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So finally we see the S3.
After wandering around several phone shops is it even worth getting an S3 ?
Several things have made me wonder this :
First up the hype of the handset was soooo high, it has been hanging in its own mist for so long with all the leaks and fake leaks e.c.t so for non-fanatics if the hand set does not deliver its going to be one hell of a fall from grace.
Secondly Samsung have gone and done an Apple on use and all the song and dance around the devices launch, it was horrific to watch, all the slogans and buzz words it was like watching a 16 year old's business plan exam.
Then there are all the leaks that have appeared, some good custom designs and some Photoshop trickery and the shoddy fakes of recent times.
Again these have shown what people think Samsung would produce, and some of them where not far off and it was the Photoshop trickery's ones that where the closest and also the least ambitious designs.
Now we know what it looks like and its specs its not stacking up as revolutionary as the S2.
1. Looks like Samsung ran out of ideas and have fused the current Galaxy series and the Nexus series.
2. The thing is a considerable size, in between the Nexus and the Note.
3. Its all shapely ( Yes i know its designed like a pebble ) and curved and shiny, Apple already does this with its handsets so its a clone really and still adopting the single home button its still looking iphone-esqe
4. Its got a Quad core CPU for what ? most people who can afford to buy this handset off contract or on a new contract are not really the kind of customers who will playing Quake on their phone.
5. The S2 already packs enough CPU power to do everything a business user could want, and still play the 3D games.
6. With a bigger screen and a quad-core and delivering HD visuals your battery is going to get raped, and im sorry no matter what people say about less power hungry X/Y/Z the simple fact is if you add more screen and need brightness to see in direct day light your screens going to negate the savings of the improved power consumption of the other components.
7. No battery technology improvement - until this progresses there is no point adding fancy 6 core CPU's and 4k Screens what ever fancy next Tech is about.
Now I love my S2 and I like Samsung products I own 3D TVs and have had several PC screen and Phones and Laptops by them, but i can't get excited about another "Super Phone" it does not offer anything GREAT or SUPER that last years high end hand sets already do.
I skipped the Galaxy Nexus for this very reason, the design is frankly poor its still made of plastic and its filled with stuff your never going to use. . . . "I want to take a photo" why must i talk to my phone and wait for it to decipher what i said to then load the camera ? I can press the bloody button on my screen and get to the app quicker this goes with everything.
Speaking to your phone to do stuff is not faster or more intuitive its a gimmick like NFC and Beam.
"Designed for humans" is frankly the most pathetic tag line I have ever heard to plug a product, and "People don't want to learn technology" ? Im sorry Samsung you have just called your audience stupid in a round about way.
All this event has done for me, is prove that Samsung is trying to go Apple on us.
People are just Sheeping Samsung now instead of Apple.
Call me cynical but im not impressed and will think hard about who to buy my next handset from.
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Wrong forum, tl;dr.
oh!! not again.....
Can we direct general discussion into here please, thanks.
If you have an S6, give us your first impressions and thoughts about the device. Tell us about the display, sound, feel, camera, quality or whatever else comes to mind. If you've had any problems, we'd like to know about that too.
Unboxing pics are encouraged
If you have an S6 Edge, please report in this thread instead:
Post your personal S6E reviews
10 days until I get my s6. Cannot wait!!
Mine comes in today, will return with review and god bless T-Mobile for being so freaking awesome and sending out pre orders early as hell!!
My write up. Think I posted it before you made this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/impression-unprofessional-review-t3068089
I don't have time for anything in depth right now, but I'll write up a quick summary.
I've had the device for 3 days now, and so far I can tell you this is hands down the best phone i have ever had the pleasure of using. I've been with HTC for almost 8 years now, starting with the Evo, then Evo 3D, then HTC One M7. I got fed up with their camera which ultimately made me switch to S6.
I got the black 32GB T-mobile model, and the phone is gorgeous. Build quality is exceptional and feels very solid in my hand. Everything is snappy and responsive. The fingerprint scanner works great, the screen is amazing, and battery life seems reasonable. It's hard to say how the batter will hold up in real world scenarios, since i can't leave the thing sitting for more than 5 minutes right now before i want to look at my new toy again. With extremely heavy use, I've been making it until about 7:00 PM before having to plug it back in.
Being an XDA fanboy, i rooted my phone the moment i got it and removed a lot of the bloatware. T-Mobile did not go overboard with bloatware, but being on custom ROMs for years makes any bloatware make my skin crawl. I was able to root it in minutes, load up Titanium, remove all the unwanted stuff, reboot...and am happy to say i am getting zero FC issues or any other issues for that matter.
The ONLY thing i can say i miss with this phone is the front facing stereo speakers from my HTC One. There's no question that those were better speakers than what the S6 has. Don't get me wrong though, the S6 speaker is sufficiently loud, it just lacks the depth of sound that my HTC One had. This is a sacrifice i will make with open arms though, given the near perfection this device has shown me so far.
In short, GET THIS PHONE! You won't regret it.
Rooting and the possible loss of Samsung Pay!
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I don't have time for anything in depth right now, but I'll write up a quick summary.
I've had the device for 3 days now, and so far I can tell you this is hands down the best phone i have ever had the pleasure of using. I've been with HTC for almost 8 years now, starting with the Evo, then Evo 3D, then HTC One M7. I got fed up with their camera which ultimately made me switch to S6.
I got the black 32GB T-mobile model, and the phone is gorgeous. Build quality is exceptional and feels very solid in my hand. Everything is snappy and responsive. The fingerprint scanner works great, the screen is amazing, and battery life seems reasonable. It's hard to say how the batter will hold up in real world scenarios, since i can't leave the thing sitting for more than 5 minutes right now before i want to look at my new toy again. With extremely heavy use, I've been making it until about 7:00 PM before having to plug it back in.
Being an XDA fanboy, i rooted my phone the moment i got it and removed a lot of the bloatware. T-Mobile did not go overboard with bloatware, but being on custom ROMs for years makes any bloatware make my skin crawl. I was able to root it in minutes, load up Titanium, remove all the unwanted stuff, reboot...and am happy to say i am getting zero FC issues or any other issues for that matter.
The ONLY thing i can say i miss with this phone is the front facing stereo speakers from my HTC One. There's no question that those were better speakers than what the S6 has. Don't get me wrong though, the S6 speaker is sufficiently loud, it just lacks the depth of sound that my HTC One had. This is a sacrifice i will make with open arms though, given the near perfection this device has shown me so far.
In short, GET THIS PHONE! You won't regret it.
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So after you rooted the device, I assume you ticked the Knox.
Is it still possible to use the Samsung Pay feature?
Forgive me for asking, but with the slimmed down TW,
what are the perks of rooting except full backups, titanium backup, custom roms and Xposed yet doesn't work on Samsung lollipop?
If you would answer, that would be much appreciated! I bought the device but sue to the easter holidays in Denmark, I will get it late next week! I would gladly leave my impressions , but for now, if you could help me with the possible Samsung Pay root issue, that would be great!
I'll keep the S5
In my opinion, Samsung has taken several steps backwards. No water resistance, no memory card and no replaceable battery. All three of these omissions are important to me. I'll just keep my S5 until Samsung sees fit to add these features back in a future version.
Apparently they think Apple has good ideas.
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In my opinion, Samsung has taken several steps backwards. No water resistance, no memory card and no replaceable battery. All three of these omissions are important to me. I'll just keep my S5 until Samsung sees fit to add these features back in a future version.
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They won't see fit. This thing will sell like hot cakes.
They found that less than one per cent actually use the battery swapping or expandable memory.
3545alg said:
In my opinion, Samsung has taken several steps backwards. No water resistance, no memory card and no replaceable battery. All three of these omissions are important to me. I'll just keep my S5 until Samsung sees fit to add these features back in a future version.
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Well, Apple sells tens of millions of device agains a premium price. And it works for them, so SS would be stupid not to try to follow their footsteps.
This phone is what so many people where asking for. A good looking. premium built phone that you can show of to your friends for its looks, not its features.
Then again, all those premium materials go wasted as everybody buys a butt ugly case to protect those premium materials.... :silly:
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Well, Apple sells tens of millions of device agains a premium price. And it works for them, so SS would be stupid not to try to follow their footsteps.
This phone is what so many people where asking for. A good looking. premium built phone that you can show of to your friends for its looks, not its features.
Then again, all those premium materials go wasted as everybody buys a butt ugly case to protect those premium materials.... :silly:
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That's a good point. My Spigen tough armor case hides most everything except the screen. What kind of case will protect the Edge model? I'm kind of a butter fingers and I won't carry an expensive phone in my pocket without a good protective case.
I'm still thinking if I should buy a case or not. From my experience, I've never needed one, seen from how long my iPhone 4 lasted. During the time I had it I went out almost every day, most of those days to drink in a bar or at a club, and despite dropping it quite a few times, those particular drops didn't break the glass. The metal sides got dented but that was about it. It's probably because most of the places I go through have smooth floors / carpets and the only times I slapped on a case was when I went hiking or something "adventurous". My iPhone 4 finally died though when my drunk friend grabbed it from me and ran towards the stairs of the club we were at. He stretched out his hand to prevent me from taking it from me and successfully dropped it 3 floors down. Good thing it was almost 4am and the crowd was thinning out so it didn't land on anybody's head (and based on how the iPhone 4 was the first "cement block" phone, that was a huge relief).
My iPhone 4 lived that long despite all it experienced so I'm sure that the S6 Edge, with it's reviews and drop tests will come out of the same experiences more unscathed compared to my iPhone 4.
That being said, I have still been researching on cases and so far I'll either buy a Speck or Ringke case.
... I can't even begin to share how excited I am to get my S6 Edge though. I never thought a Samsung phone would ever catch my eye (which was surprising since I find their TVs / monitors sexy as hell) but I'm sure glad that changed. The last time I got this excited for a phone was when the iPhone 4 was launched.
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I don't have time for anything in depth right now, but I'll write up a quick summary.
I've had the device for 3 days now, and so far I can tell you this is hands down the best phone i have ever had the pleasure of using. I've been with HTC for almost 8 years now, starting with the Evo, then Evo 3D, then HTC One M7. I got fed up with their camera which ultimately made me switch to S6.
I got the black 32GB T-mobile model, and the phone is gorgeous. Build quality is exceptional and feels very solid in my hand. Everything is snappy and responsive. The fingerprint scanner works great, the screen is amazing, and battery life seems reasonable. It's hard to say how the batter will hold up in real world scenarios, since i can't leave the thing sitting for more than 5 minutes right now before i want to look at my new toy again. With extremely heavy use, I've been making it until about 7:00 PM before having to plug it back in.
Being an XDA fanboy, i rooted my phone the moment i got it and removed a lot of the bloatware. T-Mobile did not go overboard with bloatware, but being on custom ROMs for years makes any bloatware make my skin crawl. I was able to root it in minutes, load up Titanium, remove all the unwanted stuff, reboot...and am happy to say i am getting zero FC issues or any other issues for that matter.
The ONLY thing i can say i miss with this phone is the front facing stereo speakers from my HTC One. There's no question that those were better speakers than what the S6 has. Don't get me wrong though, the S6 speaker is sufficiently loud, it just lacks the depth of sound that my HTC One had. This is a sacrifice i will make with open arms though, given the near perfection this device has shown me so far.
In short, GET THIS PHONE! You won't regret it.
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Since you have root, could you try installing something like v4a and let us know how it works please? Does it bug out? Im big on audio (which is why I got the M7, for its awesome audio mods) and really hoping to jump back on the Samsung ship with the S6.
After using an S4 before my M7, I'm a little cautious about Samsung though. Unlike HTC or Moto (Personal experience), their devices usually dont make it the long term, both in terms of hardware and software, so Im hoping Sammy fixed all these with the S6. Will definitely miss the Boomsound speakers, but the M9 seriously disappointed me this time
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Well, Apple sells tens of millions of device agains a premium price. And it works for them, so SS would be stupid not to try to follow their footsteps.
This phone is what so many people where asking for. A good looking. premium built phone that you can show of to your friends for its looks, not its features.
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So by this reasoning, sales and profit margins do not equal a good product. You've just explained why I won't be buying an S6, or an iPhone.
I don't really think people are wanting this, they are just ignorant of smartphones. If they only knew what they could have in their hands.. Like the guy driving the Ford GT around town going 5 under the speed limit, never reaching 3,000 RPM.
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Then again, all those premium materials go wasted as everybody buys a butt ugly case to protect those premium materials.... :silly:
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It is very sad to see such nice-looking phones go to waste. I'm glad I don't use cases!
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So by this reasoning, sales and profit margins do not equal a good product. You've just explained why I won't be buying an S6, or an iPhone.
I don't really think people are wanting this, they are just ignorant of smartphones. If they only knew what they could have in their hands.. Like the guy driving the Ford GT around town going 5 under the speed limit, never reaching 3,000 RPM.
It is very sad to see such nice-looking phones go to waste. I'm glad I don't use cases!
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i'm not saying that profit margins/sales do not equal a good product perse. What I'm saying is that vendors always put sales and profit first, and the product second.
Otherwise LCD would've been DEAD years ago, but no, Plasma dies because the profit margins are lower and people want 'LED tv's because they are the best'.
If you, being a manufacturer notice that your competitor sells 5x more than you having a product that doesn't make sense or isn't the best you can get out there you start thinking how you can get sales up to that level. If you have to create a product with a few concessions then so be it.
In this case YOU care about a removable battery and SD. I've NEVER replaced my battery in 6 years. And I use an SD because I've a 16GB phone. The only reason why I would need a removable battery is after my phone freezes up yet again trying out some custom rom
The same goes for the GT driver, he might just have bought the car for its looks or status.
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i'm not saying that profit margins/sales do not equal a good product perse. What I'm saying is that vendors always put sales and profit first, and the product second.
Otherwise LCD would've been DEAD years ago, but no, Plasma dies because the profit margins are lower and people want 'LED tv's because they are the best'.
If you, being a manufacturer notice that your competitor sells 5x more than you having a product that doesn't make sense or isn't the best you can get out there you start thinking how you can get sales up to that level. If you have to create a product with a few concessions then so be it.
In this case YOU care about a removable battery and SD. I've NEVER replaced my battery in 6 years. And I use an SD because I've a 16GB phone. The only reason why I would need a removable battery is after my phone freezes up yet again trying out some custom rom
The same goes for the GT driver, he might just have bought the car for its looks or status.
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Yes, I am agreeing with you about buying for looks and what manufacturers cater to. But I am posting this in a review thread on a site filled with people who use their phones as they were made to be used. I think they will see what Samsung is obviously doing and be turned off by that. Maybe not, though. Marketing and public opinion is very powerful and even the sharpest sometimes fall into those traps.
What's even better about their tactics is that they offer a larger internal memory at the utmost premium price, like Apple does. This is just a terrific business practice, as you want to make a product that is marketable and easily replaced, as well as forcing people into higher price bracket. I do not blame Samsung for trying to turn a profit, I just am disappointed with their product which is not aimed at the vertical I am in.
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In my opinion, Samsung has taken several steps backwards. No water resistance, no memory card and no replaceable battery. All three of these omissions are important to me. I'll just keep my S5 until Samsung sees fit to add these features back in a future version.
Apparently they think Apple has good ideas.
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Considering they made this drastic change due to a massive drop in sales..I'd say your opinion is wrong =)
And I know we all hate apple..but don't be silly. Of course their ideas work. You don't become the most profitable company in the world because you're making bad choices lol
Apple phones are great, the OS feels like it's from the seventies but the the smoothness is something I wish Samsung could copy more. My iPhone is mostly taking up space in a box though
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Apple phones are great, the OS feels like it's from the seventies but the the smoothness is something I wish Samsung could copy more. My iPhone is mostly taking up space in a box though
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Yeah, I really envy the smoothness, WP is equally smooth
V4A installed without issue. Never needed with this, I'm interested to try it out and see what it can do
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Yeah I'm sure I ticked Knox, but root and the benefits that come with it are way more important to me than Samsung pay. We'll see what happens once they release it...
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If the sales are good for the s6 this year , removable battery and SD card slots will go away for good.
So with the most incredible & ultimate mobile phone you'll ever ever experience (Galaxy S6 & Edge) according to most reviews why did you opt for the M9?
Mine stems from the M8 and the experience I had with it, it was for a large part very positive, from the stunning design & build to the Audio and speedy and great looking ui.
So I now have the M9 a very solid device and yes it resembles the M8 but with that nice and subtle twist. I opted for the M9 because I knew I would continue to get the same joyful experience with some added benefits. I was right and despite the optics not being quite on par they still produce fine shots.
Sense 7 is nice and the theme manager us fantastic.
I just much prefer the HTC audio experience and having the SD card expansion. The build and feel in hand is fantastic. If you look at the M8 development it continues strongly with ROMs .
Yea there are negatives like any other device but for me it was the better choice.
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So with the most incredible & ultimate mobile phone you'll ever ever experience (Galaxy S6 & Edge) according to most reviews why did you opt for the M9?
Mine stems from the M8 and the experience I had with it, it was for a large part very positive, from the stunning design & build to the Audio and speedy and great looking ui.
So I now have the M9 a very solid device and yes it resembles the M8 but with that nice and subtle twist. I opted for the M9 because I knew I would continue to get the same joyful experience with some added benefits. I was right and despite the optics not being quite on par they still produce fine shots.
Sense 7 is nice and the theme manager us fantastic.
I just much prefer the HTC audio experience and having the SD card expansion. The build and feel in hand is fantastic. If you look at the M8 development it continues strongly with ROMs .
Yea there are negatives like any other device but for me it was the better choice.
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90% of my phones have been HTC's from the 6700,6800, touch pro, touch pro 2, Evo/3D/LTE and M7 then i decided to jumpship to t mobile and get a Nexus 5 after a year with my nexus i just missed the HTC Build and software, yes i am one of the few the prefer Sense over Vanilla. i could've haved gotten the M8 for cheaper but unlike most people i preferred to focus on the internal upgrades rather then the external design. Also the M9 will have more support then the M8 (the whole 18 month support thing). only thing that let me down was the main camera but after tweaking it a bit thanks to XDA im satisfied once again.
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90% of my phones have been HTC's from the 6700,6800, touch pro, touch pro 2, Evo/3D/LTE and M7 then i decided to jumpship to t mobile and get a Nexus 5 after a year with my nexus i just missed the HTC Build and software, yes i am one of the few the prefer Sense over Vanilla. i could've haved gotten the M8 for cheaper but unlike most people i preferred to focus on the internal upgrades rather then the external design. Also the M9 will have more support then the M8 (the whole 18 month support thing). only thing that let me down was the main camera but after tweaking it a bit thanks to XDA im satisfied once again.
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That's quite the HTC Collection I have had many devices from Samsung, Sony, Lg, Apple, Now HTC so a broad range.
So the build & Ui is what drew you back?
This is understandable and one of the best skins for android and I had the Nexus 5 because at the time a song and dance was made for vanilla and I thought I would give it a shot. I liked it quite a lot as it transpires but sense has that same zip and retains some nice features.
Thanks for your input & yea with some tweaks the camera is really not that bad (just perhaps not as good as yes the S6 and it should of been better) but for everything that the M9 offers I'm happy
1. Love sense 7
2. Love the m9's design and build
3. Love boomsound
4. Will never get a samsung/iphone ever!!!
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That's quite the HTC Collection I have had many devices from Samsung, Sony, Lg, Apple, Now HTC so a broad range.
So the build & Ui is what drew you back?
This is understandable and one of the best skins for android and I had the Nexus 5 because at the time a song and dance was made for vanilla and I thought I would give it a shot. I liked it quite a lot as it transpires but sense has that same zip and retains some nice features.
Thanks for your input & yea with some tweaks the camera is really not that bad (just perhaps not as good as yes the S6 and it should of been better) but for everything that the M9 offers I'm happy
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i mean ive always loved the metal feel of the phone (LTE/M7), and a dark confession ill make is that i actually flashed blinkfeed onto my Nexus because i missed the UI lol
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1. Love sense 7
2. Love the m9's design and build
3. Love boomsound
4. Will never get a samsung/iphone ever!!!
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I can understand your probable reasons for not wanting a Samsung. However what they have done with the S6 & Edge is great and best that has been produced by Samsung.
However so you take into account its glass & metal trim. I have to mention Sony here for credit as they also use Glass with metal frame, to be fair here if you look at it...
The Z2 is a early 2013 device and has even to date great specs and makes better use of that build being adopted by Samsung. The Z2 has water resistance, retains the SD card, larger battery, but thicker (not a big deal) and front firing speakers.
This is why I can see that reviews are so so good because its Samsung's first ever solid offering.
The M9 is perhaps being evolutionary in approach but what a design it is, and its been refined to a nice level.
I tend to think about the complete picture and yes sacrifices I may have to make in some area's.
But with some reading and experience with the M8 I have to only see that things are early and will get better for the M9 and its flaws. 1 year on and ROM development is strong for the M8 which I'm sure will carry over to the M9, its started already.
So I look at everything and for me, as great as the S6 & Edge are the better choice was the M9.
If you dare living with the best 2015 handheld - get m9 hima and enjoy d'TIME.. again if you're hard-coded by your karma for ****y experience you're departing to any other brand of your choice counter to accomplish what can't be avoided..
Reviews and words are of no avail.. 8)
Honestly thou, I do love the s6 edge design..its best offering from Samsung yet.
Even with the glowing reviews of the s6 and s6 edge, real world usage from actual users differ..3h SOT? Lags and stutters? Not for me
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If you dare living with the best 2015 handheld - get m9 hima and enjoy d'TIME.. again if you're hard-coded by your karma for ****y experience you're departing to any other brand of your choice counter to accomplish what can't be avoided..
Reviews and words are of no avail.. 8)
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It seems like many are to scared to say that the M9 is a very solid device and tbh a fantastic device.
Believe me as I mentioned I have had many phones and this has by far brought me the greatest joy.
there hasn't been one stutter not even a hiccup.
I believe you mentioned about HTC and comparing the difference between it and the smartphone (which it is) but I get what you mean in differentiating between the rest.
Well been with HTC since the TYTN II, Diamond, Sensation, One S and One Mini..
Tho i was thinking hard about another brand this time, but i couldn't be without Sense. Reason why i was thinking for others is that HTC still kinda disappoints me with every phone they bring out, no logic behind some decisions.. Even tho they ask (on elevate) some things, i think they can use the advantage of having direct contact with fanbase like that into better usage.. Which they don't..
Anyway, still went with the M9 since I just couldn't think being without Sense, i'm so used to it that i cannot go with other launchers.. Plus the phones just feel so solid in the hands.. every HTC phone so far i've had, didn't feel cheap in my hands.. Plus with the extra service i can get through elevate this was basically a no-brainer in the end.
Since i've got it now for a week, i can honestly say that thus far, i haven't regret my purchase. :good:
Been needing to vent my thoughts on this phone and choosing to do it here. Maybe a little harsh, but I think objective. My feelings may change if I keep the device long enough.
Why did I opt for the M8.5?
Only reason over M8- Side power button (nothing a good volume wake mod wouldn't solve). I don't see any clear lead the M9 has over the M8 at this time. And the M8 has GPE roms, a plus for me.
Only reason over S6- Dev friendliness- able to unlock bootloader (even an ATT device) at htcdev and I want to support the company's decision to be dev friendly. Also HTC flagships always have a very popular dev community here at xda. We'll see if they're able to hack the S6 bootloader, if so the development community is sure to follow. That will surely get my attention.
Oh and a 3rd reason- I'm a sucker for new tech and I pay for it. I could head to swappa, sell M9/buy M8 and pocket around $200. Thinking about doing it but I've only had the phone for a few days and i'm going to give it at least a week before I make my decision.
Unimpressed with both camera and battery. 810 cpu doesn't feel any faster than 801 (which I've had on 2 devices), but certainly is warmer. All in all, not sure this phone was even an incremental update, but possibly even lateral.
Chronzy said:
Been needing to vent my thoughts on this phone and choosing to do it here. Maybe a little harsh, but I think objective. My feelings may change if I keep the device long enough.
Why did I opt for the M8.5?
Only reason over M8- Side power button (nothing a good volume wake mod wouldn't solve). I don't see any clear lead the M9 has over the M8 at this time. And the M8 has GPE roms, a plus for me.
Only reason over S6- Dev friendliness- able to unlock bootloader (even an ATT device) at htcdev and I want to support the company's decision to be dev friendly. Also HTC flagships always have a very popular dev community here at xda. We'll see if they're able to hack the S6 bootloader, if so the development community is sure to follow. That will surely get my attention.
Oh and a 3rd reason- I'm a sucker for new tech and I pay for it. I could head to swappa, sell M9/buy M8 and pocket around $200. Thinking about doing it but I've only had the phone for a few days and i'm going to give it at least a week before I make my decision.
Unimpressed with both camera and battery. 810 cpu doesn't feel any faster than 801 (which I've had on 2 devices), but certainly is warmer. All in all, not sure this phone was even an incremental update, but possibly even lateral.
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Its cool all views welcome matey and every user will inevitably have a different spin or take on a particular product.
I don't however see it as you do though, HTC improved the camera and agree or disagree but it's far better than that of the M8 (this is just my in my experience, and my own opinion) secondly well Moore's law dictates that processors will double in speed every 18 months, this doesn't mean that with a press of a button you phone will fly you to the moon
Then there is the build and the more time I have spent the more I actually see the difference and the in hand feel is totally different.
The M9 comes now with 3 GB of ram and I have yet to see a stutter or hiccup, the battery life has been on the better side of average for me at least. As for overheating I haven't came across this (perhaps as I have mentioned in other threads, because I don't game) but I do watch a lot of video and the m9 has been fine.
This is just my honest experience, no the camera is perhaps not on par with the S6 for example and should have been better, but I haven't yet taken a photo that has the mentioned heavy grain/ noise or blur. But I no doubt will, like I have done with my Note 4 lol.
Give it time and if your still not happy then best of luck with whatever device you end up with buddy
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Well been with HTC since the TYTN II, Diamond, Sensation, One S and One Mini..
Tho i was thinking hard about another brand this time, but i couldn't be without Sense. Reason why i was thinking for others is that HTC still kinda disappoints me with every phone they bring out, no logic behind some decisions.. Even tho they ask (on elevate) some things, i think they can use the advantage of having direct contact with fanbase like that into better usage.. Which they don't..
Anyway, still went with the M9 since I just couldn't think being without Sense, i'm so used to it that i cannot go with other launchers.. Plus the phones just feel so solid in the hands.. every HTC phone so far i've had, didn't feel cheap in my hands.. Plus with the extra service i can get through elevate this was basically a no-brainer in the end.
Since i've got it now for a week, i can honestly say that thus far, i haven't regret my purchase. :good:
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Unrelated.
What "extra service" do you get from being a member of Elevate?
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Unrelated.
What "extra service" do you get from being a member of Elevate?
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They have giveaways. I got a free case for my m7. I also get to test software builds before the public does.
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I'm a member too. Just don't know how to get in on the good stuff. How did you get to test the software. Inbox
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Its cool all views welcome matey and every user will inevitably have a different spin or take on a particular product.
I don't however see it as you do though, HTC improved the camera and agree or disagree but it's far better than that of the M8 (this is just my in my experience, and my own opinion) secondly well Moore's law dictates that processors will double in speed every 18 months, this doesn't mean that with a press of a button you phone will fly you to the moon
Then there is the build and the more time I have spent the more I actually see the difference and the in hand feel is totally different.
The M9 comes now with 3 GB of ram and I have yet to see a stutter or hiccup, the battery life has been on the better side of average for me at least. As for overheating I haven't came across this (perhaps as I have mentioned in other threads, because I don't game) but I do watch a lot of video and the m9 has been fine.
This is just my honest experience, no the camera is perhaps not on par with the S6 for example and should have been better, but I haven't yet taken a photo that has the mentioned heavy grain/ noise or blur. But I no doubt will, like I have done with my Note 4 lol.
Give it time and if your still not happy then best of luck with whatever device you end up with buddy
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I like your enthusiasm. I'm sure HTC would appreciate your viewpoint through those rose colored glasses as well.
We've definitely had different experiences with the camera. I'm a bit of a shutterbug and if i'm going to take pictures it's probably gonna be with my Canon 6D or Gopro anyway so not really worried about it.
I'm surprised you've owned an M8. Your review seems to come from someone upgrading from an S4 or M7 (and for those of you, this is a worthy upgrade- don't get me wrong). Judged on its own merits the M9 is a great phone. But for anyone that's actually owned an M8 it surprises me that they would see this phone as a worthy successor. I think that's my main point. That's what I want to share with any M8 owners thinking about pulling the trigger on this phone- you're good where your at. Repeat, grass is not greener lol. Don't let the numbers game get you , ie 810 vs 801... 3GB vs 2GB... the user experience is about the same with certain drawbacks I and many others have mentioned.
In defense of HTC, the M7 and M8 were both huge leaps forward vs the previous model so I guess we were due an incremental update. But considering they were struggling to stay afloat not too long ago I'd say their next flagship probably shouldn't be so incremental.
But I appreciate your thoughts Duncan.. I especially have to give you credit for pulling off this statement lol:
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HTC improved the camera and agree or disagree but it's far better than that of the M8 (this is just my in my experience, and my own opinion)
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I fell in love with the M7 and but had it stolen halfway through my contract. My contract ended last week. It was a toss-up between this and the S6 but ultimately I had to have another HTC and despite its flaws, I'm loving it so far. Just hoping HTC pull their fingers out and update the firmware to fix the battery and heat issues.
Chronzy said:
I like your enthusiasm. I'm sure HTC would appreciate your viewpoint through those rose colored glasses as well.
We've definitely had different experiences with the camera. I'm a bit of a shutterbug and if i'm going to take pictures it's probably gonna be with my Canon 6D or Gopro anyway so not really worried about it.
I'm surprised you've owned an M8. Your review seems to come from someone upgrading from an S4 or M7 (and for those of you, this is a worthy upgrade- don't get me wrong). Judged on its own merits the M9 is a great phone. But for anyone that's actually owned an M8 it surprises me that they would see this phone as a worthy successor. I think that's my main point. That's what I want to share with any M8 owners thinking about pulling the trigger on this phone- you're good where your at. Repeat, grass is not greener lol. Don't let the numbers game get you , ie 810 vs 801... 3GB vs 2GB... the user experience is about the same with certain drawbacks I and many others have mentioned.
In defense of HTC, the M7 and M8 were both huge leaps forward vs the previous model so I guess we were due an incremental update. But considering they were struggling to stay afloat not too long ago I'd say their next flagship probably shouldn't be so incremental.
But I appreciate your thoughts Duncan.. I especially have to give you credit for pulling off this statement lol:
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This is a nice retort like it dude and your views are both welcome & appreciated however ultimately we are all humans with varying views and opinions.
Not in reference to you but we are now in a world dominated by sheep and a case of nod and agree seems to be to the liking of many but that kind of political so will move it back on topic.
No your right its not as huge as say the the S5-S6 for example. However Samsung had to make huge sacrifices to produce such.
The Z2 is the better option and please don't have a pop at that shooter (yes it has it flaws to) however its a 2013 device and boy oh boy have I got some amazing shots with it, and it makes better use of its all glass build.
So to the M9 should one upgrade? which the device is meant to be over the M8?
Well its a matter of each individual and their own opinion. For me the M9 is subtle in many ways like the build. I have compared the camera's and the m9 is miles ahead but behind the S6. I am no photography expert though so even someone with a basic grasp will see the M9's camera as extremely flawed. However for my eyes every picture I have taken is clear and without blur or noise.
The latter is obvious to anyone so this is my take so far. I will no doubt see this noise/distortion as I progress with the camera perhaps, like I did with the Note 4 which had amazing reviews, but I after time still got some grainy pics with that one, depends on many factors, the M9's shooter will no doubt need tweaks but for me its better than the M8's but perhaps I need to test further.
Overall I'm content with the M9 and if no one shares my views or opinions of it, you know that is perfectly fine, I under no circumstances wish or need or even want anyone to nod their head and agree with me.
All that matters is it a worthy upgrade for me, yea it is, it has a base storage of 32gb, build is refined to my liking, the camera is fine for me, audio is fantastic, sense 7 and the theme manager, its fast & fluid.
The recently announced M9+ should of perhaps been the the M9 as it has many upgrade additions like the 5.2" qhd, fingerprint scanner etc.
You would have to be a die-hard HTC fan to buy it ahead of S6 and the impending G4 and Z4.
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You would have to be a die-hard HTC fan to buy it ahead of S6 and the impending G4 and Z4.
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Why should we all be like sheep though? Let's all buy the S6 or Z4 or the G4.
Can people not accept that your neither a fanboy or die hard HTC fan.
The S6 is not without compromise nor will the G4 be or the Z4.
We all like what we like and I happen to enjoy the M9 (Its far from perfect and it has its flaws that's for sure).
But can buy what we want without a label being attached, that's what makes the human race diverse "we have our own minds and therefore opinions" and able to make decisions based on these.
And if we are happy with those Decisions and freedom of choices then that's all that matters.
I'm going to throw out a few brief observations here for those who are thinking about the S6 Edge which I picked up at Tmo. I'm currently running that device along with the Moto Maxx.
I missed that bigger battery the day after I bought the Edge and it died. It took me a second to figure out what had happened, I had kinda forgot to pay much attention to the battery symbol... Long story short I've become accustomed to making two days with the Maxx and the Edge will give you one if you don't turn it on, otherwise it will be less. lol No, I'm not kidding. Buy into the Edge and you will likely need to plug in during the day. And yes I've read the reports of people who are doing much better than that but don't by in. My guess is lighter users will make the day most days, medium users will need to plug in somewhere for a few (thank you fast charging) or barely scrape by, heavy users will hang themselves.
The S6 display just flat looks better. I've had the phone since release which is only a week but in that time I've had 3 people comment on the display and no one has ever said one word about the display on the max to me and I've had it since they rolled it out in Brazil. It isn't just the curve, the display is stellar. Easily the best I have seen on a smartphone.
Another thing that flat works better is the camera. Pictures pretty much turn out on the S6 without any effort whatsoever. The camera opens up instantly and can take pictures faster than a person can click. Those pictures stand a ridiculously high chance of being in focus with reasonable color balance and the like. Just excellent, if it wasn't nearly as good as it is it will still be a big improvement over the Maxx.
The performance in the GUI during daily use is very similar to the Maxx. In fact despite what you might read the S6 will hiccup occasionally in the GUI, more so than the Maxx. Yes, I'm saying the Maxx is the smoother device as I type this. I don't believe this will hold out over time as I've owned all but the S5 among the Galaxy devices and they all hugely benefited from getting on the debloated roms.
They say Touchwiz has been slimmed down and it turns out this means that TW has 4 more installed applications than it did on the S5. When you're using the word hundreds to quantify the total number of system apps it cant be good and so it is here, the whole slimmed down Touchwiz thing Sammy has been selling, ummm, nah. It is improved and I actually left it on my phone for 45 minutes or so but honestly the only reason TW doesn't get kicked to the curb by a user is they don't know better.
If you made it this far you've likely read about the nice build quality and this is no lie, sitting next to a cool-aid device it looks to be the more expensive piece of hardware. Sitting next to our phone it evokes a different response to me because they don't appear to be on the same mission. The Edge is like a beautiful woman that you want to get your hands on but you may not want to live with her every day. She is pretty as can be but a little fragile and she has some traits like sides which are so thin they can make your fingers sore before a youtube video is finished which detract from her beauty. The Maxx on the other hand isn't as pretty but she is not so bad either and a lot easier to live with. You might describe it as the woman you want to marry.
So those are my impressions of what stands out enough to mention after a week, obviously this is a lot of subjective information and I think that's the most important thing that comes to my mind when I think of these devices. I still have the device before the Maxx sitting here and it is exactly a year old. Going through the motions of doing its thing in an average day it performs subjectivly every bit as good as the Maxx does. Or the S6. I'm thinking the days of getting a new phone and thinking "Wow! OMG!! This is so much better!" are over. I'm a pathetic old man now and I can afford to play because I don't have debt and almost no bills. I'm thinking the younger version of myself that couldn't say the same would skip the S6.
I'm on the fence on the Edge, I have a few days left to either turn it in and move forward with the Maxx until the fall releases or keep it. I have to give cred to Motorola for producing a device which can stand in and punch with Sammy on their next gen device.
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I'm going to throw out a few brief observations here for those who are thinking about the S6 Edge which I picked up at Tmo. I'm currently running that device along with the Moto Maxx.
I missed that bigger battery the day after I bought the Edge and it died. It took me a second to figure out what had happened, I had kinda forgot to pay much attention to the battery symbol... Long story short I've become accustomed to making two days with the Maxx and the Edge will give you one if you don't turn it on, otherwise it will be less. lol No, I'm not kidding. Buy into the Edge and you will likely need to plug in during the day. And yes I've read the reports of people who are doing much better than that but don't by in. My guess is lighter users will make the day most days, medium users will need to plug in somewhere for a few (thank you fast charging) or barely scrape by, heavy users will hang themselves.
The S6 display just flat looks better. I've had the phone since release which is only a week but in that time I've had 3 people comment on the display and no one has ever said one word about the display on the max to me and I've had it since they rolled it out in Brazil. It isn't just the curve, the display is stellar. Easily the best I have seen on a smartphone.
Another thing that flat works better is the camera. Pictures pretty much turn out on the S6 without any effort whatsoever. The camera opens up instantly and can take pictures faster than a person can click. Those pictures stand a ridiculously high chance of being in focus with reasonable color balance and the like. Just excellent, if it wasn't nearly as good as it is it will still be a big improvement over the Maxx.
The performance in the GUI during daily use is very similar to the Maxx. In fact despite what you might read the S6 will hiccup occasionally in the GUI, more so than the Maxx. Yes, I'm saying the Maxx is the smoother device as I type this. I don't believe this will hold out over time as I've owned all but the S5 among the Galaxy devices and they all hugely benefited from getting on the debloated roms.
They say Touchwiz has been slimmed down and it turns out this means that TW has 4 more installed applications than it did on the S5. When you're using the word hundreds to quantify the total number of system apps it cant be good and so it is here, the whole slimmed down Touchwiz thing Sammy has been selling, ummm, nah. It is improved and I actually left it on my phone for 45 minutes or so but honestly the only reason TW doesn't get kicked to the curb by a user is they don't know better.
If you made it this far you've likely read about the nice build quality and this is no lie, sitting next to a cool-aid device it looks to be the more expensive piece of hardware. Sitting next to our phone it evokes a different response to me because they don't appear to be on the same mission. The Edge is like a beautiful woman that you want to get your hands on but you may not want to live with her every day. She is pretty as can be but a little fragile and she has some traits like sides which are so thin they can make your fingers sore before a youtube video is finished which detract from her beauty. The Maxx on the other hand isn't as pretty but she is not so bad either and a lot easier to live with. You might describe it as the woman you want to marry.
So those are my impressions of what stands out enough to mention after a week, obviously this is a lot of subjective information and I think that's the most important thing that comes to my mind when I think of these devices. I still have the device before the Maxx sitting here and it is exactly a year old. Going through the motions of doing its thing in an average day it performs subjectivly every bit as good as the Maxx does. Or the S6. I'm thinking the days of getting a new phone and thinking "Wow! OMG!! This is so much better!" are over. I'm a pathetic old man now and I can afford to play because I don't have debt and almost no bills. I'm thinking the younger version of myself that couldn't say the same would skip the S6.
I'm on the fence on the Edge, I have a few days left to either turn it in and move forward with the Maxx until the fall releases or keep it. I have to give cred to Motorola for producing a device which can stand in and punch with Sammy on their next gen device.
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Thanks for the write up. I've been curious about this phone. I too think I am too used to the battery. My only two complaints about the Turbo is the wifi and the camera. I don't think they are big enough to go back to TW though.
Thank you for your feedback, I personally don't envy anything on s6, specs wise, but i like the glass back, like you said, there are for different kind of audience.
Tldr;
I have both the Turbo and and S6 Edge. They are very different phones.
It is silly comparing them, as it is very subjective and depends on your individual needs...
Turbo has much better battery.
The S6 has a better screen (by far), better camera, and is definitely faster. But has TW and MUCH shorter battery life.
No right / wrong answer.
So here's why I'm going with the s6 over the turbo. And it might sound silly but the ecosystem is one of my top reasons. If I want a, let's say case for my turbo. You will find a few. Most from cheap company's and it might be some what attractive. If you want it for the s6. Skys the limit. Walk in to best buy and have a whole section of the store just for the s6. I don't even think you could find something for the turbo at best buy. There are other reasons of course but this is one no one addresses.
And honestly. The build quality of the turbo is not that good. The cheap painted plastic around the rim. The loss power and volume buttons. The moto symbol that is just held in by some weak adhesive. The creaking back cover. I WANTED to love that phone. I just couldn't =(
I was not trying to compare the phones per se, just offering some observations for those holding one in the hand and thinking about making a move to the other. I find these things interesting because these kinds of thoughts from an ordinary user about the things that stand out are a different angle than that from a pro review.
I didn't mention the ecosystem because I think most people who surf this site and are considering trading a fairly new phone for the next thing are probably sluts when it comes to phones (yes, count me in) and they already know that the S6 will have a lot of available accessories and developer support.
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I was not trying to compare the phones per se, just offering some observations for those holding one in the hand and thinking about making a move to the other. I find these things interesting because these kinds of thoughts from an ordinary user about the things that stand out are a different angle than that from a pro review.
I didn't mention the ecosystem because I think most people who surf this site and are considering trading a fairly new phone for the next thing are probably sluts when it comes to phones (yes, count me in) and they already know that the S6 will have a lot of available accessories and developer support.
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Id you buy Verizon version no, and you never have a aosp rom in exynos device, be aware of that.
No, an ASOP rom may come, one did for the exynos S4 variant as an example, it just wont be very good lol This is one of the good things about having a phone like the S6, Sammy sells so many that the user base is huge and the development for the galaxy line has been very solid for each of the iterations. I don't think there is any reason to expect otherwise here? Still I agree with your point anyways, AOSP if it comes at all will be a long ways out and probably not as good as the stock based roms when not on snapdragon.
I'm not sure what you're asking or saying about Verizon? If you're asking if I am using them, no. I'm on Tmo, I own the Maxx and was using it on both AT&T and Tmo. Its unlikely I would use Verizon and certainly I would not buy one of their locked bootloader devices. I think the folks that read here are for the most part already aware that Verizon and AT&T S6s have locked bootloaders.
always same, no change, samsung no change
Pika71 said:
always same, no change, samsung no change
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Parroting.
Even I recognize the changes and I dislike Samsung.
krabman said:
No, an ASOP rom may come, one did for the exynos S4 variant as an example, it just wont be very good lol This is one of the good things about having a phone like the S6, Sammy sells so many that the user base is huge and the development for the galaxy line has been very solid for each of the iterations. I don't think there is any reason to expect otherwise here? Still I agree with your point anyways, AOSP if it comes at all will be a long ways out and probably not as good as the stock based roms when not on snapdragon.
I'm not sure what you're asking or saying about Verizon? If you're asking if I am using them, no. I'm on Tmo, I own the Maxx and was using it on both AT&T and Tmo. Its unlikely I would use Verizon and certainly I would not buy one of their locked bootloader devices. I think the folks that read here are for the most part already aware that Verizon and AT&T S6s have locked bootloaders.
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cm oficial drop support of exynos variants, never have fully working rom, s5 exynos dont have, note 4 exynos dont have too, i doubt s6 exynos will have a full working aosp
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cm oficial drop support of exynos variants, never have fully working rom, s5 exynos dont have, note 4 exynos dont have too, i doubt s6 exynos will have a full working aosp
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CM isn't the only game out there. Don't get confused with CM vs. AOSP.
I don't get the hype for S6 or S6 Edge with the internet people when some of my customers brought their 3-4 days old s6 edge to trade with Droid Turbo just because of its good battery life and high end specs. We don't actually need to use cases for the Droid Turbo as we need it for any samsung or htc flagship. Our phones are for everyday usage, not made to put gently on the table.
ps : any phone with its manufacturer software will run miles better than any Cyanogenmod release official and unofficial.
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cm oficial drop support of exynos variants, never have fully working rom, s5 exynos dont have, note 4 exynos dont have too, i doubt s6 exynos will have a full working aosp
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I haven't been on Exynos since an S4 I imported in from South America to give an octa core a try. No question the Snapdragon variants of the S4 had an easier row to hoe and we on the Exynos saw much less development although more than the average phone. I did not say it will, I said "it may" and you could be right. It isn't really meaningful to this conversation but I doubt I would install an AOSP rom if it were available. I always had far better luck with stock based roms on the Galaxy devices. Faster, more stable, less bugs, etc.
krabman said:
I'm going to throw out a few brief observations here for those who are thinking about the S6 Edge which I picked up at Tmo. I'm currently running that device along with the Moto Maxx.
I missed that bigger battery the day after I bought the Edge and it died. It took me a second to figure out what had happened, I had kinda forgot to pay much attention to the battery symbol... Long story short I've become accustomed to making two days with the Maxx and the Edge will give you one if you don't turn it on, otherwise it will be less. lol No, I'm not kidding. Buy into the Edge and you will likely need to plug in during the day. And yes I've read the reports of people who are doing much better than that but don't by in. My guess is lighter users will make the day most days, medium users will need to plug in somewhere for a few (thank you fast charging) or barely scrape by, heavy users will hang themselves.
The S6 display just flat looks better. I've had the phone since release which is only a week but in that time I've had 3 people comment on the display and no one has ever said one word about the display on the max to me and I've had it since they rolled it out in Brazil. It isn't just the curve, the display is stellar. Easily the best I have seen on a smartphone.
Another thing that flat works better is the camera. Pictures pretty much turn out on the S6 without any effort whatsoever. The camera opens up instantly and can take pictures faster than a person can click. Those pictures stand a ridiculously high chance of being in focus with reasonable color balance and the like. Just excellent, if it wasn't nearly as good as it is it will still be a big improvement over the Maxx.
The performance in the GUI during daily use is very similar to the Maxx. In fact despite what you might read the S6 will hiccup occasionally in the GUI, more so than the Maxx. Yes, I'm saying the Maxx is the smoother device as I type this. I don't believe this will hold out over time as I've owned all but the S5 among the Galaxy devices and they all hugely benefited from getting on the debloated roms.
They say Touchwiz has been slimmed down and it turns out this means that TW has 4 more installed applications than it did on the S5. When you're using the word hundreds to quantify the total number of system apps it cant be good and so it is here, the whole slimmed down Touchwiz thing Sammy has been selling, ummm, nah. It is improved and I actually left it on my phone for 45 minutes or so but honestly the only reason TW doesn't get kicked to the curb by a user is they don't know better.
If you made it this far you've likely read about the nice build quality and this is no lie, sitting next to a cool-aid device it looks to be the more expensive piece of hardware. Sitting next to our phone it evokes a different response to me because they don't appear to be on the same mission. The Edge is like a beautiful woman that you want to get your hands on but you may not want to live with her every day. She is pretty as can be but a little fragile and she has some traits like sides which are so thin they can make your fingers sore before a youtube video is finished which detract from her beauty. The Maxx on the other hand isn't as pretty but she is not so bad either and a lot easier to live with. You might describe it as the woman you want to marry.
So those are my impressions of what stands out enough to mention after a week, obviously this is a lot of subjective information and I think that's the most important thing that comes to my mind when I think of these devices. I still have the device before the Maxx sitting here and it is exactly a year old. Going through the motions of doing its thing in an average day it performs subjectivly every bit as good as the Maxx does. Or the S6. I'm thinking the days of getting a new phone and thinking "Wow! OMG!! This is so much better!" are over. I'm a pathetic old man now and I can afford to play because I don't have debt and almost no bills. I'm thinking the younger version of myself that couldn't say the same would skip the S6.
I'm on the fence on the Edge, I have a few days left to either turn it in and move forward with the Maxx until the fall releases or keep it. I have to give cred to Motorola for producing a device which can stand in and punch with Sammy on their next gen device.
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Honestly iI will stay with turbo until 2nd gen of turbo comes out. I have faith Motorola will make it much better than galaxy s6 and the ffirst gen. Also the s6 and s6 edge both use Samsung's own cpu which is not as supported as a Snapdragon.
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Honestly iI will stay with turbo until 2nd gen of turbo comes out. I have faith Motorola will make it much better than galaxy s6 and the ffirst gen. Also the s6 and s6 edge both use Samsung's own cpu which is not as supported as a Snapdragon.
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Not supported as a Snapdragon means little on Verizon. It doesn't make a difference if you cannot root and unlock the bootloader.
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Not supported as a Snapdragon means little on Verizon. It doesn't make a difference if you cannot root and unlock the bootloader.
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I should've been more specific. What I was saying is that most app developers develop for qualcomm snapdragon line of processors. The s6 should face the same problem as the nexus 9 because they use lesser used chip which gives limited apps. GTA won't play on nexus 9 because of chip and either developers will have to put effort into making exynos versions of their apps(which is their choice and if they will benefit will decide this)or stay in the snapdragon highway and not risk/waste anyhting.
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I should've been more specific. What I was saying is that most app developers develop for qualcomm snapdragon line of processors. The s6 should face the same problem as the nexus 9 because they use lesser used chip which gives limited apps. GTA won't play on nexus 9 because of chip and either developers will have to put effort into making exynos versions of their apps(which is their choice and if they will benefit will decide this)or stay in the snapdragon highway and not risk/waste anyhting.
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Most app developers don't target a specific CPU unless its a root app, and then that just refers back to my original comment.
I doubt there is anything specific stopping GTA from working on the Nexus9. Did you try sideloading it?
Or are you referring to something like this?
http://androidforums.com/threads/nexus-9-bugs-app-compatibility-issues-discussion.879365/
http://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus5/comments/2mmz66/question_gta_vice_city_and_lollipop/
That appears to be more of a Lollipop issue to me, considering that the Nexus 7 was also reported not to work in that thread and a couple other snapdragon devices were mentioned in the second.
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Most app developers don't target a specific CPU unless its a root app, and then that just refers back to my original comment.
I doubt there is anything specific stopping GTA from working on the Nexus9. Did you try sideloading it?
Or are you referring to something like this?
That appears to be more of a Lollipop issue to me, considering that the Nexus 7 was also reported not to work in that thread and a couple other snapdragon devices were
mentioned in the second.
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No vice city does work for me but San Andrea's doesn't and many reviews on either the s6 or n9 state that app compatibility is ok but a few won't work because of different processors. Most app developers develop for snapdragon cpus as exynos has only reached certain areas and is not the default cpu in the galaxy line.. You can search reviews and many users experience this problem.
I feel like we will never agree on this, but I will drop this off here for your perusal:
https://www.google.com/webhp?source...&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=youtube exynos san andreas
First of all let me make it clear I. Love. This. Phone. No question this is the best - functionality wise - phone I have had in more than 10 years. Because it is my daily driver and the attention grabber everywhere I went (until the S6 edge came out) I am even more disappointed/disturbed by Samsung treating the phone, and those that really like, as disposable.
Because Samsung billed this as a concept phone there is virtually ZERO real development for the edge panel since it was announced last September. The bad part is that Samsung themselves could have made useful panels but instead they dropped the ball. How many months more will we see that the panel store is "coming soon"? Instead of exploiting this feature and keeping us engaged it is now an exercise in futility hitting the download button to see the same panels or virtually useless ones that are not in a language you don't understand or is of zero use.
Then there s the ROM aspect. I used to do more flashing that Barry Allen back in the day. Have you seen the number of fully functional ROMS for this phone. It is slim to none. It seems Sammy's lack of passion to push the phone has pushed chefs to other devices. This is squarely on Samsung.
Lastly, I am an accessory fiend - admittedly. Finding GOOD accessories and add-on's to this phone have be like finding the Lost Ark of the Covenant. From buying 9 different screen protectors that promise to protect the actual edge - that don't or looking for a functional case almost everything is a chore or a serious waiting game. they have sucked the fun of really getting into this device - for me at least.
If this new article is to be believed they are even going to cut down on some of the specs from the Note 5 equivalent: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ge-2-features-leaked/articleshow/47204012.cms. I will not believe it until I see it but I do not feel good about the next iteration of the phone either. When you consider that there is no removable battery in the S6 nor a micro slot either things do not look good.
If things go as the article states and I see that the marketing and exposure for the Note Edge 2 or anemic I will stick with what I have now. Again, I love this phone which makes the stagnant interaction on this board and in products tick me off more. This could have easily been avoided.
I totally agree with everything you have said. I was so excited about the Galaxy Edge announcement! A phone with two screens and great specs. I still love my phone but like you I am extremely disappointed at the lack of development for our devices. I too used to flash a new ROM every few weeks but I can't. I also can't believe Samsung took their eye of the ball and stopped giving us Edge owners (people who put faith in their 'concept' design)exclusives or even panels (which was promised).
I have made a few posts in the DEV section asking why we have so few ROMS/tweaks etc. Apparently it is to do with not having the source code..even though it has been released..so I'm not sure if this is the real reason etc
I kinda agree as well. This phone has been rather dissapointing to me. Not because of lack of potential but lack of support and development. This phone had the potential to be epic but it is now shadowed by the over hyped s6 edge. Oh well. Im guessing because the s6 edge has had a great bit of responsiveness and praise the next note edge will be better supported. I kinda am torn with the idea of a smaller screen but 5.5 is still a good size screen.
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I absolutely disagree entirely
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Let me explain. ...
It's supposed to be a useful accessory. .... not a full blown new gadget.
When u look at it in that context it is incredible.
Just the
1) nightclock
2) edge board as the app tray
3) quicksetting shortcut functions
4) a second screen when dealing with quick functions such as music player etc
Are enough to make this worthwhile as adding tangible beneficial functionality.
Anything else is a bonus and won't really add much more utility. Yes it would be nice but won't add that much.
I'd bought this after some indecision as was pretty sure it wouldn't get developer support given the limited numbers. Took the plunge because the edge was just too enticing.
Couple of months on, am quite happy overall. The phone itself, as everyone agrees, is fantastic. Plus,
1. Lots of cases now, from flip to non flip. Range covers the edge as well as leaving it open.
2. Screen protectors have been a pain, especially the lack of glass ones. The plastic ones, however, do cover the full edge, and are quite smooth. You have to wait for a week or so for all the bubbles to vanish and the surface to really smoothen out, though.
3. ROMS are in short supply, but as if now, find it is responsive enough without too many tweaks. A lot of the mods for Note 4 work quite well, which eases the pain.
4. The Samsung panel store started well and then died out. But there are quite a few very useful productivity panels coming on play store now. I particularly like the quick settings and quick contacts ones. Still some shortage of content based feeds etc, but don't think that will be resolved.
So some minuses, but overall still very good. No thanks to Samsung, of course (which is the point of the OP, I suppose) ☺
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arbit12 said:
I'd bought this after some indecision as was pretty sure it wouldn't get developer support given the limited numbers. Took the plunge because the edge was just too enticing.
Couple of months on, am quite happy overall. The phone itself, as everyone agrees, is fantastic. Plus,
1. Lots of cases now, from flip to non flip. Range covers the edge as well as leaving it open.
2. Screen protectors have been a pain, especially the lack of glass ones. The plastic ones, however, do cover the full edge, and are quite smooth. You have to wait for a week or so for all the bubbles to vanish and the surface to really smoothen out, though.
3. ROMS are in short supply, but as if now, find it is responsive enough without too many tweaks. A lot of the mods for Note 4 work quite well, which eases the pain.
4. The Samsung panel store started well and then died out. But there are quite a few very useful productivity panels coming on play store now. I particularly like the quick settings and quick contacts ones. Still some shortage of content based feeds etc, but don't think that will be resolved.
So some minuses, but overall still very good. No thanks to Samsung, of course (which is the point of the OP, I suppose) ☺
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1) I agree about the range of cases but prefer the a flip that covers the edge. ...
Imo the protection is more important than the visibility.... 99% of the time u need the edge only. ... there is no problem with leaving the flip open. Eg when using as a night clock.
2) I think screen protectors are pointless. ...especially if u have a flip case.
Any protector inevitably takes away from usability.
I agree to an extent with the op. I guess one of the things I am most disappointed about is that ever since lollipop came out for our edge phones, the main features that were HUGE turn on to the edge screen have been removed. Case in point, the camera button that was on the edge screen is now off to the side of the phone. Even what little they offered in the edge screen in kit Kat has been reduced even further with lollipop. I truly feel that as great as this phone is, I should have stayed with my note 4. The edge was seriously overhyped to bring us in and then dropped like raw egg on concrete.
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I love love this phone. When I heard that S6 was to be edged both sides I was very disappointed in what they did to that generation. No removable battery and slot for SD card , I feel like I'm look I ng at a CrApple phone. If this is the way Samsung is going, I'll keep this phone till it dies and look elsewhere.
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I agree to an extent with the op. I guess one of the things I am most disappointed about is that ever since lollipop came out for our edge phones, the main features that were HUGE turn on to the edge screen have been removed. Case in point, the camera button that was on the edge screen is now off to the side of the phone. Even what little they offered in the edge screen in kit Kat has been reduced even further with lollipop. I truly feel that as great as this phone is, I should have stayed with my note 4. The edge was seriously overhyped to bring us in and then dropped like raw egg on concrete.
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Am wondering whether to upgrade. Could you mention any other negative changes? Thanks.
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Am wondering whether to upgrade. Could you mention any other negative changes? Thanks.
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If u like playing around with ROMS etc... then don't buy it.
If u r not fussed by that sort of stuff. ... there isn't a better phone in the world.
Should have clarified. I already have the edge. Wondering whether to upgrade to Lollipop
sand1303 said:
I kinda agree as well. This phone has been rather dissapointing to me. Not because of lack of potential but lack of support and development. This phone had the potential to be epic but it is now shadowed by the over hyped s6 edge. Oh well. Im guessing because the s6 edge has had a great bit of responsiveness and praise the next note edge will be better supported. I kinda am torn with the idea of a smaller screen but 5.5 is still a good size screen.
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I think that for the most part the disappointment comes at the hands of Samsung. sure, would I love for the battery to have been bigger and give me a solid 6 hours screen time...of course. but from form factor, wow factor, functionality standpoint this phone is awesome. I just feel that by abandoning it - at launch - they left a lot on the table.
djsbad said:
I agree to an extent with the op. I guess one of the things I am most disappointed about is that ever since lollipop came out for our edge phones, the main features that were HUGE turn on to the edge screen have been removed. Case in point, the camera button that was on the edge screen is now off to the side of the phone. Even what little they offered in the edge screen in kit Kat has been reduced even further with lollipop. I truly feel that as great as this phone is, I should have stayed with my note 4. The edge was seriously overhyped to bring us in and then dropped like raw egg on concrete.
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I, personally, feel I got everything I expected and more. Especially from a superficial perspective. This phone turns heads -and go a few numbers for me :good: based on people not knowing what the heck it was. I actually got 6 people to buy the phone base on my conversation with them about all its features. With lollipop coming so late/ changing accustomed to features, the panel store sucking and limited to no development I can see how "overhyped" could be applied but for me its only from the standpoint that my expectation level was higher from a Samsung support and development standpoint.
countryg1rl said:
I love love this phone. When I heard that S6 was to be edged both sides I was very disappointed in what they did to that generation. No removable battery and slot for SD card , I feel like I'm look I ng at a CrApple phone. If this is the way Samsung is going, I'll keep this phone till it dies and look elsewhere.
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Amen brother! I saw the S6 in silver and was impressed by the look of it. when I saw the emasculated features of the side panels the first thing I thought of was: they are going to do something monumentally horrible to the note edge 2. Then I read the article I posted. I have not rooted the phone because, for the most part, it is a beast out the box. But if you are going to make the screen smaller, no removable battery, no card slot and have continually crappy support and development then I will stick with what I have until something better comes along. The sad part is that I am REALLY brand loyal. If you treat me right I will get in line to hand you my money for what I believe is something worthy to be purchased. Samsung is really making me question them. Yes, the note 5 is probably going to be a beast but I really like the Note edge dangnabbit and want them to just do what's right by the people they sold the edge to.
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Should have clarified. I already have the edge. Wondering whether to upgrade to Lollipop
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I took the plunge cuz so many people who flashed it said it made the phone run faster. no such luck here and my battery drains faster. If I could un-do it I would. But everyone's experience is not the same.
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In all honesty, the phone itself is awesome! I love the note edge. The problem is samsung development. They could have blown this to the moon and beyond, but it seems like they are trying to pull backon the edge screen. Even kitkat had more to offer than lollipop. The lollipop update has removed quite a bit of the edge screen features that made it so attractive to begin with.
I'd still buy the edge, but if they keep removing edge screen features, then id rather go back the note 4
Welcome to Samsung Folks
As much as I hate to say it, this is no different from what Samsung has always done in the past. This is their business model. The sooner they can obsolete devices, the sooner they can sell more.
The amazing thing is that they get the device to the point where it works very well, with the bare minimum features and stability they can get away with, and then totally forget about the device. The Gear S on my wrist, the Note 10.1 2012 and 2014, the Note 2, all of these devices Samsung got to work, worked out the majority of bugs, and left them without looking back.
This is what they do. Sadly, you buy a Galaxy device for what it is now, not what it can become in the future. They are locking them down tighter so developers can't do anything anymore, and carriers are loving every moment of it.
I watched videos of Samsung's developer conference and it was sparse. No one wants to mess with their devices anymore, and sadly, people messing with their devices is what got them to where they are now. That is what's changed. Just like jailbreaking iPhones was huge early on but fizzled out after Apple started to sell more devices based on the eye catching features outweighing the desire for customizability, rooting and building custom roms is fizzling out as Samsung sells crocksh*ts of Galaxy devices that have three or four excellent features that keep people buying them blindly without caring about customization.
Blogs are ignoring these issues brought up by OP because they are being paid or coerced or conned by Samsung into glorifying everything about the S6, while actively ignoring the Note. "If we give you this tester device, you aren't allowed to talk negatively about any of our other devices, and are limited to saying X, Y or Z about those other devices."
Samsung knows that the Note is the BEST phablet, or really, it is the BEST Android phone out there. Hands down. I'm not saying that because I like it, I'm saying it because based upon the balance between features and price, it is number one.
I have a Nexus 6. It isn't all that it is cracked up to be, and I wonder whether that's because Google is slacking off. In any case, I bought the Nexus a few days ago, and I'm already done with it. It is clearly a baseline phone. Current roms have nothing but kernel mods, everyone is trying to make it more "buttery smooth," and Xposed has been trampled by Samsung's big boot.
So what's really going on? Is Samsung thinking they don't have to try so hard because no matter what any other manufacturers do, they won't be able to match Samsung's eye catching features? Look at LG's attempts. They are good, but not ground breaking.
In any case, Google and manufacturers are taking back our customizability from us, and forcing us into the iPhone model, while throwing out a bone here and there and acting like Android is still the customizable and open ecosystem it has always been.
There it is.
sbrownla said:
As much as I hate to say it, this is no different from what Samsung has always done in the past. This is their business model. The sooner they can obsolete devices, the sooner they can sell more.
The amazing thing is that they get the device to the point where it works very well, with the bare minimum features and stability they can get away with, and then totally forget about the device. The Gear S on my wrist, the Note 10.1 2012 and 2014, the Note 2, all of these devices Samsung got to work, worked out the majority of bugs, and left them without looking back.
This is what they do. Sadly, you buy a Galaxy device for what it is now, not what it can become in the future. They are locking them down tighter so developers can't do anything anymore, and carriers are loving every moment of it.
I watched videos of Samsung's developer conference and it was sparse. No one wants to mess with their devices anymore, and sadly, people messing with their devices is what got them to where they are now. That is what's changed. Just like jailbreaking iPhones was huge early on but fizzled out after Apple started to sell more devices based on the eye catching features outweighing the desire for customizability, rooting and building custom roms is fizzling out as Samsung sells crocksh*ts of Galaxy devices that have three or four excellent features that keep people buying them blindly without caring about customization.
Blogs are ignoring these issues brought up by OP because they are being paid or coerced or conned by Samsung into glorifying everything about the S6, while actively ignoring the Note. "If we give you this tester device, you aren't allowed to talk negatively about any of our other devices, and are limited to saying X, Y or Z about those other devices."
Samsung knows that the Note is the BEST phablet, or really, it is the BEST Android phone out there. Hands down. I'm not saying that because I like it, I'm saying it because based upon the balance between features and price, it is number one.
I have a Nexus 6. It isn't all that it is cracked up to be, and I wonder whether that's because Google is slacking off. In any case, I bought the Nexus a few days ago, and I'm already done with it. It is clearly a baseline phone. Current roms have nothing but kernel mods, everyone is trying to make it more "buttery smooth," and Xposed has been trampled by Samsung's big boot.
So what's really going on? Is Samsung thinking they don't have to try so hard because no matter what any other manufacturers do, they won't be able to match Samsung's eye catching features? Look at LG's attempts. They are good, but not ground breaking.
In any case, Google and manufacturers are taking back our customizability from us, and forcing us into the iPhone model, while throwing out a bone here and there and acting like Android is still the customizable and open ecosystem it has always been.
There it is.
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Dude, the market moves a an absolutely blistering pace.. Before one device is even completed the tech inside of it is basically obsolete think of it from an research and development standpoint. They have to develop the best device they can, which I feel they do a damn good job at, so during the time of development they have to already be looking ahead to the next iteration of the same device. It's a giant cycle of constant improvement that takes time to design, to then develop, to implement it , and then market the **** out of it and in background the new device is already begun it's design and development process .. Samsung more so that not, delivers a top of the line device consistantly.. we here on xda tend to be more knowledgeable and more used to the tech than the average consumer whom maybe coming from some crap device to even a note 3 which would blow their mind not to mention the note 4 or edge. Come on Samsung is constantly smashing the competing oems in tech and design. Htc doesn't count because their internals are absolutely horrible, I don't care what it looks like because I know it's a pile of garbage. LG just looks at Samsung and then kangs the f out of them. Their ui is so twiz like it's not even funny. Except it runs like crap. Nice cams that's it. Samsung does a damn fine job in my opinion. Better than any other oem by miles. They aren't perfect, but they are still the best.
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Dude, the market moves a an absolutely blistering pace.. Before one device is even completed the tech inside of it is basically obsolete think of it from an research and development standpoint. They have to develop the best device they can, which I feel they do a damn good job at, so during the time of development they have to already be looking ahead to the next iteration of the same device. It's a giant cycle of constant improvement that takes time to design, to then develop, to implement it , and then market the **** out of it and in background the new device is already begun it's design and development process .. Samsung more so that not, delivers a top of the line device consistantly.. we here on xda tend to be more knowledgeable and more used to the tech than the average consumer whom maybe coming from some crap device to even a note 3 which would blow their mind not to mention the note 4 or edge. Come on Samsung is constantly smashing the competing oems in tech and design. Htc doesn't count because their internals are absolutely horrible, I don't care what it looks like because I know it's a pile of garbage. LG just looks at Samsung and then kangs the f out of them. Their ui is so twiz like it's not even funny. Except it runs like crap. Nice cams that's it. Samsung does a damn fine job in my opinion. Better than any other oem by miles. They aren't perfect, but they are still the best.
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No one argues, it is the best of the tippity top phones on the market.. the argument is in the developement and lack of support. Its like buying a laptop in order to have adobe photoshop where ever you are, and then finding out that they will no longer offer adobe photoshop to that one model. And then you find out that the next model of the same laptop is getting adobe photoshop, office suite pro, 283tb of unlimited cloud storage, and a date with sofia vergara with a garanteed handjob.... tell me you wouldnt be just a lil upset.. lol
arbit12 said:
Should have clarified. I already have the edge. Wondering whether to upgrade to Lollipop
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I've recently upgraded to lollipop and at first I hated it - made my phone run slow, hot, and the battery drained super fast. As much as I hated doing it, I did the dreaded factory reset and restore, painstakingly loading back on the hundreds of apps and settings. But so far it's been worth it and the phone feels snappier than before. I can't really comment on battery life yet but hopefully that will be better too.
As for negatives I don't like that you can't deactivate the lollipop style notifications as now when browsing YouTube the notifications cover the screen.
Regarding the camera, I actually prefer to have the shutter button on screen, as it's easier to hit and the position of my fingers mean that I know longer get a finger in the shot!
I really wish I saw this thread yesterday!!! I just came home with the Sprint variant and found this two minutes after I updated to Lollipop and rooted.. Are you serious? Did I just drop $800 on "THE BEST DEVICE SINCE SILICON WAS DISCOVERED!!" that is basically a Betamax player already?!? (showing my age with that reference..) If I read y'all correctly, I'm stuck with TouchWiz, I can't discover that perfect "unknown" little custom ROM to flash, and I basically ruined the eponymous Edge by upgrading from 4.4.4? Really? K.. deep breath...
Lollipop has killed the Edge. It was a great phone out of the box with Kit Kat. Although AT&T shoved the update down our throats, the community has come through with a downgrade. Development has been slow but im sure and hope itll come around. Its my daily driver and I am more content with smaller mods and full functionality over full blown customization.
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