device or not, being a Nexus, there is more chance than not that it is.
So my point stands, I don't want to get into a debate with you about this, so stand down from your moral high ground and either give an answer to the OP or don't.
I don't want to continue discussing this with you at all, so can we leave it there please.
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Ok seeing that this is XDAand it's a Nexus, I'd assume that the OP is rooted, meaing it's entirely possible for it to be removed, the OP doesn't state if it's a rooted device or not, being a Nexus, there is more chance than not that it is.
So my point stands, I don't want to get into a debate with you about this, so stand down from your moral high ground and either give an answer to the OP or don't.
I don't want to continue discussing this with you at all, so can we leave it there please.
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My answer is, this sounds like a useful feature, it would have to be looked into for sure, but will need to be implemented as either an xposed module/rom feature or a root app. The fact that he is rooted enables more options of doing the requested task. There are no security issues with this due to encryption since the key is needed to decrypt the storage in TWRP. ADB is not accessible via fastboot, which also helps us ensure the device is locked down.
Also, OP if you are worried about security perhaps follow copperheados for information on when the Angler release is. You can find more info about it here: https://copperhead.co/
Hi,
Yes, my 6P is rooted and running stock. I also left it encrypted since I don't mind the performance degradation. I also have the boot password option enabled (bootloader has been left unlocked though).
I did disable USB debugging thanks to this thread and will only enable when needed.
I read on another forum that you can enable password locking by using a 3rd party launcher like Nova. Just set a gesture like double-tap to lock and it will require the password before it unlocks. So I might try using Nova instead of the stock launcher. This way I can quickly lock if needed without disabling finger print unlocking altogether. (That's assuming that there's no other hack that can be used to bypass the password requirement on an encrypted 6P. )
Thanks for the info!