Hi!
Is it worth it to trip knox and root my phone?
Is there any features I lose doing so?
mattan1999 said:
Hi!
Is it worth it to trip knox and root my phone?
Is there any features I lose doing so?
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No one?
i think so, i tried to root but didn't work but i'll try again,knox means nothing to me, i always root my phones.
You will not be able to use Samsung Pay if you root your phone. As there is no way to reset knox, you will never get to use samsung pay when it's up and running in your country..
mattan1999 said:
Hi!
Is it worth it to trip knox and root my phone?
Is there any features I lose doing so?
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Not to mention that tripping knox counter will result in losing your warranty
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My s5 currently is rooted and KNOX is 0x0. I want to flash something more exciting to it but what can I do about KNOX? Can I Remove It Before it is tripped or does it happen no matter what?
Hi - Sorry I don't know the answer to your question but could you share how you managed to root your phone without tripping Knox? All guides / info I have read says Knox will be 0x1 after root and as such I cannot / have not rooted.
Thanks
you cannot remove KNOX.
If you flash anything - KNOX goes to 0x1 making you void your warranty
dieselboy said:
Hi - Sorry I don't know the answer to your question but could you share how you managed to root your phone without tripping Knox? All guides / info I have read says Knox will be 0x1 after root and as such I cannot / have not rooted.
Thanks
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Visit this thread https://towelroot.com/ on your phone and click the lambda and follow instructions. KNOX will stay on 0x0.
Thanks !
It seems within the last 2 weeks after almost everyone saying "rooting will trip Knox and don't count on anything different any time soon" that rooting now does not trip Knox
Very pleased, I am.
And thanks for the link. Seems not everyone knows about this yet.
KNOX
Understood. But is the warranty that important?
Sure using towelroot to root your device won't trip knox but once you flash a custom recovery so you can use custom roms, kernels etc it will
What happens after you disable KNOX from SuperSU?
I thought that you could do anything you want and KNOX will be 0x0 since it's "disabled".
forsberg78 said:
What happens after you disable KNOX from SuperSU?
I thought that you could do anything you want and KNOX will be 0x0 since it's "disabled".
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Iirc Knox is implemented in the boot loader which can't be hacked, so Knox will always be there
If you live in Europe, Knox isn't a factor
DSA said:
Iirc Knox is implemented in the boot loader which can't be hacked, so Knox will always be there
If you live in Europe, Knox isn't a factor
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Quote: `If you live in Europe, Knox isn't a factor`.
Can you explain this a bit more please, or do you mean warranty wise
gee2012 said:
Quote: `If you live in Europe, Knox isn't a factor`.
Can you explain this a bit more please, or do you mean warranty wise
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Yeah. I Would like this explained. If KNOX isnt a factor in Europe Then Thats A Plus For Me.
Wildey1771 said:
Yeah. I Would like this explained. If KNOX isnt a factor in Europe Then Thats A Plus For Me.
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They are referring to some regula by EU Laws, which indirectly tells that manufacture cannot deny warranty because of rooting.
At same time, organization in my country responsible about these kind of claims says, they agree on Samsungs warranty paper, which says we are not allowed to root. So If I would want justice in my country, it can be done only by court!
So dont count on EU law helping... may work and may not.
gee2012 said:
Quote: `If you live in Europe, Knox isn't a factor`.
Can you explain this a bit more please, or do you mean warranty wise
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Warranty...there are laws here that supercede it, but the above post is basically true (although two people I know who had rooted and used the warranty didn't have to go to court)
txr33 said:
Sure using towelroot to root your device won't trip knox but once you flash a custom recovery so you can use custom roms, kernels etc it will
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Understood.
However in my case all I want to do right now is disable the silly camera shutter sound.
Alright, So Im From The UK. I Want To Get Rid Of Silly Touchwiz which Samsung loves to use. To do so I know I need to flash a different ROM. Doing this will flag KNOX. KNOX being flagged will void warranty. Should I Care About Warranty? Or Should I Flash Away?
Wildey1771 said:
Alright, So Im From The UK. I Want To Get Rid Of Silly Touchwiz which Samsung loves to use. To do so I know I need to flash a different ROM. Doing this will flag KNOX. KNOX being flagged will void warranty. Should I Care About Warranty? Or Should I Flash Away?
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Not necessarily.. Have you heard of "Themer"? I was running themer on my completely stock Note3. You have a wide selection of touchwiz replacements. Take a looksie.
Knox will be tripped if you load a custom recovery or kernel.
Apart from resale reasons, why is everyone so worried about going 0x1?
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Inm8 said:
Knox will be tripped if you load a custom recovery or kernel.
Apart from resale reasons, why is everyone so worried about going 0x1?
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Perhaps because it may void people's phone warranty.
born4trance said:
Perhaps because it may void people's phone warranty.
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True, didn't think about how many people actually used that.
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Inm8 said:
True, didn't think about how many people actually used that.
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Hopefully not many. You'd expect Samsungs warranty return % to be very low. I wonder if there are published figures, but I would hope <0.1% of customers. However, after a few months of using your device you would know if you need to warranty the phone or not. Then I guess you wouldn't mind going 0x1.
Is this true? Supposedly with this program for windows the official 5.0.1 lollipop rom N910FXXU1BOB4 can be rooted (maybe without tripping knox???)
https://twitter.com/srsroot/status/572313962311774209
sxjg23 said:
Is this true? Supposedly with this program for windows the official 5.0.1 lollipop rom N910FXXU1BOB4 can be rooted (maybe without tripping knox???)
https://twitter.com/srsroot/status/572313962311774209
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Fk.. u cant trip knox. Why thats so hard to believe ? Btw, this theard is in wrong section.
rs tony said:
Fk.. u cant trip knox. Why thats so hard to believe ? Btw, this theard is in wrong section.
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when I said "without tripping knox" i meant: without increasing the knox counter to 1 and thus invalidating the warranty.
So if it works it could be the first method to root preserving the warranty.
I haven't tried though.
Anyone?
sxjg23 said:
when I said "without tripping knox" i meant: without increasing the knox counter to 1 and thus invalidating the warranty.
So if it works it could be the first method to root preserving the warranty.
I haven't tried though.
Anyone?
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does it says anywhere that it won't trip knox?
i've looked but haven't seen anything about that.
so why would you think about something like that? if it would be possible it would've been huge news everywhere
so i think it's safe to assume you thought completely wrong about that it won't trip knox :good:
Psycho_666 said:
does it says anywhere that it won't trip knox?
i've looked but haven't seen anything about that.
so why would you think about something like that? if it would be possible it would've been huge news everywhere
so i think it's safe to assume you thought completely wrong about that it won't trip knox :good:
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we don't know if it trips knox until someone tries it and post it the results here.
sxjg23 said:
we don't know if it trips knox until someone tries it and post it the results here.
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Dear sxjg23. Be our guest and give it a try.
Please let us know the result.
Nowhere to read if it don't trip Knox. It looks the same as the Kingo root server based method. My advice : root with Chainfire's solution via Odin. Yes, it trips Knox but it'a a safe and proven method.
I've tried both methods of SRSRoot, which says it's rooted but actually it's not. Some apps (root checker, titanium backup) complain it's not rooted.
Maybe I'm doing something bad.
I'll use the well-proven cf-root method instead.
I've read online that if you trip KNOX verification that the phone disables the functionality of Samsung pay.
I'm just asking if there has been anyone who has rooted and flashed a custom ROM and then successfully been able to use Samsung pay.
the warranty isn't what I'm worried about its the fact that it would prevent me from using new features released.
Thanks in advance,
Joshhumpy said:
I've read online that if you trip KNOX verification that the phone disables the functionality of Samsung pay.
I'm just asking if there has been anyone who has rooted and flashed a custom ROM and then successfully been able to use Samsung pay.
the warranty isn't what I'm worried about its the fact that it would prevent me from using new features released.
Thanks in advance,
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since the knox is tripped from 0x0 to 0x1, samsung pay stops working. Even if you are you using a custom rom, it ain't gonna work
success123 said:
since the knox is tripped from 0x0 to 0x1, samsung pay stops working. Even if you are you using a custom rom, it ain't gonna work
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That's dissapointing is it worth it to root and flash the new ROMs then?
Joshhumpy said:
That's dissapointing is it worth it to root and flash the new ROMs then?
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Yes... Go for it...
/CK
I have heard that magisk versions above v12 can do it but never tried eventually so if you know if it can or something that can root without tripping knox please tell me.
and one more question does Kingroot trip knox. I dont want to root with Kingroot but yea...
There is no way to root without tripping Knox.
Magisk can hide knox counter from apps, but it cannot reset the counter, nor can it root without tripping it.
Kingroot will trip it as well.
Kingroot won't work for s8.
You can root then set knox to 0x0 on the PHONE only. Download mode will still show 0x1 and knox tripped.
Only thing you lose rooting is Samsung pay. And maybe warranty depending on region.
callumbr1 said:
Kingroot won't work for s8.
You can root then set knox to 0x0 on the PHONE only. Download mode will still show 0x1 and knox tripped.
Only thing you lose rooting is Samsung pay. And maybe warranty depending on region.
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if you have vodafone insurance tripping know will invalidate your claim.
djisgod said:
if you have vodafone insurance tripping know will invalidate your claim.
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I insure through protect your bubble or EE. They have always fixed or repaired my rooted phones. Just restored before hand. Crappy of Vodafone to do that haha
Skander1998 said:
Magisk can hide knox counter from apps, but it cannot reset the counter, nor can it root without tripping it.
Kingroot will trip it as well.
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yeah I thats what I thought. I dont even know if I want to root it for now.. Like it already has alot of features and there aren't that much you can do with root for the S8.. yea you can install roms or stuff but i like the stock rom.
callumbr1 said:
Kingroot won't work for s8.
You can root then set knox to 0x0 on the PHONE only. Download mode will still show 0x1 and knox tripped.
Only thing you lose rooting is Samsung pay. And maybe warranty depending on region.
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Actually Kingroot started to download something when I hit Root soo I guess it works and I don't even use samsung pay my country doesn't support it.
detailed_ said:
Actually Kingroot started to download something when I hit Root soo I guess it works and I don't even use samsung pay my country doesn't support it.
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Yeah it will always start on all devices, then most likely fail around 40%. Only phone I ever got to work with kingroot was an old alcatel pixi.
There's a few advantages of rooting s8 but depends what you use root for. If you do want to root I suggest TWRP and magisk.
Hello guys,
i have got new toy (SG8) and looking to root it without tripping Knox. Before, i had Nexus device and it was super easy to root. Please do let me know if there is a way, thanks,
zaffar.mughal said:
Hello guys,
i have got new toy (SG8) and looking to root it without tripping Knox. Before, i had Nexus device and it was super easy to root. Please do let me know if there is a way, thanks,
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no way.
all method tripping knox
zaffar.mughal said:
Hello guys,
i have got new toy (SG8) and looking to root it without tripping Knox. Before, i had Nexus device and it was super easy to root. Please do let me know if there is a way, thanks,
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What model? G950F/FD? G950U? There is a very simple way to root G950U/G950W devices already in existence. It's called SamFail and is listed with an accompanying rom in the threads section.
khaled147 said:
no way.
all method tripping knox
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False. See above.
partcyborg said:
What model? G950F/FD? G950U? There is a very simple way to root G950U/G950W devices already in existence. It's called SamFail and is listed with an accompanying rom in the threads section.
False. See above.
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What about the Exynos G950F?
chr0m said:
What about the Exynos G950F?
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Sadly, currently there is no way of rooting Exynos S8 without tripping knox..
Unfortunately as mentioned above and beyond there is no way currently without tripping Knox. Sadly, I use Samsung Pay alot and like the idea of keeping that option hence no rooting as long as this device is my DD.
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A question if anyone can help me.
I really need to Root my Galaxy S8 (SM-G950F) cause i need to try to recover some photos and most apps to recover need the root done.
I know that root trips Knox, but if i install an official firmware after been tripped, will phone get back to normal, or it will tripped forever??
Thanks
MeGaBeSuNTa said:
A question if anyone can help me.
I really need to Root my Galaxy S8 (SM-G950F) cause i need to try to recover some photos and most apps to recover need the root done.
I know that root trips Knox, but if i install an official firmware after been tripped, will phone get back to normal, or it will tripped forever??
Thanks
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It physically trips knox warranty, so if it’s tripped once, you can’t recover it unless you replace motherboard.
blackbox0209 said:
It physically trips knox warranty, so if it’s tripped once, you can’t recover it unless you replace motherboard.
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But once I install an official firmware, I will be able to use Knox and Samsung pay again?
Thanks
MeGaBeSuNTa said:
But once I install an official firmware, I will be able to use Knox and Samsung pay again?
Thanks
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Nope, you won't be able to use it again, even after you install an official firmware afterwards.