I want to root and keep stock ROM and stock recovery and all.
Basically only want to delete bloat with titanium and use greenify.
Will this trigger Knox? Is it even possible?
no, any rooting currently triggers the knox counter
clninja said:
I want to root and keep stock ROM and stock recovery and all.
Basically only want to delete bloat with titanium and use greenify.
Will this trigger Knox? Is it even possible?
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if u r using greenify donate, the xposed installer has to be version 2.3 beta 1. version 2.2 encountered "cannot write /data/xposed/modules.list" error.
i spent quite some time trouble shooting as the xposed forum thread did not mention the beta version on the opening post.
It may be possible to remove bloatware without root:
http://pocketnow.com/2013/01/04/how-to-remove-bloatware
Please note, I have NOT tried it, so cannot vouch for its veracity or safety. If anyone can, I'd be grateful.
As I understand it now, there are no methods to root without increasing the counter Knox is true?
Thank you so much for the help
If you come from s4 you should know it is the same. If not yes is true.
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It seemed to me that it had been found a method to root on note3 said "della vega" which did not increase the counter
And if I'm not mistaken there's still a way to reset the counter when amended
I love using Wanam Xposed along with the extra power the Xposed framework gives to Greenify but I found an issue with it on the S5. When you install the framework S Health no longer works. Anyone else find this or is it just my S5?
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I love using Wanam Xposed along with the extra power the Xposed framework gives to Greenify but I found an issue with it on the S5. When you install the framework S Health no longer works. Anyone else find this or is it just my S5?
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im also having the same problem , try posting on there thread and see if you can get anyhelp
this is my log file for the error when s health crashes
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/framework-xposed-rom-modding-modifying-t1574401
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/framework-xposed-rom-modding-modifying-t1574401
I have posted in the Xposed forum so will see if I get anywhere.
Hmm I did have a reply but tapatalk wasn't showing there being one. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2725405
The problem has something to do with disabling knox after rooting. If you do not disable knox, s-health seems to be ok, but after disabling it, it has issues. Some people have restored, rerooted, keeping knox and resolved the issue.
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The problem has something to do with disabling knox after rooting. If you do not disable knox, s-health seems to be ok, but after disabling it, it has issues. Some people have restored, rerooted, keeping knox and resolved the issue.
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happen to have a link to thread where users have done the above looking for a bit more info on this.
far I knew knew there was no way to root and recovery without tripping knox
Tripping the Knox flag us not the issue, the issue us when you disable know in #su afterwards. You can root and keep Knox running and it eliminates these issues
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happen to have a link to thread where users have done the above looking for a bit more info on this.
far I knew knew there was no way to root and recovery without tripping knox
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Tripping the Knox flag us not the issue, the issue us when you disable know in #su afterwards. You can root and keep Knox running and it eliminates these issues
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So how do you root and keep knox in intact with recovery?
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Yes, when it asks you if you want to disable Knox, you choose no
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So how do you root and keep knox in intact with recovery?
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Yes, when it asks you if you want to disable Knox, you choose no
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Ok thanks do
You have the thread handy should how to revert back when Knox is disabled?
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I used Chainfire's root and don't remember disabling Knox.
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Tripping the Knox flag is not the issue, the issue us when you disable knox in #su afterwards. You can root and keep Knox running and it eliminates these issues
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carbonize said:
I used Chainfire's root and don't remember disabling Knox.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2696537
Using this root increases your flash counter and trips the KNOX warranty flag!
maybe i'm reading what other post said key word "disable"
I never disabled knox but did trip the flag
Pretty much any rooting method to date or any unsecured bootloader will trip the Knox flag. If you don't want to trip the flag, you're going to have to stay bone stock. There's a difference in tripping the flag and disabling the Knox software. When you root and choose to disable Knox, that's when people have issues with some Sammy apps
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I'm trying to understand... are people disabling Knox themselves before/after they install Xposed, or is Xposed disabling Knox automatically?
Anyway to test if Knox is enabled or not?
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Pretty much any rooting method to date or any unsecured bootloader will trip the Knox flag. If you don't want to trip the flag, you're going to have to stay bone stock. There's a difference in tripping the flag and disabling the Knox software. When you root and choose to disable Knox, that's when people have issues with some Sammy apps
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The problem has something to do with disabling knox after rooting. If you do not disable knox, s-health seems to be ok, but after disabling it, it has issues. Some people have restored, rerooted, keeping knox and resolved the issue.
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can you explain this more please you stated that some people are restoring and rerooting and keeping knox enabled then s health works fine. but searching the forums I am unable to find any reference to this or how to do this.;
would also like to know a way to tell if knox is enabled or disabled , I know my knox flag is tripped but far as I know I never disabled it , if that's the case then if knox is the issue then my s health should be working fine.
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maybe a better question is this
risestar2 are you rooted with recovery and have xposed installed with s health working fine ? on the galaxy s5
Surely the big question is what is Xposed doing that stops it working as it works fine until I install Xposed.
carbonize said:
Surely the big question is what is Xposed doing that stops it working as it works fine until I install Xposed.
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would like to know as well
mine works fine even after installing xposed ,its when you install the framework in xposed that makes s health crash as if I uninstall the framework from within xposed and reboot , s health is fine again , I took my logcat files and have posted them but no luck form anyone yet
I'll try to find the thread, but essentially it's this.
You root your phone using one of the 2 preferred methods, both of which trigger your one time Knox flag.
Installing root installs the #su app. Upon starting this for the first time, you should be prompted that Knox is running, do you want to disable? Yes/No.
People that choose yes are having difficulty using some Sammy apps, including so health and private mode. People that don't disable Knox are not having these issues.
You may be able to re-enable Knox in #su, or your best bet is factory restore and then reroot and choose not to disable Knox (root and everything still works fine)
You can troubleshoot it by Uninstalling all xposed framework and modules and testing all Sammy apps. If they work fine then the issue is a compatibility issue with xposed or xposed and another app or modification. If they don't work with xposed Uninstaller then the issue is likely Knox related and you likely need to re-enable Knox.
The Knox flag is a one time flag, not a counter so once it's tripped, it's tripped (e-fuse) and it doesn't really matter what you do afterwards. You can load a hundred different rooms and it will still be 0x1 Knox warranty void.
Risestar2 I've already said the issue only occurs after installing Xposed and goes away one I uninstall it. So the problem definitely lies with Xposed and not knox.
Can anyone recommend a backup option - applications and files, but without root and having no problems with Knox, Knox warranty etc.
There isn't.
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ikizov73 said:
Can anyone recommend a backup option - applications and files, but without root and having no problems with Knox, Knox warranty etc.
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take a look here, no need to root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51694433&postcount=2
Thanks guys
Please Can I Uninstall Whatsapp on without having to root my Galaxy Note 4 , I need to install whatsapp+ I would be utmost Grateful
No
You can maybe disable it.
Go to Settings > Application Manager, then scroll all the way right to the ALL tab. Find WhatsApp and press on it. There may be a Disable button.
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Xansha said:
Please Can I Uninstall Whatsapp on without having to root my Galaxy Note 4 , I need to install whatsapp+ I would be utmost Grateful
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On my Note 4, WhatsApp was NOT pre-installed!
Just disabling will not work, if you want install WA+
Here in Germany have Provider Branded devices no whatsapp pre-installed.
Just the free ones.
If you want protect your warranty, you can flash a provider firmware via Odin.
Knox stay at 0x0, if you use original samsung firmwares.
No root needed.
In case of warranty, you can flash original firmware back.
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