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Hey everyone quick question. If a T-mobile customer in the U.S. were to order an unlocked magic branded with the Vodafone logo, could they still update the phone and such when the U.S. version hits in July. Say that U.S. T-mobile has sent out an update for their phone, could the person who has the Vodafone version update as well? I am debating about ordering an unlocked magic from Timtechs.com to use here in the U.S. and was wondering what were the possible drawbacks, besides 3G, that I may face.
For the same price (or less actually) as the vodaphone imports you can get one of the Google ION phones off of ebay if you're looking for something a little more interesting.
It supports the american 3G bands as well. I paid 589 for mine.
I have debated on ordering one, but am afraid of possibly receiving just a box lol. Actually the area of texas i live at doesn't have 3G yet, I am always running the E - EDGE network so it really doesn't bother me.
sherifone said:
It supports the american 3G bands as well. I paid 589 for mine.
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ahhh! your the one that got that deal! i was looking at the one too ahah i got mine for 517..well havent got it yet..but how is it do you like it? howz the camera? is it dark all the time like the g1?
bobdude5 said:
ahhh! your the one that got that deal! i was looking at the one too ahah i got mine for 517..well havent got it yet..but how is it do you like it? howz the camera? is it dark all the time like the g1?
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Got one for $400 practically new. Camera is decent but no AF and flash suck ball.
or get the one of the ones Rogers is releasing tomorrow in Canada..
Well, would it be the same version that the U.S. should be getting? if i could find a good canadian website that would ship to the U.S. I may be looking into this lol.
I just received a Vodaphone HTC Magic version and I got the phone to work nicely on AT&T with the APN info. But, 3G does not work. It only shows EDGE. Does anyone know how to get the 3G to work? Or, is there a ROM that I can flash to?
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joeyyoung said:
I just received a Vodaphone HTC Magic version and I got the phone to work nicely on AT&T with the APN info. But, 3G does not work. It only shows EDGE. Does anyone know how to get the 3G to work? Or, is there a ROM that I can flash to?
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No since it has different 3G radio.
Rogers version will work since it has the same 3G bands as AT&T (850 and 1900).
Hey, wait....so since it has the same bands as AT&T...would that be the same as T-Mobile? Any one know a good canadian retailer who ships to the U.S.?
First post from my new Rogers magic. Thought I would start a thread for Rogers users to discuss it. So far I'm loving the form factor compared to the g1!
Haven't rooted yet...
Thanks for the report. Could you confirm which umts band it has? Do you think if it will compatible with ATT and TMO-US's networks? Thanks.
lovebeta said:
Thanks for the report. Could you confirm which umts band it has? Do you think if it will compatible with ATT and TMO-US's networks? Thanks.
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Here you go: GSM/GPRS/EDGE Bands: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSPA/UMTS Dual-Band: 850/1900 MHz
Best choice I think would be ATT for the 850 band (I think ATT is on 850?) It will work on Tmobile, but I'm not sure you would have 3G. Obviously being from Canada I'm not as familiar with their spectrums, but I'm sure someone else can confirm.
Same form factor as my HTC Ion.
It will have AT&T 3G since Rogers uses the same bands (850 and 1900).
T-Mobile customers have to wait until the Magic to be launched here in the States.
froesei said:
First post from my new Rogers magic. Thought I would start a thread for Rogers users to discuss it. So far I'm loving the form factor compared to the g1!
Haven't rooted yet...
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Sweet. Just ordered mine on-line, a little disappointing they only had the Black Magic to choose from.
Congrats!
So is there a website for people living in the U.S. to order a Rogers Magic, or is the Rogers branded Magic only available in Canada?
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So is there a website for people living in the U.S. to order a Rogers Magic, or is the Rogers branded Magic only available in Canada?
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Only available in Canada but you could probably find them on eBay or howardforums B/S/T.
Ok, so if you find a retailer that has the Roger's Magic, would it be unlocked or specifically branded to Rogers, to where you would have to get an unlock code?
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Ok, so if you find a retailer that has the Roger's Magic, would it be unlocked or specifically branded to Rogers, to where you would have to get an unlock code?
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I THINK, but don't quote me on this, that if you root the device you should be able to use it on other networks that use the same frequencies. I'm happy to be corrected if that's not the case...
Dang, so I take it...it comes locked specifically for Rogers only? The last thing I want to do is root my $600 phone and probably...knowing my luck...f*ck it up LOL
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Dang, so I take it...it comes locked specifically for Rogers only? The last thing I want to do is root my $600 phone and probably...knowing my luck...f*ck it up LOL
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Just wait... THere will be enterprising ppl to figure out how to unlock it.
Yea I found two websites that sell the unlocked Vodafone version, IMPORTGSM.com and Timtechs.com but do not know how "GOOD" they are. I also just got an email from Rogers.com stating that their phones do come "locked"....ugh T-mobile USA needs to get on this phone already lol.
T-Mobile will release this within the next 3 weeks (end of June or early July). If you want to take advantage of T-Mobile US 3G, wait for the T-Mobile US version or get the Google Ion.
The Rogers HTC Magic is perfect for AT&T users since it has AT&T 3G bands.
Thanks backviet, read your answer over on howards also. I guess i will just have to wait, like you mentioned.....dang!
Yeah, just got mine as well. Things are looking good so far. Only bad spot is, is the exchange activesync that apparently doesnt work (not sure if it's some sort of extension that is needed...there's not much info on it). Anyone else get a problem synching up exchange and getting a "Failed to create the account" Error?
Going to try to solve that later today...
that's strange...i work at a rogers store and as i was playing with a magic today, and i had no problem connecting to our exchange server. you would think that both are running the same software so exchange support would be the same.
we're sold out of magic's so i won't be able to try it out till we get more.
i'm actually thinking about picking one up as well, although i'm not 100% sold on it, it's def. a much nicer device than the dream, at least imo.
Multimedia
Hey guys, just picked up my Magic yesturday from Rogers and loving it. So much fun. Now I am wondering how do we upload pictures and music and videos onto our phone? I plugged it to my PC but unable to access the MicroSD card. Is there a program manager that needs to be downloaded first? Thanks
How do you Root the Rogers ones ?
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How do you Root the Rogers ones ?
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you cant just yet
Got myself one two days ago when it came, its pretty good... only problem i had was the wifi kept hanging a simple Settings -> Wifi -> menu -> advance > wifi sleep policy to "never" fixed it.... other than that its pretty good i plan to start some development on the android platform
http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/04/htc-support-site-reveals-hero-for-sprint-snap-for-alltel/
Seems like I'll be getting a Hero in October
does anyone know if the hero will be coming to AT&T??
I think it's ridiculous that AT&T hasn't picked up ANY android devices yet.
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does anyone know if the hero will be coming to AT&T??
I think it's ridiculous that AT&T hasn't picked up ANY android devices yet.
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Well, didn't it go to the FCC with AT&T bands?
Nahh. I dont think it will be going to ATT!
Its pretty much comfirmed by now that it will be coming to Sprint. Sucks for me but guess ill be moving.
im gonna go sell my HTC Hero which arrives tomorrow and just wait for the us Version.
Yes, 850 & 1900 3G bands were passed for the HERO on the FCC side. How much you wanna bet it goes to Rogers before AT&T. I think that's why it was passed thru the FCC which is fine by me as that model will work fine thru AT&T 3G bands here in the USA.
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Yes, 850 & 1900 3G bands were passed for the HERO on the FCC side. How much you wanna bet it goes to Rogers before AT&T. I think that's why it was passed thru the FCC which is fine by me as that model will work fine thru AT&T 3G bands here in the USA.
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have you checked the new rumors and sources...
There was a link on HTC website support page which stated
"HTC HERO (Sprint)"
dont believe me try this:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/04/htc-support-site-reveals-hero-for-sprint-snap-for-alltel/
i take the FCC approval as better news that its coming to ATT than HTC website showin HTC Hero (Sprint)...that does not show enough evidence that it will release on sprint...typo or or whatever can happen...we just have to wait and see...waiting for more news on the sony xperia x3 snap dragon thats a beast of a android phone.
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i take the FCC approval as better news that its coming to ATT than HTC website showin HTC Hero (Sprint)...that does not show enough evidence that it will release on sprint...typo or or whatever can happen...we just have to wait and see...waiting for more news on the sony xperia x3 snap dragon thats a beast of a android phone.
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There is far more evidence to support a Sprint release than an ATT release. The FCC approval could easily be for an unlocked 3G version of the device, and have nothing to do with ATT. Everyone just assumed it was for ATT. Live in denial all you want, but it's looking more and more likely that the Hero is coming to Sprint. A typo as specific as that is just way to unlikely.
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There is far more evidence to support a Sprint release than an ATT release. The FCC approval could easily be for an unlocked 3G version of the device, and have nothing to do with ATT. Everyone just assumed it was for ATT. Live in denial all you want, but it's looking more and more likely that the Hero is coming to Sprint. A typo as specific as that is just way to unlikely.
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Or maybe, just maybe, it's coming to both. One interesting note is that the FCC document is called NM8_HOT. NM8 is used to identify HTC as it relates to the FCC. I was wondering if HOT might actually be H(er)OT where T is also AT&T's stock symbol. I dunno...
I don't like Sprint but I welcome any Android devices on more carriers. The more widespread it is, the more end users and developers we'll get.
the model that passed the FCC could merely be a version for Canada or Latin America. one of the Omnia's passed the FCC with AT&T's 3G bands, but it turned out that it was bound for Latin America, which I guess uses the same bands as AT&T does. I'd love to get this phone, but idk if I'm willing to pay the full unlocked price from Clove, especially taking into account all the issues I've read and heard about the lagging and such. if it had a better processor, then I'd consider buying an unlocked one, but since it doesn't, I think I'll be waiting for a better Android phone. possibly the Sony Ericsson one
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the model that passed the FCC could merely be a version for Canada
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While I'm eagerly waiting for the HTC Hero to come to Canada, is there any specific reason why the FCC has to file and go over phone destined for Canada or Latin America?
Ok guys the Dcomo SO-01c (japanese xperia) has been successfuly unlocked and working on the U.S 3G network
so you dont have to wait for SE USA or Rogers no more
the bands it uses are
GSM/GPRS/Edge 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS/HSPA bands 1/2/5/6
which is equivalent to 2100/1900/850/800
possibly WCDMA for verizon will work (correct me if i am wrong) which is a big positive on this japanese version , another positive is being available in three colors.
blue
pink
silver
the phone comes with a 16gb memory card
i ordered the pink color for someone and i will order a silver one for myself
so you dont have to wait for SE USA or Rogers no more
i am so glad that this has worked after so many people have doubted that it would work and been told not to waste my money.
i dont want to waste your time explaining my story on how i got the courage to risk trying one and how i found out it will work, but if you want to know i will gladly answer ur questions.
i found a japanese seller that happened to know some english and willing to help and luckily he had an ebay account.
he sold me the phone for $770 including superfast shipping. he said he could sell it to me for $720 on paypal but i chose ebay since it was my first time.
if you can find other sellers good luck . the phone at docomo is around $600 without shipping
i got called by FCC to fill a form and send it to them to be able to get cleared by customs which i did.
when i got the phone all i did was unlock it using ezSEMC and purchased 10 credits from a provider and took about 1 minute to unlock.
http://www.2shared.com/document/F9cAO3Z5/xperia_arc_unlock_instructions.html
it can also be unlocked via entering unlock code provided by cellunlocker.net($8) or other different sites
all you have to do is flash the LT15i rom or the Lt15a rom and you will be able to get the unlock code screen
user morita0107 has unlocked it by entering an unlock code after flashing the LT15 rom on it(same way as x10)
3G popped the moment i put the APN settings which i got help from nimche who has been a great deal of help and support. He has also uploaded the rom for the LT15a which i will flash later on.
download LT15a rom from here (thanks Nimche)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13206058&postcount=110
APN AT&T 3G settings provided by Nimche(show him thanks)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13206058&postcount=110
thank u NIMCHE and also
shutterpark
ferraripassion
morita0107
feel free to ask any questions . (Nimche can also answer if i get busy)
i have an ebay invoice up for grabs if anyone wants it for the black color
and i can contact the seller to prepare one for you if you want silver or pink
i have flashed the device with the LT15a rom and everything is working fine, even the Docomo logo in the begining dissappeared
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-PIVClzP0E
Good job. Finally you got your hand on an arc. at least I am not alone anymore.
When are you getting yours?
Glad it worked out for you! Enjoy your phone!
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Good job. Finally you got your hand on an arc. at least I am not alone anymore.
When are you getting yours?
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i ordered one today, and the seller was so impressive shipping so fast. if he ships today i will get it on monday
batman_112 said:
Glad it worked out for you! Enjoy your phone!
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thank you
but its not mine . i have ordered a silver one
alsaqr said:
i ordered one today, and the seller was so impressive shipping so fast. if he ships today i will get it on monday
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Nice, why I can't see you in IM? You are hiding.... Its nice. So decided to get Midnight blue?
Since I was forced into Midnight blue but now every time I look at my phone I want to die. It is very nice. Clean and wonderful.
alsaqr said:
i ordered one today, and the seller was so impressive shipping so fast. if he ships today i will get it on monday
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I have a question for you. Where do I get ezSEMC? Is there an official website or something? I googled and came up with nothing.
alsaqr said:
thank you
but its not mine . i have ordered a silver one
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Nice choice. I am debating whether to go for one or wait until the Arc successor is released? I am confused!
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Would the 3G work on T-Mobile or is it only for AT&T?
adibaiz said:
Would the 3G work on T-Mobile or is it only for AT&T?
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Only ATT. Tmobile needs 1700 frequency which arc doesn't support and I have not seen any in production. Sorry
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Nice choice. I am debating whether to go for one or wait until the Arc successor is released? I am confused!
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You want Acro? It coming this summer but it is not as thin as arc... @ this point I won't want to lose this thinness to NFC and Infrared but phone is nice.
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Would the 3G work on T-Mobile or is it only for AT&T?
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good question
i have just updated and added the bands that work on it . check back above.
im not sure what t-mobile uses i will check tonight and update if 3G works on tmobile
i guess nimche has answered
switching to att might work since tmobile might dissapear anyway
Man, i hate it, there no unlocked phones that would work on the 1700mhz for T-Mobile....i want to get a new phone but i have nothing to choose from...any suggestions? Thanks.
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good question
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Can you get online when you can. I have to ask some questions. Whenever...
Thanks.
$720 is WAY too much for me.....
I wish I could get it for $600...
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Ok guys the Dcomo SO-01c (japanese xperia) has been successfuly unlocked and working on the U.S 3G network
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This is fantastic news.
However... just one question remains for me:
Bootloader. Are you carrier-locked or free as the air we breathe?
You'll need 1700 mhz to get 3G on Tmobile, which the Arc doesn't have. If you can live with edge only on Tmo then no prob. No manufacturer supports AWS (1700 mhz) unless it's a Tmo US phone.
WCDMA actually refers to GSM band 850/1900 (I think those are the frequencies), regardless it is a GSM distinction not what you think of in the US as CDMA. So no, it won't work on Verizon. Even if it was a CDMA device you'd still have to get VzW to allow it's ESN on their network and that's not easy, not saying it's impossible, just difficult.
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You'll need 1700 mhz to get 3G on Tmobile, which the Arc doesn't have. If you can live with edge only on Tmo then no prob. No manufacturer supports AWS (1700 mhz) unless it's a Tmo US phone.
WCDMA actually refers to GSM band 850/1900 (I think those are the frequencies), regardless it is a GSM distinction not what you think of in the US as CDMA. So no, it won't work on Verizon. Even if it was a CDMA device you'd still have to get VzW to allow it's ESN on their network and that's not easy, not saying it's impossible, just difficult.
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well this phone in japan is not even used with sim card. Docomo uses cdma .
but i connot confirm the verizon thing.
i have tried a tmobile sim and it is only working on Edge, but the speed is OK.
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This is fantastic news.
However... just one question remains for me:
Bootloader. Are you carrier-locked or free as the air we breathe?
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i can't confirm this now , all i have done is network unlocked it and it is working on the AT&T 3G.
now i am flashing the LT15a rom that nimche has uploaded.
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well this phone in japan is not even used with sim card.
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That is entirely incorrect. DoCoMo uses SIM cards on all of their phones.
Wow. Where was the marketing? I really want them to do well but they're off to a pretty bad start already.
$699 US; $899 CAD. Shipping begins Nov. 6th.
US: http://store.shopblackberry.com/store/bbrryus/en_US/pd/productID.328095700/categoryID.66826200
CAN: http://store.shopblackberry.com/store/bbrryus/en_CA/pd/productID.328095700/categoryID.70448700
Pretty bad start indeed. I was so excited for this phone, willing to pay whatever they charged.
Only to find out today that it isn't on Verizon. I'm crushed! I can't leave the carrier given what I pay for my service. I'd be paying double if I switched.
So so sad
Guys, the carriers have yet to announce their plans on carrier branded versions. This is the unlocked version direct from BB. Give it a week, we'll most likely hear announcements then. I hope T-Mobile announces theirs soon, I want to get it on Jump On Demand with $0 down!
I hope you're right, but I don't have a lot of faith given that they could have said "VZW/SPRINT coming soon" or something like that D:
I don't think the direct shop link would say that, though, because that would imply that they'd sell a VZW/ Sprint version in their online store, which is untrue. That's something they work out with the carriers, who do the marketing in exchange for "exclusivity" and all that blah blah. Don't fret, amigo. Just gotta wait a little bit.
Telus has said they are releasing the Priv on November 6th. That seems to be the date everything is happening.
I hope they will sell the unlocked version in white but not limiting the white version to specific carrier like AT&T or Verizon.
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I hope they will sell the unlocked version in white but not limiting the white version to specific carrier like AT&T or Verizon.
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Me too. I'd love to get the white one if I'm able.
****!
i want it but i live in spain, this phone is my dream
paorpas said:
****!
i want it but i live in spain, this phone is my dream
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Does Spain not have GSM networks? Just buy it from BB unlocked, it'll work on any carrier. I'm no expert on European cell providers, but to my knowledge almost all carriers use the GSM standard there.
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Does Spain not have GSM networks? Just buy it from BB unlocked, it'll work on any carrier. I'm no expert on European cell providers, but to my knowledge almost all carriers use the GSM standard there.
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yes, spain work with GSm networks, and priv have all bands, but in spain now i cant pre-order and buy one in USA on spain 1200$ aprox
i wait to in clove.co.uk, expansys.co.uk and others.. but now only sell official blackberry shop
i have nada galaxy note 5 and gear s2, but prolly i will change note to priv
I usually buy my phones unlocked, but if I was to buy it locked from T-Mobile, what would this mean for me? I am somewhat hoping there will be a way to root this, in the future, no matter how vain this hope may be. I'm wondering if it's carrier locked if this will mean it'll be even harder to customize.
Also, it is my experience, carrier-branded phones have a ton of bloatware BS that I don't need installed. I usually wiped and installed a custom rom. If I cannot do so on this phone, will I be able to remove the apps I don't want?