Hi,
I have a I9505 which I have flashed with Google edition 4.3.
If I use the stock Google edition camera I get really bad results, lots of blurred photos. Today I was experimenting with Focal from CM10.2 and I was getting radically improved results.
I've attached some examples of text, but I get it with everything, no matter what the situation. Taking a shot in bright sunny conditions still gives me the same results.
I examined the EXIF data and shots taken with Stock & Focal are using exactly the same settings, ISO, Exposure, etc. I tried holding still for long after the shutter press to see if that helped, it didn't.
Here is a link to hi-res versions https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0xw0tgh8c695994/YmAC0tHpoH
I came from a Xperia Z which had the S4 GE camera app flashed on it, but I was pretty careful not to import this when I transitioned from a Titanium Backup. Even if I had copied it across, it should be exactly the same?
Any thoughts? or suggestions?
Steve
The blur feature looks like that the jpeg compress too much, rather than higher ISO.
I've installed Gapps on my Samsung tw ROM. so I have both Samsung camera app and Google gallery with google's camera app.
Compare the photo taken by the two camera app. the photo of stock samsung camera is really large in size. can be 4~6MB. almost 10 times size than photo taken by of Google camera app (about 400K-800K). 1300M pixels img compree to such a small size, of course google edition camera is blured.
jiant.li said:
The blur feature looks like that the jpeg compress too much, rather than higher ISO.
I've installed Gapps on my Samsung tw ROM. so I have both Samsung camera app and Google gallery with google's camera app.
Compare the photo taken by the two camera app. the photo of stock samsung camera is really large in size. can be 4~6MB. almost 10 times size than photo taken by of Google camera app (about 400K-800K). 1300M pixels img compree to such a small size, of course google edition camera is blured.
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Hi,
Thanks for getting back to me.
The dropbox link gives you hi-res versions, the attached images are just cropped versions. Both the Stock Google App and Focal App are taking identical images:
Pixel Height: 3,096
Pixel Width: 4,128
And the EXIF data is also identical, with (very) slight variance in the brightness value.
I didn't know you could run the Samsung camera! Coming from the Xperia Z, the camera and skin are tied together. Any ideas where I might find the Samsung stock camera?
jiant.li said:
The blur feature looks like that the jpeg compress too much, rather than higher ISO.
I've installed Gapps on my Samsung tw ROM. so I have both Samsung camera app and Google gallery with google's camera app.
Compare the photo taken by the two camera app. the photo of stock samsung camera is really large in size. can be 4~6MB. almost 10 times size than photo taken by of Google camera app (about 400K-800K). 1300M pixels img compree to such a small size, of course google edition camera is blured.
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Sorry didn't read that properly! You are running the Google camera on stock ROM.
Rassilon7 said:
Sorry didn't read that properly! You are running the Google camera on stock ROM.
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It's alol right. My English is quite poor. I'm Chinese. I know my posts might be hard to read. I'm practise on it. .:laugh:
I've seen the orginal files in dropbox, they are the same size.
My google edition camera app have the same problem,
I don't know why, but I guess it might be the unrobust noise reduction algorithm in google app, which may cause the image blur.
jiant.li said:
It's alol right. My English is quite poor. I'm Chinese. I know my posts might be hard to read. I'm practise on it. .:laugh:
I've seen the orginal files in dropbox, they are the same size.
My google edition camera app have the same problem,
I don't know why, but I guess it might be the unrobust noise reduction algorithm in google app, which may cause the image blur.
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Seems very odd that Google would release such a bad camera app... makes me think that I have broken it some how...
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So yesterday I email myself a few pics of my car I had on my I pad. When I check them out I notice they are low on detail. I was thinking what the heck higher Res and less detail? I compared the same pic on the ipad and instantly notice the difference. Thinking its impossible I jump into the market and look for another photoviewer and low and behold it displays all that missing detail. I started comparing all my pics on the zoom in both apps on my device (for reference I downloaded viewpic basically it was the first free app I found).
Anyone else notice this? Looks like the stock gallary app is helping to hurt the first impression of the screen and camera when checking out pics. Thankfully it ain't a hardware thing.
Until Google fixes the stock viewer, here is a solution that works for me.
arrtoodeetoo said:
Q: Photos in the stock viewer are blurred when scaled to fit the screen. How do I view my DLSR pics and other high quality photos without the blur?
A: Download QuickPic from the market (free). It's a photo viewer that scales correctly without garbling photos.
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Yep, I have noticed the same, and my Vibrant had the same issue with it's gallery App when it first came out, it was eventually fixed.
Well, hello there,
as you Note 3 owners probably noticed, the Samsung Camera Stock app applies a heavy (!!) blur filter on every picture. Why? Don't know, because it's the Samsung way. My Note 1 made far better and sharper pictures.
But fear not, there is a solution. There is an App called "FV5" in the store which has far less agressive post processing and is much sharper. Here is a comparison.
You should really get rid of the stock-app, I suggest. It's horrible and there is much more in the Note 3 camera when we thought so far. It's pretty ok in combination with the right app.
Stock:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/g1g4kxw65e8gkzf/20140106_092845.jpg
FV5:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1rb0qp0qzxs09ck/DSC_0089.JPG
I have FV5 and Snap camera, but I rarely use my camera unless it's for a drunken pic of something stupid. - Haven't really tested the differences in any of them either. But I will later today
I've had mine little over a week and have to say I have been far from impressed with the pictures it takes.
descb600f said:
I've had mine little over a week and have to say I have been far from impressed with the pictures it takes.
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The hardware itself is pretty good. It just needs the right software to drive it. Without the blur of the stock app you can make nice pictures.
Sephi said:
Well, hello there,
as you Note 3 owners probably noticed, the Samsung Camera Stock app applies a heavy (!!) blur filter on every picture. Why? Don't know, because it's the Samsung way. My Note 1 made far better and sharper pictures.
But fear not, there is a solution. There is an App called "FV5" in the store which has far less agressive post processing and is much sharper. Here is a comparison.
You should really get rid of the stock-app, I suggest. It's horrible and there is much more in the Note 3 camera when we thought so far. It's pretty ok in combination with the right app.
Stock:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/g1g4kxw65e8gkzf/20140106_092845.jpg
FV5:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1rb0qp0qzxs09ck/DSC_0089.JPG
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I have noticed that the first image is 9.6 Mp whilst the second is full 13mp
The default setting is 16:9 aspect ratio
Try setting 13mp in standard camera app then repeat your test.
Certainly FV5 has a lot of flexibility if you're familiar with photography settings
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I know that was a mistake I made. But fear not, that is not the issue here. In fact it does barely make a difference. It's the Stock-Apps post processing that kills all image quality. FV5 is far superior.
Sephi said:
I know that was a mistake I made. But fear not, that is not the issue here. In fact it does barely make a difference. It's the Stock-Apps post processing that kills all image quality. FV5 is far superior.
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I've also noticed a slight blur with the AOSP Camera app under CM 11. But at least there is no annoying post-processing. I would say the stock camera app does provide the best image quality results, due to the post-processing, since the hardware by itself is nothing incredible (the sensor is rather small compared to the sensors used in the latest Sony and Nokia phones). A bigger sensor not only enables greater detail, but when combined with OIS (like in the aforementioned phones), minimizes blur as well. I tried the FV app, and while it has a lot of added functionality, I did not like the layout in which they were implemented, and the picture quality was similar to the stock Samsung app. If the Lenovo Super Camera app worked on my ROM, that would probably be the best alternative.
semendemon said:
I've also noticed a slight blur with the AOSP Camera app under CM 11. But at least there is no annoying post-processing. I would say the stock camera app does provide the best image quality results, due to the post-processing, since the hardware by itself is nothing incredible (the sensor is rather small compared to the sensors used in the latest Sony and Nokia phones). A bigger sensor not only enables greater detail, but when combined with OIS (like in the aforementioned phones), minimizes blur as well. I tried the FV app, and while it has a lot of added functionality, I did not like the layout in which they were implemented, and the picture quality was similar to the stock Samsung app. If the Lenovo Super Camera app worked on my ROM, that would probably be the best alternative.
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Sorry, but the Stock Camera App from Samsung applies HEAVY post processing. It basically blurs the whole image, all sharpness is gone. It's horrible. FV5 does take much better pictures.
Sephi said:
You should really get rid of the stock-app, I suggest. It's horrible and there is much more in the Note 3 camera when we thought so far. It's pretty ok in combination with the right app.
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Good find, seems like a nice app, the stock camera app really is garbage.
Kinda funny, i come from a z1 and i take better pics with my note 3 in low light i just play with ev and iso
Lexrg said:
Kinda funny, i come from a z1 and i take better pics with my note 3 in low light i just play with ev and iso
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You will take even better pictures with FV5. The stock apps noise filter is so heavy that it blurs everything, imo it's impossible to shoot a really sharp picture. It's always kinda blurry.
Take some photos and compare, it's super obvious.
i think many of you z1c users have experienced the problem of bluring in a image especially taking photos of landscapes and sceneries .. in which details matter the most.. A 20.7 MP camera is expected to fulfil the need of clarity and detail to some extent when it comes to these photos.. The problem with Sony's official camera app is that it blurs some parts of the photo and give us a somewhat blurred image.. This however can be solved using a third party camera app... I have used two of them (camera fx and procapture) both giving better result than sony's official camera app.. I dont know whether z2 camera app has solved this or not but for now a third party app is my best bet to get the most out of the the camera!! Will post more camparitive photos in the coming days..
I have also noticed this blurring. I tried camera zoom fx, but for whatever reason I can't stand the UI. So I have been using Camera Fv-5, it is an improvement, however I will be trying more.
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Did somebody try the new Z2 Cam App? Its available for all xperia devices.
Probably there are some improvements.
Didnt tried it because of the libraries were not available for timeshift and 4k video.. Many people are working on it on Z1 forum.. Hopefully will see it soon.. And more importantly.. I hope this blurring effect is solved..
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Did somebody try the new Z2 Cam App? Its available for all xperia devices.
Probably there are some improvements.
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I did try, but the camera module looks exactly the same. Could be something with the libs, but it doesn't really matter. The pics are still blurred.
Can someone post examples with stock and third party app? I don't see the bluring in my pics.
I went to a retail store, and z1's photo have more details than the compact.
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hash054 said:
i think many of you z1c users have experienced the problem of bluring in a image especially taking photos of landscapes and sceneries .. in which details matter the most.. A 20.7 MP camera is expected to fulfil the need of clarity and detail to some extent when it comes to these photos.. The problem with Sony's official camera app is that it blurs some parts of the photo and give us a somewhat blurred image.. This however can be solved using a third party camera app... I have used two of them (camera fx and procapture) both giving better result than sony's official camera app.. I dont know whether z2 camera app has solved this or not but for now a third party app is my best bet to get the most out of the the camera!! Will post more camparitive photos in the coming days..
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In different app, but equal setting:
ZX1C focus/defocus
In my opinion the stock kamera app doesn't right focus setting.
Camera FV 5
After the recommendation of many Camera FV 5 users.. I gave it a shot.. and I was not disappointed.. The customization and the result stand out from all the other apps.. focus is pretty damn good and no more blury pictures.. and no details ignored.. only day time test left.. night samples are better than I expected!
Is there anyway to change which camera app opens from the lockscreen. I want FV5 to launch from the lockscreen not sony's app. I'm running stock KK.
VSCO Camera is pretty good. I am also wondering from the post above if there is a way to change the default camera on the lock screen.
Snap camera is one of my favourite.
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you should post more various pics (8MP/20MP) from other apps, gives a better idea. the first post pic isn't exactly clear in either shot
stringy2010 said:
I have also noticed this blurring. I tried camera zoom fx, but for whatever reason I can't stand the UI. So I have been using Camera Fv-5, it is an improvement, however I will be trying more.
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Try to play with iso settings tray iso 50 or 100 for 20.7 image
Hi all,
besides some blur on certain conditions(low light) what I most regret of this 20mpx camera on the Z1Compact is that all pictures looks like washed out, like without proper contrast or white balance is incorrect.
I have tried in Manual Mode with ISO 50, 100, 200, also moving the exposure control on the screen, white balance in automatic and also 'sun' or 'light bulb', most of the shots don't have vivid colors.
I come from Samsung Galaxy SII, then I had S4, then a Note 3 ... (then I realized that big phones are not comfortable to carry in the pocket all day and switched to Z1Compact), all Samsung phones had different colors on taken pictures, more vivid.
Any advise on how to take better pictures with Z1Compact?
Thanks.
sinple said:
I went to a retail store, and z1's photo have more details than the compact.
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Having owned both, the Z1 *looks* like the photos are better because the screen has higher resolution (1080p), but in reality when you load photos onto a computer, the Z1C is distinctly better.
Also when I changed my back case from plastic to glass (which also replaces the glass over the camera lens) I noticed a small improvement in sharpness, particularly in the corners.
awojtas said:
Also when I changed my back case from plastic to glass (which also replaces the glass over the camera lens) I noticed a small improvement in sharpness, particularly in the corners.
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Hi,
where did buy the back cover replacement? Can you share a link or PM me the link if you're not allowed to post it in the forum?
Thanks.
I have 'Snap' running on CM12 and I'm initially very impressed.........opens up the 20 meg Cyber-shot camera ability nicely.
RAW file access would be nice so we could then import to a hardcore editor on a PC....and I'm sure that wouldn't be too difficult to sort out with an update.....but for a few pennies it's way way better than the google camera app that comes with CM12.
Have you tried using the Camera2 API in snap? I cant tell if it makes a difference or not...
In .242 fw doesn't work the Camera2 API...
I see a huge size difference in the images captured using stock camera app on I9500, and the Google Camera app.
This is true for same dimensions (12.8 MP)
With all settings high in both apps,
An average pic in lot of colourful objects is ~3.5 MB, with stock
With Google Camera, the same shot in same lighting is ~500KB alone
Is this normal? Am I compromising on quality
Any lights?
Will attach images soon
om.thelostone said:
I see a huge size difference in the images captured using stock camera app on I9500, and the Google Camera app.
This is true for same dimensions (12.8 MP)
With all settings high in both apps,
An average pic in lot of colourful objects is ~3.5 MB, with stock
With Google Camera, the same shot in same lighting is ~500KB alone
Is this normal? Am I compromising on quality
Any lights?
Will attach images soon
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Do you need an explaination for this????
I found that there was slight quality difference when viewing on the phone. The s4 camera fared better.
Try viewing the photos on the desktop. Your query might get resolved.
The lower size one is that of the Google Camera.
Thank me if I helped
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So everyone is complaining about the camera app. What am I missing? Can't you just install the Google camera app?
I was wondering the same but thought maybe that it could possibly not be used due to the two camera setup.
I've read people say you can just install the Google camera app, and that it works fine (but no more detail than that - I imagine it might not use the monochrome camera, will be surprised if it tries to use both together).
The OnePlus 5 camera was ported to the honor 8. Maybe the same could be done for the essential phone
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I installed the APK for the Google Pixel Camera ... pretty sure it was from this site. Didn't work. Crashes the instant you open it. Kinda wondering if I did something wrong??
PS: The camera really is beyond awful. The results are on par with a 20 year old disposable camera. Really need to get something better ASAP.
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I installed the APK for the Google Pixel Camera ... pretty sure it was from this site. Didn't work. Crashes the instant you open it. Kinda wondering if I did something wrong??
PS: The camera really is beyond awful. The results are on par with a 20 year old disposable camera. Really need to get something better ASAP.
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Google Camera link: https://goo.gl/YMKJsC
Essential Camera apk link:
a) https://goo.gl/LhfjAo or
b) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.essential.klik
Attached picture taken with Essential Camera Apps (no editing on the photo)
BonkersTheClown said:
I installed the APK for the Google Pixel Camera ... pretty sure it was from this site. Didn't work. Crashes the instant you open it. Kinda wondering if I did something wrong??
PS: The camera really is beyond awful. The results are on par with a 20 year old disposable camera. Really need to get something better ASAP.
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I have no issues taking pictures, all mine turn out fantastic. Especially when just using the monochrome sensor by itself.
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Guys am I missing something? Is there any way to change from a 4:3 aspect ratio to a 16:9 one for the rear cameras using the default camera app? I am able to do it of course using the Google camera app.
I use the "Open Camera" app. Seem to work well
I haven't seen anyone mention that the stock camera app is compressing the pics. Stock pics come out at 1.6 mbs or so while Gcsm is 3+ mbs.
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mhajii210 said:
Guys am I missing something? Is there any way to change from a 4:3 aspect ratio to a 16:9 one for the rear cameras using the default camera app? I am able to do it of course using the Google camera app.
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Don't have the phone on me now but I'd imagine it's the resolution that sets the aspect ratio so choose one that is 16:9 like 4032x2268 (9.1M) or 2560:1440 (3.7M). At least those are my options on my S8's stock camera app... lol
Just got the phone and seeing the resolution as 4160x3120 but the file is only 1mb vs 5.5mb on the Google camera. Too much compression, no wonder the photos look so grainy.