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How do i close a program in the magic, i dont want it running in the background. Is there a prog like a taskmanager or something..??
Hi ,
Download "advance task manager lite" off the Market. This is a very very helpful app which can close all your programs running and very simple to use. And it is Free.
If you need anymore help feel free to post back
CLLC
There is no such app in my market. Can anyone share a free version? Thanks
parrot5 said:
There is no such app in my market. Can anyone share a free version? Thanks
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It's a free version. The actual name is "Advanced Task Manager Lite" so do a search on "Advanced".
I did do a search and can't find it. Anyone else managed to find it under Rogers in Canada?
I can easy find it. I use it every day, but i find it a bit strange that you cant close apps in any other way! And alot of programs doesnt have a "Quit/Exit" function.
Does anyone have any explanation to why its not possible to close programs without download extra programs?
you know,
I think i heard Something about when you leave the app , it does actually sort of close.
It saves the state you left it in (freezes) and unfreezes when you enter it again. So really the App is not running or using any comsumption at all until you are in the app.
CLLC said:
you know,
I think i heard Something about when you leave the app , it does actually sort of close.
It saves the state you left it in (freezes) and unfreezes when you enter it again. So really the App is not running or using any comsumption at all until you are in the app.
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This is true.
It is because android is awesome at app management. There is no real need for closing apps. It leaves apps kinda open (saves their state in ram) but not running. That`s why most apps open so fast. And even though more ram is "in use" it doesn`t cost you battery life.
Thanks for confirming ,
What a fantatic way , The OS is fantastic and I can guarantee that Android has alot of potential and Can only get better and come up with more technological breaking idea's!!
CLLC
CLLC said:
you know,
I think i heard Something about when you leave the app , it does actually sort of close.
It saves the state you left it in (freezes) and unfreezes when you enter it again. So really the App is not running or using any comsumption at all until you are in the app.
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Oh i didnt know that!! Sounds really fantastic. I have to get used to a whole new way of thinking then, i think im too used to windows
Anyway. I love Android more and more. But i was shocked when i found out that you cant send or receive files via bluetooth. I hope this is their number 1. priority in the next released. I mean, comon .. phones have been able to do this for 10 years now!
parrot5 said:
I did do a search and can't find it. Anyone else managed to find it under Rogers in Canada?
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i did not find it either. i m using rogers too
but you can download Close Everything at Market for free.
i think those apps are similar. the only difference is you have to close EVERYTHING instead of choosing an app to end it.
anyway, the system is not getting slower even i open lots apps.
maybe, the "freeze" thing is true
yesterday I had my phone fully charged before i got to sleep, in the morning 8 hours later the battery was almost empty. GPS and WIFI was disabeld, so I think all the programs in the "background" ( a lot ) killed the battery.
Or what do you think killed the batt?
nevil said:
i did not find it either. i m using rogers too
but you can download Close Everything at Market for free.
i think those apps are similar. the only difference is you have to close EVERYTHING instead of choosing an app to end it.
anyway, the system is not getting slower even i open lots apps.
maybe, the "freeze" thing is true
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But I thought if you close EVERYTHING the alarm will not work?
foxman01 said:
yesterday I had my phone fully charged before i got to sleep, in the morning 8 hours later the battery was almost empty. GPS and WIFI was disabeld, so I think all the programs in the "background" ( a lot ) killed the battery.
Or what do you think killed the batt?
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that did not happen to me yet
if you disable background data usage in data sync that will save batt life and lower data usage too.
do not know if that helps at all
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But I thought if you close EVERYTHING the alarm will not work?
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alarms still work (tested just now)
i do not know how that app works ~oops~
maybe it does not work at all hahaha
not all programs stop running. some are designed to run in the background
the only real way to check what is running is to use a task manager
I paid $0.99 for advanced task manager. Its a good, but basic app. And hardly breaks the bank at that price!
The other issue I get is "go slows" sometimes on the phone. It doesn't seem to crash, just response times go into the seconds. I switch off and on to soft reset and its fine.
nevil said:
that did not happen to me yet
if you disable background data usage in data sync that will save batt life and lower data usage too.
do not know if that helps at all
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Why should I disable data usage? If i have an app that use data, then I only need to close the app. Please correct me if I´m wrong.
I was wondering if there is a way to keep all of these damn stock programs from auto starting and running in the background? I downloaded Advance task killer and I always seem tons of crap running I did not start.
Would the only fix be to flash a new ROM on it?
I dont mess too much with task killers, but I believe some can autokill apps that you specify when they start running. You can also remove apps completely via command line if you don't use them at all.
autostarts. it's .99 in the market.
Alright. But nothing free huh? haha. Even after I kill it, some of the programs will still start up in an hour or so.
mroneeyedboh said:
Alright. But nothing free huh? haha. Even after I kill it, some of the programs will still start up in an hour or so.
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are the programs that keep popping up necessary?
If not, remove via command line or be willing to taskkill it, if it bothers you.
also, autostarts has different environment variables (start up, connection changed, usb plugged in, etc.) to specify when to kill what apps (I'm not pimpin it, I'm just sayin its a good program)
Oh. Maybe I'll get it, I mean its only 99 cents I have to figure out how to buy apps. Thanks though.
autostarts I can not find
obededom said:
autostarts. it's .99 in the market.
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I looked on the net, but I can not find the program. Can you link it?
I now use "ProcessKiller alias HTCDlg_killer" on my HTC TP2, but I do not see any killing.
Thanx in advance.
mroneeyedboh said:
I was wondering if there is a way to keep all of these damn stock programs from auto starting and running in the background?
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Some applications are SUPPOSED to be running all the time. Others the phone starts up so that their response time is better.
Arbitrarily killing applications is a sure-fire way to crash the phone. If you can be bothered to provide a list of what you see, someone can advise you what to leave alone.
Jamboman said:
I looked on the net, but I can not find the program. Can you link it?
I now use "ProcessKiller alias HTCDlg_killer" on my HTC TP2, but I do not see any killing.
Thanx in advance.
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http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-elsdoerfer-android-autostarts-jppi.aspx
no prob
I have Home++ I use the kill all feature on the rocket dock. it then says your free memory is 160mb. which am happy with, and then 5 - 10 minutes later, with my phone just being idle, i click on to see what apps are running and. i have about 15 apps running. from doing nothing.
Not sure why my apps run automatically, also when i turn on my phone, every single app turns on. WTF!!!
It's meant to. That is how android and linux works.
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duffy1807 said:
I have Home++ I use the kill all feature on the rocket dock. it then says your free memory is 160mb. which am happy with, and then 5 - 10 minutes later, with my phone just being idle, i click on to see what apps are running and. i have about 15 apps running. from doing nothing.
Not sure why my apps run automatically, also when i turn on my phone, every single app turns on. WTF!!!
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just let them run. stop killing them.
lifeflayer said:
just let them run. stop killing them.
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Great idea, and let my phone be unusable due to the slowness [thumbs up]
duffy1807 said:
Great idea, and let my phone be unusable due to the slowness [thumbs up]
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thats simply not the way it works, let them run, if the o/s sees there is another program that wants some ram it will clear some by killing lesser priority apps.
I stopped using task killers about 3 weeks ago. My phone runs much quicker now I've stopped killing everything... Let the tech do it's own thing and it works surprisingly well....
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duffy1807 said:
Great idea, and let my phone be unusable due to the slowness [thumbs up]
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have you even tried to use the phone without a task manager? the apps in the background are in a frozen state, which means they are simply cached in the ram so when you restart them they open instantly AND retain the old state. there is absolutely no reason to kill an program unless the program bugged out.
mine runs ok i have this kind of apps called FSFILE EXPLORER in this apps wen i hit the menu you can see task manager then all previous apps that i open it highlighted into green color hit kill selected witch is highlighted then memory increase.... nothing is running on the idle.
unused ram is wasted ram
Ok guys will uninstall my task killer and see how i get on thanks
The advice of not killing aps doesn't really wash when you have apps that cause battery drain. I find that killing apps increases battery life.
alitech said:
The advice of not killing aps doesn't really wash when you have apps that cause battery drain. I find that killing apps increases battery life.
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get rid of those apps and get better ones
The apps are the stock apps that come with the firmware. You cant get rid of them mate.
The apps are the stock apps that come with the firmware. You cant get rid of them mate.
unused ram is wasted ram
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So using more ram doesn't use more battery? ;-)
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So using more ram doesn't use more battery? ;-)
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So when the X10 first got released, everyone was blaming Moxier for being a battery pig regardless if you were using it or not. Are we now saying that isn't true?
That's correct - Moxier doesn't use any juice (not noticeable anyway).. I ran a test with wifi off and data/ mms off over night.. so it was just basically a dumb phone with loads of fancy apps.. it used 2% in about 8 hours...
No start up auditor, no task manager... I am running Helix Launcher.
It's natural to not want apps running in the background. What's the first thing you want to do to optimise your PC? Remove unused startup processes and background tasks. It's more important for a phone which has more limited resources than a PC.
I don't use Moxier Mail, Timescape or PlayNow. But for some reason they all open themselves up in the background every so often.
Iceman, I feel pretty lame for trying to manage the apps so much. Going to try a the same test tonight to see what happens.
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Is there any special way to close an application that you are in, or does tapping the home button close it? I want to make sure that I am not using up processor with crap I'm not even using at the time.
To close apps you would need to download a task manager from Market. The way Android is meant to behave is that it leaves apps open until another apps needs it's memory and then it automatically closes other background apps.
I downloaded Advanced Task Killer. Any pros or cons to this app or is there one better?
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I downloaded Advanced Task Killer. Any pros or cons to this app or is there one better?
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That's what I use and it works well for me. As you can choose which apps to leave open and which ones to kill. And it remembers so you don't have to select everytime.
Is there a better one? Maybe, but that one works well, is simple, quick, and easy to use.
Here is why you DON'T NEED a task manager..... do yourself a favor and read..
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/04/multitasking-android-way.html
Thanks for the help guys. I appreciate it.
JustinLoe said:
Here is why you DON'T NEED a task manager..... do yourself a favor and read..
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Wow... that actually makes a ton of sense. Thanks for this.
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I'll double confirm that YOU DO NOT NEED a task manager (unless u need to kill a crashing app if u dont wanna reboot)..
That's how Android is, "background running" apps do not affect phone's performance, cuz they're not really "running" in the background.
Some apps (like Dolphin HD browser) have EXIT/CLOSE button when u press menu
Also hitting back instead of home will usually "close" the app
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nippy!
JustinLoe said:
Here is why you DON'T NEED a task manager..... do yourself a favor and read..
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/04/multitasking-android-way.html
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I couldn't help myself, I wasn't trying to notice it, but it must have been a bit nippy out!
Update: After actually reading the article and a related one linked at the bottom
http://androinica.com/2010/05/07/go...-imply-task-killermanager-apps-are-pointless/
The Android Market has dozens, possibly hundreds, of task killer apps all vying for attention. I’m sure some people may argue that there’s some short-term value to these apps; however, it appears that task killers are not necessary and in some cases do more harm than good. An additional 20 minutes of use or short bursts of freed RAM can be great, but users shouldn’t compromise experience and overall health of their device for that extra time.
Let me be clear in stating that apps like Advance Task Manager or TaskOS have great virtues like batch uninstall and app switching that many people can still benefit from using. With that said, it seems that constantly killing tasks, apps, and processes is not in the best interest of your phone. Android already has the natural ability to do this effectively, so let the phone do its job.
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JustinLoe said:
Here is why you DON'T NEED a task manager..... do yourself a favor and read..
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/04/multitasking-android-way.html
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Good read. It reinforced my belief that I don't need to manage tasks myself.
I installed Smart Bar and noticed that Peeps and Footprints, as well as some other AT&T bloatware randomly load into memory by themselves - and when removed using taskmgr they reappear. I can not figure out what is loading them...is this a prob with all AT&T Droid builds?
DPLOY said:
I installed Smart Bar and noticed that Peeps and Footprints, as well as some other AT&T bloatware randomly load into memory by themselves - and when removed using taskmgr they reappear. I can not figure out what is loading them...is this a prob with all AT&T Droid builds?
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i know that footprint loads whenever you checkout your photo album. and if you decide to send a picture to Facebook via "share". than the facebook app is started and doesn't close when done so it's constantly running in memory.
i periodically check my tasks via ATK and kill them when needed. it's a lil tedious but it saves a little on battery life.
asiancuta said:
i know that footprint loads whenever you checkout your photo album. and if you decide to send a picture to Facebook via "share". than the facebook app is started and doesn't close when done so it's constantly running in memory.
i periodically check my tasks via ATK and kill them when needed. it's a lil tedious but it saves a little on battery life.
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No it does not.. And Android will reload them anyway. Don't obsess over what's running in the background.
khaytsus said:
No it does not.. And Android will reload them anyway. Don't obsess over what's running in the background.
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Sorry Man - with all due respect - I can't let the 'Man' control my phone.
Let's stop the unwanted loading of bloatware!
I installed ATK and set it to auto kill all the running aps I dont want as soon as I lock the screen. My battery life has improved significantly. I also installed a new ROM that doesnt have all that AT&T bull crap...Im sure that helped a bit too.
DPLOY said:
Sorry Man - with all due respect - I can't let the 'Man' control my phone.
Let's stop the unwanted loading of bloatware!
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Kill them all you want; Android will reload them as needed.
As for not loading bloatware, wouldn't that be nice.. But you can remove them or load a ROM without them.
http://lifehacker.com/5608163/watchdog-monitors-your-android-for-run+away-processes
I have a new attitude about task killers:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/cwovf/in_light_of_all_the_discussions_right_now_about/
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/cwhm6/i_stopped_using_a_task_killer_last_week_to_see_if/