Root without custom recovery or ROM.. Knox? - Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I want to root and keep stock ROM and stock recovery and all.
Basically only want to delete bloat with titanium and use greenify.
Will this trigger Knox? Is it even possible?

no, any rooting currently triggers the knox counter

clninja said:
I want to root and keep stock ROM and stock recovery and all.
Basically only want to delete bloat with titanium and use greenify.
Will this trigger Knox? Is it even possible?
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if u r using greenify donate, the xposed installer has to be version 2.3 beta 1. version 2.2 encountered "cannot write /data/xposed/modules.list" error.
i spent quite some time trouble shooting as the xposed forum thread did not mention the beta version on the opening post.

It may be possible to remove bloatware without root:
http://pocketnow.com/2013/01/04/how-to-remove-bloatware
Please note, I have NOT tried it, so cannot vouch for its veracity or safety. If anyone can, I'd be grateful.

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[Q] Galaxy s4 official kitkat 4.4.2 knox-friendly root method

Hi,
I would like to know if there is any known way at the moment to get a rooted kitkat 4.4.2 firmware without tripping knox. I'm momentarily running MKE 4.3, German csc I think. I'm aware of saferoot for this firmware, but I would like to know if there's something like it for official kitkat, or if it is possible to root my 4.3 and then upgrade via mobile odin and inject root via everroot everroot without tripping knox. If not I'll just update via OTA and root via another method but if it's possible I'd like to keep knox for now
wootyv said:
Hi,
I would like to know if there is any known way at the moment to get a rooted kitkat 4.4.2 firmware without tripping knox. I'm momentarily running MKE 4.3, German csc I think. I'm aware of saferoot for this firmware, but I would like to know if there's something like it for official kitkat, or if it is possible to root my 4.3 and then upgrade via mobile odin and inject root via everroot everroot without tripping knox. If not I'll just update via OTA and root via another method but if it's possible I'd like to keep knox for now
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No, uptil now there is no such method developed. Check on Kingo root website whether they ve updated to root 4.4.2 firmware.
Mandark52 said:
No, uptil now there is no such method developed. Check on Kingo root website whether they ve updated to root 4.4.2 firmware.
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Oké, Thanks anyway
I don't really trust kingoroot as I thought that it had spyware installed, just as vroot, but then I heard about saferoot and I I was hoping I could keep root via mobile odin, but too bad. I'll just just root via cf-root then
wootyv said:
Oké, Thanks anyway
I don't really trust kingoroot as I thought that it had spyware installed, just as vroot, but then I heard about saferoot and I I was hoping I could keep root via mobile odin, but too bad. I'll just just root via cf-root then
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Not any spywarez but many of them reported that they lost their IMEI number.If you are on kitkat ,wait for stability updates n then root. Hit thnx if helpd.
Towelroot. by geohot
Does not trip the knox counter..but don't expect to use custom recoveries. It is a simple root only.
!SINGH! said:
Towelroot. by geohot
Does not trip the knox counter..but don't expect to use custom recoveries. It is a simple root only.
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Thanks! I read about it in the featured articles but I wasn't sure it would work or not. I was just planning to use the root to clean the ROM up a bit to free up some system memory and RAM and make some apps system apps, better backups and fiddle a bit with my storage, and maybe using some modules, do you know if using Xposed trips knox?
wootyv said:
Thanks! I read about it in the featured articles but I wasn't sure it would work or not. I was just planning to use the root to clean the ROM up a bit to free up some system memory and RAM and make some apps system apps, better backups and fiddle a bit with my storage, and maybe using some modules, do you know if using Xposed trips knox?
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Xposed doesn't... but I would be weary of modules that perform bootloader or deep system changes
Titanium Backup.. and use backup app and then remove/disable etc
Just be careful... if the knox counter is v important to you.
!SINGH! said:
Xposed doesn't... but I would be weary of modules that perform bootloader or deep system changes
Titanium Backup.. and use backup app and then remove/disable etc
Just be careful... if the knox counter is v important to you.
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It's not that important to me, I just don't want to trip it if I don't have to, if I need to trip it for something I really want to do I don't have a problem with it , it's not like use knox thanks you very much
wootyv said:
It's not that important to me, I just don't want to trip it if I don't have to, if I need to trip it for something I really want to do I don't have a problem with it , it's not like use knox thanks you very much
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Actually KNOX is very important for warranty issues. If you dont have warranty then I wouldnt worry about it. If you DO have warranty then do not mess with KNOX-tripping root methods.

[Q] question about know, towel root and clockwork rom manager

Hi. I've asked similar question before but wasn't given a clear answer.
I've done quite a bit searching and I am not a noob to rooting and custom roms.
I want to keep my knox and I am aware that there is a method using towelroot to root without knox tripping, however installing CWM or any other custom recoveries will trip knox.
My question is, once I've rooted using towelroot method and then install clockwork's rom manager off play store then install recovery through it, will they still trip knox?
Also what if I just use rom manager to install custom roms without instslling the recovery? Is that possible? I so badly want custom roms but I cannot risk knox. Please advice....
langsalang said:
Hi. I've asked similar question before but wasn't given a clear answer.
I've done quite a bit searching and I am not a noob to rooting and custom roms.
I want to keep my knox and I am aware that there is a method using towelroot to root without knox tripping, however installing CWM or any other custom recoveries will trip knox.
My question is, once I've rooted using towelroot method and then install clockwork's rom manager off play store then install recovery through it, will they still trip knox?
Also what if I just use rom manager to install custom roms without instslling the recovery? Is that possible? I so badly want custom roms but I cannot risk knox. Please advice....
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Q: My question is, once I've rooted using towelroot method and then install clockwork's rom manager off play store then install recovery through it, will they still trip knox?
A: You will trip KNOX this way as well.
Q: What if I just use rom manager to install custom roms without installing the recovery? Is that possible?
A: Use Mobile Odin Pro instead. ROM Manager uses an existing recovery to install ROMs, without a recovery it is not possible. Check this link out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2583199
Thank for your detailed reply!
I got the mobile odin pro now.
I want miui rom but wonikas miui has custom kernel. It will trigger knox right?
Any other miui rom without custom rom? Or is there way to install miui rom with stock kernel?
Or does miui require custom kernel to work?
All Miui Roms require a custom kernel so you will definitely trip knox.
Go for it
If you decide to go for it do youself a favor: Flash TWRP recovery.
Take a look at [TOOL/UTILITY][TWRP][ 2.7][RECOVERY] TWRP 2.7.2.x TeamWin Recovery Project 7/5
You will not regret it.

[SM-N910F][Lollipop] Everything stock w/ root?

Hello!
I wonder how the root situation looks right now for the Note 4. Is the easiest to use CF-AutoRoot? Only want root, no recovery.
I remember hearing back at the beginning about Xposed not working and rooting made the phone starting to lag, are these two issues fixed today?
Thanks in advance!
I really don't find my device lagging when rooted. And there is Xposed Framework for samsung lollipop in development Here. And more on Xposed Here. If you have KK then you can install stable release of Xposed.
Watch out for tripping Knox when rooting (you will lose your warranty). And make an nandroid backup before installing Xposed just in case.
themate1987 said:
I really don't find my device lagging when rooted. And there is Xposed Framework for samsung lollipop in development Here. And more on Xposed Here. If you have KK then you can install stable release of Xposed.
Watch out for tripping Knox when rooting (you will lose your warranty). And make an nandroid backup before installing Xposed just in case.
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Okay, thanks!
"watch out for tripping Knox when rooting" do you mean there is a way to only root without tripping Knox or do you mean I should be aware that it does trip Knox?

Galaxy Note 4- Custom Rom and Root?

Custom Rom and Root..
So I just got my Note 4 and I'm thinking of installing a custom rom but since my banking app wont work on rooted devices I'm wondering can I install a custom TW rom and then Unroot?
Thanks
Scottboro said:
So I just got my Note 4 and I'm thinking of installing a custom rom but since my banking app wont work on rooted devices I'm wondering can I install a custom TW rom and then Unroot?
Thanks
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How about you flash any custom rom you want and then use root cloak which hides the root from apps you define meaning your banking app can't see that you are rooted.
This way you can be rooted and use banking app. You will need to have xposed installed for this to work. Use Google to read up on root cloak.
Zionator said:
How about you flash any custom rom you want and then use root cloak which hides the root from apps you define meaning your banking app can't see that you are rooted.
This way you can be rooted and use banking app. You will need to have xposed installed for this to work. Use Google to read up on root cloak.
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Sadly this doesn't work with the Barclay's banking app, I've done a lot of searching to find a solution and nothing
There is a good reason not to use banking apps with root... I wouldn't risk doing that... Also to root and unroot or change the kernel every time is cumbersome
Scottboro said:
Sadly this doesn't work with the Barclay's banking app, I've done a lot of searching to find a solution and nothing
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You can search and download stock ROM for your phone, then flash via Odin.

What did BusyBox do? URGENT PLEASE HELP

Hello, I have a S5 rooted running stock. I'm pretty sure I didn't trip knox when I rooted it. So anyway I rooted my phone a while ago using odin and it was all good. See I use ANZ mobile pay, which is pretty much like android pay. Then the other day I was messing around with overclocking and undervolting and stuff, so I installed busybox for the app. Then when I went to go pay and now the app doesn't work. It says something because the device has been modified. I believe there is an Xposed module for this but I don't have Xposed because of TouchWiz. I would prefer not to have to reset or loose data. As soon as there is a stable CyanogenMod (13) release for this I will probably go over to that so I can use the Xposed module but I'm not sure when that is. So I uninstalled BusyBox and wanted to know if I could undo what ever it did. Anyway if there is another solution it will be much appreciated. Thanks
devondale16 said:
Hello, I have a S5 rooted running stock. I'm pretty sure I didn't trip knox when I rooted it. So anyway I rooted my phone a while ago using odin and it was all good. See I use ANZ mobile pay, which is pretty much like android pay. Then the other day I was messing around with overclocking and undervolting and stuff, so I installed busybox for the app. Then when I went to go pay and now the app doesn't work. It says something because the device has been modified. I believe there is an Xposed module for this but I don't have Xposed because of TouchWiz. I would prefer not to have to reset or loose data. As soon as there is a stable CyanogenMod (13) release for this I will probably go over to that so I can use the Xposed module but I'm not sure when that is. So I uninstalled BusyBox and wanted to know if I could undo what ever it did. Anyway if there is another solution it will be much appreciated. Thanks
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If BusyBox is installed into system/xbin it will break ANZ Mobile Pay. There is an Xposed module called And Mobile Pay Root Detection. You can find the XDA thread explaining it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/xposed-anz-mobile-pay-root-detection
It is available in the Xposed download section and the Xposed repo.
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fast69mopar said:
If BusyBox is installed into system/xbin it will break ANZ Mobile Pay. There is an Xposed module called And Mobile Pay Root Detection. You can find the XDA thread explaining it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/xposed-anz-mobile-pay-root-detection
It is available in the Xposed download section and the Xposed repo.
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Thanks man but I can't get Xposed (without deodexing the rom, which is a pain). Is there anyway to uninstall what busybox put in so ANZ Mobile Pay can't detect it anymore?
devondale16 said:
Thanks man but I can't get Xposed (without deodexing the rom, which is a pain). Is there anyway to uninstall what busybox put in so ANZ Mobile Pay can't detect it anymore?
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You can install xposed on an odexed ROM.
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devondale16 said:
Thanks man but I can't get Xposed (without deodexing the rom, which is a pain). Is there anyway to uninstall what busybox put in so ANZ Mobile Pay can't detect it anymore?
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If you are still rooted, you will have to delete the BusyBox files that were installed to system/bin or system/xbin, I believe. If you want to know exactly where BusyBox was installed into the system, install the app again, let it load and look at the top of the app. It shows where BusyBox is installed. Then you can use your root file explorer and navigate to the folder and delete the files that were installed.
Also, Xposed works on odexed and deodexed Rom's. Did you receive an error in TWRP when trying to install the Xposed framework?
Why not Odin the stock firmware and give yourself a fresh start?
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All the above is sound advice......
But just to comment on what you said about tripping knox.......
You say you rooted via Odin.....
That means you flashed either CF ROOT and superSU or TWRP and superSU....
Both these methods WILL trip knox.
keithross39 said:
All the above is sound advice......
But just to comment on what you said about tripping knox.......
You say you rooted via Odin.....
That means you flashed either CF ROOT and superSU or TWRP and superSU....
Both these methods WILL trip knox.
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Kiethross39 is correct. CF AutoRoot will trip the Knox counter as well as using Odin to install TWRP. I have a Galaxy S5 rooted with CF AutoRoot and with TWRP installed and my Knox counter is 0x1. Boot to download mode and look in the top left corner of the screen and check your Knox counter. I guess it really doesn't matter at this point but just for future reference it's there. Let me know how everything works out.
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fast69mopar said:
If you are still rooted, you will have to delete the BusyBox files that were installed to system/bin or system/xbin, I believe. If you want to know exactly where BusyBox was installed into the system, install the app again, let it load and look at the top of the app. It shows where BusyBox is installed. Then you can use your root file explorer and navigate to the folder and delete the files that were installed.
Also, Xposed works on odexed and deodexed Rom's. Did you receive an error in TWRP when trying to install the Xposed framework?
Why not Odin the stock firmware and give yourself a fresh start?
and now a word from our sponsors....
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Yes I am still rooted. So removing these will allow ANZ mobile pay to work. Is there an easier way to remove all of them. (yes I know there is this one tool, but I don't want to flash it). I am happy with Stock Touchwiz for now but I am waiting until Official Stable CM13 because I really like CM. Thanks you have helped me heaps.
fast69mopar said:
Kiethross39 is correct. CF AutoRoot will trip the Knox counter as well as using Odin to install TWRP. I have a Galaxy S5 rooted with CF AutoRoot and with TWRP installed and my Knox counter is 0x1. Boot to download mode and look in the top left corner of the screen and check your Knox counter. I guess it really doesn't matter at this point but just for future reference it's there. Let me know how everything works out.
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Haha yeh guys I did Trip Knox. I was checking somewhere else but idk what I was looking at. Haha thanks.

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