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How do i close a program in the magic, i dont want it running in the background. Is there a prog like a taskmanager or something..??

Hi ,
Download "advance task manager lite" off the Market. This is a very very helpful app which can close all your programs running and very simple to use. And it is Free.
If you need anymore help feel free to post back
CLLC

There is no such app in my market. Can anyone share a free version? Thanks

parrot5 said:
There is no such app in my market. Can anyone share a free version? Thanks
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It's a free version. The actual name is "Advanced Task Manager Lite" so do a search on "Advanced".

I did do a search and can't find it. Anyone else managed to find it under Rogers in Canada?

I can easy find it. I use it every day, but i find it a bit strange that you cant close apps in any other way! And alot of programs doesnt have a "Quit/Exit" function.
Does anyone have any explanation to why its not possible to close programs without download extra programs?

you know,
I think i heard Something about when you leave the app , it does actually sort of close.
It saves the state you left it in (freezes) and unfreezes when you enter it again. So really the App is not running or using any comsumption at all until you are in the app.

CLLC said:
you know,
I think i heard Something about when you leave the app , it does actually sort of close.
It saves the state you left it in (freezes) and unfreezes when you enter it again. So really the App is not running or using any comsumption at all until you are in the app.
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This is true.
It is because android is awesome at app management. There is no real need for closing apps. It leaves apps kinda open (saves their state in ram) but not running. That`s why most apps open so fast. And even though more ram is "in use" it doesn`t cost you battery life.

Thanks for confirming ,
What a fantatic way , The OS is fantastic and I can guarantee that Android has alot of potential and Can only get better and come up with more technological breaking idea's!!
CLLC

CLLC said:
you know,
I think i heard Something about when you leave the app , it does actually sort of close.
It saves the state you left it in (freezes) and unfreezes when you enter it again. So really the App is not running or using any comsumption at all until you are in the app.
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Oh i didnt know that!! Sounds really fantastic. I have to get used to a whole new way of thinking then, i think im too used to windows
Anyway. I love Android more and more. But i was shocked when i found out that you cant send or receive files via bluetooth. I hope this is their number 1. priority in the next released. I mean, comon .. phones have been able to do this for 10 years now!

parrot5 said:
I did do a search and can't find it. Anyone else managed to find it under Rogers in Canada?
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i did not find it either. i m using rogers too
but you can download Close Everything at Market for free.
i think those apps are similar. the only difference is you have to close EVERYTHING instead of choosing an app to end it.
anyway, the system is not getting slower even i open lots apps.
maybe, the "freeze" thing is true

yesterday I had my phone fully charged before i got to sleep, in the morning 8 hours later the battery was almost empty. GPS and WIFI was disabeld, so I think all the programs in the "background" ( a lot ) killed the battery.
Or what do you think killed the batt?

nevil said:
i did not find it either. i m using rogers too
but you can download Close Everything at Market for free.
i think those apps are similar. the only difference is you have to close EVERYTHING instead of choosing an app to end it.
anyway, the system is not getting slower even i open lots apps.
maybe, the "freeze" thing is true
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But I thought if you close EVERYTHING the alarm will not work?

foxman01 said:
yesterday I had my phone fully charged before i got to sleep, in the morning 8 hours later the battery was almost empty. GPS and WIFI was disabeld, so I think all the programs in the "background" ( a lot ) killed the battery.
Or what do you think killed the batt?
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that did not happen to me yet
if you disable background data usage in data sync that will save batt life and lower data usage too.
do not know if that helps at all

parrot5 said:
But I thought if you close EVERYTHING the alarm will not work?
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alarms still work (tested just now)
i do not know how that app works ~oops~
maybe it does not work at all hahaha

not all programs stop running. some are designed to run in the background
the only real way to check what is running is to use a task manager
I paid $0.99 for advanced task manager. Its a good, but basic app. And hardly breaks the bank at that price!
The other issue I get is "go slows" sometimes on the phone. It doesn't seem to crash, just response times go into the seconds. I switch off and on to soft reset and its fine.

nevil said:
that did not happen to me yet
if you disable background data usage in data sync that will save batt life and lower data usage too.
do not know if that helps at all
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Why should I disable data usage? If i have an app that use data, then I only need to close the app. Please correct me if I´m wrong.

Resident apps using memory...

I installed Smart Bar and noticed that Peeps and Footprints, as well as some other AT&T bloatware randomly load into memory by themselves - and when removed using taskmgr they reappear. I can not figure out what is loading them...is this a prob with all AT&T Droid builds?

DPLOY said:
I installed Smart Bar and noticed that Peeps and Footprints, as well as some other AT&T bloatware randomly load into memory by themselves - and when removed using taskmgr they reappear. I can not figure out what is loading them...is this a prob with all AT&T Droid builds?
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i know that footprint loads whenever you checkout your photo album. and if you decide to send a picture to Facebook via "share". than the facebook app is started and doesn't close when done so it's constantly running in memory.
i periodically check my tasks via ATK and kill them when needed. it's a lil tedious but it saves a little on battery life.

asiancuta said:
i know that footprint loads whenever you checkout your photo album. and if you decide to send a picture to Facebook via "share". than the facebook app is started and doesn't close when done so it's constantly running in memory.
i periodically check my tasks via ATK and kill them when needed. it's a lil tedious but it saves a little on battery life.
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No it does not.. And Android will reload them anyway. Don't obsess over what's running in the background.

khaytsus said:
No it does not.. And Android will reload them anyway. Don't obsess over what's running in the background.
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Sorry Man - with all due respect - I can't let the 'Man' control my phone.
Let's stop the unwanted loading of bloatware!

I installed ATK and set it to auto kill all the running aps I dont want as soon as I lock the screen. My battery life has improved significantly. I also installed a new ROM that doesnt have all that AT&T bull crap...Im sure that helped a bit too.

DPLOY said:
Sorry Man - with all due respect - I can't let the 'Man' control my phone.
Let's stop the unwanted loading of bloatware!
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Kill them all you want; Android will reload them as needed.
As for not loading bloatware, wouldn't that be nice.. But you can remove them or load a ROM without them.

http://lifehacker.com/5608163/watchdog-monitors-your-android-for-run+away-processes

I have a new attitude about task killers:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/cwovf/in_light_of_all_the_discussions_right_now_about/
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/cwhm6/i_stopped_using_a_task_killer_last_week_to_see_if/

Help. ADW launcher

hello friends. ive been using adw launcher fr a while... didnt had any issues b4 bt now... whenever i press the home button, adw launcher restarts and all the widgets hav to b loaded again. its ok if it happens like once in 2 days but it happens like almost everytime i press it... nd im really irritated with it.
jus in case u wana knw, im using Estrongs task manager.
waiting fr ur replies. thanks.

did you set ADW to replace default one?

my problem is when i hold the home key (to switch between recent apps) i have to set adw as default again ... and i experience a lot of crashes - mostly when i go back from an app to my home screen .... for me the new version is unusable now

Yes yes. I have.
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go to market and download home swicher this is an application to chosse the action for home button and u can change this action as u want

momerbk said:
im using Estrongs task manager.
waiting fr ur replies. thanks.
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Try uninstalling that and see how you get on.

XperiaX10iUser said:
Try uninstalling that and see how you get on.
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okay.. bt then which task manager should i use? which one gives me the max ram and cpu pfftt i mean which one is the best with which my x10i will run smoothly
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None of them. My advice is not to use them.

Zenghelis said:
None of them. My advice is not to use them.
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but then the phone gets too laggy... esp if ure using a launcher and not a task manager

momerbk said:
okay.. bt then which task manager should i use?
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I use Advanced Task Killer (free version) and works pretty well on my phone. Some people say not to use one but have yet to see any evidence of why not to other than peoples opinions, so it's up to you whether or not you want to use one.

momerbk said:
but then the phone gets too laggy... esp if ure using a launcher and not a task manager
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Mine works much better without task killers. No lags at all... And i tried many of them. It´s just my opinion, dude. You can find many threads about this to get your own: to use or not task killers.
regards
edit: And I use ADW (last update) and 026 firm non rooted. No task killer. No startup manager. And everything is just fine.

Zenghelis said:
Mine works much better without task killers. No lags at all... And i tried many of them. It´s just my opinion, dude. You can find many threads about this to get your own: to use or not task killers.
regards
edit: And I use ADW (last update) and 026 firm non rooted. No task killer. No startup manager. And everything is just fine.
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XperiaX10iUser said:
I use Advanced Task Killer (free version) and works pretty well on my phone. Some people say not to use one but have yet to see any evidence of why not to other than peoples opinions, so it's up to you whether or not you want to use one.
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ohk. ill try to do both things... thanks a lot for the help! =)

I don't feel like writing out the full reason for why not to use a task killer.
Luckily for me, this link explains it nicely.
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
Once you give it a read, you can google around and you will find other sources which give you the same info in a bit more detail.
As for the widget problem? I have yet to experience it unless I am changing a setting on ADW (pretty much any changed setting under ADW settings will result in my widgets reloading). However, I never experience it other than that. I imagine the task killer is your problem.
Good luck!

Again, it is an opinion, but without ATK, I would not be able to fully use ADW. You can explain the logic about why one should or should not use a task killer. My own personal experience shows that my battery and phone performs better with the free version of ATK.
[Note: the link to the geekfor.me as posted by ^^ says that Android automatically kills tasks when more memory is needed. NOT true with the X10. That is why the phone re-starts from time to time. SE's own support site list this as an issue. Once I have started using ATK, my phone does not re-starts by itself anymore].

Terul said:
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
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"Android is hard coded to automatically kill a task when it’s done doing what it needs to do."
So why then does it leave tasks running when you close them, for example, if I use Meridian then close it, the app will still show in the ATK list, and remains there until I shut it down. When you boot the phone, it loads a few apps, that would remain there unless I use ATK. The first reply to the article sums up the experience of a lot of users.

visitador02 said:
Again, it is an opinion, but without ATK, I would not be able to fully use ADW. You can explain the logic about why one should or should not use a task killer. My own personal experience shows that my battery and phone performs better with the free version of ATK.
[Note: the link to the geekfor.me as posted by ^^ says that Android automatically kills tasks when more memory is needed. NOT true with the X10. That is why the phone re-starts from time to time. SE's own support site list this as an issue. Once I have started using ATK, my phone does not re-starts by itself anymore].
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Mine has never re-started itself without task killer.

I use Advanced Task Manager since I started using X10 with ADW Launcher. It was all fine at the begining. Then I reinstalled software and restored aplications (without settings) and started experience the same problem as OP. So I have changed some settings in ADW, especially paying attention to System Preferences and UI settings. I don't know excatly what I have changed but I do NOT experience any problems with ADW "restarting" after that. So in my opinion this problem is down to setting ADW properly, only.

My ADW was experiencing that as well and I enabled ADW Settings > System Preferences > System persistent
This seemed to fix it for me.

ATK and similar apps are a personal choice, I used ATK until late June but since uninstalled the phone had run smoother. But then, it's rooted and overclocked...
ADW is probably the best home, openhome and panda have issues and xxx too crashes too often
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Reeonimus said:
My ADW was experiencing that as well and I enabled ADW Settings > System Preferences > System persistent
This seemed to fix it for me.
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thx to the new version you cant use persistent mode with orientation in landscape(or sensor mode) - i dont get why ...

FR008 - Apps starting automatically

I rooted to FR008 recently and I've noticed that a lot of apps are starting automatically. Far more than the stock ROM. I use atk to kill then but they restart within moments.
yeah, I might be a little ocd about having things running, but the bigger problem is that a bunch of them start up when I turn on mobile data or wifi. everything competes for bandwidth at once
And so it slows down the app I'm trying to use.
Any recommendations?
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when you say they start up, what exactly do you mean? what apps are starting? do they just open and run in the background, or are they forcibly starting and taking over your screen? as for having certain programs start up when turning on some form of data, i've never experienced that particular issue.
don't blindly kill every task thats running, as the android os manages RAM and running apps differently than a windows pc.
i would highly recommend going to this thread and reading the posted links about task managers.

using a task killer on froyo is useless as the apps are restarted rather than killed

Sorry for the delay in replying..
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when you say they start up, what exactly do you mean?
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They start and run in the background. On most, I don't notice except for when I go to my task killer. Others show up with an icon in the task bar when data is turned on (see below)
mattbollenbach said:
what apps are starting?
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On the stock ROM, Google Maps and Internet started up. After FR008, those two plus Stocks, Gmail, EasyTether, Google Finance, Astrid Tasks
mattbollenbach said:
do they just open and run in the background, or are they forcibly starting and taking over your screen?
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In the background.
mattbollenbach said:
as for having certain programs start up when turning on some form of data, i've never experienced that particular issue.
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Yep. When wifi or 3G data connects it goes crazy. I get a sync icon in the task bar (don't know if it's Google finance or Gmail) and most of the above-mentioned apps plus, Yahoo mail (which I do use) all start up and start trying to grab data.
mattbollenbach said:
don't blindly kill every task thats running, as the android os manages RAM and running apps differently than a windows pc.
i would highly recommend going to this thread and reading the posted links about task managers.
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I will read up on this. Thanks!

Task killers are bad mmkay
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Noz85 said:
Task killers are bad mmkay
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+1 - Get rid of any automatic task killer apps.

as far as apps opening and running in the background, as i mentioned, its normal. android handles all of its running processes much differently than a normal computer os. having a lot of programs running isn't necessarily a bad thing, as you'll find through reading the linked post.
with apps syncing as soon as you turn data/wifi on, that also is normal. they don't bother trying when data is shut off, but once theres an available connection, they are going to try and grab the most current data so as to be accurate.
do you use most/any of the apps that are running? if not, many apps that can't be removed normally can be removed via this method.

mattbollenbach said:
with apps syncing as soon as you turn data/wifi on, that also is normal. they don't bother trying when data is shut off, but once theres an available connection, they are going to try and grab the most current data so as to be accurate.
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Would one of the "Autostart" apps be able to prevent this from happening? Often, I want to simply jump on and check my mail or the weather. With 3 or 4 apps starting up & competing for data all at once, I have to wait for a minute or so before I get what I want. This is especially annoying when I'm in an area with a weak reception.
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do you use most/any of the apps that are running? if not, many apps that can't be removed normally can be removed via this method.
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I'll get rid of the ones I don't use, but I do use some of them so I don't want to wipe them all out. That's why it would be nice to be able to configure an Autostart app as noted above..

ShinerDraft said:
Would one of the "Autostart" apps be able to prevent this from happening? Often, I want to simply jump on and check my mail or the weather. With 3 or 4 apps starting up & competing for data all at once, I have to wait for a minute or so before I get what I want. This is especially annoying when I'm in an area with a weak reception.
I'll get rid of the ones I don't use, but I do use some of them so I don't want to wipe them all out. That's why it would be nice to be able to configure an Autostart app as noted above..
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Its mostly you reception then the apps. How many task killers do you have running?
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ShinerDraft said:
Would one of the "Autostart" apps be able to prevent this from happening? Often, I want to simply jump on and check my mail or the weather. With 3 or 4 apps starting up & competing for data all at once, I have to wait for a minute or so before I get what I want. This is especially annoying when I'm in an area with a weak reception.
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you could turn off background data, or at least check your sync options and make sure programs you don't want trying to auto-sync are un-checked. that way, the only program that would use your data connection would be the one you are using at that moment.

Turn off auto-sync if you don't want them to do that. As previously mentioned, as soon as a data connection is available the apps that are set to auto-sync are going to go out and get the most recent data. Turning that off will just mean you have to sync whatever it is manually. But, it will stop the **** from "starting" automatically, which btw, is normal. Just because they are in the background and "running" (<- according to your task killer) doesn't mean they are "running" in the true sense of the word. It also doesn't mean that they are ALL trying to grab data and suck up bandwidth. Maps shouldn't be starting automatically, gmail is normal because you probably have autosync enabled for it. Task killers are detrimental, would advise you stop using them. Also, I used to be OCD like that as well because of how I am on a computer.

The OCD is hard to get over, but I've stopped using the task killer.
I already had AutoSync disabled, but background data was on.
I am going to try something for a few days..
I have JuiceDefender installed, and one of its' features is to turn data on for 2 minutes, twice per hour. My thinking is that letting those apps start automatically and grab what they need on their own will prevent them from jumping on my bandwidth when I manually turn data on for a one particular need.
The reason I didn't do this before is because I get a pretty large quantity of email on my Yahoo account, and don't want notifications bugging me all the time. I just turned off notifications in Ymail (duh!) and will check it when I want. Presumably, with the 2 minute/30 minute data schedule, I won't even have to turn data on to see my recent emails.

Gallery is too SLOW :(

Last time its not like this, but when i try to click now my gallery,
the picture albums are too slow to come up!

Jahy420 said:
Last time its not like this, but when i try to click now my gallery,
the picture albums are too slow to come up!
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Same here. I think it's because I enabled the Facebook Sync feature or I have too many media xD

Ya, kinda' laggy.

The gallery is crap.
Use this:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.alensw.PicFolder&feature=search_result
It's amazing.

Gallery is fine.
The reason it takes ages to load FOR YOU is because you are using task killers that unload it from memory.
Each time you load it up, it has to fully load again, rather than instantaneously popping up.

dsswoosh said:
Gallery is fine.
The reason it takes ages to load FOR YOU is because you are using task killers that unload it from memory.
Each time you load it up, it has to fully load again, rather than instantaneously popping up.
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I have to agree here. I read the "task killers are bad" article and initially dismissed it as "no way" but since getting my Play I have not cleared all my tasks and it definitely runs perfectly fine and seemingly faster than my other Android devices that I religiously killed tasks on.
That said I still run ATK for when I actually have to kill a task, ex:a program is stuck and won't even FC, or my email acts up occasionally and won't retrieve. I find killing the email app and then opening it again cures it.

Red_Kop said:
The gallery is crap.
Use this:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.alensw.PicFolder&feature=search_result
It's amazing.
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I use this aswell. Only complaint is that it says QuickPic at the top. Annoys me xD and the camera icon needs to be bigger.

I've found if I don't force close Gallery, its process will become a huge battery drain and my Play won't last a full day. That said, I do prefer it over Quick Pic, as it does run faster (for me).

dassub said:
I've found if I don't force close Gallery, its process will become a huge battery drain and my Play won't last a full day. That said, I do prefer it over Quick Pic, as it does run faster (for me).
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Nope. Open processes do not drain the battery.
When you are not using them, the Android o/s freezes the process which eliminates processing power and battery power.
The only time an open process will drain your battery is if you are using a custom rom that doesnt support process freezing.

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Nope. Open processes do not drain the battery.
When you are not using them, the Android o/s freezes the process which eliminates processing power and battery power.
The only time an open process will drain your battery is if you are using a custom rom that doesnt support process freezing.
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Problem is, when you go to battery usage when this problem occurs, Gallery does appear as taking up anywhere from 25-35% of the battery life.
Only a phone restart or force close of the app fixes the issue.
It doesn't happen too often anymore.

dassub said:
Problem is, when you go to battery usage when this problem occurs, Gallery does appear as taking up anywhere from 25-35% of the battery life.
Only a phone restart or force close of the app fixes the issue.
It doesn't happen too often anymore.
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I have had my phone on this charge for 11h 28m and 46 seconds. My battery level is at 51%.
I have used the gallery today to show my work friends a couple of photos and a video. (about 30 seconds worth).
Gallery battery usage reports at 0.0%.
Something is wrong with your set up. The gallery works fine on my phone and doesnt drain the battery at all.
I suggest you are either using a custom rom that doesn process freeze the gallery, or you have an app killer that is killing the gallery.
I cant think of anything else it could be.
Hope you fix it anyway. GL

My phone takes a bit to load pictures too. I find that the droid in general needs a better way of shutting down unused programs. Too often do i need to restart my phone to get it working at top notch again.

i used quick pic and its fine now

Jahy420 said:
i used quick pic and its fine now
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Same here....quickpic loads up aLOT faster than gallery

dassub said:
I've found if I don't force close Gallery, its process will become a huge battery drain and my Play won't last a full day. That said, I do prefer it over Quick Pic, as it does run faster (for me).
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My battery sucks lately. It may be since the last xloud update.
I can't get through a day just on standby. If I make a call or two it is dead before I get off work.
I use the task killer all the time and almost never use the gallery and don't use facebook. I do you Go launcher but it wasn't bad before the update.

Don't use the task killer. Install some scripts and custom Init. d scripts. Best way to conserve battery is to install juice defender ultimate
Saves battery 2x.
Lowring battery voltage also helps
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ncaissie said:
My battery sucks lately. It may be since the last xloud update.
I can't get through a day just on standby. If I make a call or two it is dead before I get off work.
I use the task killer all the time and almost never use the gallery and don't use facebook. I do you Go launcher but it wasn't bad before the update.
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Last update had a bug which drains the battery.
There is a fix thread on the forums somewhere that explains why it is bugged.
You need to go to settings, wireless and networks, mobile networks, network operators, then select manual instead of automatic.
The bug is basically that when you leave it on automatic, it will constantaly scan for radio signals whether you have a signal or not.
Took me a while to find out what it was, then someone else found a proper fix for it.

Can you tell me which forun and the thread title with those bugs?
Thanks for the Tip.

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Last update had a bug which drains the battery.
There is a fix thread on the forums somewhere that explains why it is bugged.
You need to go to settings, wireless and networks, mobile networks, network operators, then select manual instead of automatic.
The bug is basically that when you leave it on automatic, it will constantaly scan for radio signals whether you have a signal or not.
Took me a while to find out what it was, then someone else found a proper fix for it.
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Do you have a link about this??

Just select wdma/gsm preferred in the networks settings
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