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Sony Ericsson Xperia(TM) X1 Available in U.S. 28th of November

Hot off the press: http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/11-12-2008/0004923677&EDATE=

dont get too excited yet!
remember the launch date for uk? 9/30/2008? haha
by the time this X1 is out in USA, it already 2009!

Unlocked = crippled!
Sure....an $800 unlocked phone for the US that will only fully work with a single carrier...riiiiight.
Could Sony Ericsson have possible botched the Xperia any more than they have??
Any bets on the date that SE announces they're withdrawing the Xperia from the US market?
Be seeing you,
The Duck

You ever wonder why people complain that Europe and Japan get all of the "cool" phones and the U.S. doesn't? It's because the way our 3G network is setup. Everyone has different frequencies, and it's almost impossible to make a chip to carry all of them. Europe has a bunch of different carriers that use the same 3G frequencies, which is why it's easier to roll out the phones there. Helps the consumer, helps the carrier, helps the manufacturer.
So when some manufacturer DOES decide to bring a phone to the U.S., you lambaste them because of it's high unlocked price, even though all unlocked phones are expensive. (I was in best buy today and they're selling the N95-4 for $750 still!). Guess what, the X1i is free on contract in Europe. It would be free here too if our 3G network weren't so backwards.
So basically, all these manufacturers are producing 3G phones for the U.S. and they know fully well it only works on AT&T. That's why they only make a few phones compatible - it's not economical to bring them over just to work with one carrier.

dinan said:
You ever wonder why people complain that Europe and Japan get all of the "cool" phones and the U.S. doesn't? It's because the way our 3G network is setup. Everyone has different frequencies, and it's almost impossible to make a chip to carry all of them. Europe has a bunch of different carriers that use the same 3G frequencies, which is why it's easier to roll out the phones there. Helps the consumer, helps the carrier, helps the manufacturer.
So when some manufacturer DOES decide to bring a phone to the U.S., you lambaste them because of it's high unlocked price, even though all unlocked phones are expensive. (I was in best buy today and they're selling the N95-4 for $750 still!). Guess what, the X1i is free on contract in Europe. It would be free here too if our 3G network weren't so backwards.
So basically, all these manufacturers are producing 3G phones for the U.S. and they know fully well it only works on AT&T. That's why they only make a few phones compatible - it's not economical to bring them over just to work with one carrier.
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You're right that the US frequency mish mash is a mess....but don't think for a minute that phones can't include multiple frequencies and that the carriers are innocent! Verizon, for example, recently insisted that a mfr modify their phone to remove frequencies that would allow the phone to work on T-mobile's network (I forget the phone....a blackberry, I think). Who decides that a quad band phone should be released in the US as triband or dual band? The phone mfr...nah.
As microsoft said the other day....US carriers don't want to be considered "dumb pipes"; i.e., providing generic access to cell frequencies for customers to use any phone with at reasonable rates! It's the carriers that block phones from tethering unless extra fees are paid to do what the phone can do using the cell networks....its the carriers that create goofy MediaNet type "services" to extract extra fees for doing what the net provides on the unadulterated phones! Its reminiscent of when AOL made users think they were part of some special club that was better than the new fangled internet....even by rebranding a limited access to the net as their own service!
Ah well....I rant and I vent....and I still pay crazy high phone bills.
Bill Gates himself once said that we'd one day look back and view paying for telephone services based on time and distance as "quaint". Within a country we're clearly there (ever watch an old movie and see people run to the phone when a "long distance" call came through?...too funny). But we're not there currently internationally! One day we'll look back at Orange being able to offer a phone for free on contract compared with AT&T being able to charge $299 or even blackmail the mfr into not making a deal, forcing them to sell a phone (a few of them, anyway) for $800 as quaint.
I can't wait for the arrival of international voice and data packages that would allow customers to choose Orange or AT&T or whomever we want to give our monthly money to without being forced to accept bloated software crippled phones!!
Ahh...ok...NOW rant over.
Be seeing you,
The Duck
p.s. - the carrier greed doesn't excuse Sony for this goofyness! If they wanted to sell an unblocked phone they could have made it compatible with more networks than AT&T. It looks like they screwed up and built a phone that was only suitable for AT&T without locking up a contract with AT&T. The carrier probably used the position of strength to extract more than SE's ego would accept....but the phrase "cutting off your nose to spite your face" comes to mind. Bad SE lawyers + greedy AT&T = bye bye Xperia.

TheDuck said:
Sure....an $800 unlocked phone for the US that will only fully work with a single carrier...riiiiight.
Could Sony Ericsson have possible botched the Xperia any more than they have??
Any bets on the date that SE announces they're withdrawing the Xperia from the US market?
Be seeing you,
The Duck
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if you have to complains, u cant afford it!
did u also complain about HTC diamond selling for 699$ at bestbuy? haha
well, i bought diamond at bestbuy for 699+tax=748$, i know i can get it cheaper online, but i just hate waiting!

X10 with ATT's 3G

Just started looking around to buy an X10. Can't seem to find one that supports ATT's 850/1900 frequency. Do they even sell an X10 that supports that yet ?

Not at the moment. Probably soon. Rogers (Canadian carrier) will be selling its LOCKED x10a so if you want to get it, you'll need to get it unlocked. But it does have the correct frequency for AT&T.

Its coming, rumor has it possible as soon as the Rogers release mid month. Try this link for a little unlocked 850/1900 love ---> http://www.expansys-usa.com/d.aspx?i=190979

Ah ok, thanks guys.

Ya, the X10 will be available through Rogers directly (as well as through Canadian Best Buy stores) on April 15th. Should be $549.99 CDN. It should work on AT&T once unlocked.
There's a thread over on HoFo where U.S. customers are requesting X10's from Canadians:
Anyone In Canada could buy a x10 for me ?

We cant just wander over the border and pick one up?

krabman said:
We cant just wander over the border and pick one up?
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Of course you can. Not convenient for many is all.

In theory the Canadian BB unlocked phone should be the same thing as the American version, be curious to see where it gets priced. Wondering if we will get it in BBs south of the border as I type this.... I would love to put my grubs on this before making a decision.

Samsung Galaxy S2.. on at&t!

This just in:
Original news link:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/13/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-hits-the-fcc-potentially-ready-for-atandt-3g/
FCC Link:
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas...e=N&application_id=273771&fcc_id='A3LGTI9100'
I'd be really happy if it does come on at&t bands because all of Canadia works on the same bands

that doesnt mean anything.. the stock sgs ii has att bands and just becuase it is going through fcc approval doesnt mean it is att requesting the approval.. could just be samsung getting it approved as it does all its phones.

Either way he can use it just fine, so it's a lot to get excited about

he could use it without fcc's approval...
also engadget was really slow this is friday's news
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_gal...mode_i708_prototype_hit_the_fcc-news-2412.php
what did you think? ffc doesn't work on sundays

Well I for one happy about this.
I held out for waiting for the atrix, but in the end it just wasn't enough for me. I have a captivate and have enjoyed having it rooted and running froyo way before AT&T and sammy got off their ass.

i fully expect the s2 to have all the same bands that the galaxy s1 had, and the omnia hd also had, the same quadband coverage, dont expect anything to change here. because they are the most widely used bands, perfect for an international model.

Oh man, this is getting harder and harder.
Is going to be either SGS2 or iP5.
So difficult.

i still believe S2 will be compatible to all providers, like S1,,
make the base of fight with ip5,,
using tegra2 to ensure the quantity for sale ,, which makes sense.

This was known for a while now, that the Galaxy S 2 wwould work on ATT 3G bands. What is not known is whether ATT will pick up the phone or not.
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They would be fools not to pick it up.
Phones are just bait to get and keep subscribers. The phone should be a great device.

If this is a AT&T only phone, there is no justice in the world.

The international version works on AT&T.
Even if some US Carriers carry it, it will suck in comparison. Look at the Captivate/Vibrant compared to the i9000.

Yeah, that is true.
If AT&T does get they will probably request that sammy retard the phone some how. Like taking away some of the radios or no front facing camera.
I'm hoping they wont do that this time, but they probably will find some way to screw it up.

Agreed! I won't ever buy a AT&T retarded phone again, if there is an international one available I will pay extra for it. Like the Captivate vs i9000.

lgkahn said:
that doesnt mean anything.. the stock sgs ii has att bands and just becuase it is going through fcc approval doesnt mean it is att requesting the approval.. could just be samsung getting it approved as it does all its phones.
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vista1984 said:
i still believe S2 will be compatible to all providers, like S1,,
make the base of fight with ip5,,
using tegra2 to ensure the quantity for sale ,, which makes sense.
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I completely understand if you guys didn't dig into FCC documents to read what they said, I don't blame you, but just to clarify, the device passed is an 850/1900 ONLY phone, meaning it can only be for AT&T or Canadian carriers.
Other versions will likely be released, but the version that passed FCC is not going to work on other US carriers.
MikeyMike01 said:
The international version works on AT&T.
Even if some US Carriers carry it, it will suck in comparison. Look at the Captivate/Vibrant compared to the i9000.
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We'll have to see if they strip out features again. FFC is a must, and I don't think they'll strip that out. I think they took that out last time because the network wasn't ready for video calling. They wanted HSPA+ prior to letting people use video calling. Other phones AT&T sells have an FFC now, so I don't think the SGS2 will be any different.
Other than that, what, FM radio and no HSUPA? AT&T SAYS they are going to start rolling out HSUPA, we'll see, if not I'm sure a radio swap with an international version will work again. And FM radio would be a nice addition, but I certainly won't make a decision on a phone over it. I can always use TuneIn and iheartradio if I really want to listen to my ****ty local stations. Oh, and a flash on the camera. That one actually may sway my decision to buy it if they don't include a flash. That was one of the stupidest things I've seen, but I found that I don't care about flash for pictures as much as I do for a flashlight. Most cell phone pictures taken with flash look like crap anyway.
I would go for an international version if they were at least somewhat reasonable in price, but I'm not paying $700-800+ USD for an international version.
Anyway, I hope they will hurry up. I have an upgrade that I'm itching to use!

AJerman said:
I would go for an international version if they were at least somewhat reasonable in price, but I'm not paying $700-800+ USD for an international version.
Anyway, I hope they will hurry up. I have an upgrade that I'm itching to use!
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Why not? Use your upgrade + $199 to buy an Iphone5, sell it for ~$600, pay <$300 out-of-pocket for the international version. The latest details are $700 and a May date from the other thread.

madgraph said:
Why not? Use your upgrade + $199 to buy an Iphone5, sell it for ~$600, pay <$300 out-of-pocket for the international version. The latest details are $700 and a May date from the other thread.
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Because I don't want to spend that much on a phone right now. I just bought an iPad 2 as my latest toy, so I have to limit myself. Depending on the cost on AT&T, I'm up for upgrade price plus $50 off. If it hits a $200 price point again I can probably get it for $150. We don't even know what will be different between the two yet.

AJerman said:
I just bought an iPad 2 as my latest toy,
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I'm sorry.
Sent from my Captivate

But will the international version allow us to have HSPA+ on ATT? Or just 3G?

andrew53517 said:
But will the international version allow us to have HSPA+ on ATT? Or just 3G?
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HSPA+, fully unlocked

Htc One Developer Edition to be $649

Unlocked and ready to be used. It also seems to be a US Exclusive.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/03/13/htc-one-developer-edition-unlocked-sim-bootloader-649/

demo27vol1 said:
Unlocked and ready to be used. It also seems to be a US Exclusive.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/03/13/htc-one-developer-edition-unlocked-sim-bootloader-649/
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Good news, now where and when can we buy it!?

s-off too ?

"One thing it's missing? AWS HSPA/WCDMA access, which should limit its opportunities on T-Mobile until it rolls out LTE service."

I don't get it, why do you have to pay extra for this now? Should be as standard, I ain't gonna support this scam, Glad I don't live in the US.

Since they released an unlocked version the US variants won't probably be unlockable through htcdev.

LOL! I'll bet 90% of the people who would get that aren't developers at all.

And it's US-only...

slannmage said:
I don't get it, why do you have to pay extra for this now? Should be as standard, I ain't gonna support this scam, Glad I don't live in the US.
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you are not paying extra, its cheap considering the 64GB

Original link (why post something that's not straight from the source?)
http://blog.htc.com/2013/03/htc-one-developer-edition/

Wow, I feel lucky. I'll be visiting the US in May. I'll be getting a 64GB version for cheap

I would get it now if it was available. My 32GB order from handtec.uk cost $653
Sounds like a better deal for a 64GB version!

Just on the basis of it being an unlocked/ unbranded version with LTE AND 64GB of memory, I'm all over it! I'm really glad I didn't order an unlocked one from overseas now!

No chance of this being made available in Europe with UK LTE frequencies, I suppose...?

Shasarak said:
No chance of this being made available in Europe with UK LTE frequencies, I suppose...?
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Since the rest of the world has always had the ability to purchase unlocked phones for any carrier and US wireless companies tend to want their phones locked down tight to their networks, it might not be a big market concern for them outside of the US market. If enough people wrote/ called/ messaged HTC from other regions they might be willing to make a version for other areas with LTE, but it sounds like that isn't their immediate plan.

EddyOS said:
Original link (why post something that's not straight from the source?)
And it's US-only...
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So lte would not work until tmobile rolls it out, but will faux 4g still work?
Nvrmnd. Only 2g for tmobile unless you're in a refamrmed network.
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I am way more likely to get One given this. $650 for 64GB is a great deal. IPhone 5 64 is $850 US. I bet this will be a Nexus 4 -- sell out in 30 minutes -- situation.
Then again, I am on ATT, soon to go to Straight Talk.

This version will be sold with sim and bootloader factory unlocked? If so it works in all countries...

So this would work fine on Sprint? I don't understand this AWS business.

HTC One Canada

Telus has a "Coming Soon" indicator on their site. PdaPlaza has a Silver and Black 32GB unlocked One for an availability date slotted on March 25th for $680 outright. I am not seeing the 700MHz frequency for LTE on the PdaPlaza 32GB phone. Rogers has the same Telus phone for $149.99 on a 3yr contract.
I would love the Developer Edition in Canada. I think I will wait and buy that online with 64GB and LTE.
http://www.pdaplaza.ca/brands/HTC.html
http://www.telusmobility.com/en/AB/htc_one/index.shtml
http://www.rogers.com/web/link/wirelessBuyFlow?forwardTo=PhoneThenPlan&productType=normal&productId_Detailed=801AGRY&N=52+11+4294965972

The HTC One is 149.99$ with a 3 years contract on the Rogers website BTW
http://www.rogers.com/web/link/wire...productId_Detailed=801AGRY&N=52+78+4294948360

Disappointing that the Rogers version is only 32GB. I wonder if Telus or AT&T will offer the 64GB at launch. Of course there will be the developer version with 64GB but us Canadians can't order it easily

mickliq said:
Disappointing that the Rogers version is only 32GB. I wonder if Telus or AT&T will offer the 64GB at launch. Of course there will be the developer version with 64GB but us Canadians can't order it easily
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3 Year contract. GASP.

Screw contracts I always end up trading my phones. KIJIJI TIME!!!

I only buy off-contract

Will this phone work on koodo or virgin mobile? I heard virgin mobile will be getting it, but i can't find any information on their site. The reason i am asking is that i am moving back to Canada at the end of March and need to get a phone and phone plan and im looking at koodoo/virgin as they use the telus/bell network and provide the best plans for the buck. Would love to get this phone.

**** Canadian Providers... We get a 20$ discount for the privilege of selling our souls for an extra year.
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Any sightings of the 64 gb?

I haven't seen the 64GB anywhere yet...

Seems Telus and Rogers at least mention the phone. Any word on Bell? I know they are listed as one of the carriers will have it, but any pre-order information or pricing?

I just saw that PDA Plaza states the release of the unlocked One will be available April 4th.

Edit: nevermind.

HTC One on Bell Canada
Kewjoe said:
Seems Telus and Rogers at least mention the phone. Any word on Bell? I know they are listed as one of the carriers will have it, but any pre-order information or pricing?
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A few days ago I called HTC to inquire about the possibility of the One's release on Bell. Sadly the representative told me that Bell was not listed as one of the supported carriers, and although it may change, it isn't too likely. I was told to give it a month to get a solid answer, but for the time being, the phone was listed only for Rogers and Telus.
And Bell again misses out on HTC's best (the previous being the One X)...
If I don't hear otherwise by the time the One is actually released, I will pull the trigger on the unlocked edition =]

WolfDale7 said:
A few days ago I called HTC to inquire about the possibility of the One's release on Bell. Sadly the representative told me that Bell was not listed as one of the supported carriers, and although it may change, it isn't too likely. I was told to give it a month to get a solid answer, but for the time being, the phone was listed only for Rogers and Telus.
And Bell again misses out on HTC's best (the previous being the One X)...
If I don't hear otherwise by the time the One is actually released, I will pull the trigger on the unlocked edition =]
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Pretty sure HTC Canada said it was coming to Rogers, Bell, Virgin and Telus. I know Virgin made a Google+ post with the HTC One in the picture announcing they were going to get it. Here's the post.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/114690734353801784595/posts/6vs4bYArBWQ
Since Virgin Mobile is a subsidiary of Bell Canada, they probably have some loopholes to switch carriers like Rogers had with Fido, where if you sign a new 3 year term with them (Virgin), Bell would wave any early cancellation fees as long as you've been with them for a year or more since, you are essentially resigning with the same company. You'd have to call Bell and find out if that would be an option for you, (providing they actually don't get the HTC One), then you could just get it through Virgin, if Bell allows this. I was able to do this with Rogers when I wanted to switch to Fido.

My guess is that Bell is holding out on announcing new phones until they can clear out old inventory. I expect an announcement next week or the week after.

Wind Mobile
I'm looking to get the developer edition or any unlocked version on-line.
Can anyone confirm if this will work on Wind Mobile with full network functionality/capabilities?
Thanks

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Pretty sure HTC Canada said it was coming to Rogers, Bell, Virgin and Telus. I know Virgin made a Google+ post with the HTC One in the picture announcing they were going to get it. Here's the post.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/114690734353801784595/posts/6vs4bYArBWQ
Since Virgin Mobile is a subsidiary of Bell Canada, they probably have some loopholes to switch carriers like Rogers had with Fido, where if you sign a new 3 year term with them (Virgin), Bell would wave any early cancellation fees as long as you've been with them for a year or more since, you are essentially resigning with the same company. You'd have to call Bell and find out if that would be an option for you, (providing they actually don't get the HTC One), then you could just get it through Virgin, if Bell allows this. I was able to do this with Rogers when I wanted to switch to Fido.
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That sounds like a plan -- just willing to see if Bell wouldn't mind the switch, then I'm all set =]
I did call HTC again today though.. Just to see if they had an update. Funny how Bell wasn't able to confirm Virgin as a carrier -- horrible logistics. They did tell me that if Virgin does end up releasing it and Bell doesn't, I can just buy it outright and use it with Bell (already knew this ofc). But I want a subsidized phone .
Not gonna stop me from getting my hands on that wonder of a phone. Just can't wait for it to hit us here =]

I work for Bell and I can confirm, through HTC's rep, that Bell is getting it. I don't know for sure about Virgin but I would say yes also, maybe with a small delay.
Launch was supposed to be on March 22nd, but there are manufacturing delays and well, no date as of right now.
You guys have any info about the developer edition in Canada ? I'd love to get one of those...

qzcgd said:
I work for Bell and I can confirm, through HTC's rep, that Bell is getting it. I don't know for sure about Virgin but I would say yes also, maybe with a small delay.
Launch was supposed to be on March 22nd, but there are manufacturing delays and well, no date as of right now.
You guys have any info about the developer edition in Canada ? I'd love to get one of those...
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****. That is horrible
I was hoping Virgin Mobile would have this phone next week as i need to signup for a plan next week

twizller said:
****. That is horrible
I was hoping Virgin Mobile would have this phone next week as i need to signup for a plan next week
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Since you always have 14 days to change your mind and take another phone you should be ok