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stock camera vs google camera comparison

took some shots with each camera from random things in and around my house in case anyone wants to draw a conclusion of the google cam vs stock cam
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my conclusions, both cameras are inconsistent, but, both possess the power to at least sometimes take a good shot

thanks for this. the Moto X cam isn't that bad. really hoping L brings consistency in the camera department

I have them both installed. I hadn't even thought about differing image quality, but I really like just being able to tap the screen to take a picture in the moto x camera, and the burst mode, and I also love the photosphere and panorama from the google camera. The Moto X camera software has panorama too, but the implimention of actually taking the panorama is so much superior in the google camera app.

Judging from what I see the camera sucks. Noise...noise everywhere!! The bikes are sweet, the first one could be a sweet cafe racer and the second one looks like a cool dirt track bike.

^Deadly_Sin^ said:
Judging from what I see the camera sucks. Noise...noise everywhere!! The bikes are sweet, the first one could be a sweet cafe racer and the second one looks like a cool dirt track bike.
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Yes, lots of noise. The first bike is a cafe project I'm building with my oldest son. The second little bike was a bike my younger sons built for a custom bike contest. This one is my project that I've been building over the past year

ProCapture is amazing. This app truly shows that its a software issue and not hardware. The low light/ indoor photos (using their Noise Reduction option) displayed photos 10x better than stock or google

Is there a way to set Google cam as the default to use with wrist twist motion

Mister Moore said:
ProCapture is amazing. This app truly shows that its a software issue and not hardware. The low light/ indoor photos (using their Noise Reduction option) displayed photos 10x better than stock or google
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Do you mind showing some examples?
krobin350 said:
Is there a way to set Google cam as the default to use with wrist twist motion
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I don't believe so, could be wrong however.

krobin350 said:
Is there a way to set Google cam as the default to use with wrist twist motion
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No. The twist feature is tied in with the Motorola Camera
sent from my Moto X (2014)

It's kind off nice to see the google camera do better in some cases, which would mean there still is some hope for more optimizations of the camera

it's just so inconsistent no matter what camera you use. one shot will look great, the next will look like an oil painting. i've also tried procam, vignette, zoom fx, and all cameras have the same result.

krobin350 said:
Is there a way to set Google cam as the default to use with wrist twist motion
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With Root and Xposed and the "Twisty Switch" module you can use Google Camera (or any app for that matter) with the twist gesture.

leffer said:
With Root and Xposed and the "Twisty Switch" module you can use Google Camera (or any app for that matter) with the twist gesture.
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and the vzw/att crowd hangs their head in shame...

leffer said:
With Root and Xposed and the "Twisty Switch" module you can use Google Camera (or any app for that matter) with the twist gesture.
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It still works? I thought the first post said something that it's not in development and may not work? If it works, then I may give it a try
Edit: the bugs that are there made me not want to use it...
sent from my Moto X (2014)

One thing I have noticed using the google camera app and using the front camera it is very laggy. The back camera it works just fine but the front camera and google don't get along for some reason.

djwyman said:
One thing I have noticed using the google camera app and using the front camera it is very laggy. The back camera it works just fine but the front camera and google don't get along for some reason.
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I believe any camera app you use the front camera will be laggy. hopefully Lollipop fixes this

Glad I found this thread!
I'd like to see some shots using HDR mode on both cams. Google Camera has a pretty amazing HDR+ mode on Nexus, but I guess this will not be active on the Moto X, right?
In my Galaxy S4 GPE the HDR feature in Google Camera takes impressively good pictures...
I'm currently trying to decide between the oversized Nexus6, the Moto X or maybe something completely different. Camera is one of the deciding factors...
Thanks!

Here's my comparison between the Stock X (2014) camera and Google Camera.
https://plus.google.com/109547535739901455455/posts/es5bnENnaz3
Looking at zoomed in sections, the stock camera does quite a bit of over-sharpening, and Google Camera seems to do a better job of capturing detail and better exposure.
I'm really excited to see what 5.0 brings us camera-wise in the coming month.

In my case i prefer the nexus 5 camera. Just the ois is a good feature.
I still use different camera app to understand what is the better one.
I'm sure is only a software problem and Android Lollipop can resolve this.

Why are people complaining about noise? If you're worried about iso noise, take photos with a real camera.

Which camera app?

Just got the phone today and I'm really enjoying it. Camera seems to take pretty decent photos, I'm just not liking the UI of the stock app itself. What are you guys using?

cas239 said:
Just got the phone today and I'm really enjoying it. Camera seems to take pretty decent photos, I'm just not liking the UI of the stock app itself. What are you guys using?
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Stock.
If you use another camera, it won't work with the Moto wrist flick action.

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Stock.
If you use another camera, it won't work with the Moto wrist flick action.
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Yea, I figured as much. I can almost live without that though. Coming from a Note 4 and i'm used to touch to focus.

cas239 said:
Yea, I figured as much. I can almost live without that though. Coming from a Note 4 and i'm used to touch to focus.
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The Moto camera app has touch to focus. You just have to turn off the auto focus..

I'm trying to live with the Moto camera app....I also like it for the barcode scanner...... But, I found the HTC One camera app here on XDA. I've used that app for the last 3 years and have always wished it was available for other phones. It's in the Android apps and games section (here's the link to the thread): http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/themes-apps/mod-htc-one-m9-camera-gallery-t3143538 I like the gallery too.
I've also tried MANY other cameras and the one I like the best so far, and it's new, is: ProShot
I also like Camera FV-5..... I just purchased it today. The 3.0 update that's coming out looks pretty good, that's why I got it now. I don't like the 21mp ratio aspect and if you change it, it takes off 5mp, but we'll see what happens?
Also like: A Better Camera - pretty good, but don't like the UI
AZ Camera - Manual Pro Cam - Just tried it this week, seems ok for a freebie
Open Camera - This one really impressed me for a free camera
Snap Camera - Looks like an upgrade to Open Camera, but I have some "touch" issues with it from time to time
Cameringo+ Effects camera - It has great reviews and 4.6 stars, but I just didn't like the UI either.
CameraMX - Pretty good for a freebie too
Google Camera - It's Google Camera Not much more to say
I plan on messing around with Camera FV-5 tonight to get a better feel for it......But I'll probably always use the Moto camera for the ease of access to it.

Thanks for the suggestions. Do any one of the cemera apps you mentioned allow users to manually set e.g. ISO? (I don't own a MXPE yet so I can't test this myself)
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I'm trying to live with the Moto camera app....I also like it for the barcode scanner...... But, I found the HTC One camera app here on XDA. I've used that app for the last 3 years and have always wished it was available for other phones. It's in the Android apps and games section (here's the link to the thread): http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/themes-apps/mod-htc-one-m9-camera-gallery-t3143538 I like the gallery too.
I've also tried MANY other cameras and the one I like the best so far, and it's new, is: ProShot
I also like Camera FV-5..... I just purchased it today. The 3.0 update that's coming out looks pretty good, that's why I got it now. I don't like the 21mp ratio aspect and if you change it, it takes off 5mp, but we'll see what happens?
Also like: A Better Camera - pretty good, but don't like the UI
AZ Camera - Manual Pro Cam - Just tried it this week, seems ok for a freebie
Open Camera - This one really impressed me for a free camera
Snap Camera - Looks like an upgrade to Open Camera, but I have some "touch" issues with it from time to time
Cameringo+ Effects camera - It has great reviews and 4.6 stars, but I just didn't like the UI either.
CameraMX - Pretty good for a freebie too
Google Camera - It's Google Camera Not much more to say
I plan on messing around with Camera FV-5 tonight to get a better feel for it......But I'll probably always use the Moto camera for the ease of access to it.
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Thanks for the suggestions. Do any one of the cemera apps you mentioned allow users to manually set e.g. ISO? (I don't own a MXPE yet so I can't test this myself)
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Yeah, most of those do.
The Camera FV-5 and Cameringo+ are capable of being almost fully manual. The ProShot has several of those too and the HTC camera even has several manual settings. Not sure about the others, I didn't explore them that much? Pretty sure they'll say in the description? If you get it narrowed down or need more specific info, I can *try* to help by downloading (one I own) and trying something with it? I'm a little restricted on time later this week, headed to St Louis for a business meeting (and Cardinal's game).

Are any of these apps able to shoot 720p in 120 fps? In the other cameras I have tried, I get a pop-up saying fps over thirty isn't supported even on 720p

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Yeah, most of those do.
The Camera FV-5 and Cameringo+ are capable of being almost fully manual. The ProShot has several of those too and the HTC camera even has several manual settings. Not sure about the others, I didn't explore them that much? Pretty sure they'll say in the description? If you get it narrowed down or need more specific info, I can *try* to help by downloading (one I own) and trying something with it? I'm a little restricted on time later this week, headed to St Louis for a business meeting (and Cardinal's game).
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Thanks! When you get a chance, could you use one of these apps to take a couple of photos in low light setting, and see if manually setting the ISO and/or (probably and?!) extending the exposure time would improve the camera's low light performance (without flash)? You probably need a (very?) steady hand
THANKS!

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Thanks! When you get a chance, could you use one of these apps to take a couple of photos in low light setting, and see if manually setting the ISO and/or (probably and?!) extending the exposure time would improve the camera's low light performance (without flash)? You probably need a (very?) steady hand
THANKS!
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Well, I had a few minuted today, so here's the setup..... I play in a band (just a weekend thing), so I went into my music room (aka, my bedroom) and turned off the light, but left the door half-way open and the hall light on... I then took some pics of my gear.
I snapped several pictures using 4 different apps.... There was almost no difference with any of the apps vs the Moto camera as far as quality goes. One disappointing thing, when I tried to change the ISO, 3 of the 4 apps crashed and the 4th didn't allow me to click on the different speeds?? It's almost like the ISO is locked to auto? They all offered a "night mode" which made it brighter, but added quite a bit of noise. There was also an exposure compensation that brightened up the image, but basically did the same thing as night mode and added noise.
I didn't post any of the images, since there was no difference and it wasn't the best of settings. I'll try to get some better testing this evening and see if I get anything worth posting?

The stock camera sucks, because it doesn't have different pic sizes. Only 16m for 4:3 or 21m on 16:9. Witch results in huge file sizes. I take a lot of pics for work and 2m is big enough. The lack of options is weird.

I have tried a bunch of camera apps with this phone.
Stock camera .....very poor quality compared to other apps.
These are the best (not in order):
Snap camera ...takes great pictures, probably the best of the three with the right settings ..... but currently buggy though with this phone ...auto-focus is not that sharp in low light, touch to capture works great and takes sharp focused pictures but is buggy (you often have to double tap to capture, but if you can live with that until it's fixed..) and also the video mode doesn't currently work
Camera FV-5 ....very good quality pics, sharp, detailed, on par with snap, no bugs found
Open Camera ....Very good quality pics, auto focus works best of all the apps, or on par with Camera FV-5 ...no bugs found ....video mode works ....and it's free

Does this app like snap camera or open camera drain more battery than stock caméra ?

Took this one last night at the St Louis Cardinals game.. The post game fireworks.. Not too bad for stock, set on automatic.

Darnell_Chat_TN said:
Stock.
If you use another camera, it won't work with the Moto wrist flick action.
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Stock is ok but wow does the files really have to be so large. Kinda stupid. You don't have enough control to change picture size before taking a pic. Most of the time I am just emailing and texting pics you don't need a 7MB pic for that.

Better Camera App?

Any of you guys have any recommended camera apps?
The stock one (as we know) is so barebones.

Check out "Camera FV-5". I'm using it and I quite like it more than the others.

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Check out "Camera FV-5". I'm using it and I quite like it more than the others.
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can you extend the shutter longer than 1/5th of a second?

Manual Camera also seems to work well.

I'm liking Pro Camera so far. Cheapest of the bunch, and it has plenty of controls. Developer is also very active on Reddit, answering questions & responding to feedback.

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can you extend the shutter longer than 1/5th of a second?
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I was wondering about this too, but I can't get mine to go longer than 1/10th (I mean, it does on the scale, but there is no change in the amount of light the preview shows). Not sure if it is Camera FV-5 that is limited or it's the 6P's camera. LG's G4 Camera can do up to 1/2 and I'm missing that (along with OIS)

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I was wondering about this too, but I can't get mine to go longer than 1/10th (I mean, it does on the scale, but there is no change in the amount of light the preview shows). Not sure if it is Camera FV-5 that is limited or it's the 6P's camera. LG's G4 Camera can do up to 1/2 and I'm missing that (along with OIS)
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I've emailed the developers of Manual Camera and FV-5 to ask about this with no response yet.

When I try to use FV-5, it won't recognize my main camera. It shows the selfie camera when I'm in selfie mode, as well as the main mode. Anyone else having this issue?
Sorry to hijack.

Do any of the cameras mentioned allow pictures during video recording?
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what is the Best camera app?

Im wondering what guys are using for a camera app, the stock moto app, google camera?
Being new to moto and pure android, Im still trying to figure out what is best to use with a lot of apps.
I take a lot of inside pic's where the light may not be as bright as outside shots.
What would you guys recommend?
Thanks

Try out Open Camera. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sourceforge.opencamera&hl=en

Hitch_Itch said:
Im wondering what guys are using for a camera app, the stock moto app, google camera?
Being new to moto and pure android, Im still trying to figure out what is best to use with a lot of apps.
I take a lot of inside pic's where the light may not be as bright as outside shots.
What would you guys recommend?
Thanks
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I just got an update of Motorola Camera from the play store, they claim it has some improvements. I wonder if it will have any impact on photo quality but I doubt.

I use the Google Camera app. I like it's layout the best as I haven't completely gotten used to the Moto camera app's focusing method. It's just easier to take pictures on the Google app, although you miss the integrated double twist to launch the camera.

nv2k said:
I use the Google Camera app. I like it's layout the best as I haven't completely gotten used to the Moto camera app's focusing method. It's just easier to take pictures on the Google app, although you miss the integrated double twist to launch the camera.
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I have not found a way to reduce the image size from say 22 meg to 3 meg. Sometime I take site survey photos and need to email them. I can fit a lot more 3 meg pictures in one email.
I hope that was not just a Samsung option.

camera app

So everyone is complaining about the camera app. What am I missing? Can't you just install the Google camera app?

I was wondering the same but thought maybe that it could possibly not be used due to the two camera setup.

I've read people say you can just install the Google camera app, and that it works fine (but no more detail than that - I imagine it might not use the monochrome camera, will be surprised if it tries to use both together).

The OnePlus 5 camera was ported to the honor 8. Maybe the same could be done for the essential phone
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I installed the APK for the Google Pixel Camera ... pretty sure it was from this site. Didn't work. Crashes the instant you open it. Kinda wondering if I did something wrong??
PS: The camera really is beyond awful. The results are on par with a 20 year old disposable camera. Really need to get something better ASAP.

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I installed the APK for the Google Pixel Camera ... pretty sure it was from this site. Didn't work. Crashes the instant you open it. Kinda wondering if I did something wrong??
PS: The camera really is beyond awful. The results are on par with a 20 year old disposable camera. Really need to get something better ASAP.
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Google Camera link: https://goo.gl/YMKJsC
Essential Camera apk link:
a) https://goo.gl/LhfjAo or
b) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.essential.klik
Attached picture taken with Essential Camera Apps (no editing on the photo)

BonkersTheClown said:
I installed the APK for the Google Pixel Camera ... pretty sure it was from this site. Didn't work. Crashes the instant you open it. Kinda wondering if I did something wrong??
PS: The camera really is beyond awful. The results are on par with a 20 year old disposable camera. Really need to get something better ASAP.
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I have no issues taking pictures, all mine turn out fantastic. Especially when just using the monochrome sensor by itself.

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Guys am I missing something? Is there any way to change from a 4:3 aspect ratio to a 16:9 one for the rear cameras using the default camera app? I am able to do it of course using the Google camera app.

I use the "Open Camera" app. Seem to work well

I haven't seen anyone mention that the stock camera app is compressing the pics. Stock pics come out at 1.6 mbs or so while Gcsm is 3+ mbs.
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mhajii210 said:
Guys am I missing something? Is there any way to change from a 4:3 aspect ratio to a 16:9 one for the rear cameras using the default camera app? I am able to do it of course using the Google camera app.
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Don't have the phone on me now but I'd imagine it's the resolution that sets the aspect ratio so choose one that is 16:9 like 4032x2268 (9.1M) or 2560:1440 (3.7M). At least those are my options on my S8's stock camera app... lol

Just got the phone and seeing the resolution as 4160x3120 but the file is only 1mb vs 5.5mb on the Google camera. Too much compression, no wonder the photos look so grainy.