I have to say that I'm a bit disappointed.
Having used an 810 phone before I somehow thought that the slowdowns of the M9 was a HTC thing but it's comical how identical the Z5c and M9 behaves when using the phone playing games etc. HTC fixed most of the problems with updates and my hope was that Sony should have learned by what other oems had done before releasing a not so very optimized base.
My first Z5z was a white one and the screen froze so I changed to a black one. A couple of days ago I noticed that pictures taken is really blurry in the left corner. The thing also slows down pretty bad after a while and the camera easy takes 5-6 seconds to start up if not already in memory, not an easy thing to do with only 2gb of ram and an unoptimized base.
The same goes for the phone app and first I thought that I had got another one with touch errors.
And... It's not a faulty phone, it's a good one out of the last batch. I noticed I've started to enjoy my G4 again, it have never felt so snappy and I can live the subpar battery.
Well let's put it in the box and wait for the next update.
I have to say that I'm a little worried about the Nexus 6P. Being a Nexus there will be great kernels and we can always redo the 810 to a 808 with a better gpu and far less constraints.
End of rant...
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I'm not satisfied particularly with the camera.
Yeah, the free RAM is so poor. And the performance (which is REALLY ACEPTABLE) is lower than the Nexus 5 (with 5.1.1), probably because of the free RAM. (This could be fixed with a future update).
I consider that the "average camera" (according to some users) of the Nexus 5 is much better. Well, at least with photos took with a 15cm-25cm distance (HDR+ in the 5). There is a big difference in quality. (And I tried with Superior Auto / Manual / 20MP / 8MP / etc).
Best of the Z5 Compact: The battery life (It doubles my previous phone SoT over the whole day) and The fingerprint sensor. Rotation works really fast too. I didn't try the GPS but I tried to lock indoor pretty good
(In the contrary: My N5 GPS really sucks soo bad. I compared it with a Moto G 1st gen GPS last year and lost in every way).
The Z5C temps are so good compared to my Nexus 5 (never pass 50C while in the N5 I'm usually throttling the phone at 60C+, but don't forget it has a 2.3Ghz CPU it's easy to throttle that with intensive usage, touchboost, etc).
I'm expecting an OTA in the Z5 Compact. Our kernel is from the 2nd of September. I think I have 30 days to return it to Amazon. But so far I'll be coming back to the N5 and probably buying a 5X (and a hand enhancement "Deus Ex" style in order to be able to use it with one hand LoL).
I think the problem with throttling is that Sony tries to keep the phone to cool really. Playing a game will throttle within 10 minutes. The same game on G4 never goes into throttling, it's just the 810s that behave that way so far. The S6 also gets there, but it takes way longer and it will not be as notable.
Yes, an update or two is in order. I hope they will put camera, gallery and core apps in memory or at least give them way higher prio .
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Yes I think there is a mayor preference over the lower 4 cores, to save temperature (more than battery life).
But I think the bad performance is generated by bad RAM management, there is no way this phone has only 600-700MB~ of Free RAM, sometimes just 400MB.
If you installed Android 5.0 with memory leaks (not 5.1.1) in the Nexus 5 (and your ram is reduced below 600-700MB after a few days or a few memory leaks reproductions) You would see a reduced performance in general.
The Z5 Compact should have more than 1GB or 1.1GB of Free RAM (in general) like the Nexus 5.
Not just 700 or less MB.
And here is the 2nd reason I think I'll come back to a Nexus: "I think there are a lot of Sony processes/libs/etc hidden under the carpet and consuming a LOT of RAM".
Regarding the kernel performance, I wouldn't worry about that. While it is something that can be fixed with a custom kernel, I think that Sony will tweak and optimize our kernel in future updates.
Well just like i said go watch some IFA video's of the z5c and you will see it run good and without problems so this will all be fixable with updates.
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Well just like i said go watch some IFA video's of the z5c and you will see it run good and without problems so this will all be fixable with updates.
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camera. I've done to many resets on this phone and all is good until I download exactly the same apps I use on any phone. I'll think it's down to the memory lane and hopefully upcoming updates.
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IFA was a while ago, you would think the most of those tweaks where already in the base, except the new
camera. I've done to many resets on this phone and all is good until I download exactly the same apps I use on any phone. I'll think it's down to the memory lane and hopefully upcoming updates.
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Yea and those IFA models where running on a lower fw build also so its weird that sony releases this kinda laggy update. But maybe they didn't want to put in much time into this update and rather put all their focus on the marshmellow update that should be out next month.
Possible, I also imagine there was only a very few apps installed at IFA. Still a shame, a phone app taking well over 5 secs to open or the world's fastest focus in the slowest camera in the business. It's a bit of a catch 22 and I really don't think Sony can afford a low reputation at this point. For the premium money asked the ware should really be premium. Right now it's a rip off, my half price Chinese knockoffs is as good, but not water ? proof
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Possible, I also imagine there was only a very few apps installed at IFA. Still a shame, a phone app taking well over 5 secs to open or the world's fastest focus in the slowest camera in the business. It's a bit of a catch 22 and I really don't think Sony can afford a low reputation at this point. For the premium money asked the ware should really be premium. Right now it's a rip off, my half price Chinese knockoffs is as good, but not water ? proof
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dondavis007 said:
Possible, I also imagine there was only a very few apps installed at IFA. Still a shame, a phone app taking well over 5 secs to open or the world's fastest focus in the slowest camera in the business. It's a bit of a catch 22 and I really don't think Sony can afford a low reputation at this point. For the premium money asked the ware should really be premium. Right now it's a rip off, my half price Chinese knockoffs is as good, but not water proof
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Well i also have a few apps installed and it still is laggy but its to early to bash the phone when it doesn't had its first full update.. But if it never gets fixed this will be my last sony phone anyways.
Ok, many people say it fix when Sony update firmware but my question is why Sony release their flagships when these defects. They don't try their devices? They have hurry? Is not better have a good/finished mobile?
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RiTCHiE007 said:
Well i also have a few apps installed and it still is laggy but its to early to bash the phone when it doesn't had its first full update.. But if it never gets fixed this will be my last sony phone anyways.
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I don't talk it down, I just observe. I own a few flagships and none is perfect, but most are in better form when released. I didn't buy it to be my main phone but to have when travel, but I'm still a bit disappointed...
Written from my G4 because 1. I noticed that Z5c is very slow on my WiFi network and just don't have the energy to find out why. 2. I can't play the Hobbit on it because it starts to lag pretty bad after 10 minutes. And that's what I'm doing in my sofa right now
(and I'm pretty worried about Nexus 6P and SD 810, even knowing I'm not going to stay stock even 1 boot)
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I don't talk it down, I just observe. I own a few flagships and none is perfect, but most are in better form when released. I didn't buy it to be my main phone but to have when travel, but I'm still a bit disappointed...
Written from my G4 because 1. I noticed that Z5c is very slow on my WiFi network and just don't have the energy to find out why. 2. I can't play the Hobbit on it because it starts to lag pretty bad after 10 minutes. And that's what I'm doing in my sofa right now
(and I'm pretty worried about Nexus 6P and SD 810, even knowing I'm not going to stay stock even 1 boot)
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Why you worried bout the nexus 6p? 810 isn't the problem but some doesn't seem to get it in their thick plated skull. Even the new windows phone have the 810 and they run smooth also the nexus runs smooth so all this talk bout you getting worried is so full of crap.
RiTCHiE007 said:
Why you worried bout the nexus 6p? 810 isn't the problem but some doesn't seem to get it in their thick plated skull. Even the new windows phone have the 810 and they run smooth also the nexus runs smooth so all this talk bout you getting worried is so full of crap.
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Man. I own two phones with 810 with the same problem. The windows phone has some sort of watercooling ?
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I really don't understand this.
If this is true, Z3 will actually be Z2
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Sony....sony....What's happening...
We won't buy new (same) device just for new firmware..
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It seems like people tend to forget things that aren't specs! I think the current processors are fast enough, and the updates are minor (SD800 vs SD801), so we should wait for 64-bit to see a jump perfomance wise.
The recent picture leaks reveal new speaker design and more rounded edges on the phone. The screen could be better calibrated. Perhaps better resistance to heat aka longer 4k recording. I think there's quite a bit to work on. Wireless charging?
And we should take in concideration that the Z2 came out some 6 months ago!
May be Z2 will has unique features or better camera sensor or better build quality.
And maybe a higher mp front facing camera.
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Of you ask me - that's not enough to call it Z3 but OK...we'll see.
BTW, I think we don't have to wait 808 or 810, S805 will be and would be something you will expect now.
Sony built Z1 with new 800, then they built Z2 with overclocked 800 - S801... What now, they will overclock overclocked 800!?!
They, obviously can't follow 6 months cycle...
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It seems like people tend to forget things that aren't specs! I think the current processors are fast enough, and the updates are minor (SD800 vs SD801), so we should wait for 64-bit to see a jump perfomance wise.
The recent picture leaks reveal new speaker design and more rounded edges on the phone. The screen could be better calibrated. Perhaps better resistance to heat aka longer 4k recording. I think there's quite a bit to work on. Wireless charging?
And we should take in concideration that the Z2 came out some 6 months ago!
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i agree there is a lot that could be better on the Z2/Z1 -- it seems that Sony is edging towards a perfect iteration of Xperia Omnibalance. the issue is that the Z3 is really what the Z1 should have been!
also hoping that there will be better speakers (but judging from the size of those speaker holes, not holding my breath), better heat dissipation for 4K, and less chance of self-cracking glass. better camera algorithms for HDR, 20MP automatic, etc.
wireless charging? that would be cool, but i'd rather see Sony get a magnetic charging port that doesn't fall out.
SD805 would have been expected, so that's disappointing. but maybe 32GB/64GB variants?
bjornops said:
It seems like people tend to forget things that aren't specs! I think the current processors are fast enough, and the updates are minor (SD800 vs SD801), so we should wait for 64-bit to see a jump perfomance wise.
The recent picture leaks reveal new speaker design and more rounded edges on the phone. The screen could be better calibrated. Perhaps better resistance to heat aka longer 4k recording. I think there's quite a bit to work on. Wireless charging?
And we should take in concideration that the Z2 came out some 6 months ago!
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64-bit performance will be negligible FYI; it's unnecessary for mobile products. Just as a QHD screen is on a ~5 inch device....
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64-bit performance will be negligible FYI; it's unnecessary for mobile products. Just as a QHD screen is on a ~5 inch device....
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The first iteration might not improve the performance much, but it will continue to get better.
Calling it unnecessary for mobile products is making the same mistake as an IBM Senior Engineer did back in '68.
He said "Yeah, microchips, but what... is it good for?", and as you can see microchips are good for plenty of stuff.
Or another example of the same mistake is Ken Olson, President of Digital Equipment Corp, 1977 whom said "There is no reason anyone in the right state of mind will want a computer in their home."
There is always a reason to make better, cheaper, faster and more mobile computers.
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Oh, I just noticed you have an iPhone 4, that's why you are ignorant.
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The first iteration might not improve the performance much, but it will continue to get better.
Calling it unnecessary for mobile products is making the same mistake as an IBM Senior Engineer did back in '68.
He said "Yeah, microchips, but what... is it good for?", and as you can see microchips are good for plenty of stuff.
Or another example of the same mistake is Ken Olson, President of Digital Equipment Corp, 1977 whom said "There is no reason anyone in the right state of mind will want a computer in their home."
There is always a reason to make better, cheaper, faster and more mobile computers.
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Oh, I just noticed you have an iPhone 4, that's why you are ignorant.
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Your comparisons are so unrelated to the topic at hand that it just blows my mind. You literally just fried my brain with your nonsense.You should have used some car references in there as well to drive your excellent and well thought out point home. If you new a single thing about 64 bit architecture, which you clearly don't, you would know that 64 bit even for computers is questionable.
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Your comparisons are so unrelated to the topic at hand that it just blows my mind. You literally just fried my brain with your nonsense.You should have used some car references in there as well to drive your excellent and well thought out point home. If you new a single thing about 64 bit architecture, which you clearly don't, you would know that 64 bit even for computers is questionable.
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If YOU knew a single thing about anything you would know that 64 bit is undeniably better than 32 bit.. Please, just stop, you are making yourself look really really stupid.
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If YOU knew a single thing about anything you would know that 64 bit is undeniably better than 32 bit.. Please, just stop, you are making yourself look really really stupid.
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Lol
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Lol
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64 bit SoC's will allow more than 3gb RAM in a phone too, that's probably the more realistic benefit at the minute (IMHO).
This makes me happy. Now I can hold on to my Z2 longer without thinking it's an obsolete piece of ****.
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This makes me happy. Now I can hold on to my Z2 longer without thinking it's an obsolete piece of ****.
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Haha.. I wouldn't consider it a BAD phone based on that it isn't the latest model
I'm considering buying the Z2 now, and it seems it really doesn't matter regarding performance. Am I going to regret not waiting it out?!
OT: I'm assuming the "major" differences are going to be physical and UX. Sony has chosen a bumpy road trying to impress every half year. We really can't expect a revolution each time (and therefore not making the previous model obsolete)
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Lol
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Funny that you didn't have any better argument than "Lol".
But since you think 64bit is unnecessary why are you using 64bit on your computer?
I call it now, your argument is going to be something like "phones are not computers".
It's absolutely true that we don't need or use many things on our PC, phones or tablets...
But that doesn't mean we don't need it, or if you like, it doesn't mean it's not good for industry to grow...
I'm sure I'm not the only one who is not using 100% of any device, that's perfectly normal...
But...
First step will be 64bit architecture then it'll produce less heat, less heat means happy camera users, happy camera users will lead to something else...
That's industry and it's perfectly normal to go forward...
Someone said why QHD screens...well because that will sell devices...
Should they add CRT into Z3 plans?
Yes, we don't need many things but I like to have new and fancy things...
To be honest I don't need 4K recording on my phone but I like to have it
Back to topic...
Totally agree with statement that Sony can't build (not only Sony) and release revolution every six months but it's not cool to sell devices for 1000$, devices that are finished...
Z3 will be finished Z or Z1 - someone said that and I believe that's, sad but, true...
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64 bit SoC's will allow more than 3gb RAM in a phone too, that's probably the more realistic benefit at the minute (IMHO).
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3GB limit is x86 architecture specific and it is not directly linked to 32 bit architecture, google for PAE.
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First step will be 64bit architecture then it'll produce less heat, less heat means happy camera users, happy camera users will lead to something else...
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Pure nonsense. I understand meaning of your statements, but this one is just simply not true.
If Sony does refresh their flagship as per EvLeaks tweet, then they're are going to piss off a huge portion of the customer base who bought into the Z2, me included, they seem to be going down the same road that HTC went down, re-releasing minor spec bumped versions of their flagship devices because they didnt cover all angles with the initial devices.
HTC have just won back their customer base and regardless of sales, they have the best Android phone out period, with the M8 they got the formula 100% correct and they are seeing a positive return, Sony has been playing the developers friend and that has opened up doors and they have grown a loyal fan base but they should be careful of this business practice where they do what the did with the Z > Z1.
The life span on a flagship is already down to 11 months maybe and cutting it shorter is going to piss people off and they will take their business elsewhere, while Sony doesnt have the capital expenditure problems that HTC has since Sony is a multi dimentional corporation but this 6 months refresh cycle with see them run at a loss in the long run.
I'm happy with my Z2 and would love for it to be the top dog till the next Mobile World Congress.
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3GB limit is x86 architecture specific and it is not directly linked to 32 bit architecture, google for PAE.
Pure nonsense. I understand meaning of your statements, but this one is just simply not true.
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Haha...you shouldn't take everything so serious...take a deep breath and remember... We are on forum, not in North Korea...
Everyone has right to day what he/she thinks it's right...
If you really understood what I wanted to say, you won't be writing something like that...
I actually know what I'm saying and don't need to ask Google for opinion.
BTW - don't take everything from Google and wiki for granted...
I just simplified long statement....
If you want or need long version why it would lead to "cooler" cpu and device I'll write that for you...
I'm not talking about higher frequencies, I'm talking about new and better architecture and benefits.
And yeah...It's not problem in cpus, it's problem in OS (to add more RAMs)...
But one lead to other and it'll eventually lead to faster devices, powered with better chipsets, more RAM and less heat...
That all ends with happier users, or grumpy ones, like you...
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Seems all these phone companies are just greedy these days, rushing out different models!. The z2 ain't been out for 5 minutes! photo's on a leaked z3 is ridiculous. They shouldn't be allowed to bringft these flagship phones with minor updates so quickly!?
This is not a trolling topic. This came from a casual Z3 user.
I pre-ordered the Z3 on Sony store and got it. The phone was great, screen was pleasant to look at, no lags ever happened, but there were too many cons that took over the pros imo:
- The battery was not that great, I've installed GSAM App since day one, and now the average screen-on time is only 5 hours, maximum is 6h30m. I've tried resetting the phone via Pc Companion... no luck. I mainly use the phone for Facebook, Web browser, taking pictures, and music, no heavy games.
- I've dropped it several times due its f*cking slippery glass panels. So far there's no crack but the aluminum sides are slightly damaged.
- It's so uncomfortable to hold. Sony made premium phones for sure, but it's not practical... the Z3 is just a beautiful metal slab but not really a phone. In my opinion, the curved back is much much more comfortable to hold in hands.
- Wifi range is horrible. I've tried putting the Z3 next to the LG G3 and Moto G, the Z3 lost signal frequently, the other 2 were fine.
- Glass back panel = fingerprint magnet.
- Finally, the most disappointed feature - Camera. I don;t know what the heck Sony did to their Z3, but the camera is just average to me. Plus it does not focus well while recording videos, even with normal macro shots; Superior Auto sucks; too tiny flash; a lof of Noise; a lot of disappointments.
- Not to mention that it fails so badly on cosmetic look. Huge gaps; unsymmetrical panels; bulging nylon corners. They are not a big deal for me, but compared to other phones in terms of cosmetic build, Sony has to work harder.
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So if you want to change, what is the point of this thread?
My thoughts exactly
If you want even less screen time G3 is your phone. Congrats. I hope u will see thats a mistake I own both phones so..
Maybe you got a bad unit, mine has excellent signal I came from a G2 which I still love.
I remeber some HTC One Xs and Nexus 4s had an issue where the v shape pins on the casing weren't properly touching the pin on the motherboard causing very low WiFi signal. I had to use paper in between on my One X lol.
Anyway exchange it., if you are willing otherwise enjoy your new G3. But I and many here can attest that the Z3 gets excellent reception.
As @hzmenxd said, if you want much less screen on time, then go ahead for the G3. I used it for 3 months and nearly threw it out the window, battery life was horrible and lots of lag even after freezing and deleting apps and ROM improvements. Maximum screen on time I got was 4 hours and that with a 15 hour full charge, minimum brightness, conservative governor and other improvements. Just get a case for the Z3 and it'll fine.
OMG. If you are changing to G3 just for the casing form you have no idea what you are doing.I played with the G3 (the 2GB of ram version) and in terms of fluidity my old N4 beats him. Don't know what the hell LG did with the software but it sucks big time (lag, stutter, memory frees up by restarting the launcher and so on). Don't know about the 3GB version if it has the same problems. I almost got the G3 but I turned to the Z2 (Z3 to expensive in my country) and for 370 euro brand new with 2 year warranty it was a barging.
In conclusion it is your choice, but think twice.
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As @hzmenxd said, if you want much less screen on time, then go ahead for the G3. I used it for 3 months and nearly threw it out the window, battery life was horrible and lots of lag even after freezing and deleting apps and ROM improvements. Maximum screen on time I got was 4 hours and that with a 15 hour full charge, minimum brightness, conservative governor and other improvements. Just get a case for the Z3 and it'll fine.
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No no, this makes no sense. Obviously, going to a phone with a much shorter rated SOT is the answer. Getting a $10 case to solve at least 3 of the listed problems is crazy.
You could have caught 4 of these 7 gripes in the store. If you invest a pile of money in a personal gadget, do you research. You don't have to understand benchmarks and all the techno babble to go and test the keyboard and the camera and see how it feels in the hand. Shiny dark surfaces collect fingerprints. That is not Sony's fault. I got the white one for this reason.
In regards to the build quality, you could just have a bad unit. Perhaps you should have swapped it right away. If you drop it because of the slippery back, put a case or a sticker on it.
No offence, but I think this is kinda your own fault.
5-6HR SOT on a stock ROM is amazing. You can't even get that on the OPO.
I had the G3 and the average is around 4HR SOT, and that's with both debloated stock and super tweaked AOSP.
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No no, this makes no sense. Obviously, going to a phone with a much shorter rated SOT is the answer. Getting a $10 case to solve at least 3 of the listed problems is crazy.
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My bad, I should have made myself more clear:- my point about the case was simply for the "slippery" feel of the glass and aluminium body. In terms of camera, simple solution is use Google's Camera and/or use Perfectly Clear to fix any noise in the pictures. The WiFi signal is fine on mine and never had any issues but can be boosted with root or an app called WiFi Optimizer I think. As @abhinav.tella said, it might just be a bad unit.
atleast hold on to it incase u hate the g3 for whatever reason?
I jumped from a g2 to the z3 since it was the latest in the market... Took a long while for root but it finally got there.. I'm really hating the factory rom and still waiting on cm/aosp to be available as a bug free alternative..
I dunno how Sony likes having all those variants of the z3.. And the only one we have here is the dual sim version which really lacks behind in development since it's not the international version used everywhere...
Anyways from my experience with lg I'm most probably getting a g4 as soon as it's available (which should be sometime around Q3)
For the meantime I'll keep quiet and use the z3 all thanks to its 3100 mAh of power
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My bad, I should have made myself more clear:- my point about the case was simply for the "slippery" feel of the glass and aluminium body. In terms of camera, simple solution is use Google's Camera and/or use Perfectly Clear to fix any noise in the pictures. The WiFi signal is fine on mine and never had any issues but can be boosted with root or an app called WiFi Optimizer I think. As @abhinav.tella said, it might just be a bad unit.
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I agree with you, I was being very sarcastic in my previous post
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I agree with you, I was being very sarcastic in my previous post
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Oh right
Thanks guys for your honest opinions. I admit most of them were my faults. I think I'm gonna keep the Z3 to test it for some time before making a decision. But the SOT was really a rip off for such a hype on the Z3. I know the G3 has much less SOT for sure, that's a fact, but 5 hours on Z3 was just ridiculous. Everybody got at least 6 hours, but mine barely (or never) reached that level.
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Thanks guys for your honest opinions. I admit most of them were my faults. I think I'm gonna keep the Z3 to test it for some time before making a decision. But the SOT was really a rip off for such a hype on the Z3. I know the G3 has much less SOT for sure, that's a fact, but 5 hours on Z3 was just ridiculous. Everybody got at least 6 hours, but mine barely (or never) reached that level.
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So, in your screenshot the Z3 was at 22hrs and it still had plenty of juice left? Are you not getting through a day? What exactly are you looking for with 8hrs of SOT if at the end of the day you have battery left over and will plug the phone in?
There are a lot of factors that play into battery life, two big ones are power hungry apps, and signal strength.
I was always using Xperias, I even learned how to theme and dev on it...
But then I decided I had enough of Sony and solde my few months old Z2 to buy Note 4...
Believe me mate...grass isn't greener at neighbour yard...it's a same grass with a same bugs
You'll have exactly the same issues, questions and doubts with any brand.
I do have to say that while the phone works pretty well, it is uncomfortable to hold and the glass on the back pisses me off more and more every day. I still like the phone though.
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One thing that I do agree with OP is that if you are not used to the flat back glass construction, then you are just not used to it. I have been using a lot of Sony phones, so the flat back doesn't really piss me off. Instead of "palming" the back, I "grip" it with my index finger and my ring finger, which makes it very normal to hold.
Users who are more used to the curved back of the g3, motox and motog will feel that the flat back is not as ergonomic, and they are not wrong. The G3 feels more comfortable in the hand than the Z3, but it's not like the Z3 is a massive spike ball that you can't hold it for even 5 minutes.
Regarding the battery life, yeah, if you are not satisfied with the Z3 battery, then you are not going to be satisfied with the G3 battery. This is not an opinion, it's a FACT. G3 has a higher pixel count for its screen with a smaller battery. using LTE on it and it will die within 8-10 hours of heavy usage.
I can offer you some advice for your Z3 if you want to improve the battery life:
1. If you are not in a LTE plan, then use 3G only, that will help the battery by a ton.
2. Some small games (Free games) are quite suspicious, as they use location data all the time when possible. I was surprised when a prolific game such as Ridiculous Fishing was using the location service on my z3 and used up a lot of battery during idle periods. Uninstalling it helped to increase the battery by a few hours.
3. Google Now - this son of a ***** is a big battery killer. Turns it off if you don't use it.
4. Location services - this son of a ***** too.
The lag on the LG G3 is mind blowing! Besides.. All the apps look like a cheap and crappy version of Sony app, especially the G3 album app haha , and that back power off/on button? God. Lol.. But yes, is a sexy phone.. Good luck
Before anyone accuses me of bashing, bringing up things that have already previously been discussed, or just plain wants a go - I'm a huge HTC fan and adore their phones.
So I work for O2 in the UK as a Guru, I get to play with phones a lot - in fact it's all I do. From the moment I picked up the M9, I've decided it's the one for me over the S6 and Edge. There are, however, some issues. We all know that the camera isn't the best, the BoomSound may be a step back this year, but there's one thing that's really bugging me and concerning me. Overheating.
Overheating and the S810 has been covered a lot. However, it's a real issue and it needs to be tackled. My demo M9 is sat in front of me on the table right now, the screen is on medium brightness and the only app running is SoundCloud. So why is the phone noticeably hot to touch, when my iPhone and S6 are not when doing the same thing?
The software on this handset is final - we have M9's in stock ready to go for the 31'st. How is this acceptable?
The interesting thing is that my M8 also gets really hot when I use it, screen on and charging. Almost too hot to hold.
It may well be an issue with the HTC One phones and not the SoC. I don't know.
Maybe restart the phone again to see any applications not optimized/run properly? I'm also worried about this issue, hope there is fix otw
There's just an OTA out now which fixes the overheating.
Link: http://tweakers.net/reviews/3921/4/...nder-de-motorkap-de-64bit-snapdragon-810.html
Just because a device is shippped with release software, that doesn't mean it's final software.
This question is very easy to answer.
The HTC One M9 uses a S810 wich get hot faster than others recent SoCs used in iPhone 6 and S6.
Same thing happens in the LG G Flex 2 and both use heavy throttling to prevent the phone being too warm.
We can discuss why the S810 get warmer than Apple A7 and Exynos 7 but essentially, I think it's because A7 use less core with a lower frequency and Exynos 7 use a 14nm FinFET manufacturing process.
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Before anyone accuses me of bashing, bringing up things that have already previously been discussed, or just plain wants a go - I'm a huge HTC fan and adore their phones.
So I work for O2 in the UK as a Guru, I get to play with phones a lot - in fact it's all I do. From the moment I picked up the M9, I've decided it's the one for me over the S6 and Edge. There are, however, some issues. We all know that the camera isn't the best, the BoomSound may be a step back this year, but there's one thing that's really bugging me and concerning me. Overheating.
Overheating and the S810 has been covered a lot. However, it's a real issue and it needs to be tackled. My demo M9 is sat in front of me on the table right now, the screen is on medium brightness and the only app running is SoundCloud. So why is the phone noticeably hot to touch, when my iPhone and S6 are not when doing the same thing?
The software on this handset is final - we have M9's in stock ready to go for the 31'st. How is this acceptable?
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Please check if there is an update available. The issue should've been fixed.
The M9 has been shown to run hot, even after the thermal throttling "hotfix", pun intended (hotter than its competition). This isn't even disputed anymore.
Why? I don't know, but damn, am I curious.
One suggestion is that they have processor hotspots not being dealt with due to a high localized power density... so while the SoC power is OK, two or more hotspots in a localized area are exacerbating the situation (they quickly make the situation run out of control).
It only take one hotspot to trip the Tjunction profile. The rest of the SoC could be running fine. And this is either a problem with the Thermal Profiling and Cooling Spec (design or data sheet) or the Snapdragon 810 itself.
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HTC One M9 - 41.7C
LG G3 - 42.6C
That's not hotter than competition. That's within the comptetion.
I can't help but think it is an issue with some handsets. I've read reviews that state that it isn't an issue and reviews that show some concern.
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@th3
HTC One M9 - 41.7C
LG G3 - 42.6C
That's not hotter than competition. That's within the comptetion.
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You chose the hottest one?
If you read the major reviews, they still state it runs very skin warm.
M8, S6 and IP6 are the M9 competition. And upcoming G4. G3 isn't.
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@th3 - yes, because what you said was incorrect. Also, the difference between hottest and coolest is 3.6C. That's not a lot.
jaaystott said:
Before anyone accuses me of bashing, bringing up things that have already previously been discussed, or just plain wants a go - I'm a huge HTC fan and adore their phones.
So I work for O2 in the UK as a Guru, I get to play with phones a lot - in fact it's all I do. From the moment I picked up the M9, I've decided it's the one for me over the S6 and Edge. There are, however, some issues. We all know that the camera isn't the best, the BoomSound may be a step back this year, but there's one thing that's really bugging me and concerning me. Overheating.
Overheating and the S810 has been covered a lot. However, it's a real issue and it needs to be tackled. My demo M9 is sat in front of me on the table right now, the screen is on medium brightness and the only app running is SoundCloud. So why is the phone noticeably hot to touch, when my iPhone and S6 are not when doing the same thing?
The software on this handset is final - we have M9's in stock ready to go for the 31'st. How is this acceptable?
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The display and the battery performance are also worse.
I think Qualcomm has tried to cover the problem as much as they could but it's very obvious that they have screwed up with this processor, that they're even starting to talk about the "much better much cooler" S815 already.
It's not HTC's problem (nor was it LG's when they tried to pin it on LG earlier), it's the processor. All HTC (or LG) can do is try to cut the load on the processor and basically run it at lower speeds so it doesn't get too hot. Obviously that will impact the performance, but that's all they can do with the software updates. They will just try to find the right balance between temperature and performance.
I was avoiding the S6 because of the Exynos not being favored in the Rom-developing community. But the rumors-turned-facts about the 810 SoC have me worried. Not particularly blaming Qualcomm, but it seemed like this issue has had almost half a year to be ironed out.
I think the most troubling is that I've read the SoC's clock speed has been reduced to lower overheating, and the thing still overheats. So even if you've been waiting nearly 15 months for Snapdragon 810 like me because they said it'd be a beast, its disappointing to know that having the chip run ans intended might melt your phone.
Also even if early reviews are to be taken with a grain of salt, I've been hearing about underclocking, overheating, screen and boomsound quality being a step back from the M8's, and camera being not that great. I'm positive in time they might fix alot of the issues the early releases have been suffering from, but I am not one to wait many months longer for those updates. Just the updates to get a new android version can be grueling, so I can't imagine waiting for an update to make the device finally comfortable to use. With the S6 just a few weaks away, without all the nasty rumors the M9's been having, I just might have to bite the bullet.
The good news, I hear Exynos is naturally better at emulated gaming which is something I always consider when buying a new mobile device. The bad news, it isn't Qualcomm, and I already bought screen protectors and cases for the M9, despite it not being out yet in America
Edit: I take back what I said about getting an S6. I did a search on release date, and it's released in India for $950 for the 32GB model. Unless they can make the 64GB model less than $720 in America, I'm not interested. Which isn't likely. I would have already had a Xiomi Mi Note 4 Pro if the damn thing wasn't impossible to get, and would have got a G Flex 2 if it came with more RAM.
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@th3 - yes, because what you said was incorrect. Also, the difference between hottest and coolest is 3.6C. That's not a lot.
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Read the reviews. What you initially suggested is wrong and so is your selective comparison against the worst, non-competitor. It's still running hot, as every major review says. Even though it's not too much hotter, I agree and now acceptable to hold, it's still hotter, and still warm to hold.
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@th3 Thermal fix update only got released recently (past few days). Reviews were done before this update.
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@th3 Thermal fix update only got released recently (past few days). Reviews were done before this update.
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So the previous update wasn't dealing with the thermal?
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@th3 Thermal fix update only got released recently (past few days). Reviews were done before this update.
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that update underclocked cpu to 1.6 ghz i wouldnt say that a "fix"
I believe with people finally getting the phone, we will see if this problem is solved.
For a week I am using this gorgeous handheld, tons of blowing away emotions - no any significant overheat yet..
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the software updates are, simply, throttling the chip to approx 1.5 it is no better than an m8, which I have ? Plus, Sense 7 will be on m8 "soon", so no need to upgrade.
Sense 7, custom, roms are available now.
NOT having "a go" at HTC, I've had about 7 different handsets in last 5 years.
Typing.......
It's been a while since the ZF2 is released.
ZF2 is not a flagship killer. It was never advertising as such. The selling point of the ZF2 is the biggest bang for the buck.
So, why did you buy it? Did the phone impressed you in those aspects?
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It's been a while since the ZF2 is released.
ZF2 is not a flagship killer. It was never advertising as such. The selling point of the ZF2 is the biggest bang for the buck.
So, why did you buy it? Did the phone impressed you in those aspects?
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No I only bought it cause I know and trust Asus as a brand and as far as updates go it's been pretty good
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Bang for the buck, I came from S2 then S4. When the S6 came out at exorbitant contract price and no micro sd slot, I looked around and did the maths. The Zenfone 2 gave me twice the ram and 4 times the storage of my S4, it was faster, gave me the micro sd slot that the S6 lacked.
On top of that I could get it for less than half the price of a S6, that meant that going sim only and buying the ZF2 I will have saved enough on my old contract terms to cover the cost of the phone in 7 months(or 5 compared to the S6 contract).
I concur with BigDavy. This phone has such bang for the buck. The specs are better than phones at twice the price. Still loving it after 8 months.
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found the incredible (almost literally).
i bought this phone because of a reviewer saying, that this phone has very good cell reception.
The house I live in right now (temporarily) has very thick stone walls (around 100cm, 400yrs old house) and many phones I tried, struggled to get 2G reception (Xperia Z2, Medion x5004, HTC One m8 to name a few..)
When the ASUS.. well.. I still cant believe.. it has 3 constant bars for 2g (others had barely one) AND in most parts of the house also 4G LTE. that was incredible.
I know that the Intel chipset isn't very battery friendly, but now that I tried it.. it is snappier than a snapdragon 800 series. my next phone? anything with an Intel chipset.
I moved from Galaxy S2, it had Dual 1.2GHZ (max over clock to 1.6 but it will burn the chip soon) with 1GB Ram. So you guess what, to me it felt like moving from a dying horse to a Lamborgini.
It's really incredible that I got this holy awesomeness for $200 ;D Unfortunately, there isn't too much support for the 5" models around here, so I selected the second option. I would like to see more support for it
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found the incredible (almost literally).
i bought this phone because of a reviewer saying, that this phone has very good cell reception.
The house I live in right now (temporarily) has very thick stone walls (around 100cm, 400yrs old house) and many phones I tried, struggled to get 2G reception (Xperia Z2, Medion x5004, HTC One m8 to name a few..)
When the ASUS.. well.. I still cant believe.. it has 3 constant bars for 2g (others had barely one) AND in most parts of the house also 4G LTE. that was incredible.
I know that the Intel chipset isn't very battery friendly, but now that I tried it.. it is snappier than a snapdragon 800 series. my next phone? anything with an Intel chipset.
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The house I live in right now (temporarily) has very thick stone walls (around 100cm, 400yrs old house)
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Cool house you live in!
i bought this phone because of a reviewer saying, that this phone has very good cell reception.
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My place too has bad reception; but the dude abides with his ZF2.
I came from a Samsung S3 that was slower than a wet week
As the ZF2 isnt sold here in Australia I took a chance and it has turned out okay....I have had one problem of the camera not working but that was fixed under warranty (took 3 weeks to get it back) but the phone is powering along now...just waiting for the Marshmallow update to come to see whether I put a custom ROM on it or not...
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I'm very satisfied. Moved from an iphone 5 to the 550ML (Z008) just after it was launched. Wanted the 551 with 4GB, 2.3ghz and 1080p but had to settle for the cheaper one with 2GB, 1.8ghz and 720p (in Japan ASUS only sold the 551 at inflated prices, and it was also a bit overpriced from importers). The 1.8ghz cpu is plenty fast enough for my needs and the 720p sceen is better than I expected. 2GB RAM is a bit short when using the stock 5.0 firmware that has memory management issues, but is plenty when using CM. I love the size, the feel of the phone in my hand and its snappy ux performance. Bang for the buck, even at a slightly high importer price, has been incredible, and going unlocked has enabled me to switch to an MNVO and save an absolute fortune every month in carrier charges (the phone had basically paid for itself in about four months). I'm now pretty tempted by the astonishing value some Xiaomi or LeTV devices offer, but have to keep reminding myself that I love my ZF2 and it still has plenty of life in it. Will use it until the battery starts going.
I was using G3 when I bought Zenfone 2 (I used Zenfone 5 before G3), and I have to say that Zenfone 2 will be my last phone made by ASUS, too much bugs, slow update (even 2 years old G3 got Android 6 for a month!).
ASUS is just promoting their new phones, they don't care about their old customers.
At first, i hesitated to buy the ASUS ZenFone 2 as it uses an Intel chipset, but after going through every review on the internet, i made my mind. This is the phone i was looking for. Best in class performance and features from a famous brand known worldwide for just under $200. I wanted to buy the 4gb ram model, but was tight on budget and opted for 2gb model. Was quite happy with my buy. Now i'm even more happy with the excellent custom rom support it has got, gets the same attention as the higher end model.
Just "IN SEARCH OF INCREDIBLE" for official OS update (MM 6.0.1) from ASUS.
64 bit processor + 4gb ram + 5.5 screen (optimal size in my opinion) + decent storage capacity + storage expansion + reasonable price.
Upgraded from Galaxy Note II.
Met my expectations so far (have it since Nov. 2015), only two problems - when I receive calls, people start hearing me with a delay, and the phone has been bent a little
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After 7 months still "okay" took some looks for an replacement, but at the moment nothing better in sight regarding price / value.
Waiting for android 6.0 and announcement of ZenFone 3
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anything good (price & features) about ASUS ZF 2 except too much bloatware & rear speaker (crackling problem), so far ASUS ZF 2 is the best for the buck
Scored it 8. -2 for...
-Current gaming performance -- early videos show that this is a gaming beast for it's price. Unfortunately, I don't experience such smoothness right now, even after reflashing and playing on performance mode.
-Battery drain from the latest update -- Not sure if it's my fault or what, but I'm getting massive wakelocks from Calendar Storage. I think that's the culprit for my battery drain. **Already did factory reset and reflash, same thing**
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You forgot honeycomb 3.x
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With this phone it was never about finding incredible - it was about finding a good phone for less than $600, and this phone is great considering the price
Received the Maze Alpha a couple of days ago and have been running some benchmark tests. (3DMark to be added)
Figured I'd share them and if anyone has any questions/wants me to check something, please let me know
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Epic Citadel
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Malwarebytes Anti-Malware
PCMark Work 2.0 battery life (100% screen brightness)
Vellamo
Thanks ! interesting, i am awaiting mine looking forward to testing it myself.
Thanks for sharing, in www.kimovil.com shows antutu score as 80.000, yours is more realistic.
dimmebd said:
Thanks for sharing, in www.kimovil.com shows antutu score as 80.000, yours is more realistic.
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No problem
Kimovil is a great site in terms of being an index of phones and tablets. However, the information provided is often lackluster and sometimes even wrong, unfortunately. I find devicespecifications.com and china-prices.com to be more reliable.
Got mine yesterday... it's like a toy VS the Mi Mix... performances are very poor and the UI is a stock, at all with just a few customizations.
Got mine a few days ago... the Mi Mix is indeed a better phone in every way but it also cost 2-3 times more.
That said, like many of the Chinese phones out there today, it advertises a lot, delivers mediocre performance and features.
For the money, its a nice looking phone, totally stock android.
Terrible camera, very heavy (may be the heaviest smartphone I've ever used).
Slippery as heck - how on earth can any company release a phone especially one that is as hard to hold as the Alpha and not have any cases available for them??
After years of using so many flagships ie Galaxy Note 3, 5, S7 Edge, Nexus 6P, Pixel, Huawei Mate 9m P9, LG G4 V10 V20, Mi Mix, as well as tons of Japanese market models (I live in Japan), I've been trying out some of these more budget friendly models and as you all know they are not all created equally but all their manufacturers try to market unbelievable features for the price.
While they perform admirably in some cases I've learned to deal with many bugs, QA issues, and others surprises.
So far the Maze isn't bad especially for the money. It has its quirks and bugs but along with the other phone I'm using as dual daily drivers now (Umidigi Z1 Pro)... I have been getting by... lol.
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Got mine a few days ago... the Mi Mix is indeed a better phone in every way but it also cost 2-3 times more.
Terrible camera, very heavy (may be the heaviest smartphone I've ever used).
Slippery as heck - how on earth can any company release a phone especially one that is as hard to hold as the Alpha and not have any cases available for them??
So far the Maze isn't bad especially for the money. It has its quirks and bugs but along with the other phone I'm using as dual daily drivers now (Umidigi Z1 Pro)... I have been getting by... lol.
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How does it surprise you the phone is heavy? All information was readily available.
I agree that the camera performance isn't that great - need to mess around with manual settings to get proper shots or wait for further OTA updates (didn't they promise Android O on Facebook? We'll see what happens with that).
Should the cases have been ready before launch? Yes.
In Maze's defense, you can say it's still a new company - the Alpha is just the second product in the company's portfolio. Considering being a new player, Maze has done well so far and what I like is the company's isn't pushing 2-3 new phones every other month, which - hopefully - means the current portfolio of products will receive OTA updates and be maintained.
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How does it surprise you the phone is heavy? All information was readily available.
I agree that the camera performance isn't that great - need to mess around with manual settings to get proper shots or wait for further OTA updates (didn't they promise Android O on Facebook? We'll see what happens with that).
Should the cases have been ready before launch? Yes.
In Maze's defense, you can say it's still a new company - the Alpha is just the second product in the company's portfolio. Considering being a new player, Maze has done well so far and what I like is the company's isn't pushing 2-3 new phones every other month, which - hopefully - means the current portfolio of products will receive OTA updates and be maintained.
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Thanks for the reply!
I never said the weight was a surprise. I'm just stating my observation. It is the heaviest phone I have used and its slippery!
For a new company the quality is actually very good... some other names who have been around longer could learn a thing or two.
As I said, I'm getting by with it as my daily... though would feel much better if I had a case!
Have you had issues with the adaptive brightness? I'm hoping its something they can fine tune in the next update.... slow to respond to lighting changes if at all.... and in pitch darkness it still does not go all the way down.
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By the way thanks to Palm Trees for taking the time to put up all those tests. It really helps people get a non biased view of performance.
I hope you don't mind if I add a few more observations that people might find useful since there is so little info on the web besides the promotional press.
- Notifications work on the Alpha - as some of you can probably relate to, not all phones deliver notifications timely and reliably - but the Alpha does. (running my Z1 Pro at the same time sometimes see the same notifications come 10 min later or not at all)
- Bluetooth is reliable and stays connected. Currently paired to my LG Watch Urbane 2nd and its solid.
- GPS is acceptable which is more than many phones can provide (ie I had a Oneplus 3t before, and the GPS was garbage... slow to connect and could not stay connected and totally inaccurate - which is too bad cause I loved the 3t). The Alpha GPS locks on but there is a bit of drift here and there even in wide open circumstances. I test phones vigorously for GPS as the tall buildings and expressway ramps in Tokyo prove to be a great challenge and at the same time I test them in the suburbs where I live and there is much less interference. (honestly the Umi Z1 Pro has really good GPS!)
-Wifi range is below average. I'm 1m from my router and can't even get full bars. 10-15m away and throughput already starts failing.... not good.
gocchin said:
By the way thanks to Palm Trees for taking the time to put up all those tests. It really helps people get a non biased view of performance.
I hope you don't mind if I add a few more observations that people might find useful since there is so little info on the web besides the promotional press.
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No problem - happy to share and help
Sure, add as much you want to
I wont use it as a daily driver till I get a case. But of course I play around with the phone, more benchmarks will be added today as well.
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I wont use it as a daily driver till I get a case.
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Question is when will cases come out??
I have a hard time leaving a new toy on the bench so I matched the dimensions to another phone here in Japan and am using that case though the camera lenses are covered (which is fine cause the camera is not usable for me anyway).
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Question is when will cases come out??
I have a hard time leaving a new toy on the bench so I matched the dimensions to another phone here in Japan and am using that case though the camera lenses are covered (which is fine cause the camera is not usable for me anyway).
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Very soon it seems
https://www.facebook.com/MazeMobileGlobal/posts/1905055229745062
Added to OP: PCMark Work 2.0 battery life (full screen brightness) + Vellamo
root?
got my Alpha a few days ago. been looking for a way to root it. none of the one click rooters work.
anyone have any insight into whether this phone will get rooted soon? does root have to be developed for each phone separately or can they be ported over etc.?
If we could get a working TWRP RECOVERY, it would be easy to Root the maze alpha...
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Wrong Firmware on needrom!
Just an information for all who wants to flash the firmware or wants to port a TWRP recovery, the stockrom you'll find on needrom as maze alpha it's wrong!
This is doogee mix firmware!
Some stupid joke for the uploader!? Don't know.
I wrote an email to mazemobile about the wrong firmware an needrom.
They answered, that they don't upload this rom themselves! Maybe they will upload the stockromm on mazemobile.com but they don't know when....It's hard work..... Lol
So it will not possible to port a TWRP and impossible to root the maze alpha next time!
Sell it if you a root user!
I see that case Is now available in AliExpress at around 5 usd. The case material is not clear, but it looks tailored made for the phone protecting only the corners and the back of the phone.
http://s.aliexpress.com/uuYb6B7v
idanra said:
I see that case Is now available in AliExpress at around 5 usd. The case material is not clear, but it looks tailored made for the phone protecting only the corners and the back of the phone.
http://s.aliexpress.com/uuYb6B7v
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I asked Maze and that's the exact same link they sent to me, so I've ordered one
Guys,
Anyone knows how to fix the very low intensity of the vibration. I can't feel it in my pocket and I miss calls...
Anyone succeeded in rooting the device and trying to increase the motor speed?
Thanks...
RE: Maze Alpha bugs (vibration, etc)
Maze claims that volume, brightness and battery issues have been resolved in the latest official build (08/16). Perhaps vibration issues have been fixed too, as Maze claims other "optimizations". This build should also have the August security patches:
https://drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/0B8XLZxEJR8alOXVrdTZ1ZjdPdDA
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/rom-maze-alpha-v0520170816-t3659190
BTW: Maze Alpha cases are all over eBay now. Wish someone would make something other than the checkerboard pattern... just a matter of being patient...