First post from my new Rogers magic. Thought I would start a thread for Rogers users to discuss it. So far I'm loving the form factor compared to the g1!
Haven't rooted yet...
Thanks for the report. Could you confirm which umts band it has? Do you think if it will compatible with ATT and TMO-US's networks? Thanks.
lovebeta said:
Thanks for the report. Could you confirm which umts band it has? Do you think if it will compatible with ATT and TMO-US's networks? Thanks.
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Here you go: GSM/GPRS/EDGE Bands: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSPA/UMTS Dual-Band: 850/1900 MHz
Best choice I think would be ATT for the 850 band (I think ATT is on 850?) It will work on Tmobile, but I'm not sure you would have 3G. Obviously being from Canada I'm not as familiar with their spectrums, but I'm sure someone else can confirm.
Same form factor as my HTC Ion.
It will have AT&T 3G since Rogers uses the same bands (850 and 1900).
T-Mobile customers have to wait until the Magic to be launched here in the States.
froesei said:
First post from my new Rogers magic. Thought I would start a thread for Rogers users to discuss it. So far I'm loving the form factor compared to the g1!
Haven't rooted yet...
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Sweet. Just ordered mine on-line, a little disappointing they only had the Black Magic to choose from.
Congrats!
So is there a website for people living in the U.S. to order a Rogers Magic, or is the Rogers branded Magic only available in Canada?
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So is there a website for people living in the U.S. to order a Rogers Magic, or is the Rogers branded Magic only available in Canada?
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Only available in Canada but you could probably find them on eBay or howardforums B/S/T.
Ok, so if you find a retailer that has the Roger's Magic, would it be unlocked or specifically branded to Rogers, to where you would have to get an unlock code?
redrazr7791 said:
Ok, so if you find a retailer that has the Roger's Magic, would it be unlocked or specifically branded to Rogers, to where you would have to get an unlock code?
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I THINK, but don't quote me on this, that if you root the device you should be able to use it on other networks that use the same frequencies. I'm happy to be corrected if that's not the case...
Dang, so I take it...it comes locked specifically for Rogers only? The last thing I want to do is root my $600 phone and probably...knowing my luck...f*ck it up LOL
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Dang, so I take it...it comes locked specifically for Rogers only? The last thing I want to do is root my $600 phone and probably...knowing my luck...f*ck it up LOL
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Just wait... THere will be enterprising ppl to figure out how to unlock it.
Yea I found two websites that sell the unlocked Vodafone version, IMPORTGSM.com and Timtechs.com but do not know how "GOOD" they are. I also just got an email from Rogers.com stating that their phones do come "locked"....ugh T-mobile USA needs to get on this phone already lol.
T-Mobile will release this within the next 3 weeks (end of June or early July). If you want to take advantage of T-Mobile US 3G, wait for the T-Mobile US version or get the Google Ion.
The Rogers HTC Magic is perfect for AT&T users since it has AT&T 3G bands.
Thanks backviet, read your answer over on howards also. I guess i will just have to wait, like you mentioned.....dang!
Yeah, just got mine as well. Things are looking good so far. Only bad spot is, is the exchange activesync that apparently doesnt work (not sure if it's some sort of extension that is needed...there's not much info on it). Anyone else get a problem synching up exchange and getting a "Failed to create the account" Error?
Going to try to solve that later today...
that's strange...i work at a rogers store and as i was playing with a magic today, and i had no problem connecting to our exchange server. you would think that both are running the same software so exchange support would be the same.
we're sold out of magic's so i won't be able to try it out till we get more.
i'm actually thinking about picking one up as well, although i'm not 100% sold on it, it's def. a much nicer device than the dream, at least imo.
Multimedia
Hey guys, just picked up my Magic yesturday from Rogers and loving it. So much fun. Now I am wondering how do we upload pictures and music and videos onto our phone? I plugged it to my PC but unable to access the MicroSD card. Is there a program manager that needs to be downloaded first? Thanks
How do you Root the Rogers ones ?
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How do you Root the Rogers ones ?
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you cant just yet
Got myself one two days ago when it came, its pretty good... only problem i had was the wifi kept hanging a simple Settings -> Wifi -> menu -> advance > wifi sleep policy to "never" fixed it.... other than that its pretty good i plan to start some development on the android platform
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Tons of articles on it, but here is one anyways:
http://www.i4u.com/article24643.html
My question is: Since I already have the T-Mobile G1 unlocked and using it on Rogers, I wonder if they're either going to support the frequency of 3G that my phone supports, or if the Rogers G1 will have the different frequency. Hope they release more details soon so I know if I should sell this one to grab one that I can actually get 3G on :S
Any thoughts?
I wonder pow much they'll rape yu for data charges.
I used to live in Vancouver, and know what a rip-off data charges are up there.
http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/July2008/21/c6305.html
http://wirelessnorth.ca/2008/10/16/one-things-for-certain-about-the-g-phone/
** this says that rogers has the 1700/2100 AWS spectrum in Canada. Presumably, the Dream and Sapphire (there is no such thing as a "G1" -- this is a TMOBILE-ONLY rebranding of the Dream) launch will coincide with the enablement of this network.
Oh, you'll note how much they paid for AWS.... "In total, Rogers will pay $999,367,000."
heh heh... nearly a billion smackers, but they've got 20 MHz in all areas of the country.
no, rogers is 850/1900. so im hoping i can get it on AT&T 3G. that would be so awesome
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no, rogers is 850/1900. so im hoping i can get it on AT&T 3G. that would be so awesome
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You, I'm sorry to say, are an IDIOT.
If you would actually read the whole thread, you would see that no, Rogers also owns rights to a 20 MHz spread of the 1700/2100 AWS band as well, which they will presumably be launching with the Dream. Why pay a BILLION DOLLARS for something if you're not going to USE IT?
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So June 2nd G1 from T-Mobile can use 3G ?!
what about fido?!
I'm waiting for $30/6GB data plan
its like... almost unlimited
nothings for sure yet...
either rogers will start running the new band that t-mobile runs, or the devices have a different radio compatible to rogers' current 3g band
update: seems like the Canadian HTC Dream will run on AT&T / Rogers 3G bands:
http://www.androidincanada.ca/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/sellsheet1.jpg
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Tons of articles on it, but here is one anyways:
http://www.i4u.com/article24643.html
My question is: Since I already have the T-Mobile G1 unlocked and using it on Rogers, I wonder if they're either going to support the frequency of 3G that my phone supports, or if the Rogers G1 will have the different frequency. Hope they release more details soon so I know if I should sell this one to grab one that I can actually get 3G on :S
Any thoughts?
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the 3G wont work with the tmobile version. different bands for 3G.
Hey everyone quick question. If a T-mobile customer in the U.S. were to order an unlocked magic branded with the Vodafone logo, could they still update the phone and such when the U.S. version hits in July. Say that U.S. T-mobile has sent out an update for their phone, could the person who has the Vodafone version update as well? I am debating about ordering an unlocked magic from Timtechs.com to use here in the U.S. and was wondering what were the possible drawbacks, besides 3G, that I may face.
For the same price (or less actually) as the vodaphone imports you can get one of the Google ION phones off of ebay if you're looking for something a little more interesting.
It supports the american 3G bands as well. I paid 589 for mine.
I have debated on ordering one, but am afraid of possibly receiving just a box lol. Actually the area of texas i live at doesn't have 3G yet, I am always running the E - EDGE network so it really doesn't bother me.
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It supports the american 3G bands as well. I paid 589 for mine.
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ahhh! your the one that got that deal! i was looking at the one too ahah i got mine for 517..well havent got it yet..but how is it do you like it? howz the camera? is it dark all the time like the g1?
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ahhh! your the one that got that deal! i was looking at the one too ahah i got mine for 517..well havent got it yet..but how is it do you like it? howz the camera? is it dark all the time like the g1?
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Got one for $400 practically new. Camera is decent but no AF and flash suck ball.
or get the one of the ones Rogers is releasing tomorrow in Canada..
Well, would it be the same version that the U.S. should be getting? if i could find a good canadian website that would ship to the U.S. I may be looking into this lol.
I just received a Vodaphone HTC Magic version and I got the phone to work nicely on AT&T with the APN info. But, 3G does not work. It only shows EDGE. Does anyone know how to get the 3G to work? Or, is there a ROM that I can flash to?
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I just received a Vodaphone HTC Magic version and I got the phone to work nicely on AT&T with the APN info. But, 3G does not work. It only shows EDGE. Does anyone know how to get the 3G to work? Or, is there a ROM that I can flash to?
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No since it has different 3G radio.
Rogers version will work since it has the same 3G bands as AT&T (850 and 1900).
Hey, wait....so since it has the same bands as AT&T...would that be the same as T-Mobile? Any one know a good canadian retailer who ships to the U.S.?
Just a curious question, is there a possibility that an HTC Sapphire/Magic from Rogers will work on AT&T's network?
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Just a curious question, is there a possibility that an HTC Sapphire/Magic from Rogers will work on AT&T's network?
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I can confirm that it will work on AT&T's 3G coz I'm using it in NYC
so its not locked??? cuz i tried it with the fido sim and it worked....
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I read that pretty much all current HTC GSM devices from Europe and Asia do indeed work on American 3G networks. For the longest time we were tricked into thinking the HTC Touch HD only worked on American Edge networks. However, a recent document released by HTC proves that it does have support for American 3G bands. I am waiting for the HTC hero to come out for ORANGE. At which point I will drop the big bucks to get it early.
Thats incorrect. the Touch HD papers were before the phone was even released, so those specs were never real. 3G networks in europe uses 2100 whereas at&t in the US uses 850/1900 3G bands. Not compatible.
But Rogers in canada uses the same exact bands as at&t usa. So you will have 3G in america. (Afterall Rogers used to be "Rogers at&t"
internet spazed, double posted. Someone plz delete this post.
I'm on Rogers HTC Magic too on AT&T in California, 3G works fine. You just need to sim unlock it and you're good to go.
Same thing. 3G AT&T in California.
can you guys see all paid apps including documents to go by dataviz? I just purchased a unlocked rogers magic and I can only see some paid apps but not all? Can one of you guys check your appstore? Thanks
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can you guys see all paid apps including documents to go by dataviz? I just purchased a unlocked rogers magic and I can only see some paid apps but not all? Can one of you guys check your appstore? Thanks
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It's locked in the ROM it looks like, because not even market enabler lets me see everything.
Can you see "documents to go" by dataviz on your unlocked rogers magic (not rooted)?
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Can you see "documents to go" by dataviz on your unlocked rogers magic (not rooted)?
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Rooted or no. It's not showing up because Rogers locked down the market a bit through the ROM on the phone.
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Rooted or no. It's not showing up because Rogers locked down the market a bit through the ROM on the phone.
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That sucks, so I guess a true sim unlocked phone (not rooted) would have full access to paid apps unless as you are saying rogers has limited the paid apps through the rom.
I was able to purchase copilot today. It seems very strange that I could buy copilot but can't see documents to go.
Is there anyway to remove this lock down on the market? If rogers releases a update to open up the market will our phone get this update?
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That sucks, so I guess a true sim unlocked phone (not rooted) would have full access to paid apps unless as you are saying rogers has limited the paid apps through the rom.
I was able to purchase copilot today. It seems very strange that I could buy copilot but can't see documents to go.
Is there anyway to remove this lock down on the market?
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There's a app called Market Enabler, but it doesn't work.
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There's a app called Market Enabler, but it doesn't work.
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from my understanding market enabler would work if you root. The downside of rooting is than losing access to copyright protected apps.
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from my understanding market enabler would work if you root. The downside of rooting is than losing access to copyright protected apps.
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I tried it when I first rooted and I didn't notice any difference.
sorry to necro a bit on this one.
I just picked up the google ION and I also have AT&T cell service (in southern NJ).
So far I have only been able to use edge connections, I have yet to see 3G kick in. I checked the AT&T coverage map and I should be soaked in 3G so Im curious if there are any settings/tweaks I can apply to activate 3G on the ION.
I can confirm that the ION has the proper radios (850/1900) just like the rogers version of the magic.
I would absolutely love to have 3G enabled on this phone so any info would be greatly appreciated.
For reference, the only APN i have set up is wap.cingular (ive looked at many other lists but this is the only one I got to work with data [edge]... this is the only one tech support from ATT gave me that worked as well).
Thanks!
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I can confirm that the ION has the proper radios (850/1900) just like the rogers version of the magic.
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Thats right, it has the right radio frequencies for EDGE. The Ion has 1700/2100 3G bands and there is absolutely no way to get ATT 3G as the frequencies are hard coded into the hardware. Switch to Tmobile if you want 3G on the Ion as it is essentially a MyTouch 3G
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Thats right, it has the right radio frequencies for EDGE. The Ion has 1700/2100 3G bands and there is absolutely no way to get ATT 3G as the frequencies are hard coded into the hardware. Switch to Tmobile if you want 3G on the Ion as it is essentially a MyTouch 3G
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ahhh, so just having the supported bands is not enough, it has to be on the correct specific radio? ive been googling my ass off about this and thats the first concrete response/piece of information ive seen. many thanks.
in light of that information, would I be able to pick up a rogers magic and have it work with ATT 3G then? From what ive read here it appears that the rogers magic has 850/1900 as its 3G radio, correct?
looks like im going to have to put this ion back on ebay, ugh.
yah if you get a rogers magic then you will be good.
I am aware that the Rogers version of the Magic will work fine with AT&T but I really want an unbranded version. Where can I get the unbranded with 850/1900 3G US frequencies? I am ready to buy either one but want to see prices on the unbranded before I jump to the Rogers. Anyone want to offer suggestions? Anyone got one to sell?
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I am aware that the Rogers version of the Magic will work fine with AT&T but I really want an unbranded version. Where can I get the unbranded with 850/1900 3G US frequencies? I am ready to buy either one but want to see prices on the unbranded before I jump to the Rogers. Anyone want to offer suggestions? Anyone got one to sell?
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I think the Rogers is your only route. Its the one i have; and really if you're gonna be rooting and changing the ROM's theres no way to tell it was ever a Rogers branded device, albiet from the Rogers logo on the back cover.
You can buy new battery covers that will replace the one with the "Roger's" name. If you're in the U.S. ever single T-Mobile store will have a variety of choices to choose from. They are for the myTouch but it's the same case The front of the Roger's phone doesn't say Rogers, instead it says HTC.
I went to the tmo store yesterday and got a "skull" battery cover (for $20!!!) and tried it on before leaving the mall, in seeing that it didnt fit quite right, iI returned it. If you have a Rogers Magic, it wont fit. That is if you're wiling to strip or break the plastic slides jamming it on. Sad. I was looking forward to leeching off the Tmo launch of the less capable myTouch...
Oh no! I had no idea. Why is the mytouch a lesser phone? Does it not have 288mb of ram?
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Oh no! I had no idea. Why is the mytouch a lesser phone? Does it not have 288mb of ram?
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Read around, it only has 192mb of RAM and is not rootable yet either.
not lesser just crippled.
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Oh wow, I just assumed that since it was a new released phone here in the US it would at least be the same specs as the Roger's version. Looks like I assumed wrong
Ok guys the Dcomo SO-01c (japanese xperia) has been successfuly unlocked and working on the U.S 3G network
so you dont have to wait for SE USA or Rogers no more
the bands it uses are
GSM/GPRS/Edge 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS/HSPA bands 1/2/5/6
which is equivalent to 2100/1900/850/800
possibly WCDMA for verizon will work (correct me if i am wrong) which is a big positive on this japanese version , another positive is being available in three colors.
blue
pink
silver
the phone comes with a 16gb memory card
i ordered the pink color for someone and i will order a silver one for myself
so you dont have to wait for SE USA or Rogers no more
i am so glad that this has worked after so many people have doubted that it would work and been told not to waste my money.
i dont want to waste your time explaining my story on how i got the courage to risk trying one and how i found out it will work, but if you want to know i will gladly answer ur questions.
i found a japanese seller that happened to know some english and willing to help and luckily he had an ebay account.
he sold me the phone for $770 including superfast shipping. he said he could sell it to me for $720 on paypal but i chose ebay since it was my first time.
if you can find other sellers good luck . the phone at docomo is around $600 without shipping
i got called by FCC to fill a form and send it to them to be able to get cleared by customs which i did.
when i got the phone all i did was unlock it using ezSEMC and purchased 10 credits from a provider and took about 1 minute to unlock.
http://www.2shared.com/document/F9cAO3Z5/xperia_arc_unlock_instructions.html
it can also be unlocked via entering unlock code provided by cellunlocker.net($8) or other different sites
all you have to do is flash the LT15i rom or the Lt15a rom and you will be able to get the unlock code screen
user morita0107 has unlocked it by entering an unlock code after flashing the LT15 rom on it(same way as x10)
3G popped the moment i put the APN settings which i got help from nimche who has been a great deal of help and support. He has also uploaded the rom for the LT15a which i will flash later on.
download LT15a rom from here (thanks Nimche)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13206058&postcount=110
APN AT&T 3G settings provided by Nimche(show him thanks)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13206058&postcount=110
thank u NIMCHE and also
shutterpark
ferraripassion
morita0107
feel free to ask any questions . (Nimche can also answer if i get busy)
i have an ebay invoice up for grabs if anyone wants it for the black color
and i can contact the seller to prepare one for you if you want silver or pink
i have flashed the device with the LT15a rom and everything is working fine, even the Docomo logo in the begining dissappeared
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-PIVClzP0E
Good job. Finally you got your hand on an arc. at least I am not alone anymore.
When are you getting yours?
Glad it worked out for you! Enjoy your phone!
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Good job. Finally you got your hand on an arc. at least I am not alone anymore.
When are you getting yours?
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i ordered one today, and the seller was so impressive shipping so fast. if he ships today i will get it on monday
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Glad it worked out for you! Enjoy your phone!
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thank you
but its not mine . i have ordered a silver one
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i ordered one today, and the seller was so impressive shipping so fast. if he ships today i will get it on monday
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Nice, why I can't see you in IM? You are hiding.... Its nice. So decided to get Midnight blue?
Since I was forced into Midnight blue but now every time I look at my phone I want to die. It is very nice. Clean and wonderful.
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i ordered one today, and the seller was so impressive shipping so fast. if he ships today i will get it on monday
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I have a question for you. Where do I get ezSEMC? Is there an official website or something? I googled and came up with nothing.
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thank you
but its not mine . i have ordered a silver one
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Nice choice. I am debating whether to go for one or wait until the Arc successor is released? I am confused!
T-Mobile 3G
Would the 3G work on T-Mobile or is it only for AT&T?
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Would the 3G work on T-Mobile or is it only for AT&T?
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Only ATT. Tmobile needs 1700 frequency which arc doesn't support and I have not seen any in production. Sorry
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Nice choice. I am debating whether to go for one or wait until the Arc successor is released? I am confused!
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You want Acro? It coming this summer but it is not as thin as arc... @ this point I won't want to lose this thinness to NFC and Infrared but phone is nice.
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Would the 3G work on T-Mobile or is it only for AT&T?
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good question
i have just updated and added the bands that work on it . check back above.
im not sure what t-mobile uses i will check tonight and update if 3G works on tmobile
i guess nimche has answered
switching to att might work since tmobile might dissapear anyway
Man, i hate it, there no unlocked phones that would work on the 1700mhz for T-Mobile....i want to get a new phone but i have nothing to choose from...any suggestions? Thanks.
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Can you get online when you can. I have to ask some questions. Whenever...
Thanks.
$720 is WAY too much for me.....
I wish I could get it for $600...
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Ok guys the Dcomo SO-01c (japanese xperia) has been successfuly unlocked and working on the U.S 3G network
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This is fantastic news.
However... just one question remains for me:
Bootloader. Are you carrier-locked or free as the air we breathe?
You'll need 1700 mhz to get 3G on Tmobile, which the Arc doesn't have. If you can live with edge only on Tmo then no prob. No manufacturer supports AWS (1700 mhz) unless it's a Tmo US phone.
WCDMA actually refers to GSM band 850/1900 (I think those are the frequencies), regardless it is a GSM distinction not what you think of in the US as CDMA. So no, it won't work on Verizon. Even if it was a CDMA device you'd still have to get VzW to allow it's ESN on their network and that's not easy, not saying it's impossible, just difficult.
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You'll need 1700 mhz to get 3G on Tmobile, which the Arc doesn't have. If you can live with edge only on Tmo then no prob. No manufacturer supports AWS (1700 mhz) unless it's a Tmo US phone.
WCDMA actually refers to GSM band 850/1900 (I think those are the frequencies), regardless it is a GSM distinction not what you think of in the US as CDMA. So no, it won't work on Verizon. Even if it was a CDMA device you'd still have to get VzW to allow it's ESN on their network and that's not easy, not saying it's impossible, just difficult.
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well this phone in japan is not even used with sim card. Docomo uses cdma .
but i connot confirm the verizon thing.
i have tried a tmobile sim and it is only working on Edge, but the speed is OK.
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This is fantastic news.
However... just one question remains for me:
Bootloader. Are you carrier-locked or free as the air we breathe?
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i can't confirm this now , all i have done is network unlocked it and it is working on the AT&T 3G.
now i am flashing the LT15a rom that nimche has uploaded.
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well this phone in japan is not even used with sim card.
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That is entirely incorrect. DoCoMo uses SIM cards on all of their phones.