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How do i close a program in the magic, i dont want it running in the background. Is there a prog like a taskmanager or something..??

Hi ,
Download "advance task manager lite" off the Market. This is a very very helpful app which can close all your programs running and very simple to use. And it is Free.
If you need anymore help feel free to post back
CLLC

There is no such app in my market. Can anyone share a free version? Thanks

parrot5 said:
There is no such app in my market. Can anyone share a free version? Thanks
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It's a free version. The actual name is "Advanced Task Manager Lite" so do a search on "Advanced".

I did do a search and can't find it. Anyone else managed to find it under Rogers in Canada?

I can easy find it. I use it every day, but i find it a bit strange that you cant close apps in any other way! And alot of programs doesnt have a "Quit/Exit" function.
Does anyone have any explanation to why its not possible to close programs without download extra programs?

you know,
I think i heard Something about when you leave the app , it does actually sort of close.
It saves the state you left it in (freezes) and unfreezes when you enter it again. So really the App is not running or using any comsumption at all until you are in the app.

CLLC said:
you know,
I think i heard Something about when you leave the app , it does actually sort of close.
It saves the state you left it in (freezes) and unfreezes when you enter it again. So really the App is not running or using any comsumption at all until you are in the app.
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This is true.
It is because android is awesome at app management. There is no real need for closing apps. It leaves apps kinda open (saves their state in ram) but not running. That`s why most apps open so fast. And even though more ram is "in use" it doesn`t cost you battery life.

Thanks for confirming ,
What a fantatic way , The OS is fantastic and I can guarantee that Android has alot of potential and Can only get better and come up with more technological breaking idea's!!
CLLC

CLLC said:
you know,
I think i heard Something about when you leave the app , it does actually sort of close.
It saves the state you left it in (freezes) and unfreezes when you enter it again. So really the App is not running or using any comsumption at all until you are in the app.
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Oh i didnt know that!! Sounds really fantastic. I have to get used to a whole new way of thinking then, i think im too used to windows
Anyway. I love Android more and more. But i was shocked when i found out that you cant send or receive files via bluetooth. I hope this is their number 1. priority in the next released. I mean, comon .. phones have been able to do this for 10 years now!

parrot5 said:
I did do a search and can't find it. Anyone else managed to find it under Rogers in Canada?
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i did not find it either. i m using rogers too
but you can download Close Everything at Market for free.
i think those apps are similar. the only difference is you have to close EVERYTHING instead of choosing an app to end it.
anyway, the system is not getting slower even i open lots apps.
maybe, the "freeze" thing is true

yesterday I had my phone fully charged before i got to sleep, in the morning 8 hours later the battery was almost empty. GPS and WIFI was disabeld, so I think all the programs in the "background" ( a lot ) killed the battery.
Or what do you think killed the batt?

nevil said:
i did not find it either. i m using rogers too
but you can download Close Everything at Market for free.
i think those apps are similar. the only difference is you have to close EVERYTHING instead of choosing an app to end it.
anyway, the system is not getting slower even i open lots apps.
maybe, the "freeze" thing is true
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But I thought if you close EVERYTHING the alarm will not work?

foxman01 said:
yesterday I had my phone fully charged before i got to sleep, in the morning 8 hours later the battery was almost empty. GPS and WIFI was disabeld, so I think all the programs in the "background" ( a lot ) killed the battery.
Or what do you think killed the batt?
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that did not happen to me yet
if you disable background data usage in data sync that will save batt life and lower data usage too.
do not know if that helps at all

parrot5 said:
But I thought if you close EVERYTHING the alarm will not work?
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alarms still work (tested just now)
i do not know how that app works ~oops~
maybe it does not work at all hahaha

not all programs stop running. some are designed to run in the background
the only real way to check what is running is to use a task manager
I paid $0.99 for advanced task manager. Its a good, but basic app. And hardly breaks the bank at that price!
The other issue I get is "go slows" sometimes on the phone. It doesn't seem to crash, just response times go into the seconds. I switch off and on to soft reset and its fine.

nevil said:
that did not happen to me yet
if you disable background data usage in data sync that will save batt life and lower data usage too.
do not know if that helps at all
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Why should I disable data usage? If i have an app that use data, then I only need to close the app. Please correct me if I´m wrong.

Is there anyway to keep progrms from auto starting?

I was wondering if there is a way to keep all of these damn stock programs from auto starting and running in the background? I downloaded Advance task killer and I always seem tons of crap running I did not start.
Would the only fix be to flash a new ROM on it?

I dont mess too much with task killers, but I believe some can autokill apps that you specify when they start running. You can also remove apps completely via command line if you don't use them at all.

autostarts. it's .99 in the market.

Alright. But nothing free huh? haha. Even after I kill it, some of the programs will still start up in an hour or so.

mroneeyedboh said:
Alright. But nothing free huh? haha. Even after I kill it, some of the programs will still start up in an hour or so.
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are the programs that keep popping up necessary?
If not, remove via command line or be willing to taskkill it, if it bothers you.
also, autostarts has different environment variables (start up, connection changed, usb plugged in, etc.) to specify when to kill what apps (I'm not pimpin it, I'm just sayin its a good program)

Oh. Maybe I'll get it, I mean its only 99 cents I have to figure out how to buy apps. Thanks though.

autostarts I can not find
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autostarts. it's .99 in the market.
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I looked on the net, but I can not find the program. Can you link it?
I now use "ProcessKiller alias HTCDlg_killer" on my HTC TP2, but I do not see any killing.
Thanx in advance.

mroneeyedboh said:
I was wondering if there is a way to keep all of these damn stock programs from auto starting and running in the background?
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Some applications are SUPPOSED to be running all the time. Others the phone starts up so that their response time is better.
Arbitrarily killing applications is a sure-fire way to crash the phone. If you can be bothered to provide a list of what you see, someone can advise you what to leave alone.

Jamboman said:
I looked on the net, but I can not find the program. Can you link it?
I now use "ProcessKiller alias HTCDlg_killer" on my HTC TP2, but I do not see any killing.
Thanx in advance.
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http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-elsdoerfer-android-autostarts-jppi.aspx
no prob

why do my apps turn on automatically ?

I have Home++ I use the kill all feature on the rocket dock. it then says your free memory is 160mb. which am happy with, and then 5 - 10 minutes later, with my phone just being idle, i click on to see what apps are running and. i have about 15 apps running. from doing nothing.
Not sure why my apps run automatically, also when i turn on my phone, every single app turns on. WTF!!!

It's meant to. That is how android and linux works.
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duffy1807 said:
I have Home++ I use the kill all feature on the rocket dock. it then says your free memory is 160mb. which am happy with, and then 5 - 10 minutes later, with my phone just being idle, i click on to see what apps are running and. i have about 15 apps running. from doing nothing.
Not sure why my apps run automatically, also when i turn on my phone, every single app turns on. WTF!!!
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just let them run. stop killing them.

lifeflayer said:
just let them run. stop killing them.
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Great idea, and let my phone be unusable due to the slowness [thumbs up]

duffy1807 said:
Great idea, and let my phone be unusable due to the slowness [thumbs up]
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thats simply not the way it works, let them run, if the o/s sees there is another program that wants some ram it will clear some by killing lesser priority apps.

I stopped using task killers about 3 weeks ago. My phone runs much quicker now I've stopped killing everything... Let the tech do it's own thing and it works surprisingly well....
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duffy1807 said:
Great idea, and let my phone be unusable due to the slowness [thumbs up]
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have you even tried to use the phone without a task manager? the apps in the background are in a frozen state, which means they are simply cached in the ram so when you restart them they open instantly AND retain the old state. there is absolutely no reason to kill an program unless the program bugged out.

mine runs ok i have this kind of apps called FSFILE EXPLORER in this apps wen i hit the menu you can see task manager then all previous apps that i open it highlighted into green color hit kill selected witch is highlighted then memory increase.... nothing is running on the idle.

unused ram is wasted ram

Ok guys will uninstall my task killer and see how i get on thanks

The advice of not killing aps doesn't really wash when you have apps that cause battery drain. I find that killing apps increases battery life.

alitech said:
The advice of not killing aps doesn't really wash when you have apps that cause battery drain. I find that killing apps increases battery life.
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get rid of those apps and get better ones

The apps are the stock apps that come with the firmware. You cant get rid of them mate.

The apps are the stock apps that come with the firmware. You cant get rid of them mate.

unused ram is wasted ram
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So using more ram doesn't use more battery? ;-)
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yetep said:
So using more ram doesn't use more battery? ;-)
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ΝΟ. (ten characters)

So when the X10 first got released, everyone was blaming Moxier for being a battery pig regardless if you were using it or not. Are we now saying that isn't true?

That's correct - Moxier doesn't use any juice (not noticeable anyway).. I ran a test with wifi off and data/ mms off over night.. so it was just basically a dumb phone with loads of fancy apps.. it used 2% in about 8 hours...
No start up auditor, no task manager... I am running Helix Launcher.

It's natural to not want apps running in the background. What's the first thing you want to do to optimise your PC? Remove unused startup processes and background tasks. It's more important for a phone which has more limited resources than a PC.
I don't use Moxier Mail, Timescape or PlayNow. But for some reason they all open themselves up in the background every so often.

Iceman, I feel pretty lame for trying to manage the apps so much. Going to try a the same test tonight to see what happens.
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Help. ADW launcher

hello friends. ive been using adw launcher fr a while... didnt had any issues b4 bt now... whenever i press the home button, adw launcher restarts and all the widgets hav to b loaded again. its ok if it happens like once in 2 days but it happens like almost everytime i press it... nd im really irritated with it.
jus in case u wana knw, im using Estrongs task manager.
waiting fr ur replies. thanks.

did you set ADW to replace default one?

my problem is when i hold the home key (to switch between recent apps) i have to set adw as default again ... and i experience a lot of crashes - mostly when i go back from an app to my home screen .... for me the new version is unusable now

Yes yes. I have.
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go to market and download home swicher this is an application to chosse the action for home button and u can change this action as u want

momerbk said:
im using Estrongs task manager.
waiting fr ur replies. thanks.
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Try uninstalling that and see how you get on.

XperiaX10iUser said:
Try uninstalling that and see how you get on.
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okay.. bt then which task manager should i use? which one gives me the max ram and cpu pfftt i mean which one is the best with which my x10i will run smoothly
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None of them. My advice is not to use them.

Zenghelis said:
None of them. My advice is not to use them.
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but then the phone gets too laggy... esp if ure using a launcher and not a task manager

momerbk said:
okay.. bt then which task manager should i use?
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I use Advanced Task Killer (free version) and works pretty well on my phone. Some people say not to use one but have yet to see any evidence of why not to other than peoples opinions, so it's up to you whether or not you want to use one.

momerbk said:
but then the phone gets too laggy... esp if ure using a launcher and not a task manager
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Mine works much better without task killers. No lags at all... And i tried many of them. It´s just my opinion, dude. You can find many threads about this to get your own: to use or not task killers.
regards
edit: And I use ADW (last update) and 026 firm non rooted. No task killer. No startup manager. And everything is just fine.

Zenghelis said:
Mine works much better without task killers. No lags at all... And i tried many of them. It´s just my opinion, dude. You can find many threads about this to get your own: to use or not task killers.
regards
edit: And I use ADW (last update) and 026 firm non rooted. No task killer. No startup manager. And everything is just fine.
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XperiaX10iUser said:
I use Advanced Task Killer (free version) and works pretty well on my phone. Some people say not to use one but have yet to see any evidence of why not to other than peoples opinions, so it's up to you whether or not you want to use one.
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ohk. ill try to do both things... thanks a lot for the help! =)

I don't feel like writing out the full reason for why not to use a task killer.
Luckily for me, this link explains it nicely.
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
Once you give it a read, you can google around and you will find other sources which give you the same info in a bit more detail.
As for the widget problem? I have yet to experience it unless I am changing a setting on ADW (pretty much any changed setting under ADW settings will result in my widgets reloading). However, I never experience it other than that. I imagine the task killer is your problem.
Good luck!

Again, it is an opinion, but without ATK, I would not be able to fully use ADW. You can explain the logic about why one should or should not use a task killer. My own personal experience shows that my battery and phone performs better with the free version of ATK.
[Note: the link to the geekfor.me as posted by ^^ says that Android automatically kills tasks when more memory is needed. NOT true with the X10. That is why the phone re-starts from time to time. SE's own support site list this as an issue. Once I have started using ATK, my phone does not re-starts by itself anymore].

Terul said:
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
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"Android is hard coded to automatically kill a task when it’s done doing what it needs to do."
So why then does it leave tasks running when you close them, for example, if I use Meridian then close it, the app will still show in the ATK list, and remains there until I shut it down. When you boot the phone, it loads a few apps, that would remain there unless I use ATK. The first reply to the article sums up the experience of a lot of users.

visitador02 said:
Again, it is an opinion, but without ATK, I would not be able to fully use ADW. You can explain the logic about why one should or should not use a task killer. My own personal experience shows that my battery and phone performs better with the free version of ATK.
[Note: the link to the geekfor.me as posted by ^^ says that Android automatically kills tasks when more memory is needed. NOT true with the X10. That is why the phone re-starts from time to time. SE's own support site list this as an issue. Once I have started using ATK, my phone does not re-starts by itself anymore].
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Mine has never re-started itself without task killer.

I use Advanced Task Manager since I started using X10 with ADW Launcher. It was all fine at the begining. Then I reinstalled software and restored aplications (without settings) and started experience the same problem as OP. So I have changed some settings in ADW, especially paying attention to System Preferences and UI settings. I don't know excatly what I have changed but I do NOT experience any problems with ADW "restarting" after that. So in my opinion this problem is down to setting ADW properly, only.

My ADW was experiencing that as well and I enabled ADW Settings > System Preferences > System persistent
This seemed to fix it for me.

ATK and similar apps are a personal choice, I used ATK until late June but since uninstalled the phone had run smoother. But then, it's rooted and overclocked...
ADW is probably the best home, openhome and panda have issues and xxx too crashes too often
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Reeonimus said:
My ADW was experiencing that as well and I enabled ADW Settings > System Preferences > System persistent
This seemed to fix it for me.
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thx to the new version you cant use persistent mode with orientation in landscape(or sensor mode) - i dont get why ...

Is this a new task manager?

check out this screen shot from the new Desire HD. The notification bar looks like it might have a task manager built-in

Everything looks standard to me.
GPS acquiring signal icon, 3g/evdo/whatever icon, battery, time, calendar, missed calls.
Places, market, settings, possibly vpn off to the side.
Don't see any hint of any kind of task manager.

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Places, market, settings, possibly vpn off to the side.
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that's not standard.
when you pull down your notification bar on the evo its takes up the full screen. there's no app list like that. and that's what I'm talking about. And iphone like task manager

evilecho said:
that's not standard.
when you pull down your notification bar on the evo its takes up the full screen. there's no app list like that. and that's what I'm talking about. And iphone like task manager
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Ok, is it that hard to use the applications manager in froyo? Just put a widget on the home screen for it.
An iphone like task manager? Why not just buy the iphone? The evo is what it is and what it is not is an iphone.

watch the video on engadget, its not a task manager just a list of recently used apps. same list you will find by long pressing the home key

Dont mean to step on anyones toes but to me it looks like a recent apps list more then anything else.
Lets not forget that task managers arnt needed with android it performs its own app killing when needed. If you read up on how andriod works you will see its better when its left to do its job. So unless the HTC crew has surcumed to idioucy then I highly doubt they plan to include a task manager.

lovethyEVO said:
Ok, is it that hard to use the applications manager in froyo? Just put a widget on the home screen for it.
An iphone like task manager? Why not just buy the iphone? The evo is what it is and what it is not is an iphone.
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Dude what's your deal. I was just asking if that's a new task manager... No need to go off

evilecho said:
Dude what's your deal. I was just asking if that's a new task manager... No need to go off
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Wasn't going off. If it came off as such then I apologize. It's hard to make calm statements on a forum since the written word can be interpreted in many ways from it's intention. Take from it what you will.
Anyways, it gets old hearing about people wanting "iphone this" and "iphone that" on their evos. Their must have been something you liked about the evo to buy it so why change it into something it's not is all I was trying to get at.
The previous posts described it better than I did though, it looks like a recently used apps list.

nevermind.

Tension in the thread.
I like that tho.
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Yeah they're recently used apps. Video guys says so, in video.

lovethyEVO said:
Everything looks standard to me.
GPS acquiring signal icon, 3g/evdo/whatever icon, battery, time, calendar, missed calls.
Places, market, settings, possibly vpn off to the side.
Don't see any hint of any kind of task manager.
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No, everything doesn't look standard in that screenshot. It has the recently used apps list (aka task manager) built into the notification pull down. Just another way of accessing it, rather than having to long press the home button.
Nice feature/addition to the new Sense imo.

Philosuffer said:
No, everything doesn't look standard in that screenshot. It has the recently used apps list (aka task manager) built into the notification pull down. Just another way of accessing it, rather than having to long press the home button.
Nice feature/addition to the new Sense imo.
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The term task manager is being thrown around but not being used properly.
You can't call it a task manager if it's a list of recently used apps. A task manager manages active tasks, it doesn't list recently/previously used tasks/apps.
Take windows for example, when you pull up the built-in task manager (ctrl+alt+delete) do you see a list of recently used apps/tasks in there? Nope, you see active tasks and processes.
Again, I don't see any hint of a task manager and everything looks standard.

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Again, I don't see any hint of a task manager and everything looks standard.
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Fine, it's not a task manager. It's a recently used (possibly still running) list of apps. However, that is not "standard" for Sense to have a recently used apps list in the notification pull down area seeing as how it is a new feature. It may become (a) standard among Sense, but it isn't yet.
If it was standard, I could go to any cellphone store and look at any/all of the HTC phones running Sense, pull down the notification bar and see list of recently used/running apps. Not gonna happen....

Someone is a little pissy. Anyway, it does look like a recent app's list - I would like this more than holding down the home button
Edit: I guess it's been confirmed it's the recent app's list

lovethyEVO said:
Ok, is it that hard to use the applications manager in froyo? Just put a widget on the home screen for it.
An iphone like task manager? Why not just buy the iphone? The evo is what it is and what it is not is an iphone.
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Ass Much ? geez the guy asked a simple question

Philosuffer said:
Fine, it's not a task manager. It's a recently used (possibly still running) list of apps. However, that is not "standard" for Sense to have a recently used apps list in the notification pull down area seeing as how it is a new feature. It may become (a) standard among Sense, but it isn't yet.
If it was standard, I could go to any cellphone store and look at any/all of the HTC phones running Sense, pull down the notification bar and see list of recently used/running apps. Not gonna happen....
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I meant standard as in everything that was there that already exists in sense.
Again I was looking for a task manager not a recently used apps list. The list I can't deny is not standard. But if people really wanted it I'm pretty sure it would be available ota as part of a new update.
What I'm more interested in is the resource impact this "new" sense version will have.

Sporkman said:
Ass Much ? geez the guy asked a simple question
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Again, it's hard to make a simply calm statement over a web forum as the written word can be misinterpreted in many ways.
I wasn't intentionally trying to be a **** about it. That's just how it was interpreted.

edit: dohhh

Someone needs to stop making screenshots and go to lunch.