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Hi,
I have a I9505 which I have flashed with Google edition 4.3.
If I use the stock Google edition camera I get really bad results, lots of blurred photos. Today I was experimenting with Focal from CM10.2 and I was getting radically improved results.
I've attached some examples of text, but I get it with everything, no matter what the situation. Taking a shot in bright sunny conditions still gives me the same results.
I examined the EXIF data and shots taken with Stock & Focal are using exactly the same settings, ISO, Exposure, etc. I tried holding still for long after the shutter press to see if that helped, it didn't.
Here is a link to hi-res versions https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0xw0tgh8c695994/YmAC0tHpoH
I came from a Xperia Z which had the S4 GE camera app flashed on it, but I was pretty careful not to import this when I transitioned from a Titanium Backup. Even if I had copied it across, it should be exactly the same?
Any thoughts? or suggestions?
Steve
The blur feature looks like that the jpeg compress too much, rather than higher ISO.
I've installed Gapps on my Samsung tw ROM. so I have both Samsung camera app and Google gallery with google's camera app.
Compare the photo taken by the two camera app. the photo of stock samsung camera is really large in size. can be 4~6MB. almost 10 times size than photo taken by of Google camera app (about 400K-800K). 1300M pixels img compree to such a small size, of course google edition camera is blured.
jiant.li said:
The blur feature looks like that the jpeg compress too much, rather than higher ISO.
I've installed Gapps on my Samsung tw ROM. so I have both Samsung camera app and Google gallery with google's camera app.
Compare the photo taken by the two camera app. the photo of stock samsung camera is really large in size. can be 4~6MB. almost 10 times size than photo taken by of Google camera app (about 400K-800K). 1300M pixels img compree to such a small size, of course google edition camera is blured.
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Hi,
Thanks for getting back to me.
The dropbox link gives you hi-res versions, the attached images are just cropped versions. Both the Stock Google App and Focal App are taking identical images:
Pixel Height: 3,096
Pixel Width: 4,128
And the EXIF data is also identical, with (very) slight variance in the brightness value.
I didn't know you could run the Samsung camera! Coming from the Xperia Z, the camera and skin are tied together. Any ideas where I might find the Samsung stock camera?
jiant.li said:
The blur feature looks like that the jpeg compress too much, rather than higher ISO.
I've installed Gapps on my Samsung tw ROM. so I have both Samsung camera app and Google gallery with google's camera app.
Compare the photo taken by the two camera app. the photo of stock samsung camera is really large in size. can be 4~6MB. almost 10 times size than photo taken by of Google camera app (about 400K-800K). 1300M pixels img compree to such a small size, of course google edition camera is blured.
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Sorry didn't read that properly! You are running the Google camera on stock ROM.
Rassilon7 said:
Sorry didn't read that properly! You are running the Google camera on stock ROM.
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It's alol right. My English is quite poor. I'm Chinese. I know my posts might be hard to read. I'm practise on it. .:laugh:
I've seen the orginal files in dropbox, they are the same size.
My google edition camera app have the same problem,
I don't know why, but I guess it might be the unrobust noise reduction algorithm in google app, which may cause the image blur.
jiant.li said:
It's alol right. My English is quite poor. I'm Chinese. I know my posts might be hard to read. I'm practise on it. .:laugh:
I've seen the orginal files in dropbox, they are the same size.
My google edition camera app have the same problem,
I don't know why, but I guess it might be the unrobust noise reduction algorithm in google app, which may cause the image blur.
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Seems very odd that Google would release such a bad camera app... makes me think that I have broken it some how...
I'm "Pseudo Chinese" Westerner living in Macau for 5 years
i think many of you z1c users have experienced the problem of bluring in a image especially taking photos of landscapes and sceneries .. in which details matter the most.. A 20.7 MP camera is expected to fulfil the need of clarity and detail to some extent when it comes to these photos.. The problem with Sony's official camera app is that it blurs some parts of the photo and give us a somewhat blurred image.. This however can be solved using a third party camera app... I have used two of them (camera fx and procapture) both giving better result than sony's official camera app.. I dont know whether z2 camera app has solved this or not but for now a third party app is my best bet to get the most out of the the camera!! Will post more camparitive photos in the coming days..
I have also noticed this blurring. I tried camera zoom fx, but for whatever reason I can't stand the UI. So I have been using Camera Fv-5, it is an improvement, however I will be trying more.
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Did somebody try the new Z2 Cam App? Its available for all xperia devices.
Probably there are some improvements.
Didnt tried it because of the libraries were not available for timeshift and 4k video.. Many people are working on it on Z1 forum.. Hopefully will see it soon.. And more importantly.. I hope this blurring effect is solved..
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Did somebody try the new Z2 Cam App? Its available for all xperia devices.
Probably there are some improvements.
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I did try, but the camera module looks exactly the same. Could be something with the libs, but it doesn't really matter. The pics are still blurred.
Can someone post examples with stock and third party app? I don't see the bluring in my pics.
I went to a retail store, and z1's photo have more details than the compact.
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hash054 said:
i think many of you z1c users have experienced the problem of bluring in a image especially taking photos of landscapes and sceneries .. in which details matter the most.. A 20.7 MP camera is expected to fulfil the need of clarity and detail to some extent when it comes to these photos.. The problem with Sony's official camera app is that it blurs some parts of the photo and give us a somewhat blurred image.. This however can be solved using a third party camera app... I have used two of them (camera fx and procapture) both giving better result than sony's official camera app.. I dont know whether z2 camera app has solved this or not but for now a third party app is my best bet to get the most out of the the camera!! Will post more camparitive photos in the coming days..
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In different app, but equal setting:
ZX1C focus/defocus
In my opinion the stock kamera app doesn't right focus setting.
Camera FV 5
After the recommendation of many Camera FV 5 users.. I gave it a shot.. and I was not disappointed.. The customization and the result stand out from all the other apps.. focus is pretty damn good and no more blury pictures.. and no details ignored.. only day time test left.. night samples are better than I expected!
Is there anyway to change which camera app opens from the lockscreen. I want FV5 to launch from the lockscreen not sony's app. I'm running stock KK.
VSCO Camera is pretty good. I am also wondering from the post above if there is a way to change the default camera on the lock screen.
Snap camera is one of my favourite.
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you should post more various pics (8MP/20MP) from other apps, gives a better idea. the first post pic isn't exactly clear in either shot
stringy2010 said:
I have also noticed this blurring. I tried camera zoom fx, but for whatever reason I can't stand the UI. So I have been using Camera Fv-5, it is an improvement, however I will be trying more.
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Try to play with iso settings tray iso 50 or 100 for 20.7 image
Hi all,
besides some blur on certain conditions(low light) what I most regret of this 20mpx camera on the Z1Compact is that all pictures looks like washed out, like without proper contrast or white balance is incorrect.
I have tried in Manual Mode with ISO 50, 100, 200, also moving the exposure control on the screen, white balance in automatic and also 'sun' or 'light bulb', most of the shots don't have vivid colors.
I come from Samsung Galaxy SII, then I had S4, then a Note 3 ... (then I realized that big phones are not comfortable to carry in the pocket all day and switched to Z1Compact), all Samsung phones had different colors on taken pictures, more vivid.
Any advise on how to take better pictures with Z1Compact?
Thanks.
sinple said:
I went to a retail store, and z1's photo have more details than the compact.
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Having owned both, the Z1 *looks* like the photos are better because the screen has higher resolution (1080p), but in reality when you load photos onto a computer, the Z1C is distinctly better.
Also when I changed my back case from plastic to glass (which also replaces the glass over the camera lens) I noticed a small improvement in sharpness, particularly in the corners.
awojtas said:
Also when I changed my back case from plastic to glass (which also replaces the glass over the camera lens) I noticed a small improvement in sharpness, particularly in the corners.
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Hi,
where did buy the back cover replacement? Can you share a link or PM me the link if you're not allowed to post it in the forum?
Thanks.
I have 'Snap' running on CM12 and I'm initially very impressed.........opens up the 20 meg Cyber-shot camera ability nicely.
RAW file access would be nice so we could then import to a hardcore editor on a PC....and I'm sure that wouldn't be too difficult to sort out with an update.....but for a few pennies it's way way better than the google camera app that comes with CM12.
Have you tried using the Camera2 API in snap? I cant tell if it makes a difference or not...
In .242 fw doesn't work the Camera2 API...
took some shots with each camera from random things in and around my house in case anyone wants to draw a conclusion of the google cam vs stock cam
moto x cam
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my conclusions, both cameras are inconsistent, but, both possess the power to at least sometimes take a good shot
thanks for this. the Moto X cam isn't that bad. really hoping L brings consistency in the camera department
I have them both installed. I hadn't even thought about differing image quality, but I really like just being able to tap the screen to take a picture in the moto x camera, and the burst mode, and I also love the photosphere and panorama from the google camera. The Moto X camera software has panorama too, but the implimention of actually taking the panorama is so much superior in the google camera app.
Judging from what I see the camera sucks. Noise...noise everywhere!! The bikes are sweet, the first one could be a sweet cafe racer and the second one looks like a cool dirt track bike.
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Judging from what I see the camera sucks. Noise...noise everywhere!! The bikes are sweet, the first one could be a sweet cafe racer and the second one looks like a cool dirt track bike.
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Yes, lots of noise. The first bike is a cafe project I'm building with my oldest son. The second little bike was a bike my younger sons built for a custom bike contest. This one is my project that I've been building over the past year
ProCapture is amazing. This app truly shows that its a software issue and not hardware. The low light/ indoor photos (using their Noise Reduction option) displayed photos 10x better than stock or google
Is there a way to set Google cam as the default to use with wrist twist motion
Mister Moore said:
ProCapture is amazing. This app truly shows that its a software issue and not hardware. The low light/ indoor photos (using their Noise Reduction option) displayed photos 10x better than stock or google
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Do you mind showing some examples?
krobin350 said:
Is there a way to set Google cam as the default to use with wrist twist motion
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I don't believe so, could be wrong however.
krobin350 said:
Is there a way to set Google cam as the default to use with wrist twist motion
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No. The twist feature is tied in with the Motorola Camera
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It's kind off nice to see the google camera do better in some cases, which would mean there still is some hope for more optimizations of the camera
it's just so inconsistent no matter what camera you use. one shot will look great, the next will look like an oil painting. i've also tried procam, vignette, zoom fx, and all cameras have the same result.
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Is there a way to set Google cam as the default to use with wrist twist motion
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With Root and Xposed and the "Twisty Switch" module you can use Google Camera (or any app for that matter) with the twist gesture.
leffer said:
With Root and Xposed and the "Twisty Switch" module you can use Google Camera (or any app for that matter) with the twist gesture.
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and the vzw/att crowd hangs their head in shame...
leffer said:
With Root and Xposed and the "Twisty Switch" module you can use Google Camera (or any app for that matter) with the twist gesture.
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It still works? I thought the first post said something that it's not in development and may not work? If it works, then I may give it a try
Edit: the bugs that are there made me not want to use it...
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One thing I have noticed using the google camera app and using the front camera it is very laggy. The back camera it works just fine but the front camera and google don't get along for some reason.
djwyman said:
One thing I have noticed using the google camera app and using the front camera it is very laggy. The back camera it works just fine but the front camera and google don't get along for some reason.
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I believe any camera app you use the front camera will be laggy. hopefully Lollipop fixes this
Glad I found this thread!
I'd like to see some shots using HDR mode on both cams. Google Camera has a pretty amazing HDR+ mode on Nexus, but I guess this will not be active on the Moto X, right?
In my Galaxy S4 GPE the HDR feature in Google Camera takes impressively good pictures...
I'm currently trying to decide between the oversized Nexus6, the Moto X or maybe something completely different. Camera is one of the deciding factors...
Thanks!
Here's my comparison between the Stock X (2014) camera and Google Camera.
https://plus.google.com/109547535739901455455/posts/es5bnENnaz3
Looking at zoomed in sections, the stock camera does quite a bit of over-sharpening, and Google Camera seems to do a better job of capturing detail and better exposure.
I'm really excited to see what 5.0 brings us camera-wise in the coming month.
In my case i prefer the nexus 5 camera. Just the ois is a good feature.
I still use different camera app to understand what is the better one.
I'm sure is only a software problem and Android Lollipop can resolve this.
Why are people complaining about noise? If you're worried about iso noise, take photos with a real camera.
The touch to take a photo is frustrating as hell when i'm used to tap-to-focus on targets rather than it immediately take a pic.
I've tried fiddling around but still no joy. Anyone know of a secret-squirrel setting someplace to turn that crap off?
m2geek said:
The touch to take a photo is frustrating as hell when i'm used to tap-to-focus on targets rather than it immediately take a pic.
I've tried fiddling around but still no joy. Anyone know of a secret-squirrel setting someplace to turn that crap off?
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I had the same problem with my moto g. An easy fix is to get the google camera app, which is very similar to the stock camera app, but it has tap to focus.
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I had the same problem with my moto g. An easy fix is to get the google camera app, which is very similar to the stock camera app, but it has tap to focus.
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But no slomo or 4k, I hope with the release of the 6p they will add those features to the google camera app, I hate switching between camera apps.
mabru2001 said:
But no slomo or 4k, I hope with the release of the 6p they will add those features to the google camera app, I hate switching between camera apps.
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I guess you could just use the stock app when you need to film slow-mo or 4K? Alternatively, you could look around for other camera apps on the forums or on the play store; I found one called open camera, not the nicest looking interface but looks pretty functional...
Edit: I've heard that the moto x style doesn't support the camera api which is a bit of a bummer...
I've used Open Camera previously, may have to give it a go. Google Camera is ok but it is a bit Basic?
I wonder if the Oppo camera app will work >.>
I think many people do not know that you can use the volume up/down buttons to snap a photo. Then it feels very much like a traditional point and shoot camera when you hold it. I literally just found this out today. I really wish Moto included that tidbit in their initial tutorial animations.
This might help http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=63117312
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JoeNeckbone said:
This might help http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=63117312
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I installed this Xposed module on the stock rom and changed almost all the options in it and also installed Camera 360 and Camera FV 5 Pro (I changed the extension from .jpeg to .png in FV5).
Now I'm not sure if this app it's really better or is just a impression because I can't see any difference between the stock image quality (and Google Camera) and the Camera FV5, I can see just the difference in the image size.
Attached sample images - https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B9AGQuLtWUjVUS1lbkF1MTh5MlE&usp=sharing
Camera 360 ≈ 3,6 - 3,8MB
Camera FV5 ≈ 20 - 22MB
Google Camera ≈ 5,0 - 6,0MB
Stock Camera ≈ 5,5 - 6,0MB
Obs.: HDR turned ON in all cameras
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Both the regular camera and Google camera apps suck for panorama on my phone. What are people using to get good ones? My old S5 had great panoramas.
I've been getting pretty great (by my standards) panoramas with the Google Camera. What, in particular, do you not like about the results?
stock camera has horrible resolution for panorama. google camera is higher. panorama on this phone sucks compared to the note 4...then again the camera in general does too, but panorama is just awful software by moto.
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