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Hi,
I would like to know if there is any known way at the moment to get a rooted kitkat 4.4.2 firmware without tripping knox. I'm momentarily running MKE 4.3, German csc I think. I'm aware of saferoot for this firmware, but I would like to know if there's something like it for official kitkat, or if it is possible to root my 4.3 and then upgrade via mobile odin and inject root via everroot everroot without tripping knox. If not I'll just update via OTA and root via another method but if it's possible I'd like to keep knox for now
wootyv said:
Hi,
I would like to know if there is any known way at the moment to get a rooted kitkat 4.4.2 firmware without tripping knox. I'm momentarily running MKE 4.3, German csc I think. I'm aware of saferoot for this firmware, but I would like to know if there's something like it for official kitkat, or if it is possible to root my 4.3 and then upgrade via mobile odin and inject root via everroot everroot without tripping knox. If not I'll just update via OTA and root via another method but if it's possible I'd like to keep knox for now
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No, uptil now there is no such method developed. Check on Kingo root website whether they ve updated to root 4.4.2 firmware.
Mandark52 said:
No, uptil now there is no such method developed. Check on Kingo root website whether they ve updated to root 4.4.2 firmware.
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Oké, Thanks anyway
I don't really trust kingoroot as I thought that it had spyware installed, just as vroot, but then I heard about saferoot and I I was hoping I could keep root via mobile odin, but too bad. I'll just just root via cf-root then
wootyv said:
Oké, Thanks anyway
I don't really trust kingoroot as I thought that it had spyware installed, just as vroot, but then I heard about saferoot and I I was hoping I could keep root via mobile odin, but too bad. I'll just just root via cf-root then
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Not any spywarez but many of them reported that they lost their IMEI number.If you are on kitkat ,wait for stability updates n then root. Hit thnx if helpd.
Towelroot. by geohot
Does not trip the knox counter..but don't expect to use custom recoveries. It is a simple root only.
!SINGH! said:
Towelroot. by geohot
Does not trip the knox counter..but don't expect to use custom recoveries. It is a simple root only.
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Thanks! I read about it in the featured articles but I wasn't sure it would work or not. I was just planning to use the root to clean the ROM up a bit to free up some system memory and RAM and make some apps system apps, better backups and fiddle a bit with my storage, and maybe using some modules, do you know if using Xposed trips knox?
wootyv said:
Thanks! I read about it in the featured articles but I wasn't sure it would work or not. I was just planning to use the root to clean the ROM up a bit to free up some system memory and RAM and make some apps system apps, better backups and fiddle a bit with my storage, and maybe using some modules, do you know if using Xposed trips knox?
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Xposed doesn't... but I would be weary of modules that perform bootloader or deep system changes
Titanium Backup.. and use backup app and then remove/disable etc
Just be careful... if the knox counter is v important to you.
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Xposed doesn't... but I would be weary of modules that perform bootloader or deep system changes
Titanium Backup.. and use backup app and then remove/disable etc
Just be careful... if the knox counter is v important to you.
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It's not that important to me, I just don't want to trip it if I don't have to, if I need to trip it for something I really want to do I don't have a problem with it , it's not like use knox thanks you very much
wootyv said:
It's not that important to me, I just don't want to trip it if I don't have to, if I need to trip it for something I really want to do I don't have a problem with it , it's not like use knox thanks you very much
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Actually KNOX is very important for warranty issues. If you dont have warranty then I wouldnt worry about it. If you DO have warranty then do not mess with KNOX-tripping root methods.
I love using Wanam Xposed along with the extra power the Xposed framework gives to Greenify but I found an issue with it on the S5. When you install the framework S Health no longer works. Anyone else find this or is it just my S5?
carbonize said:
I love using Wanam Xposed along with the extra power the Xposed framework gives to Greenify but I found an issue with it on the S5. When you install the framework S Health no longer works. Anyone else find this or is it just my S5?
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im also having the same problem , try posting on there thread and see if you can get anyhelp
this is my log file for the error when s health crashes
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/framework-xposed-rom-modding-modifying-t1574401
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/framework-xposed-rom-modding-modifying-t1574401
I have posted in the Xposed forum so will see if I get anywhere.
Hmm I did have a reply but tapatalk wasn't showing there being one. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2725405
The problem has something to do with disabling knox after rooting. If you do not disable knox, s-health seems to be ok, but after disabling it, it has issues. Some people have restored, rerooted, keeping knox and resolved the issue.
risestar2 said:
The problem has something to do with disabling knox after rooting. If you do not disable knox, s-health seems to be ok, but after disabling it, it has issues. Some people have restored, rerooted, keeping knox and resolved the issue.
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happen to have a link to thread where users have done the above looking for a bit more info on this.
far I knew knew there was no way to root and recovery without tripping knox
Tripping the Knox flag us not the issue, the issue us when you disable know in #su afterwards. You can root and keep Knox running and it eliminates these issues
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happen to have a link to thread where users have done the above looking for a bit more info on this.
far I knew knew there was no way to root and recovery without tripping knox
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risestar2 said:
Tripping the Knox flag us not the issue, the issue us when you disable know in #su afterwards. You can root and keep Knox running and it eliminates these issues
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So how do you root and keep knox in intact with recovery?
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Yes, when it asks you if you want to disable Knox, you choose no
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So how do you root and keep knox in intact with recovery?
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Yes, when it asks you if you want to disable Knox, you choose no
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Ok thanks do
You have the thread handy should how to revert back when Knox is disabled?
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I used Chainfire's root and don't remember disabling Knox.
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Tripping the Knox flag is not the issue, the issue us when you disable knox in #su afterwards. You can root and keep Knox running and it eliminates these issues
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carbonize said:
I used Chainfire's root and don't remember disabling Knox.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2696537
Using this root increases your flash counter and trips the KNOX warranty flag!
maybe i'm reading what other post said key word "disable"
I never disabled knox but did trip the flag
Pretty much any rooting method to date or any unsecured bootloader will trip the Knox flag. If you don't want to trip the flag, you're going to have to stay bone stock. There's a difference in tripping the flag and disabling the Knox software. When you root and choose to disable Knox, that's when people have issues with some Sammy apps
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I'm trying to understand... are people disabling Knox themselves before/after they install Xposed, or is Xposed disabling Knox automatically?
Anyway to test if Knox is enabled or not?
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Pretty much any rooting method to date or any unsecured bootloader will trip the Knox flag. If you don't want to trip the flag, you're going to have to stay bone stock. There's a difference in tripping the flag and disabling the Knox software. When you root and choose to disable Knox, that's when people have issues with some Sammy apps
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risestar2 said:
The problem has something to do with disabling knox after rooting. If you do not disable knox, s-health seems to be ok, but after disabling it, it has issues. Some people have restored, rerooted, keeping knox and resolved the issue.
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can you explain this more please you stated that some people are restoring and rerooting and keeping knox enabled then s health works fine. but searching the forums I am unable to find any reference to this or how to do this.;
would also like to know a way to tell if knox is enabled or disabled , I know my knox flag is tripped but far as I know I never disabled it , if that's the case then if knox is the issue then my s health should be working fine.
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maybe a better question is this
risestar2 are you rooted with recovery and have xposed installed with s health working fine ? on the galaxy s5
Surely the big question is what is Xposed doing that stops it working as it works fine until I install Xposed.
carbonize said:
Surely the big question is what is Xposed doing that stops it working as it works fine until I install Xposed.
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would like to know as well
mine works fine even after installing xposed ,its when you install the framework in xposed that makes s health crash as if I uninstall the framework from within xposed and reboot , s health is fine again , I took my logcat files and have posted them but no luck form anyone yet
I'll try to find the thread, but essentially it's this.
You root your phone using one of the 2 preferred methods, both of which trigger your one time Knox flag.
Installing root installs the #su app. Upon starting this for the first time, you should be prompted that Knox is running, do you want to disable? Yes/No.
People that choose yes are having difficulty using some Sammy apps, including so health and private mode. People that don't disable Knox are not having these issues.
You may be able to re-enable Knox in #su, or your best bet is factory restore and then reroot and choose not to disable Knox (root and everything still works fine)
You can troubleshoot it by Uninstalling all xposed framework and modules and testing all Sammy apps. If they work fine then the issue is a compatibility issue with xposed or xposed and another app or modification. If they don't work with xposed Uninstaller then the issue is likely Knox related and you likely need to re-enable Knox.
The Knox flag is a one time flag, not a counter so once it's tripped, it's tripped (e-fuse) and it doesn't really matter what you do afterwards. You can load a hundred different rooms and it will still be 0x1 Knox warranty void.
Risestar2 I've already said the issue only occurs after installing Xposed and goes away one I uninstall it. So the problem definitely lies with Xposed and not knox.
Hi guys so I'm really sorry if this has been asked millions of times but what I want to know is, does tripping the KNOX flag open a huge risk to normal system functionality not working? Now I know KNOX tripping, prevents you from using KNOX related stuff but does it stop you from an average joe using their phone normally, installing apps, sideloading apps, using the camera. That sort of thing.
The other thing is, I want to have a go at flashing custom ROMs to my device. My warranty runs out next month so this would be perfect, providing the above question is true (that it doesn't disable full functionality) I will go and follow normal tutorials.
Now I've been reading about SafeStrap and how it creates the ability to flash ROMs without touching vital system parts that would trip KNOX. Is this true? Could I really root without tripping, install SafeStrap and finally install custom ROMs without tripping KNOX or am I in a dream world haha?
WhaleTrain said:
Hi guys so I'm really sorry if this has been asked millions of times but what I want to know is, does tripping the KNOX flag open a huge risk to normal system functionality not working? Now I know KNOX tripping, prevents you from using KNOX related stuff but does it stop you from an average joe using their phone normally, installing apps, sideloading apps, using the camera. That sort of thing.
The other thing is, I want to have a go at flashing custom ROMs to my device. My warranty runs out next month so this would be perfect, providing the above question is true (that it doesn't disable full functionality) I will go and follow normal tutorials.
Now I've been reading about SafeStrap and how it creates the ability to flash ROMs without touching vital system parts that would trip KNOX. Is this true? Could I really root without tripping, install SafeStrap and finally install custom ROMs without tripping KNOX or am I in a dream world haha?
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Tripping knox does not affect phone performance, as for safestrap, as far as I know that has to be used on locked bootloader phones (like US carrier ones).
Once knox is tripped knox is tripped, I have heard the proggy that does not trip knox when rooting is Towelroot, but some people are having big problems with battery life.
WhaleTrain said:
Hi guys so I'm really sorry if this has been asked millions of times but what I want to know is, does tripping the KNOX flag open a huge risk to normal system functionality not working? Now I know KNOX tripping, prevents you from using KNOX related stuff but does it stop you from an average joe using their phone normally, installing apps, sideloading apps, using the camera. That sort of thing.
The other thing is, I want to have a go at flashing custom ROMs to my device. My warranty runs out next month so this would be perfect, providing the above question is true (that it doesn't disable full functionality) I will go and follow normal tutorials.
Now I've been reading about SafeStrap and how it creates the ability to flash ROMs without touching vital system parts that would trip KNOX. Is this true? Could I really root without tripping, install SafeStrap and finally install custom ROMs without tripping KNOX or am I in a dream world haha?
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Yes, it seems to be possible that you can flash custom roms without tripping Knox.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/general/guide-how-to-install-custom-roms-t2852310
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Without tripping knox you can get root, and modify the actual rom filesystem, for example you can change all /system of the rom using mobile odin pro.
You cannot change kernel or recovery, or you get knox 0x1.
Flashing roms with mobile odin pro is possible only if rom is compatible with your current official kernel you have, or the results would be bad (wifi not working or so on..).
fear_factory84 said:
Without tripping knox you can get root, and modify the actual rom filesystem, for example you can change all /system of the rom using mobile odin pro.
You cannot change kernel or recovery, or you get knox 0x1.
Flashing roms with mobile odin pro is possible only if rom is compatible with your current official kernel you have, or the results would be bad (wifi not working or so on..).
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Can you flash roms after knox has been tripped
bottom661 said:
Can you flash roms after knox has been tripped
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Yes
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Been trying to look for an answer but all related thread seem to talk about KNOX tripped (counter 0x1)... But my case is different here.
I have rooted my S5 G900F with Towelroot without tripping KNOX. Right now the phone is running stock NG2 firmware with root and KNOX disabled (KNOX counter remain 0x0, device status Custom).
Due to work requirement, I need to encrypt my phone, but encryption won't works with KNOX disabled. My question is, is it possible to enable KNOX (while rooted), then go on with encryption and disable KNOX after the encryption. If so, how? What is the effect of having KNOX enabled while remain rooted?
Good question
This question has been asked in the CF-Root thread many times. CF recommends to keep it disabled. Otherwise, the phone will be unstable (autoreboot) and other strange things could happen. Read CF-Root thread for more details.
After some reading, it seems like you can restore KNOX by: unrooting with superSU, flashing a stock rom, and do a data factory reset.
Check this link for more info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/help/unroot-rooted-towelroot-sm-g900f-t2804788
Hope this helps.
TheSamWolf said:
After some reading, it seems like you can restore KNOX by: unrooting with superSU, flashing a stock rom, and do a data factory reset.
Hope this helps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/help/unroot-rooted-towelroot-sm-g900f-t2804788
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The system status and current binaries both have to be showed as official in downloadmode to use KNOX.
Dark_Avenger said:
This question has been asked in the CF-Root thread many times. CF recommends to keep it disabled. Otherwise, the phone will be unstable (autoreboot) and other strange things could happen. Read CF-Root thread for more details.
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I read that, but I didn't use CF-Root to obtain root (as it well trip KNOX), i used TowelRoot (without tripping KNOX). Don't know if it would behave the same as the CF-Root method.
Thanks for pointing out.
TheSamWolf said:
After some reading, it seems like you can restore KNOX by: unrooting with superSU, flashing a stock rom, and do a data factory reset.
Check this link for more info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/help/unroot-rooted-towelroot-sm-g900f-t2804788
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That means I have to unroot it, not exactly what i'm looking for...
AFAIK Knox (the software container) will never ever be enabled when you are rooted (even with Knox counter set to 0x0).
I believe it checks on root access.
As I understand it correctly, the company where you work for only requires that your phone is encrypted and not manageable ?
I work for one of the largest companies in the world and my phone (S3) is not allowed to be rooted.
The container software (Airwatch) checks on that.
When every check is confirmed, only then will it make a container and encrypts the data in that container.
And from administrators it can be managed, like remote wipe, anti-theft, etc
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AFAIK Knox (the software container) will never ever be enabled when you are rooted (even with Knox counter set to 0x0).
I believe it checks on root access.
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That was my understanding too!
To re-enable KNOX, reflash stock firmware as described. After that, you can try again (towel) rooting your device, and Do Not disable KNOX. Though, I read that root will not work quite correctly?
Please write back with your results if you try it!!!
You probably right that Knox won't work when phone is rooted...
Well, with My Knox available now, no full phone encryption is required (as encryption will only be within the Knox container). Maybe one fine day I'll reset my phone, root then unroot temporary in order to try My Knox...
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Hey Guys,
I have a doubt on using KNOX.
Actually I don't care about tripping my Knox Counter. (0x1) but I just require to know whether I can use KNOX just like before rooting without any problems?
If Warranty is the only concern to be worried about , due to rooting of the phone; I can live with it, but does rooting limits/restricts the users from using KNOX and any/all of its functionality totally?
xda rocks said:
Hey Guys,
I have a doubt on using KNOX.
Actually I don't care about tripping my Knox Counter. (0x1) but I just require to know whether I can use KNOX just like before rooting without any problems?
If Warranty is the only concern to be worried about , due to rooting of the phone; I can live with it, but does rooting limits/restricts the users from using KNOX and any/all of its functionality totally?
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In my experience(for what it's worth, lol), I have seen no performance issues with Knox functionality by rooting. Flashing through Odin trips the warranty counter and voids warranty. There are apps that disable Knox but the ones I've seen warn you before doing so. Hope that helps. Good luck
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xda rocks said:
Hey Guys,
I have a doubt on using KNOX.
Actually I don't care about tripping my Knox Counter. (0x1) but I just require to know whether I can use KNOX just like before rooting without any problems?
If Warranty is the only concern to be worried about , due to rooting of the phone; I can live with it, but does rooting limits/restricts the users from using KNOX and any/all of its functionality totally?
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You will NEVER be able to use the Knox Container EVER again after ur counter says 0x1... Samsung made it for business enterprises for security concerns, if these *Android Hackers and Modders* will just bypass the Knox security then Samsung wouldn't have business enterprises using the Knox Container because it can just easily be bypassed..
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trettet said:
You will NEVER be able to use the Knox Container EVER again after ur counter says 0x1... Samsung made it for business enterprises for security concerns, if these *Android Hackers and Modders* will just bypass the Knox security then Samsung wouldn't have business enterprises using the Knox Container because it can just easily be bypassed..
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Makes sense...!!! But I see almost everyone requesting to get a root access mentioning about Warranty void. I was wondering if that is the only reason can we use knox even after making our phone warranty void. Anyways I got the idea. :sly:
I need help
please some one .. i need help and it's so important . one of my friend encrypted his data though knox and regardless of what super su and root do with knox and it's disabling knox ... he rooted his phone ! (he is todler and didn't take notice )
anyway his knox now is disabled and he can't access to his data because in security knox is disabled .. how can we enable knox so he can decrypt knox with password and access to his data ... thanks in advance and keep in mind that please guys if you are not sure about how can solve problem without losing data , guide me . data encrypted with knox is so important to him .
target device is Galaxy note 3 n9005 .
You cant use knox on rooted device
When uroot your device, ur device status nd binaries change to custom. KNOX checks that. If the binaries are custom, you cant use KNOX ever.
Is there a way to completely unroot and go back to KNOX 0x0, all official? Even if we pay Samsung service centre?
true sir, my Samsung Galaxy S7 edge unable to even install myknox after flash back to stock rom
Hello,
I was a little bit to fast to root my s7 edge. My company now requires me to use knox to be able to use their exchange services for contacts,mail and calendar.
So my questions is: will I be able to use knox again if I factory restore my phone again? I have only rooted the phone and NOT flashed twrp yet.
Thank you in advance!
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karstensson said:
Hello,
I was a little bit to fast to root my s7 edge. My company now requires me to use knox to be able to use their exchange services for contacts,mail and calendar.
So my questions is: will I be able to use knox again if I factory restore my phone again? I have only rooted the phone and NOT flashed twrp yet.
Thank you in advance!
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No it won't.
Once Knox is tripped there is nothing you can do that will allow you to use knox again.
Factory reset and restore will not change the knox status.
Good luck,
Have a great day!
damn! Then i guess i'll have to buy another phone for work Then i guess i can install xposed and twrp as well
karstensson said:
damn! Then i guess i'll have to buy another phone for work Then i guess i can install xposed and twrp as well
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Whats the point, you will trip knox again installing twrp, so you wont be able to use it for work
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wegiwegi said:
Whats the point, you will trip knox again installing twrp, so you wont be able to use it for work
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Sorry i was a bit unclear in my last post. Of course i meant installing twrp on the current device where knox is already tripped.