I'm a little confused as to why so many people are waiting instead of updating to the available 4.4.2. People been clamoring for the update and it's finally available and everyone is asking if they should update or shouldn't?
The Knox issue I can understand, but I've rooted all my devices the day I get them from the HTC nexus one days. I didnt even boot into my Note 10.1 2014 stock, out the box I installed twrp and rooted. The benefits of root far outweigh potential issues and the guides are fool proof. Re warranty, I've seen no reports of Samsung turning anyone back because of Knox. Case in point so many of the refurbished ones sold recently were received with Knox tripped, it's not that big a deal, besides, especially for those in America, most stores offer 30 day returns no questions asked so it's neither here nor there.
The fact is, the update is available now, it makes the tablet so much more of a joy to use and has so many improvements that I just don't get this whole "should I wait? When will the OTA come to my country" thing. Anyhow, I guess to each his own, but the reality is some of you waiting potentially may not even live long enough for the update you're waiting on lol. Live in the now guys!
Also, so many are complaining about the exclusion of Magazine UX, though almost everyone on here says the first thing they do is install Nova or some other launcher, so why is it an issue for them? It's just odd...
Anyhow, rant done.
Lol.
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I'd love to update, but I've kept it stock since launch. I have many notes for school on papyrus that I would like to keep, but I understand that data wipe is recommended. Any way around this?
Id love to root and use a few xposed mods to make it more like the pro series.
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thachosenone said:
I'd love to update, but I've kept it stock since launch. I have many notes for school on papyrus that I would like to keep, but I understand that data wipe is recommended. Any way around this?
Id love to root and use a few xposed mods to make it more like the pro series.
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If you just want Papyrus notes backup, it looks like their cloud services premium feature will do it if you don't mind the $3 in app purchase. If you are looking for a more comprehensive option, there are several ways to backup your data. Through a little Googling, I found this guide to backing up using adb without root. Or you can go ahead and root before updating, and then use something like Titanium Backup to back up your data and then restore. This is just from a cursory look for options, look around, read into different things and see which approach fits your needs.
KNOX doesn't bother me as regards losing warranty. It has stopped me from rooting for the first time ever for fear of resale consequences. I just know that if I sell it on eBay with knox tripped and I do disclose it in my description people will be asking for a lower price whereas if I don't mention it the buyer will be contacting me a week later moaning that I didn't tell him I'd tripped knox. A real potential headache that I can't be bothered with so samsung have finally succeeded in stopping me rooting my device one way or another.
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thachosenone said:
I'd love to update, but I've kept it stock since launch. I have many notes for school on papyrus that I would like to keep, but I understand that data wipe is recommended. Any way around this?
Id love to root and use a few xposed mods to make it more like the pro series.
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If you pay for papyrus you can backup to Dropbox. Also, updating with Odin you won't lose any information. I didn't wipe before updating and I have no issues whatsoever.
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A couple of reasons...
The N10.1-14 is a productivity/creation device; at least Samsung's marketing that way. Some people do actually connect to secure networks and more and more are reading the KNOX chip for authentication. I personally use KNOX and three of the five secure networks I connect to are KNOX enabled.
The question of warranty support on devices with tripped KNOX flags is kind of grey. Not everyone wants to personally test Samsung's warranty policies.
Rooted devices can't use AllShare Cast, have DRM issues with certain apps, can't play DRM content acquired from Samsung Hub, and can't receive OTA updates. Xposed can overcome some of that but not everyone wants a "Franken-phone."
Regional ROMs have very different feature sets. A personal example. Someone here was raving about the performance improvements of the new P601 ROM for Guatemala so I tried it. They failed to mention it was a carrier ROM (Claro), all the stock app icons were replaced with crappy looking "Claro" interpretations, 500MB of non-removable demo games were installed, and Samsung Hub no longer supported anything but books. When I flashed back to the Trinidad ROM the Guatemala ROM either overlaid or removed a file causing an indexing FC loop. I had to completely wipe and rebuild my tablet to get back to where I started in the first place. My tablets are typically from Trinidad which serves the Caribbean and parts of Central and South America and have most of the North American features enabled. I never use Asian ROMs, Eastern European ROMs, Latin American ROMs (other than Brazil) or any carrier ROM from anywhere. Both because of what's missing and what's needlessly included.
None of this matters to people who bought their N10.1-14 as a piece of h/w but does to those of us that use and value its features. Probably 1/3 here actually appreciate the stock features, 1/3 hate TW and Samsung's proprietary apps, and the other 1/3 are somewhere in between. To each their own.
As an add on, there is no risk in trying the update. There is no Knox trip and once our Ota arrives just use Odin to flash that on top. Either way you don't risk anything and you get to enjoy kitkat. Seriously there is no reason anyone on this forum should not be trying this amazing update.
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I use the wifi+3g version of the note 10.1(2014). I am not going to risk updating until someone else does it and shows me screenshots of the update not ****ing up their device in anyway. Till then,fingers are tightly crossed!
dustfinger314 said:
If you just want Papyrus notes backup, it looks like their cloud services premium feature will do it if you don't mind the $3 in app purchase. If you are looking for a more comprehensive option, there are several ways to backup your data. Through a little Googling, I found this guide to backing up using adb without root. Or you can go ahead and root before updating, and then use something like Titanium Backup to back up your data and then restore. This is just from a cursory look for options, look around, read into different things and see which approach fits your needs.
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I get an error trying to purchase the in app backup option. I'm in the usa
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As an add on, there is no risk in trying the update. There is no Knox trip and once our Ota arrives just use Odin to flash that on top. Either way you don't risk anything and you get to enjoy kitkat. Seriously there is no reason anyone on this forum should not be trying this amazing update.
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Isn't there a risk I may have to do a factory reset if I'm having issues after the flash? I really couldn't be bothered setting everything up and getting all the data I have back on it.
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Isn't there a risk I may have to do a factory reset if I'm having issues after the flash? I really couldn't be bothered setting everything up and getting all the data I have back on it.
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That's the same risk you take updating to any new software. It's the same recommendation whether it be an official update or a custom ROM. So no there is no elevated risk.
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pierrekid said:
That's the same risk you take updating to any new software. It's the same recommendation whether it be an official update or a custom ROM. So no there is no elevated risk.
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And this is one of the positives of root...a nandroid backup! Before any update I do a nandroid backup in twrp so should anything go wrong, I just restore and it comes back exactly as it was when baked up.
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Exactly. With an official update you don't even have that option
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That's the same risk you take updating to any new software. It's the same recommendation whether it be an official update or a custom ROM. So no there is no elevated risk.
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Stop it! You've almost got me convinced!
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Exactly. With an official update you don't even have that option
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If there is risk in bricking my tablet from an official firmware, will it still void my warranty by updating?
Is there a root method yet? I would like to use xposed mods to make this a pro line tablet.
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Is there a root method yet? I would like to use xposed mods to make this a pro line tablet.
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Root has been available since October.
Just want to clarify. You guys are talking about the KK update on P600 right?
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Stop it! You've almost got me convinced!
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I know it sucks :/ I've always rooted and ran custom roms on my devices going back to my S1 and HTC desire. I don't fear the potential warranty issues myself, its just the resale of it is going to be 10x more difficult FYI I've never held on to a device for more than 2 years.
toyanucci said:
I'm a little confused as to why so many people are waiting instead of updating to the available 4.4.2. People been clamoring for the update and it's finally available and everyone is asking if they should update or shouldn't?
The Knox issue I can understand, but I've rooted all my devices the day I get them from the HTC nexus one days. I didnt even boot into my Note 10.1 2014 stock, out the box I installed twrp and rooted. The benefits of root far outweigh potential issues and the guides are fool proof. Re warranty, I've seen no reports of Samsung turning anyone back because of Knox. Case in point so many of the refurbished ones sold recently were received with Knox tripped, it's not that big a deal, besides, especially for those in America, most stores offer 30 day returns no questions asked so it's neither here nor there.
The fact is, the update is available now, it makes the tablet so much more of a joy to use and has so many improvements that I just don't get this whole "should I wait? When will the OTA come to my country" thing. Anyhow, I guess to each his own, but the reality is some of you waiting potentially may not even live long enough for the update you're waiting on lol. Live in the now guys!
Also, so many are complaining about the exclusion of Magazine UX, though almost everyone on here says the first thing they do is install Nova or some other launcher, so why is it an issue for them? It's just odd...
Anyhow, rant done.
Lol.
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I am waiting. Reports are that game emulators are slower for some reason with Kitkat and that besides video is a key reason I have this device. Can not be bothered to go through the root process either.
Not seeing the value add verses the risk with a $550 device.
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I'm no computer whiz so what are the advantages of rooting this phone as it seems plenty fast as is.
Well, with rooting, it's pretty much like being the Admin of your computer. So for starters, you have control over many more phone functions, especially when it comes to something like tethering. There are more apps and themes and ROMs available for you to use, which will cut down on battery usage, give you a better looking set of themes, and allow you to overclock not only your processor but also your GPU.
It's definitely something that isn't terribly essential, but it does make the phone more.....yours, so to speak.
Looks like I'm rooting and is there a way to unroot in case you need to send it back to Sprint so restoring to factory settings.
Yea you can flash back to stock and they'll never even know you had it rooted or had a custom rom
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Yup, unrooting is easy. Here's one such app that allows you to temporarily unroot or unroot completely: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper&hl=en
There's several other apps like this and a lot of guides on how to do it.
3 main reasons why I root all my devices:
1. Add app data backup (mainly games) to my new device
2. Tether
3. Flash custom roms
Root.
As previously stated, more performance, battery gains, and free tethering are only a few of the advantages....
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Curious about the bootloader and S-OFF unlocking possibilities on each carrier... Anyone know any info?
it is necessary
you can be the admin of your phone. you control it , not the phone control you.
Besides all the reasons some folks have mentioned, I also root to use ad-blockers..
So I do not have to put up with ads is some apps.
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Curious about the bootloader and S-OFF unlocking possibilities on each carrier... Anyone know any info?
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Samsung devices doesn't have "S OFF". It's only htc devices. Bootloader maybe locked, depending on your carrier
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Well I want root asap on mine, going to have to uninstall all those S-lag apps Samsung added. Ones no one really needs and jsut slow the phone down. S heath and S Apps etc
The main reasons I'm going to root ASAP are because I want to enable an ad-blocker, wifi tether, restore some apps and disable some of the bloatware on the AT&T model. I'm going to try and stick with the stock ROM at least for a couple months. I've been using AOKP for a good 6 months on the GS3, it will be a nice change to go back to Touchwiz for a bit. (hopefully)
I will also be rooting mine as soon as I get it, so that I can restore everything from my s3 to it. I won't worry about custom roms for this phone for a while, although I'm sure that thread will explode in a few weeks.
I think I am leaving this one stocks for once. At least for a little while
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root because there will be massive amounts of mods available. i know because i'll be working on quite a few
cheers!
I'm starting to think I'll get my 9500 this week and there won't be root for it. If I can't restore with Ti then it will sit in the box for a bit.
Sarcron said:
Yup, unrooting is easy. Here's one such app that allows you to temporarily unroot or unroot completely: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper&hl=en
There's several other apps like this and a lot of guides on how to do it.
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Must be rooted in order to use OTA RootKeeper from Play!
This application makes a backup or a protected backup of your device's root.
This device must already be rooted: OTA RootKeeper doesn't have the ability to root devices.
Link to thread from Chainfire about getting i9505 root
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AmesCell said:
I'm starting to think I'll get my 9500 this week and there won't be root for it. If I can't restore with Ti then it will sit in the box for a bit.
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"sit in the box for a bit" ... like 2-3 minutes :laugh:
Mine may as well be shipped prerooted. I'm going to make sure my 'life companion' will really be my life companion lol.
I have decided to root if nothing else so I can tether. I also like to change the boot animation and shutdown animation. Looks like I'll be doing a lot of learning from you XDA guys.
I realize Chat On can easily be downloaded from the playstore, n it's not a huge deal but I was just surprised to not see it pre-installed on a Samsung device. Especially since it was used in the demo so much. I assume this is because Verizon wants u using their message service (keep dreaming verizon), but still none the less surprising to me.
Now onto Knox. Although it's not something I know for sure that I would use, it is also an app that was being promoted very hard as a great new feature. Well where is it first of all? Am I missing something? Like I said Idk if I would wanna use it anyway;but it would sure be nice to have the option to give it a try and decide for myself if it's something I want. Again Verizon, keep dreaming! I don't think any of us want your security services or your messaging app or your navigation! So yes I'm aware I can easily add chat on, but can anyone help with any info on getting Knox app on my phone? I don't think I'll be rooting this phone, for now anyway, so I would like to try Knox just to see what it's about. Any help/info is appreciated guys, thanks.
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I realize Chat On can easily be downloaded from the playstore, n it's not a huge deal but I was just surprised to not see it pre-installed on a Samsung device. Especially since it was used in the demo so much. I assume this is because Verizon wants u using their message service (keep dreaming verizon), but still none the less surprising to me.
Now onto Knox. Although it's not something I know for sure that I would use, it is also an app that was being promoted very hard as a great new feature. Well where is it first of all? Am I missing something? Like I said Idk if I would wanna use it anyway;but it would sure be nice to have the option to give it a try and decide for myself if it's something I want. Again Verizon, keep dreaming! I don't think any of us want your security services or your messaging app or your navigation! So yes I'm aware I can easily add chat on, but can anyone help with any info on getting Knox app on my phone? I don't think I'll be rooting this phone, for now anyway, so I would like to try Knox just to see what it's about. Any help/info is appreciated guys, thanks.
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Sir Knox is already on the phone. It is not an app you can go into. but if you check the services running it is running from all i have read and understand.
You can do a search on your phone and see Knox apps all over the place.. Like 9 diff pieces to it... Thier is a thread on on the parts of it on this forum already
Actually I just found the actual truth about Knox and the Verizon N3, here it is. Yes there is Knox stuff under application manager, and yes Knox is under device administrator's, and actually Yes Knox is an app that can be opened, but NO Knox is NOT currently on the Verizon phone! Screen shots below.
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I have a Galaxy note 3, bought in October last year. I am at odds over where to root it or not as the Samsung ROMS aren't awful and Rooting does void the warranty, what are people experiences with this in general ?
Depending on what you want to do. As casual user I'd say you don't have to have an rooted device. If you're power user tho I'd recommend it
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Ryven said:
Depending on what you want to do. As casual user I'd say you don't have to have an rooted device. If you're power user tho I'd recommend it
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Wondering more as I have a rooted Huawei P6 which is great but having 1 rooted device is it really worth rooting a £600 phone ? Suppose it makes more sense to do it out of warrant. May wait until the Note 4 comes out and then root my Note 3.
Probably well if you have an rooted device you know the features. For me the power is enough I like the phone it is. The only few things I want root access for is adblock and special app administrative tools. If you're good to go without them I don't see a reason to take the risk
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I haven't rooted as i haven't needed to. However I am still on android 4.3. Haven't upgraded to android 4.4 kitkat as I hate the way they have restricted sd card access. Question is now that it is possible to root 4.4.2 and keep knox 0.0 should I upgrade to 4.4.2 and then root so I can fix the sd card. Is 4.4.2 worth it?
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Barneyabz said:
I haven't rooted as i haven't needed to. However I am still on android 4.3. Haven't upgraded to android 4.4 kitkat as I hate the way they have restricted sd card access. Question is now that it is possible to root 4.4.2 and keep knox 0.0 should I upgrade to 4.4.2 and then root so I can fix the sd card. Is 4.4.2 with it?
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This is exactly what i am wondering as well. Im on stock 4.3 and i have seen how 4.4 affected the ext sd
Now i thinking how to do and should i do
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Millan85 said:
I have a Galaxy note 3, bought in October last year. I am at odds over where to root it or not as the Samsung ROMS aren't awful and Rooting does void the warranty, what are people experiences with this in general ?
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Like others have said, it depends on what you want to do. Me personally, cant live with out a rooted device. I have so many tweaks that make my life easier and improve overall performance.
Simple things like adding call recording to stock phone app.
Adding call button directly in call logs.
Expanded volume panel.
Removing the crap Samsung clipboard with its security loop hole.
Removing all bloatware.
Just stuff like that. But if your a user that doesn't really care about tweaks, that sure; its probably better not to root and risk the trouble of bricking.
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I have a Galaxy note 3, bought in October last year. I am at odds over where to root it or not as the Samsung ROMS aren't awful and Rooting does void the warranty, what are people experiences with this in general ?
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If you're unfortunate to live in one of the biggest phone markets in the world and yet be lied to by Samsung by releasing a 16GB version of Note 3, then yes, rooting is a definite go.
Now I can save/move games and all the other apps that take plenty of space, my phone can breathe a lot easier.
Also, does Samsung truly believe users who have been using their phone daily months on end that they require all these stupid pop-ups telling you "If you turn on airplane mode, you will won't be able to access network blah blah" or "Turning this too loud will damage hearing".
The first few times, yes I understand it's a pre-warning, but everytime? I'm so thankful that mods like the Xposed Framework with Wanam's Xposed has allowed me to customise my phone to how I want it and to add/remove features that Samsung decided to choose for us because they think it benefits the users, when really, it does the opposite.
Yes
You are so rite we as the end user should have the choice not Sammy lol
I am the same i rooted because i was sick of paying hundreds of dollars to "OWN"
a phone and not to be able to do what i like to it
Now i am rooted i have control over what i bought and i love it ............:good::highfive::laugh:
Imo, it is worth it. Even if you only do it for xposed it's worth it.
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Millan85 said:
I have a Galaxy note 3, bought in October last year. I am at odds over where to root it or not as the Samsung ROMS aren't awful and Rooting does void the warranty, what are people experiences with this in general ?
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If you have to ask yourself or anyone else this question the answer is NO. always NO.
Will the Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Retail see root by March 1, 2015? Wanted to see what you guys think in a poll.
There are threads where this should go.
There are people messing around with getting root, but nothing real serious. Unfortunately, the Verizon retail Note 4 isn't likely to ever get root, certainly not by March. No chance.
There's a radio button for that
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Will the Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Retail see root by March 1, 2015? Wanted to see what you guys think in a poll.
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I'm mobile, can't see the poll. I'd say between lollipop possibilities and recently discussed exploits, 60% chance.
Are there android phones in the past or current that has never seen root access?
The only thing I use root for is Titanium Backup so I can freeze bloatware. That is about it, but I have enough memory and quite frankly the stock works very well for me.
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They are crackin' pretty hard at it over on the AT&T side. If they find a way, it should work for us. Here's hoping. This thing runs great but these dangforblasted white screens are driving me insane. Time-line? Who knows. The sooner the better.
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They are crackin' pretty hard at it over on the AT&T side. If they find a way, it should work for us. Here's hoping. This thing runs great but these dangforblasted white screens are driving me insane. Time-line? Who knows. The sooner the better.
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This was actually my motivation for starting this thread. It seems like it's heating up a bit over there and I was wondering if that had changed anyone's opinion from the first "Root Poll" thread started a while ago. I'm certainly more optimistic after seeing all of the activity. On the other hand history does seem to shoe that the big advances seem to come from people who have been silently waiting in the wings.
Yea it has been a while since I put up that root poll. It's since died out which is understandable.
My point of view is (and yes I voted) lol
I don't believe well see root in this device! I fear that this is the way it's going to be for most new devices rolling out from here on out. Unless you purchase a dev edition.
To me. The phone runs very well! Use the blocking script and u can free up some ram. Otherwise the only things Im missing the most is cleaning up the notification bar and TiBu. Otherwise I'm happy!
Course this is just my opinion.
Carry on
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Yea it has been a while since I put up that root poll. It's since died out which is understandable.
My point of view is (and yes I voted) lol
I don't believe well see root in this device! I fear that this is the way it's going to be for most new devices rolling out from here on out. Unless you purchase a dev edition.
To me. The phone runs very well! Use the blocking script and u can free up some ram. Otherwise the only things Im missing the most is cleaning up the notification bar and TiBu. Otherwise I'm happy!
Course this is just my opinion.
Carry on
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Color Status Bar gives you full control over the notification panel without root. Helium retains a lot of TiBu functionality without root.
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Once I can find a way to spoof GPS without having "Allow Mock Location" I won't be obsessed with this phone getting root. I love the phone regardless.
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Not gonna happen
Not going to happen. Saving for iPhone 6 plus were jailbreak works no matter what carrier. Maybe the m8. Does the m8 have root on verizon even? It's going to take me a while to save 800 bucks, maybe we will get lucky. Stock would not be bad, but suckwiz is killing me.
I've been optimistic for those on the note 4 verizon version, unfortunatley the sad truth is, its either going to never come to note 4 or will be almost a year till root is achieved. I'm going to be staying with my note 3 for a long time. Possibly forever, until note edge/edge 2 note 5 gets root and custom recovery. Just my opinion, I'm cheering you guys on, it's hard without dev support. Once the dev support get's tripled than might have a better chance. But till then, your gonna have to wait it out. Best of luck and I'm rooting for your guys
I am not optimistic. I suppose it is the DE edition for the N5 or off to another manufacturer whose phone can be rooted.
Can't really put the blame on the manufacturer. I understand that tmobile variant of the Note 4 can be rooted. It's a carrier thing. Maybe Samsung just has a more secure method. But it's only there because Verizon wants it there.
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Once I can find a way to spoof GPS without having "Allow Mock Location" I won't be obsessed with this phone getting root. I love the phone regardless.
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why do you need to spoof GPS? you play Ingress? if you do, it's against tos
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The only thing I use root for is Titanium Backup so I can freeze bloatware. That is about it, but I have enough memory and quite frankly the stock works very well for me.
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You wouldn't like to be able to write to sdcard using any method of your choice?
Nope. MLB at Bat app. If I want to watch my home team I can't be in the tv/radio "broadcast territory" of either of the teams playing. On my previous phone I used "FakeGPS". Apk has to be copied to "/system/priv-app" in order to work with "Allow Mock Locations" turned off... MLB at Bat app knows if Allow Mock is turned on.
And maybe it was PEBKAC but I'm pretty sure I tried renaming a picture on my SD Card and was denied. Insanity.
Usually when i get a new phone the girst thing i do is root, but since i got my s7 edge on contract with Vodafone i havent and was wondering whats the pros and cons of rooting it. The main reason id like to root is to get some of the note 7 apps working
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i second this, i've had a rooted note3 but i recently got a S7 edge and i'm wondering if i should root it.
usually i root for Youtube Adblock, Youtube background and snapprefs.
Well, in my case that was a no brainer.
Rooting allows you to:
1) Debloat the stock ROM
2) Try different ROMs bringing useful modules/features
3) Use different kernels allowing more performance, more battery life, enabling features, tweaking governors, frequencies, etc.
4) Getting the newest updates instantly. No more rollout waiting, crappy carriers holding the update, etc.
5) Possibility to install Xposed and use very useful modules
6) Using ROMs/Apps that weren't made for the S7/Edge initially
7) The community often takes care of issues/bugs withing a few days/weeks that sometimes take Samsung months to fix
Downside:
-You trip Knox. It can cause problems with the warranty
-Say bye-bye to Samsung Pay. (Not a big problem in my case, as Samsung Pay is unavailable where I live)
-Using Android Pay requires using a different root method than Chainfire's SuperSU
-Some apps will refuse to run when root is detected (Snapchat for example. Not a big loss as far as I'm concerned) without using specific tweaks/fixes
-You can **** up your phone if you don't know what you're doing, how to restore the stock ROM (Odin), etc. Documentation exists for newbies
you should so much better!
I live in Australia and samsung pay doesn't work with my bank, neither does android pay. I have to use my banks default app
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Phazonclash said:
Well, in my case that was a no brainer.
Downside:
-You trip Knox. It can cause problems with the warranty
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Is there any hope atm that a new root method that doesn't trip knox will ever be available? I'm aching to root mine too, but I'm a bit scared about losing your warranty
When i had my note 4 it was rooted and on contract, one day it overheated and the screen didnt turn on. I took it to my vodafone shop for repairs expecting to have to pay but they sent me a new phone. Maybe i just got lucky. But i guess its easier for them to check if ur phones rooted now by just checking samsung pay to see if it works
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sandman997 said:
When i had my note 4 it was rooted and on contract, one day it overheated and the screen didnt turn on. I took it to my vodafone shop for repairs expecting to have to pay but they sent me a new phone. Maybe i just got lucky. But i guess its easier for them to check if ur phones rooted now by just checking samsung pay to see if it works
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Well that's the thing. It seems a bit like a lottery now. For some it was no issue, for other it certainly was, maybe depending on the country too
The whole reason i want to root is to get the note 7 apps and maybe later a note 7 rom, but im not sure if its worth it for a few apps
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sandman997 said:
The whole reason i want to root is to get the note 7 apps and maybe later a note 7 rom, but im not sure if its worth it for a few apps
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To be honest, I rolled back yesterday from a Note 7 ROM to the stock S7 ROM (Efficient). The N7 port ROMS are great, look beautiful and they can be used as a daily driver at this point, but they still have little issues that are annoying.
In my case, battery life isn't as good as what I get with Efficient ROM (based on the stock firmware)
If you have a Samsuns camera sensor, every modes now work, but the pictures look very faded, the colors look weird
I'll probably reinstall a N7 port ROM envetually, but I'll wait... still too many stuff not working as it should
I rooted my Samsung Galaxys since the Galaxy S1 but with the S7 I still haven't. I use Package Disabler Pro (works without root) to stop everything bloatish and stuff I don't use and battery life is pretty amazing (not sure if it could get any better with root). Some stuff would be nice to have (center clock + date in Statusbar for example), which only a custom ROM would offer and also adblocker really would be useful. The overall performance of the S7 Edge is great, even unrooted. Performance usually was, what a was bugging me the most, that's why I rooted, debloated, flashed kernels etc. Not really feel to do so this time.
I basically just wanted to install the grace ux launcher, the messaging app from note 7 and smart manager from note 7 but im thinking its not worth going to the trouble.
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Shoubyy said:
i second this, i've had a rooted note3 but i recently got a S7 edge and i'm wondering if i should root it.
usually i root for Youtube Adblock, Youtube background and snapprefs.
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Yes you should. Xposed modules are pretty interesting.
greenify, amplify, Xtouchwiz
sandman997 said:
I basically just wanted to install the grace ux launcher, the messaging app from note 7 and smart manager from note 7 but im thinking its not worth going to the trouble.
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Why don't you just buy the Note 7?
Well i just got the S7 edge on a contract last year so i have a year left on my contract and in Australia the Note 7 is around $1200 so thats too expensive
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Anyone else have a Australian s7 edge with root, what files did u use
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Phazonclash said:
Well, in my case that was a no brainer.
Rooting allows you to:
1) Debloat the stock ROM
2) Try different ROMs bringing useful modules/features
3) Use different kernels allowing more performance, more battery life, enabling features, tweaking governors, frequencies, etc.
4) Getting the newest updates instantly. No more rollout waiting, crappy carriers holding the update, etc.
5) Possibility to install Xposed and use very useful modules
6) Using ROMs/Apps that weren't made for the S7/Edge initially
7) The community often takes care of issues/bugs withing a few days/weeks that sometimes take Samsung months to fix
Downside:
-You trip Knox. It can cause problems with the warranty
-Say bye-bye to Samsung Pay. (Not a big problem in my case, as Samsung Pay is unavailable where I live)
-Using Android Pay requires using a different root method than Chainfire's SuperSU
-Some apps will refuse to run when root is detected (Snapchat for example. Not a big loss as far as I'm concerned) without using specific tweaks/fixes
-You can **** up your phone if you don't know what you're doing, how to restore the stock ROM (Odin), etc. Documentation exists for newbies
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How is Samsung Pay unavailable where you live? It works with nearly all places that you can swipe a credit card lol
LiquidPlacidity said:
How is Samsung Pay unavailable where you live? It works with nearly all places that you can swipe a credit card lol
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I guess we're important enough Can't blame them, Canada isn't that populous
Its available but the banks here in Australia dont want to sign up to samsung pay because they all have separate apps
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I use to root all the selfphones that i own so root is the only way for me.