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Should i root my phone already.?

Well i am not a noob.I have used nexus s for year rooted it and enjoyed various launchers and roms.
But this one is my precious phone just bought one month back.
Two minds about rooting.Wanna try out Touchwiz 5.What say guyz shall i root?
(i wanna stay purestock by the way)
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Yes, I can't see see any disadvantage to rooting. It will allow you to do much more with your phone, more customization, more apps will work, etc. You should also look into custom kernels, they can help increase battery life a lot.

jadeisjaded said:
Yes, I can't see see any disadvantage to rooting. It will allow you to do much more with your phone, more customization, more apps will work, etc. You should also look into custom kernels, they can help increase battery life a lot.
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Can i successfully return to an UNROOTed STOCK thing in case of any problem??

Yes you can unroot and return to stock easily, especially if you use something like Nexus Root Toolkit, which has a button that just does that automatically.

Ok can i use franco kernel along with stock rom? i prefer having a pure google experience
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Nezam said:
Ok can i use franco kernel along with stock rom? i prefer having a pure google experience
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Sure you can.
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TobiS87 said:
Sure you can.
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I am using the nexus toolkit.It goes till the Booting modified bootloader... but goes on Waiting for Device..
and my stock bootloader says "locked state:locked" but i am using a GSM carier in India and i can change my connection with
a change of sim card!
Please guide.

I just unrooted my last rooted device a few days ago. I just don't use root anymore anyway. But, I unlocked all bootloaders on all my devices just in case I would need to root again in the future.
For me, rooting lost its appeal with 4.1. I not against rooting, but I do really think it's now more an hobbyist thing than before. So, it's a personal choice / preference.

SalsaForte said:
I just unrooted my last rooted device a few days ago. I just don't use root anymore anyway. But, I unlocked all bootloaders on all my devices just in case I would need to root again in the future.
For me, rooting lost its appeal with 4.1. I not against rooting, but I do really think it's now more an hobbyist thing than before. So, it's a personal choice / preference.
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Using custom ROMS and simply staying stock is another talk..
we can keep stock and even then root.Doing so we can use certain apps or services which require rooting to either flash into it or make a
update zip.
I am keeping myself stock until i really really need to go to some

Nezam said:
Using custom ROMS and simply staying stock is another talk..
we can keep stock and even then root.Doing so we can use certain apps or services which require rooting to either flash into it or make a
update zip.
I am keeping myself stock until i really really need to go to some
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I've had my phone for two days and that's probably the longest I've gone without rooting a phone lol. The main reason I do it is for TB. I like to restore all my apps. I also am spoiled at this point. I had Illusion on my S3 and the customization if unbelievable. I loved all features on it So i'm looking at putting a custom ROM and kernel on mine today.

Indian9990 said:
I've had my phone for two days and that's probably the longest I've gone without rooting a phone lol. The main reason I do it is for TB. I like to restore all my apps. I also am spoiled at this point. I had Illusion on my S3 and the customization if unbelievable. I loved all features on it So i'm looking at putting a custom ROM and kernel on mine today.
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Haha same here. Got phone in the mail Thursday and got it rooted by Friday evening. Only reason it took so long was I got the phone for my daughter and I let her take it to school Friday morning.
My GS4 went from the store to home, open the box, rooted and flashed custom ROM. Total time from store to finish about 30 minutes.:good:

Waiting instead of updating?!

I'm a little confused as to why so many people are waiting instead of updating to the available 4.4.2. People been clamoring for the update and it's finally available and everyone is asking if they should update or shouldn't?
The Knox issue I can understand, but I've rooted all my devices the day I get them from the HTC nexus one days. I didnt even boot into my Note 10.1 2014 stock, out the box I installed twrp and rooted. The benefits of root far outweigh potential issues and the guides are fool proof. Re warranty, I've seen no reports of Samsung turning anyone back because of Knox. Case in point so many of the refurbished ones sold recently were received with Knox tripped, it's not that big a deal, besides, especially for those in America, most stores offer 30 day returns no questions asked so it's neither here nor there.
The fact is, the update is available now, it makes the tablet so much more of a joy to use and has so many improvements that I just don't get this whole "should I wait? When will the OTA come to my country" thing. Anyhow, I guess to each his own, but the reality is some of you waiting potentially may not even live long enough for the update you're waiting on lol. Live in the now guys!
Also, so many are complaining about the exclusion of Magazine UX, though almost everyone on here says the first thing they do is install Nova or some other launcher, so why is it an issue for them? It's just odd...
Anyhow, rant done.
Lol.
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I'd love to update, but I've kept it stock since launch. I have many notes for school on papyrus that I would like to keep, but I understand that data wipe is recommended. Any way around this?
Id love to root and use a few xposed mods to make it more like the pro series.
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thachosenone said:
I'd love to update, but I've kept it stock since launch. I have many notes for school on papyrus that I would like to keep, but I understand that data wipe is recommended. Any way around this?
Id love to root and use a few xposed mods to make it more like the pro series.
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If you just want Papyrus notes backup, it looks like their cloud services premium feature will do it if you don't mind the $3 in app purchase. If you are looking for a more comprehensive option, there are several ways to backup your data. Through a little Googling, I found this guide to backing up using adb without root. Or you can go ahead and root before updating, and then use something like Titanium Backup to back up your data and then restore. This is just from a cursory look for options, look around, read into different things and see which approach fits your needs.

KNOX doesn't bother me as regards losing warranty. It has stopped me from rooting for the first time ever for fear of resale consequences. I just know that if I sell it on eBay with knox tripped and I do disclose it in my description people will be asking for a lower price whereas if I don't mention it the buyer will be contacting me a week later moaning that I didn't tell him I'd tripped knox. A real potential headache that I can't be bothered with so samsung have finally succeeded in stopping me rooting my device one way or another.
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thachosenone said:
I'd love to update, but I've kept it stock since launch. I have many notes for school on papyrus that I would like to keep, but I understand that data wipe is recommended. Any way around this?
Id love to root and use a few xposed mods to make it more like the pro series.
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If you pay for papyrus you can backup to Dropbox. Also, updating with Odin you won't lose any information. I didn't wipe before updating and I have no issues whatsoever.
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A couple of reasons...
The N10.1-14 is a productivity/creation device; at least Samsung's marketing that way. Some people do actually connect to secure networks and more and more are reading the KNOX chip for authentication. I personally use KNOX and three of the five secure networks I connect to are KNOX enabled.
The question of warranty support on devices with tripped KNOX flags is kind of grey. Not everyone wants to personally test Samsung's warranty policies.
Rooted devices can't use AllShare Cast, have DRM issues with certain apps, can't play DRM content acquired from Samsung Hub, and can't receive OTA updates. Xposed can overcome some of that but not everyone wants a "Franken-phone."
Regional ROMs have very different feature sets. A personal example. Someone here was raving about the performance improvements of the new P601 ROM for Guatemala so I tried it. They failed to mention it was a carrier ROM (Claro), all the stock app icons were replaced with crappy looking "Claro" interpretations, 500MB of non-removable demo games were installed, and Samsung Hub no longer supported anything but books. When I flashed back to the Trinidad ROM the Guatemala ROM either overlaid or removed a file causing an indexing FC loop. I had to completely wipe and rebuild my tablet to get back to where I started in the first place. My tablets are typically from Trinidad which serves the Caribbean and parts of Central and South America and have most of the North American features enabled. I never use Asian ROMs, Eastern European ROMs, Latin American ROMs (other than Brazil) or any carrier ROM from anywhere. Both because of what's missing and what's needlessly included.
None of this matters to people who bought their N10.1-14 as a piece of h/w but does to those of us that use and value its features. Probably 1/3 here actually appreciate the stock features, 1/3 hate TW and Samsung's proprietary apps, and the other 1/3 are somewhere in between. To each their own.

As an add on, there is no risk in trying the update. There is no Knox trip and once our Ota arrives just use Odin to flash that on top. Either way you don't risk anything and you get to enjoy kitkat. Seriously there is no reason anyone on this forum should not be trying this amazing update.
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SM P601
I use the wifi+3g version of the note 10.1(2014). I am not going to risk updating until someone else does it and shows me screenshots of the update not ****ing up their device in anyway. Till then,fingers are tightly crossed!

dustfinger314 said:
If you just want Papyrus notes backup, it looks like their cloud services premium feature will do it if you don't mind the $3 in app purchase. If you are looking for a more comprehensive option, there are several ways to backup your data. Through a little Googling, I found this guide to backing up using adb without root. Or you can go ahead and root before updating, and then use something like Titanium Backup to back up your data and then restore. This is just from a cursory look for options, look around, read into different things and see which approach fits your needs.
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I get an error trying to purchase the in app backup option. I'm in the usa
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pierrekid said:
As an add on, there is no risk in trying the update. There is no Knox trip and once our Ota arrives just use Odin to flash that on top. Either way you don't risk anything and you get to enjoy kitkat. Seriously there is no reason anyone on this forum should not be trying this amazing update.
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Isn't there a risk I may have to do a factory reset if I'm having issues after the flash? I really couldn't be bothered setting everything up and getting all the data I have back on it.
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poplectic said:
Isn't there a risk I may have to do a factory reset if I'm having issues after the flash? I really couldn't be bothered setting everything up and getting all the data I have back on it.
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That's the same risk you take updating to any new software. It's the same recommendation whether it be an official update or a custom ROM. So no there is no elevated risk.
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pierrekid said:
That's the same risk you take updating to any new software. It's the same recommendation whether it be an official update or a custom ROM. So no there is no elevated risk.
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And this is one of the positives of root...a nandroid backup! Before any update I do a nandroid backup in twrp so should anything go wrong, I just restore and it comes back exactly as it was when baked up.
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Exactly. With an official update you don't even have that option
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pierrekid said:
That's the same risk you take updating to any new software. It's the same recommendation whether it be an official update or a custom ROM. So no there is no elevated risk.
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Stop it! You've almost got me convinced!
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pierrekid said:
Exactly. With an official update you don't even have that option
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If there is risk in bricking my tablet from an official firmware, will it still void my warranty by updating?

Is there a root method yet? I would like to use xposed mods to make this a pro line tablet.
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thachosenone said:
Is there a root method yet? I would like to use xposed mods to make this a pro line tablet.
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Root has been available since October.

Just want to clarify. You guys are talking about the KK update on P600 right?

poplectic said:
Stop it! You've almost got me convinced!
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I know it sucks :/ I've always rooted and ran custom roms on my devices going back to my S1 and HTC desire. I don't fear the potential warranty issues myself, its just the resale of it is going to be 10x more difficult FYI I've never held on to a device for more than 2 years.

toyanucci said:
I'm a little confused as to why so many people are waiting instead of updating to the available 4.4.2. People been clamoring for the update and it's finally available and everyone is asking if they should update or shouldn't?
The Knox issue I can understand, but I've rooted all my devices the day I get them from the HTC nexus one days. I didnt even boot into my Note 10.1 2014 stock, out the box I installed twrp and rooted. The benefits of root far outweigh potential issues and the guides are fool proof. Re warranty, I've seen no reports of Samsung turning anyone back because of Knox. Case in point so many of the refurbished ones sold recently were received with Knox tripped, it's not that big a deal, besides, especially for those in America, most stores offer 30 day returns no questions asked so it's neither here nor there.
The fact is, the update is available now, it makes the tablet so much more of a joy to use and has so many improvements that I just don't get this whole "should I wait? When will the OTA come to my country" thing. Anyhow, I guess to each his own, but the reality is some of you waiting potentially may not even live long enough for the update you're waiting on lol. Live in the now guys!
Also, so many are complaining about the exclusion of Magazine UX, though almost everyone on here says the first thing they do is install Nova or some other launcher, so why is it an issue for them? It's just odd...
Anyhow, rant done.
Lol.
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I am waiting. Reports are that game emulators are slower for some reason with Kitkat and that besides video is a key reason I have this device. Can not be bothered to go through the root process either.
Not seeing the value add verses the risk with a $550 device.

Root by March 1. Over/Under Poll

Will the Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Retail see root by March 1, 2015? Wanted to see what you guys think in a poll.

There are threads where this should go.
There are people messing around with getting root, but nothing real serious. Unfortunately, the Verizon retail Note 4 isn't likely to ever get root, certainly not by March. No chance.

There's a radio button for that

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Will the Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Retail see root by March 1, 2015? Wanted to see what you guys think in a poll.
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I'm mobile, can't see the poll. I'd say between lollipop possibilities and recently discussed exploits, 60% chance.

Are there android phones in the past or current that has never seen root access?

The only thing I use root for is Titanium Backup so I can freeze bloatware. That is about it, but I have enough memory and quite frankly the stock works very well for me.
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They are crackin' pretty hard at it over on the AT&T side. If they find a way, it should work for us. Here's hoping. This thing runs great but these dangforblasted white screens are driving me insane. Time-line? Who knows. The sooner the better.

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They are crackin' pretty hard at it over on the AT&T side. If they find a way, it should work for us. Here's hoping. This thing runs great but these dangforblasted white screens are driving me insane. Time-line? Who knows. The sooner the better.
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This was actually my motivation for starting this thread. It seems like it's heating up a bit over there and I was wondering if that had changed anyone's opinion from the first "Root Poll" thread started a while ago. I'm certainly more optimistic after seeing all of the activity. On the other hand history does seem to shoe that the big advances seem to come from people who have been silently waiting in the wings.

Yea it has been a while since I put up that root poll. It's since died out which is understandable.
My point of view is (and yes I voted) lol
I don't believe well see root in this device! I fear that this is the way it's going to be for most new devices rolling out from here on out. Unless you purchase a dev edition.
To me. The phone runs very well! Use the blocking script and u can free up some ram. Otherwise the only things Im missing the most is cleaning up the notification bar and TiBu. Otherwise I'm happy!
Course this is just my opinion.
Carry on

freddy0872 said:
Yea it has been a while since I put up that root poll. It's since died out which is understandable.
My point of view is (and yes I voted) lol
I don't believe well see root in this device! I fear that this is the way it's going to be for most new devices rolling out from here on out. Unless you purchase a dev edition.
To me. The phone runs very well! Use the blocking script and u can free up some ram. Otherwise the only things Im missing the most is cleaning up the notification bar and TiBu. Otherwise I'm happy!
Course this is just my opinion.
Carry on
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Color Status Bar gives you full control over the notification panel without root. Helium retains a lot of TiBu functionality without root.
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Once I can find a way to spoof GPS without having "Allow Mock Location" I won't be obsessed with this phone getting root. I love the phone regardless.
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jpfulton248 said:
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Not gonna happen

Not going to happen. Saving for iPhone 6 plus were jailbreak works no matter what carrier. Maybe the m8. Does the m8 have root on verizon even? It's going to take me a while to save 800 bucks, maybe we will get lucky. Stock would not be bad, but suckwiz is killing me.

I've been optimistic for those on the note 4 verizon version, unfortunatley the sad truth is, its either going to never come to note 4 or will be almost a year till root is achieved. I'm going to be staying with my note 3 for a long time. Possibly forever, until note edge/edge 2 note 5 gets root and custom recovery. Just my opinion, I'm cheering you guys on, it's hard without dev support. Once the dev support get's tripled than might have a better chance. But till then, your gonna have to wait it out. Best of luck and I'm rooting for your guys

I am not optimistic. I suppose it is the DE edition for the N5 or off to another manufacturer whose phone can be rooted.

Can't really put the blame on the manufacturer. I understand that tmobile variant of the Note 4 can be rooted. It's a carrier thing. Maybe Samsung just has a more secure method. But it's only there because Verizon wants it there.
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jpfulton248 said:
Once I can find a way to spoof GPS without having "Allow Mock Location" I won't be obsessed with this phone getting root. I love the phone regardless.
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why do you need to spoof GPS? you play Ingress? if you do, it's against tos

outcasted2003 said:
The only thing I use root for is Titanium Backup so I can freeze bloatware. That is about it, but I have enough memory and quite frankly the stock works very well for me.
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You wouldn't like to be able to write to sdcard using any method of your choice?

Nope. MLB at Bat app. If I want to watch my home team I can't be in the tv/radio "broadcast territory" of either of the teams playing. On my previous phone I used "FakeGPS". Apk has to be copied to "/system/priv-app" in order to work with "Allow Mock Locations" turned off... MLB at Bat app knows if Allow Mock is turned on.

And maybe it was PEBKAC but I'm pretty sure I tried renaming a picture on my SD Card and was denied. Insanity.

Are Root& ROM's dead?

Like the title says...seeing that Android Pay is disabled when rooted, what is the future of rooted phones and by extension ROM's?

sluflyer06 said:
Like the title says...seeing that Android Pay is disabled when rooted, what is the future of rooted phones and by extension ROM's?
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Highly doubt developers will stop making ROM's just because of something like Android Pay.

stevew84 said:
Highly doubt developers will stop making ROM's just because of something like Android Pay.
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Android pay is novel and CAN make life easier, but it's not a necessity or something 90% of users will be using so I doubt root and custom roms are in any danger or extinction based on just android pay.
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I personally am finding very little reason to root anymore. The only added benefit would be adblocking but I can live with it just for Android Pay. Native tethering works. System UI Tuner settings does most of the things I wanted for GravityBox.

toyanucci said:
Android pay is novel and CAN make life easier, but it's not a necessity or something 90% of users will be using so I doubt root and custom roms are in any danger or extinction based on just android pay.
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I am so curious to know how did you come up with that 90% number...

luciferiusXI said:
I am so curious to know how did you come up with that 90% number...
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Did a personal pole lolol. How many people do YOU know who own an android phone that uses android pay? Also how many places do you know that takes android pay? The percentage is probably higher than 90% actually...
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Does imprint still work if rooted?

Personally i couldn't care less about paying with my phone when my wallet and everything I need to carry is with me regardless. Regardless of that people have gotten android pay working with rooted devices. Root, adblock / do your thing and the unroot. Add your cards and pay as you normally would. Most people don't need root 24/7 so you can have your cake and eat it too.
Don't want to root? Enjoy your ads. Or use one of the proxy services just hope they treat your data well.

Far from it, there will be plenty of XDA N6p roms to go around! Happy Flashing

adamsweeting said:
Does imprint still work if rooted?
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I'm not sure anyone has root yet, but my device has the bootloader unlocked and imprint still works.
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adamsweeting said:
Does imprint still work if rooted?
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Why are people asking this question? It seems so nonsensical to me...S5 had root and a fingerprint scanner, s6, note 5, tab s etc. Why would root stop a hardware feature like a fingerprint scanner?!
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sluflyer06 said:
Like the title says...seeing that Android Pay is disabled when rooted, what is the future of rooted phones and by extension ROM's?
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Root and custom roms are not synonymous. You can have root on the stock rom on your phone and you can have a custom rom without root. For example, I have a custom rom right now without root, as I need to use apps that don't work with root, but I still want features from a custom rom.

toyanucci said:
Why are people asking this question? It seems so nonsensical to me...S5 had root and a fingerprint scanner, s6, note 5, tab s etc. Why would root stop a hardware feature like a fingerprint scanner?!
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Errm - because I haven't owned any of those devices I wasn't "in the know", so I asked the question. Jeez.

There are no custom roms. There is only Chroma.

i doubt it will die however paying with your phone has put a dent in the community as well as made android have more security because of it, plus apps like adguard, and for samsung there are disable apps that don't require root and no ads and app disabling are the only two things some people want.

Won't die. Even more so in countries like mine which refuse to support Android Pay or any other form of mobile credit payment
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luciferiusXI said:
I am so curious to know how did you come up with that 90% number...
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Why do you need it? It's a god damn sham. Google wallet has been there for ages no one complaint and have been rooting phones since it existed.
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God no root is a massive pain.
No ad blocking, going from no ads to all ads between my 6 and 6P even XDA is bad !
Also I like to hide the nav bar to negate the burn in issues of AMOLED, don't care what anyone says these screens WILL burn in its because of the technology.
3. Tweeked stock ROMs with proper reboot options and circle battery and such

Wait for Xposed.
When Xposed is available you can install a cloak and use Pay.
I use pay on my LG G3 with Xposed and root.
Cards need to be added without Xposed installed.
To use Pay you either need to disable root or cloak it.
Not a big deal.

Zimeron said:
Root and custom roms are not synonymous. You can have root on the stock rom on your phone and you can have a custom rom without root. For example, I have a custom rom right now without root, as I need to use apps that don't work with root, but I still want features from a custom rom.
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I didn't know this thought you had to have root to flash custom roms
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Should I Root my S7 Edge?

Usually when i get a new phone the girst thing i do is root, but since i got my s7 edge on contract with Vodafone i havent and was wondering whats the pros and cons of rooting it. The main reason id like to root is to get some of the note 7 apps working
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i second this, i've had a rooted note3 but i recently got a S7 edge and i'm wondering if i should root it.
usually i root for Youtube Adblock, Youtube background and snapprefs.

Well, in my case that was a no brainer.
Rooting allows you to:
1) Debloat the stock ROM
2) Try different ROMs bringing useful modules/features
3) Use different kernels allowing more performance, more battery life, enabling features, tweaking governors, frequencies, etc.
4) Getting the newest updates instantly. No more rollout waiting, crappy carriers holding the update, etc.
5) Possibility to install Xposed and use very useful modules
6) Using ROMs/Apps that weren't made for the S7/Edge initially
7) The community often takes care of issues/bugs withing a few days/weeks that sometimes take Samsung months to fix
Downside:
-You trip Knox. It can cause problems with the warranty
-Say bye-bye to Samsung Pay. (Not a big problem in my case, as Samsung Pay is unavailable where I live)
-Using Android Pay requires using a different root method than Chainfire's SuperSU
-Some apps will refuse to run when root is detected (Snapchat for example. Not a big loss as far as I'm concerned) without using specific tweaks/fixes
-You can **** up your phone if you don't know what you're doing, how to restore the stock ROM (Odin), etc. Documentation exists for newbies

you should so much better!

I live in Australia and samsung pay doesn't work with my bank, neither does android pay. I have to use my banks default app
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Phazonclash said:
Well, in my case that was a no brainer.
Downside:
-You trip Knox. It can cause problems with the warranty
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Is there any hope atm that a new root method that doesn't trip knox will ever be available? I'm aching to root mine too, but I'm a bit scared about losing your warranty

When i had my note 4 it was rooted and on contract, one day it overheated and the screen didnt turn on. I took it to my vodafone shop for repairs expecting to have to pay but they sent me a new phone. Maybe i just got lucky. But i guess its easier for them to check if ur phones rooted now by just checking samsung pay to see if it works
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sandman997 said:
When i had my note 4 it was rooted and on contract, one day it overheated and the screen didnt turn on. I took it to my vodafone shop for repairs expecting to have to pay but they sent me a new phone. Maybe i just got lucky. But i guess its easier for them to check if ur phones rooted now by just checking samsung pay to see if it works
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Well that's the thing. It seems a bit like a lottery now. For some it was no issue, for other it certainly was, maybe depending on the country too

The whole reason i want to root is to get the note 7 apps and maybe later a note 7 rom, but im not sure if its worth it for a few apps
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sandman997 said:
The whole reason i want to root is to get the note 7 apps and maybe later a note 7 rom, but im not sure if its worth it for a few apps
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To be honest, I rolled back yesterday from a Note 7 ROM to the stock S7 ROM (Efficient). The N7 port ROMS are great, look beautiful and they can be used as a daily driver at this point, but they still have little issues that are annoying.
In my case, battery life isn't as good as what I get with Efficient ROM (based on the stock firmware)
If you have a Samsuns camera sensor, every modes now work, but the pictures look very faded, the colors look weird
I'll probably reinstall a N7 port ROM envetually, but I'll wait... still too many stuff not working as it should

I rooted my Samsung Galaxys since the Galaxy S1 but with the S7 I still haven't. I use Package Disabler Pro (works without root) to stop everything bloatish and stuff I don't use and battery life is pretty amazing (not sure if it could get any better with root). Some stuff would be nice to have (center clock + date in Statusbar for example), which only a custom ROM would offer and also adblocker really would be useful. The overall performance of the S7 Edge is great, even unrooted. Performance usually was, what a was bugging me the most, that's why I rooted, debloated, flashed kernels etc. Not really feel to do so this time.

I basically just wanted to install the grace ux launcher, the messaging app from note 7 and smart manager from note 7 but im thinking its not worth going to the trouble.
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Shoubyy said:
i second this, i've had a rooted note3 but i recently got a S7 edge and i'm wondering if i should root it.
usually i root for Youtube Adblock, Youtube background and snapprefs.
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Yes you should. Xposed modules are pretty interesting.
greenify, amplify, Xtouchwiz

sandman997 said:
I basically just wanted to install the grace ux launcher, the messaging app from note 7 and smart manager from note 7 but im thinking its not worth going to the trouble.
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Why don't you just buy the Note 7?

Well i just got the S7 edge on a contract last year so i have a year left on my contract and in Australia the Note 7 is around $1200 so thats too expensive
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Anyone else have a Australian s7 edge with root, what files did u use
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Phazonclash said:
Well, in my case that was a no brainer.
Rooting allows you to:
1) Debloat the stock ROM
2) Try different ROMs bringing useful modules/features
3) Use different kernels allowing more performance, more battery life, enabling features, tweaking governors, frequencies, etc.
4) Getting the newest updates instantly. No more rollout waiting, crappy carriers holding the update, etc.
5) Possibility to install Xposed and use very useful modules
6) Using ROMs/Apps that weren't made for the S7/Edge initially
7) The community often takes care of issues/bugs withing a few days/weeks that sometimes take Samsung months to fix
Downside:
-You trip Knox. It can cause problems with the warranty
-Say bye-bye to Samsung Pay. (Not a big problem in my case, as Samsung Pay is unavailable where I live)
-Using Android Pay requires using a different root method than Chainfire's SuperSU
-Some apps will refuse to run when root is detected (Snapchat for example. Not a big loss as far as I'm concerned) without using specific tweaks/fixes
-You can **** up your phone if you don't know what you're doing, how to restore the stock ROM (Odin), etc. Documentation exists for newbies
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How is Samsung Pay unavailable where you live? It works with nearly all places that you can swipe a credit card lol

LiquidPlacidity said:
How is Samsung Pay unavailable where you live? It works with nearly all places that you can swipe a credit card lol
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I guess we're important enough Can't blame them, Canada isn't that populous

Its available but the banks here in Australia dont want to sign up to samsung pay because they all have separate apps
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I use to root all the selfphones that i own so root is the only way for me.