Touch input lag, choppy animations - X Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Am I the only one with this phone who notices a serious amount of touch input lag? I see no problems with sensitivity, just a longer than normal delay. Especially noticeable while I'm typing. And besides that, animations are choppier than my original Moto X 2013. This phone feels like a downgrade in terms of responsiveness. I felt like I had the same problem with my Moto G3 as well. Is Motorola not caring at all about lolipop on their newest phones right now? Maybe they're saving the optimizations for Marshmallow? Still unacceptable.

Laggy for me 2

Try forcing gpu for 2d rendering. The option is found under developer options.
This significantly improved my Xperia M4 with the same Snapdragon 615.

MikeMurphy said:
Try forcing gpu for 2d rendering. The option is found under developer options.
This significantly improved my Xperia M4 with the same Snapdragon 615.
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Tried that already and doesn't seem to have any affect, unfortunately. I think the difference is the Xperia M4 only has a 720p resolution compared to the 1080p resolution of the X Play. Maybe the 615 cpu just struggles to push out that many pixels.

as from what i read is the snapdragon 615/Adreno 405 performance is more or less equal to snapdragon 600/Adreno 320 from the i9505 i had before.
the S4 has zero problems with 5.1.1 . i9505 has FHD too by the way. I think (hope) its a driver problem.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Qualcomm-Snapdragon-615-MSM8939-SoC.117495.0.html
Overall, the Snapdragon 615 offers a performance similar to that of the older Snapdragon 600 (Krait architecture).
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The Adreno 400 series has been substantially redesigned and supports DirectX 11.2 (FL 11_1) including hardware tessellation, OpenGL ES 3.1, and OpenCL 1.2. Furthermore, the performance has been significantly improved, which is now similar to the Adreno 320 and PowerVR G6200.
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treibstoff said:
as from what i read is the snapdragon 615/Adreno 405 performance is more or less equal to snapdragon 600/Adreno 320 from the i9505 i had before.
the S4 has zero problems with 5.1.1 . i9505 has FHD too by the way. I think (hope) its a driver problem.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Qualcomm-Snapdragon-615-MSM8939-SoC.117495.0.html
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So I take it you're experiencing the touch input lag issue as well? It seems like either my device is defective or nobody else is noticing this annoying problem.

Genetixs said:
So I take it you're experiencing the touch input lag issue as well? It seems like either my device is defective or nobody else is noticing this annoying problem.
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i have some small lag issues. i have small graphic glitches with the animation of the expanding musicplayer notification ( no matter what play i have used ) when a music app is running and i swipe down the notification bar.
i think these bugs and your multitouch bug is probably the same or have the same case, i think its a graphic unit driver problem.

I noticed things get a bit sluggish so I just disabled animations under dev tools.. problem solved and a slight battery saver too.

I wish we got a small update from Motorola to fix this for the time being instead of having to wait for marshmallow

This helped me to get away with most of the lag

100rabh7791 said:
This helped me to get away with most of the lag
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Tried that already but thanks anyway.

100rabh7791 said:
This helped me to get away with most of the lag
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Didn't work for me

Just updated Google app last night ...feels really smooth ...
Can any1 else confirm ?

No lag here
Had the phone for a month & smooth as. As suggested turn off animations in dev ops. I have mine set at .5 & works fine.

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4.2 Update- MAJOR Gaming Performance Increase

After updating to 4.2 via using the toolkit to download and flash google 4.1.1 factory image, then updating to 4.1.2 via OTA, then flashing the 4.2 update via recovery, I have noticed something very special...
Gaming. Oh my god. Gaming. What happened? What the hell happened? I mean- one minute I was happily running 4.1.2, the latest Smooth Rom, coupled with Motley a11, with the GPU clocked at 520Mhz, and the CPU at 1.6Ghz. And playing games.such as NFS Most Wanted and NOVA 3 was... Acceptable. Just about smooth enough to enjoy (20-25 FPS). And the next minute, I'm running 4.2 stock, with 100% stock frequencies for every aspect of the tablet, and gaming is soooooo darn smooth!!! (30-40 FPS). I mean- what the actual hell have Google pulled here??
Before its mentioned- I've checked. Both of the games mentioned still have the full Tegra Effects enabled, just as they were when they were running under 4.1.2.
My verdict is that when the games were running under 4.1.2, they weren't running on all cores available. Maybe just two, or perhaps even just one! Is it possible that Google have now enabled all the cores available to applications? If so- why wasn't it like this before?
What are your thoughts people?
chaplinb said:
After updating to 4.2 via using the toolkit to download and flash google 4.1.1 factory image, then updating to 4.1.2 via OTA, then flashing the 4.2 update via recovery, I have noticed something very special...
Gaming. Oh my god. Gaming. What happened? What the hell happened? I mean- one minute I was happily running 4.1.2, the latest Smooth Rom, coupled with Motley a11, with the GPU clocked at 520Mhz, and the CPU at 1.6Ghz. And playing games.such as NFS Most Wanted and NOVA 3 was... Acceptable. Just about smooth enough to enjoy (20-25 FPS). And the next minute, I'm running 4.2 stock, with 100% stock frequencies for every aspect of the tablet, and gaming is soooooo darn smooth!!! (30-40 FPS). I mean- what the actual hell have Google pulled here??
Before its mentioned- I've checked. Both of the games mentioned still have the full Tegra Effects enabled, just as they were when they were running under 4.1.2.
My verdict is that when the games were running under 4.1.2, they weren't running on all cores available. Maybe just two, or perhaps even just one! Is it possible that Google have now enabled all the cores available to applications? If so- why wasn't it like this before?
What ate your thoughts people?
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Overclocking GPUS and CPUs doesn't always mean you're getting the best performance out of your device.. In a lot of cases it can actually cause no performance increase or worse performance.
Especially at a OC of 1.6 and a GPU at 520.. I can almost guarantee your device was getting throttled down for thermal protection while gaming..
I hope you are right. But i don't see why it would not have used all cores before, it depends more on the application using threads properly.
Will definitely try some games when i get home, wish we had a Nexus 7 at work but they preferred an iPad mini for 7-8 inches app testing
lol edit srry
Yeah you're probably right. But even on stock kernel, I wasn't getting the smoothness I am now
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styckx said:
Overclocking GPUS and CPUs doesn't always mean you're getting the best performance out of your device.. In a lot of cases it can actually cause no performance increase or worse performance.
Especially at a OC of 1.6 and a GPU at 520.. I can almost guarantee your device was getting throttled down for thermal protection while gaming..
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Glad you said it, peeps still think an overclock = performance when in most cases a max overclock will hurt more than it helps, well unless you break out the liquid nitrogen.. happy days.
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Kaeladar said:
I hope you are right. But i don't see why it would not have used all cores before, it depends more on the application using threads properly.
Will definitely try some games when i get home, wish we had a Nexus 7 at work but they preferred an iPad mini for 7-8 inches app testing
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off topic but how you getting on with the ipad mini? Is the screen as bad as they say? not that im saying the N7 screen is good or anything its passable at best.
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Glad you said it, peeps still think an overclock = performance when in most cases a max overclock will hurt more than it helps, well unless you break out the liquid nitrogen.. happy days.
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off topic but how you getting on with the ipad mini? Is the screen as bad as they say? not that im saying the N7 screen is good or anything its passable at best.
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Screen is terrible. Text looks like crap.
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Nvidia recently made some improvements to their Linux driver, claiming "double the performance."
Maybe some of those improvements made it into the Tegra 3 driver for Android?
I have not tried any games on 4.2 yet, can anyone confirm what the OP said?
Yeah I am aware that over-clocking rarely means performance increase. Its just fun to experiment sometimes and see for yourself
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It's slightly faster with some games, but I wouldn't call it major or anything.
steevp said:
Nvidia recently made some improvements to their Linux driver, claiming "double the performance."
Maybe some of those improvements made it into the Tegra 3 driver for Android?
I have not tried any games on 4.2 yet, can anyone confirm what the OP said?
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I got no performance improvement on Antutu, Egypt HD or Classic.
Neither did I. But I imagine those apps will soon receive an update to take advantage of 4.2?
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Oh dear, if you call 30-40 FPS a major increase then i worry about android gaming. Its 2012. 60 FPS should be the standard frame rate by now. games should be as smooth as project butter. This is why i jumped ship from windows phone to the galaxy s3. i wanted more power to run these games properly. sadly, a lot of them dont. I bought need for speed most wanted and hope it would run at 60 fps. it dosnt unless there is something wrong with my S3. Why do android owners think that 30 fps is acceptable in this day and age of dual and quad core processors?
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Oh dear, if you call 30-40 FPS a major increase then i worry about android gaming. Its 2012. 60 FPS should be the standard frame rate by now. games should be as smooth as project butter. This is why i jumped ship from windows phone to the galaxy s3. i wanted more power to run these games properly. sadly, a lot of them dont. I bought need for speed most wanted and hope it would run at 60 fps. it dosnt unless there is something wrong with my S3. Why do android owners think that 30 fps is acceptable in this day and age of dual and quad core processors?
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I can't tell you how many fps Need For Speed has on the S3 but I'd say it runs damn fast. A lot faster than on my N7 (still 4.1.2).
60 fps or 30 fps boils down to less detailed graphics or more detailed graphics on the same hardware. If you ask me, I take more details @30 fps then cheesy graphics @60 fps.
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I can't tell you how many fps Need For Speed has on the S3 but I'd say it runs damn fast. A lot faster than on my N7 (still 4.1.2).
60 fps or 30 fps boils down to less detailed graphics or more detailed graphics on the same hardware. If you ask me, I take more details @30 fps then cheesy graphics @60 fps.
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each to their own, perhaps your attitude is why developers cant be bothered to make or optimise android games to their full potential. should my quad core S3 be running games as smoothly as the same game on the dual core iphone 5? yep. do they? nope. im pretty sure that the S3 is capable. poor optimization i suspect. as an example, i bet need for speed most wanted is smoother on iphone5 than the S3 version? likely running at 60 fps but with the same graphics, same with Nova 3? FIFA 12? list goes on.
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i wish i had 4.2...
and here i thought people could only notice about 24fps... everything is smooth for me (except for spiderman) and im still on 4.1.2...
p.s can you tell me why my n7 wont update to 4.2? it notifies me theres an update and i click reboot&install, and it, i think, starts installing but something happens, and it just reboots with 4.1... thanks in advance
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and here i thought people could only notice about 24fps... everything is smooth for me (except for spiderman) and im still on 4.1.2...
p.s can you tell me why my n7 wont update to 4.2? it notifies me theres an update and i click reboot&install, and it, i think, starts installing but something happens, and it just reboots with 4.1... thanks in advance
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thats what people keep saying but .if you have two copies of the same game one running at 24fps and the other running at 60fps and have them side by side. then you can easily tell the difference. Also JB, project Butter allows the UI to Run at 60fps, as they say, buttery smooth. if a person could not have be able to tell the difference between 24fps and 60 fps then why did they bother with project butter? there is a huge difference between the smothness of jelly bean compared to Gingerbread, or even ICS on some of the phones which cant quite handle ICS. thats why I want the games to run at 60fps...we have the technology and power with android now......

(HELP) s4 i9505 LAGS

hello guys i am a noob here, i have this new s4 from UEA, upgraded to 4.3, tried different country variants, and tried some custom roms but some games lag,like it stutters during gameplay..eg: Plants VS zombies 2 v1.7, i compared it with my s3 and it seemed to run the game faster and smoother than s4. tried googleing up some tips and tricks on the settings but nothing seemed to work...i need some viable advice or help please. THANKS
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hello guys i am a noob here, i have this new s4 from UEA, upgraded to 4.3, tried different country variants, and tried some custom roms but some games lag,like it stutters during gameplay..eg: Plants VS zombies 2 v1.7, i compared it with my s3 and it seemed to run the game faster and smoother than s4. tried googleing up some tips and tricks on the settings but nothing seemed to work...i need some viable advice or help please. THANKS
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Same here with some older games, espesh 2D ones.. Knights of Pen and Paper to name one.... It's a problem from the app side, yet to be optimized for newer devices, as far as I know, anyway....
Probably optimization issues. The S4 is likely to be able to handle a light game on 1080p, but a full blown game may lag due to the weak (for its resolution) Adreno 320. Seeing that the Mali 400 series GPU made up more than 25% of the GPU market share, the developers probably put in huge amounts of effort to optimize their apps for that chipset, so the S2/S3 runs them well.
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even tried a custom kernel that tweaks the gpu up to 2.3 mhz, well it works on the speed and sped up a bit playing PVZ2 v1.7 but still i could see the stuttering, still not smooth as on s3. hope its just the app and not the cpu/gpu issues.

[Q] Real Racing / Football Manager slowdown fixes?

Hi,
So the Note 4 has a Snapdragon 805 and the QuadHD screen but the lag on RR3 is ridiculous.
Anyway to fix this? Some people have issues, and some dont.
Also, Football Manager 15 that can run the enhanced match engine and with good speed on the OnePlus One struggles on the Note 4 and recommends the standard match engine.
Any ideas how to tweak performance? I am on 5.0.1 BTU.
Root?
If yes, check out this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58809129&postcount=58
Let me know if it helps.
Cheers.
Thanks, I'm not root at the moment since updating to Lollipop but maybe I soon will be.
Still not sure why Football Manager would run slow.
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Hi,
So the Note 4 has a Snapdragon 805 and the QuadHD screen but the lag on RR3 is ridiculous.
Anyway to fix this? Some people have issues, and some dont.
Also, Football Manager 15 that can run the enhanced match engine and with good speed on the OnePlus One struggles on the Note 4 and recommends the standard match engine.
Any ideas how to tweak performance? I am on 5.0.1 BTU.
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There's an app for real racing 3 to alter the graphics. You usually get a slow down when the processor isn't running at full speed or it has been and it gets too hot and throttles down.
Not a great deal you can do with it without being rooted and modifying the CPU speed and thresholds.
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Root?
If yes, check out this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58809129&postcount=58
Let me know if it helps.
Cheers.
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Well it definitely works but makes it look naff in the process. I guess I'll have a play with the settings and see where the performance/graphics meet best

Nougat upgrade lowered cpuclock??!

So I upgraded my X compact to official Nougat 7.0 a couple of days back and on first impressions I noticed some lag here and there mostly when scrolling
And I knew that Snapdragon 650 is almost clos to SD810 so what could be the problem because it was awesomely fluid and smooth on MM 6.0.1, so I started to dig up and here's what I noticed:
In CPUz app on MM it shows Qualcomm SD 650 @ 1.8 GHz but today I looked it up and in Nougat it shows Qualcomm SD 650 @ 1.4 GHz!!! And if you look at cpu cores, those 2 last core Cpu4 and cpu5 are stopped (i guess those two are [email protected] cores right?)
So conclusion is that A72 cores which are the main core to maintain smoothness are offline for some reason so Im asking developers to dig this up and help us out
Thank you
If there is no activity they should be stopped. My old Xperia M2 usually had only 1 core out of 4 active at the minimum clock. Then sure, if something was running in the background all 4 kicked at the hight clock.
I can't check right now with Nougat (my phone is currently updating to it. But it seems to take an awful lot of time. I think it has been updating for 20 minutes or more. Hopefully it's just updating all Dalvik caches or what they are now), but in Marshmallow all 6 cores were always active even with the CPU nearly idle. In my case I think that helped to cause the somehow high battery drain I had (that and plus wakelocks spamming all time).
But sure, if that means the phone will start lagging, screw it. I could deal with a day of battery life, I sure can't deal (again. And then again and again!) with a keyboard showing up after 1 or more seconds also missing the keys while swiping.
PS: it finally installed. You're right. Something definitively looks wrong with it. The cores 4 & 5 are disabled even with Google Play doing some apps updates. Unless it's because CPU Z isn't supporting Nougat yet. I'll have to investigate more via adb.
PPS: It might be the typical placebo effect but it actually feels even smoother now! So I am not sure what's going on.
Nah definitly not smoother!
I Check with qualcomm app and those 2 core are off all the time and it is lagging very bad in many places
If you wanna see the lag you can go scroll fast in call log or install an app like telegram messenger and scrol in chats
And also I played spiderman unlimited game on it and its lagging there no
There was No lag at all on android 6
Guys please report this issue
I used CPU-Z and CPU N°4 and 5 seems to be stop.
After few hours I am not sur that there are more lag than before.
I made a test with Antutu, I had arround 75000 before the update, and arround 80000 after the update.
I think I will make a fresh installation tomorrow.
I don't have those problems....
edit: I HAVE THIS PROBLEM.....
Guys are you serious?!
You actually dont see the lags here and there? Ieven see it lags when there are some notifications and i wanna scroll em fast
Come on guys!
Can someone on 7.0 with the Issue use CPU-Z (from google play) and click on "online validation" and share thr link to the CPU information page here, please?
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Guys are you serious?!
You actually dont see the lags here and there? Ieven see it lags when there are some notifications and i wanna scroll em fast
Come on guys!
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you are too much dramatic...... there are some lag but not so much and not so drastic.....
and battery life is much much better on nougat
cingolat said:
you are too much dramatic...... there are some lag but not so much and not so drastic.....
and battery life is much much better on nougat
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Maybe I am but smoothness in compact size was the one and only reason I went for this little guy
And whats the point of havin SD650 if there isnt any A72 cores to operate
And I really prefer a 100% fluid rom than a couple of hours more juice...
Kianush said:
Maybe I am but smoothness in compact size was the one and only reason I went for this little guy
And whats the point of havin SD650 if there isnt any A72 cores to operate
And I really prefer a 100% fluid rom than a couple of hours more juice...
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I agree with you, and hope in a future update to solve this bug(because it is obviously a bug), but for now I can live with this.... maybe I'm lucky, but I don't have big lags, just a little bit here and there..... hope in future 7.1.1 to solve that....
another thing I notice is a louder speaker sound.....
dcro95 said:
I used CPU-Z and CPU N°4 and 5 seems to be stop.
After few hours I am not sur that there are more lag than before.
I made a test with Antutu, I had arround 75000 before the update, and arround 80000 after the update.
I think I will make a fresh installation tomorrow.
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Wich rom did you update from to get nougat?
Kianush said:
Nah definitly not smoother!
I Check with qualcomm app and those 2 core are off all the time and it is lagging very bad in many places
If you wanna see the lag you can go scroll fast in call log or install an app like telegram messenger and scrol in chats
And also I played spiderman unlimited game on it and its lagging there no
There was No lag at all on android 6
Guys please report this issue
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I confirm it doesn't lag for me. I checked scrolling through a long chat in Whatsapp and through the list of all my apps in Google Play (the latter has always been slow. Now it loads immediately, that's why I felt it was snappier). Then I tested with Antutu and I have got 74K (not sure why @dcro95 has got 80K, though).
Then if you look in Antutu/Info/CPU/More you see that for core 5&6 it says they are disabled. But at the same time it shows the percentage of their are activity (which, being the cores disabled, should be none). I didn't have time to check with adb, yet. But what I suspected and it seems to be confirmed by Antutu is that there might be a "bug" where the values for the cores active have the "read" flag cleared, like it happened with the minfree values in Lollipop with some Xperia (M2 for sure. It was "-w--w-----" instead of "rw-rw----".
Anyway, in case of your very noticeable lag I'd suggest to first check your stamina settings. If I enable the Stamina the phone lags immediately. Either with Nougat or Marshmallow.
Oh, and it mat not matter f you didn't enable the Stamina before upgrading. After the upgrade plenty of my configuration parameters simply went bananas. It changed my WiFi settings, removing the static address. And in the case of an app (but I imagine more of them at this point), it modified the login. I'm sure the login was correct because I had a widget for that app active (and working fine).
PS: my battery life still sucks, though. Actually it is even worse than before. I may have to backup, reset and restore the phone and see if it helps.
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Wich rom did you update from to get nougat?
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I had a customized FR ROM 34.1.A.3.49, I had the Nougat update by OTA.
I made some test with ANTUTU with Nougat ROM, the results are :
- 80160
- 75600
- 74600
- 80780
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I confirm it doesn't lag for me. I checked scrolling through a long chat in Whatsapp and through the list of all my apps in Google Play (the latter has always been slow. Now it loads immediately, that's why I felt it was snappier). Then I tested with Antutu and I have got 74K (not sure why @dcro95 has got 80K, though).
Then if you look in Antutu/Info/CPU/More you see that for core 5&6 it says they are disabled. But at the same time it shows the percentage of their are activity (which, being the cores disabled, should be none). I didn't have time to check with adb, yet. But what I suspected and it seems to be confirmed by Antutu is that there might be a "bug" where the values for the cores active have the "read" flag cleared, like it happened with the minfree values in Lollipop with some Xperia (M2 for sure. It was "-w--w-----" instead of "rw-rw----".
Anyway, in case of your very noticeable lag I'd suggest to first check your stamina settings. If I enable the Stamina the phone lags immediately. Either with Nougat or Marshmallow.
Oh, and it mat not matter f you didn't enable the Stamina before upgrading. After the upgrade plenty of my configuration parameters simply went bananas. It changed my WiFi settings, removing the static address. And in the case of an app (but I imagine more of them at this point), it modified the login. I'm sure the login was correct because I had a widget for that app active (and working fine).
PS: my battery life still sucks, though. Actually it is even worse than before. I may have to backup, reset and restore the phone and see if it helps.
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Thank you for you info man but let me explain it to you again
Firstly, what Im saying is on microscopic scale, I do feel even the smallest amount of lag
The laging that comes up after turning on Stamina is waaaay more than the lag that I talked about in OP, of course that is big enough to be seen by anyone!
On android 6.0.1 I didnt see even the smallest lag absolutly nothing! but after the upgrade to 7.0 I was starting to see small lags here and there(you might not even see it! Im very sensitive in this case) like for example when you have 3 notifications try to open notification bar with slow to normal finger swipe down, it lags a little there, and other examples that i said before.
At first i thought maybe the rom is not well optimized but after I saw cpuz I was sure that those cores are off!
On android MM telegram messenger had no lags, nothing! But now it lags a lot when scrolling but i say again this "a lot" is in compariaon to MM! not to Xperia tipo!!!
So I am 100% positive that A72 1.8Ghz cores are not functioning.
Lets go and try to fix that, or wait for an update to fix it.
I created a thread here quoting your first post. Maybe it will get more attention
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...ock/td-p/1187152/jump-to/first-unread-message
Have reboot the phone and the core 5 & 6 were activated (up to 1,8)
Just after make it sleep, the core were stopped. Maybe an issue with doze ?
However I can"t say it lag. It maybe a little longer to charge game or big app but I use them to rarely to compare
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Have reboot the phone and the core 5 & 6 were activated (up to 1,8)
Just after make it sleep, the core were stopped. Maybe an issue with doze ?
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Same for me, after reboot and used photos, th� where actived and cpu turn at 1.8ghz. 5min after they where disable. I think it depend cpu use. I ve no lag.
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Thank you for you info man but let me explain it to you again
Firstly, what Im saying is on microscopic scale, I do feel even the smallest amount of lag.
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Hmmm.. Nope, my friend. You talked about a lot of lag: these are your very own words: "it is lagging very bad in many places"
Now if the problem is that you perceive a microlag that could be. With Lagdroid I learned how to ignore that for good.
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So I am 100% positive that A72 1.8Ghz cores are not functioning.
Lets go and try to fix that, or wait for an update to fix it.
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And I am quite sure that the cores are active, as Antutu benchmark shows in the info section. In the attached picture you can see how Antutu shows that the cores 5 & 6 have a CPU load (which I made it varying moving the notification panel), while at the same time they are shown as disabled. That simply isn't possible. If a core is disabled it can't have any load. So yes, there is a bug, but that seems to be in the CPU monitoring. I doubt we would get 74K or plus in Antutu if those two cores were off.
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Hmmm.. Nope, my friend. You talked about a lot of lag: these are your very own words: "it is lagging very bad in many places"
Now if the problem is that you perceive a microlag that could be. With Lagdroid I learned how to ignore that for good.
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And I am quite sure that the cores are active, as Antutu benchmark shows in the info section. In the attached picture you can see how Antutu shows that the cores 5 & 6 have a CPU load (which I made it varying moving the notification panel), while at the same time they are shown as disabled. That simply isn't possible. If a core is disabled it can't have any load. So yes, there is a bug, but that seems to be in the CPU monitoring. I doubt we would get 74K or plus in Antutu if those two cores were off.
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So what you say is that those cores are functioning normally but its juat showing them sleep right?!?
Then please tell me whats the reason on these even small lags?
Those dont matter actually, I need to know why I cant play spiderman unlimited and asphalt 8 on ultra setting like before
You could test them yourself
See 4 a53 1.4GHz are enough for daily usage but on heavy usage its obiouse that those a72 cores are missing
But there is one probibility, that those guys become active on very high usage like antutu! But I guess thats gonna be VERY HIGH!
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And I am quite sure that the cores are active, as Antutu benchmark shows in the info section. In the attached picture you can see how Antutu shows that the cores 5 & 6 have a CPU load (which I made it varying moving the notification panel), while at the same time they are shown as disabled. That simply isn't possible. If a core is disabled it can't have any load. So yes, there is a bug, but that seems to be in the CPU monitoring. I doubt we would get 74K or plus in Antutu if those two cores were off.
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I have exactly the same on Antutu, and the max frequency is 1804 MHz.

so i updated gpu drivers and...

...and it gets me some smoother framerates and around 10k more on antutu. but it could be just difference in how hot was tablet in first and second benchmarks.
i'm on oreo stock, t820 model. tried playing space marshals as it is my favourite game and without tweaks... it was unbearable.
with gpu update that you can find here on xda forums it got better. not ipad level better, but decent. still it seems like samsung didn't even try to optimize this tablet. i have read that it lags but i have no ui lag, just graphics lag an stutter, tearing and so on.
if anyone wants to give it a try just search for adreno 530 gpu update. should be on xiaomi mi mix subforum. there are two releases.
tried both and it seems that r8 gives smoother graphics but r15 does not heat up so quickly
Very interesting, thanks! Unfortunately, that's not a surprise. Samsung makes good hardware but absolutely doesn't care about the software.
And you just downloaded from the OP?
Orbital_Logic said:
And you just downloaded from the OP?
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That s' what he said, from
dvijetrecine said:
...and it gets me some smoother framerates and around 10k more on antutu. but it could be just difference in how hot was tablet in first and second benchmarks.
i'm on oreo stock, t820 model. tried playing space marshals as it is my favourite game and without tweaks... it was unbearable.
with gpu update that you can find here on xda forums it got better. not ipad level better, but decent. still it seems like samsung didn't even try to optimize this tablet. i have read that it lags but i have no ui lag, just graphics lag an stutter, tearing and so on.
if anyone wants to give it a try just search for adreno 530 gpu update. should be on xiaomi mi mix subforum. there are two releases.
tried both and it seems that r8 gives smoother graphics but r15 does not heat up so quickly
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Thanks for that information! It would be nice, if you optimize your thread description a little bit and inlclude a guide to setup our device, because this is a really useful Update for all tab s3 owners.
It would be also nice if you provide us your benchmark results. I attached my antutu results with the new rev 15 driver, with stock driver and with stock driver combined with magisk gpu turbo bo9st module. The new rev15 driver only gave me 120.000 points, the stock one 126.000 and combined with boost module over 142.000. So on my end the new gpu driver seems to be useless...
*update: it seems like there are huge differences in the atuntu results. Yesterday evening i got with the new rev15 driver and magisk gpu boost 112.000 points and today in the morning i tried again and i got over 170.000 points. very strange...
Thanks in advance.
Stogie87 said:
Thanks for that information! It would be nice, if you optimize your thread description a little bit and inlclude a guide to setup our device, because this is a really useful Update for all tab s3 owners.
It would be also nice if you provide us your benchmark results. I attached my antutu results with the new rev 15 driver, with stock driver and with stock driver combined with magisk gpu turbo bo9st module. The new rev15 driver only gave me 120.000 points, the stock one 126.000 and combined with boost module over 142.000. So on my end the new gpu driver seems to be useless...
*update: it seems like there are huge differences in the atuntu results. Yesterday evening i got with the new rev15 driver and magisk gpu boost 112.000 points and today in the morning i tried again and i got over 170.000 points. very strange...
Thanks in advance.
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there is no any special set up. unlock bootloader, install twrp and flash zip that you can find on xiaomi subforums. even somebody posted link in this thread.
the thing with this tablet is that it heats up quickly and throttles like nothing. no wonder you got better score in the morning. i also tried an app called L speed, you can find it on playstore, but it did nothing, just made it worse in my opinion.
this tablet had great potential, but with bad optimisation and cooling... it's apsolute joke. if i could only open it easily to add some copper for better thermal dissipation. and also a modded kernel would help bbut we have none of that
anyone can show a full details on how to install the gpu update? my devices is t825...
KY.Wong said:
anyone can show a full details on how to install the gpu update? my devices is t825...
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That's what i was previously asking for. So this is no real thread with instructions. Just an short information.
You will find the installation instructions here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix/development/driver-adreno-530-540-gpu-driver-t3815853

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