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Did anyone else notice this registry entry?
[HKLM\Comm\TIACXWLN1\Params]
"EnableElpMode"=dword:00000000
If I'm not mistaken, the TyTn has a TI ACX100 WiFi chip, and this chip has TI's "Enhanced Low Power(tm) Technology". I've enabled it on my TyTn, and so far it seems to do no harm. I'll have to see if my battery power improves over the next week.
Correction...
Ah, the htc TyTn has TI's TNETW1250 chip. My mistake.
In any case, I think the EnableElpMode (if it really does work) would be a good thing. Also, I've seen a few webpages suggesting an additional key:
"dot11SupportedRateMaskG"=dword:00000008
Apparently this key tells the driver it's okay to do any 802.11g speed. I'm going to go find out!
let us know how it goes....
1st set of test results
First, I should detail the equipment I'm using.
My wifi router: D-Link 624.
My phone: htc TyTn, QTEK ROM 1.35.255.2 (Radio 1.18.00.10)
My laptop: IBM Thinkpad T22, w/ Hawking Techmologies HWC54D wifi card, Win2k.
My PC: P4 2.4GHz, asus P4P800 (has Gb lan), WinXP.
Results so far: (using http://www.bandwidthplace.com/speedtest, and sitting right next to my DI624)
PC: 5.3 Mb/s
Laptop (w/wifi): 3.4 Mb/s
TyTn: ~250 kb/s
Notes:
In one test I set the DI624 to use 802.11g only. Without any registry tweaks, the TyTn connected up just fine. Therefore, I suspect that the dot11SupportedRateMaskG key is no longer needed.
Curious to see if I could boost the TyTn's wifi speed, I began fiddling with all of the different registry settings under that heading (listed above). The wifi speed always hovered in the 250 kb/s range. It seems as though none of those settings significantly changed the wifi speed.
There was one key that did make a big difference in the time it take to actually connect up to the wifi router. Setting "dot11ShortPreambleInvoked" to 1 greatly sped up the time from wifi-off to wifi-connected-and-ready. (My DI624 was also configured for a short preamble.) Without the short preamble, it was taking between 10-30 seconds for the TyTn to connect up. With the short preamble it's between 5-10 seconds.
(Side note: The "Testmode" key didn't seem to do anything - at least I didn't see any difference when I set that to 1.)
One other key that did make a small difference:
[HKLM\Comm\Tcpip\Params]
"TCPWindowSize"=65536
I played around with this key, and it seems like setting it to 4096 "optimized" it just a bit. I got around 270 kb/s with that setting. Setting it bigger (say, 256k) slowed things down (~240 kb/s), while setting it smaller (say, 1k) really slowed things down (~170 kb/s!).
I'm going to continue fiddling around with the settings and report back again. It just seems to me that the TyTn should be able to achieve a wifi speed at least above 1 Mb/s. I would appreciate it if everyone else would check their wifi speed and post the results here as well.
p.s. If anyone knows of a PocketPC utility that can show detailed wifi connection information (such as speed, frequency, protocol, etc.) please let me know!
250 kpbs, that cant be correct? can it?
that would mean that HSDPA is faster than hermes wifi? I will test mine when my wife gives it back to me, im grounded for the holiday season. lol
something is terribly wrong here......
yes, there is something wrong here... I think you need to turn on flight mode before you run your wireless test again, and here is why... On my phone i have my data connection set to always on. If i turn on wifi then my data connection doesnt disconnect and will result in low speeds since its not using the wifi. If i turn mine on flight mode then run tests then everything is good. Here is my results using the same site as the OP
PC = 1.9
phone = 1.4
I am using a 3meg adsl pipe with a wireless SMC router with mac filtering, regular wep, and a static set up on the LAN side.
Progress!
I changed my wifi speed test to: http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed
Surprisingly, that speed test reported 1647 kb/s for my TyTn!
Fiddling with the TCPWindowSize value, it seems that 64k is optimum - well, at least with the dslreports test.
i usually use dsl reports, but i wanted to maintain some kind of constant for your testing
Wireless settings / b-g connections
Hi, I;ve just got a TyTn but it won't connect to my Netgear 802.11g router?? Is it b-only? Is there a hack (like for the Universal) which would enable me to connect to g networks? Would I still be able to connect to b-networks?
Thanks!
motoroller said:
I;ve just got a TyTn but it won't connect to my Netgear 802.11g router??
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My TyTn is fairly new (bought last month) and I can configure my DI624 to 802.11g only, and connect up just fine. What ROM version does your TyTn have? I'm on the QTEK 1.35.255.2 ROM. If you TyTn is right-out-of-the-box, it's probably got the QTEK 1.18.xxx.x. If that's so, you should consider unlocking it and upgrading it to one of the latest ROMs.
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Is it b-only?
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The htc TyTn (Hermes) has the TI TNETW1250 wifi chip. This chip is 802.11g capable.
motoroller said:
Is there a hack (like for the Universal) which would enable me to connect to g networks?
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You can try adding this registry key (although I'm not sure it will do anything on the TyTn):
[HKLM\Comm\TIACXWLN1\Params]
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Would I still be able to connect to b-networks?
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Yes. Wifi chips that support 802.11g always support 802.11b (AFAIK).
Good luck!
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i usually use dsl reports, but i wanted to maintain some kind of constant for your testing
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Yeah, after checking out several speed test websites, I'm beginning to doubt the one on bandwidthplace. Actually, while testing out several other speed test websites using my PC, I've gotten a smattering of different speeds reported. Most seemed to be within reason and about what I expected, but a few were either obviously too slow or absurdly too high. (Ony reported above 100 Mb/s downstream, even though my cable modem is a DCM-202!) The dslreport site seemed to be believable to me, so I'm sticking with it for now.
If it makes you feel better i work for AT&T in the DSL maintenance department and have for 6 years.. anytime i have anyone that reports slow speed issues i always take them to dslreports and use those speedtests.. they seem to be the most reliable that i have found..
Okay, I'll trust dslreports' speed test then!
So now the question is: Does a wifi speed of ~1600 kb/s sound "right" for the TyTn?
What makes me wonder is that when I run the dslreports speed test on my laptop via wifi, I get ~3.2 Mb/s. So I know my DI624 can pump out the bits! (Well, for 802.11g's max of 54 Mb/s, that's still kinna lame.)
I've pretty much exhausted all of the registry settings I can find. Got any others I can/should look into?
there are other things you need to take into account, the processor, the amount of ram, etc.. when you run a speed test it rely's on your pc to process the information as it comes down the pipe... if you really wanted to test it you could build a pc that resembled the phones specs and run a speed test and see what you get.. i would make a bet that it would resemble the same results
Do you know any registry key to improve the wifi trasnimt power?
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have you already went to settings>connections>wireless lan>power mode tab and changed the slider to best performance?
did it but no effects
Wi-Fi Reg Setting
I went through this post and compared the results to waht I have right now! Not too encouraging!
I have a 4MB connection rated at average to be a 3.5MB at www.speakeasy.net/speedtest using the New York Host!
Wi-Fi Reg Setting
I went through this post and compared the results to waht I have right now! Not too encouraging!
I have a 4MB connection rated at average to be a 3.5MB at www.speakeasy.net/speedtest using the New York Host!
I run a WRT54G with upgraded firmware downloaded from kinksys. Before that the damn thing wouldn't even connect to my TYTN.
Right now I am getting connection speeds through WiFi between 650kbps and 1200 kbps according to www.2wire.com speed test.
I have a Dopod 838Pro bought in HK in November to which I didn't do a Thing yet!
Cheers
Is 1.6 Mb/s the best TyTn can do?
Well I've fiddled with all the registry settings I could possibly fiddle with, and dslreports won't show anything above 1.6 Mb/s for on my TyTn (using PIE).
Has anyone gotten anything higher with their TyTn?
Sorry is this sounds stupid but how come the wifi speeds on the hero suck, i have 24mb down and 3mb up and my phone only can pick up 1.50mb down and 1mb up? Like is this the standard for phones or something? Shouldnt they be able to handle way faster wifi speeds? I read something a while back how some kid hacked the nexus one to run wireless n drivers i dont know how true that was but he had a video to back it up so idk it seemed pretty legit to me. Is there anything i can do to increase wifi speeds because its about the same as running on evdo and that sucks donkey d**k. any responses are kool
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UPDATE: Well i figured out why my wifi was only pulling only 1mb down on my hero it was because my routers settings were at wireless b only and b is old technology, so i changed my routers signal to wireless g and it jumped from 1mb to now its 5mb down. Problem solved...
Is 24 down/3 up your rated internet connection speed? Because I think you can really only get that kind of speed through a wired ethernet connection... wifi speeds cap out much earlier, even though routers might say 54 Mb/s ... which translates to ~6.75 MB/s, they never ever get that high in my experience. Note the different between Megabytes and Megabits. 8 bits = 1 byte.
TBH it sounds like you may have maxed out your wifi speed, depending on your wifi signal.
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Is 24 down/3 up your rated internet connection speed? Because I think you can really only get that kind of speed through a wired ethernet connection... wifi speeds cap out much earlier, even though routers might say 54 Mb/s ... which translates to ~6.75 MB/s, they never ever get that high in my experience. Note the different between Megabytes and Megabits. 8 bits = 1 byte.
TBH it sounds like you may have maxed out your wifi speed, depending on your wifi signal.
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most of what you said is true. however you can get much faster out of a wireless router. I have seen up to 30mb out of a wireless router. that being said. depending on your signal strength to your router you may experience slow downs as the router resends packets that either get corrupted or never make it due to interference and/or attenuation.
i have experienced the same thing. i use my laptop wifi and my phone wifi within inches of each other and have widely different speed test results. no idea why unless there is either a restriction or limitation with the phones driver/chipset
ok not trying to be rude or anything but i dont think u guys are reading correctly; my internet that i pay for is 24mb and 3mb up, wireless with my laptop since its wireless N is about 18mb down and 2mb up, but im referring to MY PHONE (HERO), i know speeds are faster on ethernet but how am i going to plug my hero via ethernet? that what i was asking, my question was why does my phone only connect up to 1.50 mb out of whatever my max speed is, is that all the hero can handle is 1.50mb? I guess the title was misleading cause it said faster wifi speeds and not faster HERO wifi speeds but i corrected it but thanks for ur responses guys
What site are you using to check your speeds? If it's speedtest.net then you may have it set to megabytes instead of megabits. If my math is right (don't count on it being anywhere close) then your differences in speed could be blamed on that.
I don't know of any way to "make it faster" besides moving closer to the router.
Off-Topic: My sig has my speed at OSU and its via wi-fi. I've had double that when not at peak times.
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What site are you using to check your speeds? If it's speedtest.net then you may have it set to megabytes instead of megabits. If my math is right (don't count on it being anywhere close) then your differences in speed could be blamed on that.
I don't know of any way to "make it faster" besides moving closer to the router.
Off-Topic: My sig has my speed at OSU and its via wi-fi. I've had double that when not at peak times.
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there is a speedtest.net app in the android market and u can test ur speeds, my hero can only pick up 1.5mb down out of my 24mb max speed.
i am in same ...
get about 2MB up and 1MB down.
My speculation:
I think it is the HERO ..
it is capped
or it can only process the Data coming in.. at a slower speed.
raido or CPU or the combination
Dan330 said:
i am in same ...
get about 2MB up and 1MB down.
My speculation:
I think it is the HERO ..
it is capped
or it can only process the Data coming in.. at a slower speed.
raido or CPU or the combination
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lol thanks you this is the answer i was looking for now i can sleep lol
UPDATE: wow so i feel really stupid i just changed my routers settings from wireless b to wireless g and it went from 1mb down cap to 5mb ahahaha oh my i feel stupid, now my internet was flying i knew something was weird because 1mb down was like i was still on evdo but on wife it didnt make sense to me.
How did you change the router settings to g from b?
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My down is .7 Mb and up is 2.5 Mb, I know way backwards! It dont matter what sever I use either, my router is set to G only, I even tried B and mixed, lol. I only pay for 12 down and 2 up, dang near exactly what I get on my PC, my hero just lags Runs same on wifi as it does on 3G both results are dang near the same!
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How did you change the router settings to g from b?
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i went in to my routers settings and the default ip address to access it. I have att uverse and i went in the settings and switched it to g and my wifi is way faster man i dont know how i went almost a year with wifi speeds of 1mb down, now im on g and my hero pics up 6mbs on a good day wooohooo.
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i went in to my routers settings and the default ip address to access it. I have att uverse and i went in the settings and switched it to g and my wifi is way faster man i dont know how i went almost a year with wifi speeds of 1mb down, now im on g and my hero pics up 6mbs on a good day wooohooo.
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This is working for you all, why isnt it working for me? I am set to wireless G on my router, ogged into to router by putting http://192.168.1.1/ into address bar, clicked wireless settings and changed from Mixed (b and g) to G. It didnt help my ol' hero Still got .7 Mb for down and 2.5 Mb for up. Totally backwards!
Did u try hitting apply in your router settings before u left the web page and waited for the page to close then try powering down ur router and powering it back up after waiting 3 to 5 min but this step you only need to do if you changed the router settings via wireless meaning if your changing your wireless settings while being connected to your wireless network IMO always changes ur router settings via landline and don't forget to hit apply if you didn't already do so just something to try hope it helps good luck
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Did u try hitting apply in your router settings before u left the web page and waited for the page to close then try powering down ur router and powering it back up after waiting 3 to 5 min but this step you only need to do if you changed the router settings via wireless meaning if your changing your wireless settings while being connected to your wireless network IMO always changes ur router settings via landline and don't forget to hit apply if you didn't already do so just something to try hope it helps good luck
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Yes, it was originally set to both B and G, this is a issue I have been having for a while now. I just never posted it, now that I seen this thread I decided to follow i and try whatever was recommended. My laptop gets the 12 down and same 2.5 up as my phone, just my phone only gets .7 Mb down. I have tried several servers, ran same servers as my laptop watching it pull 12 down and the hero .7 Is there a setting somewhere that is making me lag? I am using same kernels as everyone else, its been the same with all of them though
In cm6 settings / wifi setting wen u get there push the menu and go to advance wireless settings and select regulatory domains and try a different channel its set to 11 by default try that and hopefully that helps good luck oh and you might wanna go and pick up a new router or update ur current drivers on your existing one also take ur hero to a different wifi connection and test ur ul/dl speeds hope this helps
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cordell12 said:
This is working for you all, why isnt it working for me? I am set to wireless G on my router, ogged into to router by putting http://192.168.1.1/ into address bar, clicked wireless settings and changed from Mixed (b and g) to G. It didnt help my ol' hero Still got .7 Mb for down and 2.5 Mb for up. Totally backwards!
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It's not the phone dude you need to get into your routers settings and make sure its set to g only if you are getting .7 dwn something is terribly wrong man. What kind of router do you have? For example if its a linksys Google linksys login the model number and it will tell you how to login. The Linksys gateway is usually 192.168.1.1 is how you login. Also Firefox and Google chrome don't usually play nice with intranet try using internet explorer to do this. I have a netgear router and to login its www.mywifiext.net. let me know details maybe I can help you
I have no problems accessing my router settings. I dud a little testing, swapping rom's and kernels. I found it to be a kernel issue. Running BFS #14 is .7 down. Switching to CFS kernel I pull the 2.5 down. So I tried BFS #13, same issue. I posted in the kernel thread and didn't get any response. The posts get buried pretty fast in that thread. My phone does better with the BFS kernels, besides the wifi issue. What if anything can be echo into kernel to fix this? Or can someone else flash BFS and confirm please.
Thanks
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I have no problems accessing my router settings. I dud a little testing, swapping rom's and kernels. I found it to be a kernel issue. Running BFS #14 is .7 down. Switching to CFS kernel I pull the 2.5 down. So I tried BFS #13, same issue. I posted in the kernel thread and didn't get any response. The posts get buried pretty fast in that thread. My phone does better with the BFS kernels, besides the wifi issue. What if anything can be echo into kernel to fix this? Or can someone else flash BFS and confirm please.
Thanks
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I'm running bfs right now and I get 5.5mb dwn and 1.5mb up and I switched back to stable same thing. It can't be your kernel man that's almost I'm possible. How about you flash the same rom you are already on right on top of your current rom to reflash the default kernel image back on your phone and run the speed test app on your phone then run speed test.net in your browser to see your scores. If you are not on wifi your connection wont be all that great I can barely get 1mb dwn sometimes when on evdo but once I jump on wifi I get 5mb dwn and its same for me with bfs and cfs kernel I just tested it. I'm not sure I understand your problem correctly. I posted this thread because while on WIFI my wireless router was set to wireless b settings which was only allowing my phone to pull 1mb dwn on WIFI which was crazy to me cause I have 24mb dwn internet package. Our heroes only can really pull about 6 or 7mb dwn at the maximum. So changing settings in my router fixed that for me.
I am having a totally different issue than you were, both were slow down speeds, I was just hoping mine would be fixed the sane way yours was. My down speeds are not only slow at my home, but everywhere. McDonald, Starbucks, unsecured routers. BFS with any rom only gives me 0.7 Mb download while in wifi. If I run CFS my download improve to 2.5 Mb, that is my wifi. I haven't tested outside of my network with the CFS kernel. I feel speeds would increase where they can with CFS though. I have no clue what can be causing this, it's the sane on all roms, aosp, extremely blue, cm6.1, cm6.0
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I am having a totally different issue than you were, both were slow down speeds, I was just hoping mine would be fixed the sane way yours was. My down speeds are not only slow at my home, but everywhere. McDonald, Starbucks, unsecured routers. BFS with any rom only gives me 0.7 Mb download while in wifi. If I run CFS my download improve to 2.5 Mb, that is my wifi. I haven't tested outside of my network with the CFS kernel. I feel speeds would increase where they can with CFS though. I have no clue what can be causing this, it's the sane on all roms, aosp, extremely blue, cm6.1, cm6.0
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Ohhh ok man that's weird. Have you tried flashing to a stock sense rom and then testing it out? I don't know what else to say dude it all still has to be in the routers settings I guess that's the only thing I could suggest sorry man I got nothing lol
I noticed in the advanced wifi settings the option to tick 'best wi-fi performance' it says this may use more power. Anybody know what it actually does? Also is the DHD wireless n standard without having to do anything?
What rom are you using? I do not see this on leedroid
Just the standard ROM that comes on the phone as i havent rooted.
I have a question on this also
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What rom are you using? I do not see this on leedroid
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It will be there. You have to press menu on the wifi settings page.
Yep, this definitely uses more battery, this unfortunately is a must for me since I have the phone in a case and I get very poor reception with Wifi otherwise. GPS is also weak takes ages to lock.
It's under Settings -> Wireless & Networks -> Wi-Fi Settings -> Press menu button -> Advanced and it's there.
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Yep, this definitely uses more battery, this unfortunately is a must for me since I have the phone in a case and I get very poor reception with Wifi otherwise. GPS is also weak takes ages to lock.
It's under Settings -> Wireless & Networks -> Wi-Fi Settings -> Press menu button -> Advanced and it's there.
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So enabling it will help WiFi reception? I though it will only boost speed or something. Going to turn it on for a few days and see!
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It's under Settings -> Wireless & Networks -> Wi-Fi Settings -> Press menu button -> Advanced and it's there.
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Thanks Haha, never really thought of pressing menu in there kinda figured that was all there was
I'm only getting about 600kBps on a 1.5mBps internet line through WiFi. Going to test this over the next few days.
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This will activate the wlan-n mode...
But it uses lots of battery.
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Thanks Haha, never really thought of pressing menu in there kinda figured that was all there was
I'm only getting about 600kBps on a 1.5mBps internet line through WiFi. Going to test this over the next few days.
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Remember that the signal is never 100% and there is some loss in speed. I always use best wifi performance as it improves the signal and from my room which isn't too far from the router I can max my 5mbs connection which I find quite impressive. On 1.5mbps connection you should be maxing at around 170kbs.
it need more power than normal using
but, i dont know in leedroid hay rev have it
Speedtest.net with best wifi performance: 3703 kbps down 1244 kbps up
Without best wifi performance: 2909 kbps down 1214 kbps up
Makes a slight very slight difference. This was upstairs away from the router. Downstairs I can get 9-10 Mbps whether it is on or off, whereas on my laptop I can get 12-13 Mbps.
It does not apply the n-setting, because if I turn on the n-setting on my router, my phone disconnects from WiFi.
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Thanks Haha, never really thought of pressing menu in there kinda figured that was all there was
I'm only getting about 600kBps on a 1.5mBps internet line through WiFi. Going to test this over the next few days.
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I suppose you have a 1.5 megabit connection and a downstream of 600 kilobyte per second? One byte = 8 bit.
Because if it is like that, you should, as ErOR22 mentioned, not be able to get over 187.5 kB/s (if my calculation is accurate ^^).
If you really mean that you have 1.5 megabyte downstream you could try to get closer to the router and/or minimize the number of walls between you and your router. This should boost your speed.
battery drains real bad when you switch best performance to on and it does activite the n setting its one off HTC's power saving tricks. I have dual band router an my DHD connects fine
for signal, covering the battery cover kills wifi as thats were the antenna is.
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Remember that the signal is never 100% and there is some loss in speed. I always use best wifi performance as it improves the signal and from my room which isn't too far from the router I can max my 5mbs connection which I find quite impressive. On 1.5mbps connection you should be maxing at around 170kbs.
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My line is 1.5mbytes not bits. I usually hit 1600kbytes a second on my upstairs computer using WiFi g and not n. I should easily be getting 1MB/s at least on my phone
Edit: just did a few speed tests, 1mBps but when doing a lan transfer, it peaks at 900kBps averaging 600kBps. This is my problem. Lan share is useless
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My line is 1.5mbytes not bits. I usually hit 1600kbytes a second on my upstairs computer using WiFi g and not n. I should easily be getting 1MB/s at least on my phone
Edit: just did a few speed tests, 1mBps but when doing a lan transfer, it peaks at 900kBps averaging 600kBps. This is my problem. Lan share is useless
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That's interesting, you got your numbers wrong again lol. On 1.5Mbs connection you say you download at 1600kbs which is 1.6Mbs lol. Funny that, on LAN you should be getting a lot more. When testing LAN are you coping from from another computer that's on wireless?
When I turn on Best WiFi Performance I idle at around 70mA and with it turned off it's under 10mA, so a huge difference but I need it unfortunately.
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That's interesting, you got your numbers wrong again lol. On 1.5Mbs connection you say you download at 1600kbs which is 1.6Mbs lol. Funny that, on LAN you should be getting a lot more. When testing LAN are you coping from from another computer that's on wireless?
When I turn on Best WiFi Performance I idle at around 70mA and with it turned off it's under 10mA, so a huge difference but I need it unfortunately.
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kb = kilobits
kB = kilobytes
lowercase b is bits
uppercase is bytes
8 bits per byte, 1024 bytes per kilobyte, etc etc
speed varies because because tv runs off the same line. ~15mb/s without any TVs going or shows being recorded and ~10mb/s or so when 2 or more are being used, but I still only get like ~6-7mb/s on the dhd, same with lan shares accessed from the device
You have your units all mixed up.
Edit: beat me to it, and with an actually informative post... hei hei
Does anyone notice there's a big bug with WiFi on the G2?
I have 2 WiFi ac routers, one at home and one at the Office, an Asus RT-ac66U and a Linksys ea6700. Both capable of 1750mbps max speeds.
Internet speeds are 120/6 and 200/20.
Scenario is exactly the same for both routers;
When fresh reboot the router, G2 connects at a speed of 433Mbps.
Speedtests show results of 119/6 at home and 190/20 at the office.
Great you would say!
But here goes. Once WiFi get disconnected and reconnected, speeds go down to ~40mbps. No matter what I do!
These are N speeds, not AC
When looking at connection settings it still shows a link of 433mbps
Tested dozens of times, on both routers, so it has to be an issue with the G2.
Anyone else noticed the same??
DAMN, should have been in Q&A, mods plz move
I'm not an expert on wi-fi, but have stumbled through setting up several routers around the house. But I do not have an ac router.
Is the home router in mixed mode? Ignoring a/b/c for a moment and focusing on g and n (and implying ac), I have two wireless routers in the house. One runs N only (but both 2.4 ghz and 5 ghz) and the other runs G only. Now, my N router is capable of running in mixed mode (to handle both N and G) BUT in mixed mode, my max speed when connected in N is lower than it would be if I ran in dedicated N mode.
Most of my devices now are at least N (2.4 or 5) but I have an older printer and wii that only do G. But as mentioned above, rather than run my best router in mixed mode, I run 2 separate routers, one in N only and one in G only.
Maybe something similar might help with your ac speeds?
Really appreciate your input!
But I already tried settings like AC only etc. Doesn't make any difference.
Once connected for the second time and up to the router no more AC speeds...
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Is there a way to test LAN speeds on Android? I have the same Asus router but my wan speeds are so pitiful that I wouldn't be able to tell if the phone was dropping to N speeds. If I could test speeds to my desktop across the local network I might be able to test what you are experiencing.
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Is there a way to check on the phone, which band it's connecting to? I haven't found anything.
I have the same router and my issue is on reconnect. I leave my wifi on all the time. When I get home, it connects automatically the moment I pull up to the house. The problem is, the speed is severely crippled. Range is awesome, speed is bad. I have to cycle the wifi and reconnect. Once done, no more problems.
One thing I should note, I was having the same issue occasionally on my Droid RAZR after getting the ASUS. Does anyone know if they use the same wifi hardware? Maybe it's an issue with the router itself?
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Is there a way to test LAN speeds on Android? I have the same Asus router but my wan speeds are so pitiful that I wouldn't be able to tell if the phone was dropping to N speeds. If I could test speeds to my desktop across the local network I might be able to test what you are experiencing.
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Is there a way to check on the phone, which band it's connecting to? I haven't found anything.
I have the same router and my issue is on reconnect. I leave my wifi on all the time. When I get home, it connects automatically the moment I pull up to the house. The problem is, the speed is severely crippled. Range is awesome, speed is bad. I have to cycle the wifi and reconnect. Once done, no more problems.
One thing I should note, I was having the same issue occasionally on my Droid RAZR after getting the ASUS. Does anyone know if they use the same wifi hardware? Maybe it's an issue with the router itself?
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Don't know about an app to test lan speeds unfortunately.
Think a google search would come up with lots of options.
@crashN2u
I leave my wifi on too all the time for now, it keeps it at full speed then.
There's no way to check which band you are connected to.
Router doesn't have an option to choose AC Only, only N +AC
And in the mean time I have tested it with 4 AC routers, Asus RT-AC66U, Netgear R6250, Linksys EA6700, D-Link 868L.
With all routers exactly the same conclusion. First time everything is great. Excellent speeds. If you never turn off WiFi it remains at high speed.
But once you turn off WiFi on the Phone and turn it back on it immediately drops to ~36-40mbps max (N Speeds).
This remains until I rebooted each router and after that full speeds again.
It must be something in drivers LG used.
There's the solution to for, I'm sure of it by now.
Well, I can see I won't be much help -- especially since the same result on 4 routers!
I am not sure if the following app supports AC, but a very helpful and free app I use is called "Wifi Analyzer". I can't post links but that is the exact name (author = farproc).
It has many useful tools/functions that you may find helpful, switchable between 2.4 and 5.0 ghz, channel scanner, etc.
Does your 2.4 ghz N and 5.0 ghz N/AC have different SSID's? From what I read, AC is 5 ghz only and N can be either 2.4 ghz or 5.0 ghz. I wonder if you are dropping from 5.0 AC to 2.4 N because the 2.4 N is being detected as "stronger signal" than the 5.0 AC at reconnect time?
I named my 2.4 ghz N SSID as "Blah" and 5.0 ghz N SSID as "Blah_5ghz" just so I know what frequency I'm on at a glance (using a widget that shows the SSID) but many routers by default will have both SSID's the same, making it less obvious what band you are connected to. I also use an app called "WIFI Prioritizer" (author Robert Botha), which will allow me to connect or re-connect in the SSID order I specify: i.e. when I get home I will connect to SSID "Blah" (2.4 ghz N because it has the longest range). Every 5 mins (you can specify), it checks to see if my SSID "Blah_5Ghz" is in range and will switch to it if it is (you can also set signal strength connect and disconnect thresholds).
Anyways, I probably can't help further but am following this thread with interest. Good luck!
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Well, I can see I won't be much help -- especially since the same result on 4 routers!
I am not sure if the following app supports AC, but a very helpful and free app I use is called "Wifi Analyzer". I can't post links but that is the exact name (author = farproc).
It has many useful tools/functions that you may find helpful, switchable between 2.4 and 5.0 ghz, channel scanner, etc.
Does your 2.4 ghz N and 5.0 ghz N/AC have different SSID's? From what I read, AC is 5 ghz only and N can be either 2.4 ghz or 5.0 ghz. I wonder if you are dropping from 5.0 AC to 2.4 N because the 2.4 N is being detected as "stronger signal" than the 5.0 AC at reconnect time?
I named my 2.4 ghz N SSID as "Blah" and 5.0 ghz N SSID as "Blah_5ghz" just so I know what frequency I'm on at a glance (using a widget that shows the SSID) but many routers by default will have both SSID's the same, making it less obvious what band you are connected to. I also use an app called "WIFI Prioritizer" (author Robert Botha), which will allow me to connect or re-connect in the SSID order I specify: i.e. when I get home I will connect to SSID "Blah" (2.4 ghz N because it has the longest range). Every 5 mins (you can specify), it checks to see if my SSID "Blah_5Ghz" is in range and will switch to it if it is (you can also set signal strength connect and disconnect thresholds).
Anyways, I probably can't help further but am following this thread with interest. Good luck!
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My Phone is packed with tools like Wifi Analyser, InSISDer etc etc atm
I always separate 2.4 and 5ghz networks to be able to see exactly what's going on but thanks for the heads up :good:
From further investigation and thinking, and with your suggestion about stronger signals;
Thing is, AC routers are more or less all simultanious routers.
That combines 2.4 and 5ghz signals for higher transfer speeds.
I think in there lies the problem when drivers are not 100%.
In theory 2.4 signals are stronger then 5ghz signals and have wider range.
But in testing I made sure that I was in the same room and no more than 2 meters away from the router.
when testing it showed equal signal strength up to -20 so really strong signals.
Therefore I concluded that N on 2.4 whas equally strong as 5ghz and then again I isolated 5ghz SSID so that's not it unfortunately.
I promised to stay away but I can't resist!
Have you tried some of the more generic troubleshooting tips (on the home network), such as trying with no security or lesser security (WEP) to see if it still reconnects at the lower (N) speeds? I realize that usually that test is of course for a more basic issue than yours but maybe the G2 has trouble handling security overhead.
Some devices and routers just don't like each other (as many know), but 4 different routers...?! Gotta be the G2 side, as you've surmised. Wish I knew someone with an ac router so I could test myself. I'm debating on getting an ac router but you've got me spooked! (kidding/teasing)
Well haven't tried lower or no security.
When I have the chance (aka the wife is away and not *****ing about wifi not available ) I'll sure try that.
But I don't think that WEP will be an option because AC requires AES protection if I'm not mistaken.
But really do not be afraid to get yourself an AC router hehe.
No honestly, I've tested 4 routers with:
AC Capable:
HTC One. Goes all the way to max isp speeds. All the time, no issues
LG G2.
Not AC Capable.
IPhone 5. Max speed at 5ghz (constantly tested) is ~90-100mpbs.
HTC One X. Max speed at 5ghz (constantly tested) is ~70-90mpbs.
So even if your hardware maybe not be capable of AC speeds you still get excellent connections
Oh and for the record.
Here's my personal listing of the hardware I've tested. From best to well not so good.
1. Netgear R6250.
Excellent constant speeds. No drops whatsoever with around 6 devices connected. Excellent range!
2. Asus RT-AC66U
Shame Asus introduced a new wifi driver some time ago which doesn't perform that well. Constant speed drops.
They know about it but thusfar no solution.
When you get this one, stay on old firmware for now!
3. D-link 868L
Real looker this one. Can be put in plain sight in the room like a picture frame :silly:
Great constant speeds, but some drops here and there.
Excellent range.
4. Linksys EA6700
Linksys is sold to Belkin by Cisco.
Up to now I have never seen anything good coming from Belkin!
What a piece of crap.
With a really thin wall between router and phones coverage went down more dan half. Hell even when distance less than 2 meters away coverage was about -45.
Do not get this crap!
I wonder... the wireless N spec (not sure if also AC) calls for devices and routers to have a 'low power mode', which may or may not be enabled in routers and/or phones (e.g. GS3) by default. According to some article I read, newer routers may go into a power saving mode if it detects low traffic and supposedly ramp up when the traffic increases.
Possibly it doesn't ramp up fast enough when a new device connects and the device mistakes it for not having the highest speed (AC) capability. Might explain fast speeds after router bootup but not later. If there is any truth to that (no clue here), it might speed itself up either by testing with a larger file or seeing if the "2nd connect" condition changes while say, streaming videos from the PC to the Xbox or watching Netflix on the main TV. Certainly, either would be considered high traffic and if there is no change to the 2nd connect, well -- there goes that idea.
Is there a wifi power saving mode on the G2 like there is on the GS3? (i.e. dialing *#0011# to turn it off).
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I wonder... the wireless N spec (not sure if also AC) calls for devices and routers to have a 'low power mode', which may or may not be enabled in routers and/or phones (e.g. GS3) by default. According to some article I read, newer routers may go into a power saving mode if it detects low traffic and supposedly ramp up when the traffic increases.
Possibly it doesn't ramp up fast enough when a new device connects and the device mistakes it for not having the highest speed (AC) capability. Might explain fast speeds after router bootup but not later. If there is any truth to that (no clue here), it might speed itself up either by testing with a larger file or seeing if the "2nd connect" condition changes while say, streaming videos from the PC to the Xbox or watching Netflix on the main TV. Certainly, either would be considered high traffic and if there is no change to the 2nd connect, well -- there goes that idea.
Is there a wifi power saving mode on the G2 like there is on the GS3? (i.e. dialing *#0011# to turn it off).
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Good point!
Well, there is a setting in wifi, advanced to minimize use of wifi when screen is off. Sounds like a power save mode to me.
But, just tested it and that makes no difference.
With that setting deactivated on the G2 still at first boot AC speeds and when I switch off and on wifi I still get N speeds max.
And besides that, on the Asus router there's a setting called "Enable WMM APSD". Which stands for "Automatic Power Save Delivery".
I read up on that and the custom firmware guru RMerlin writes about that setting that especially Android devices could suffer from that setting.
So I disabled that a long time ago.
On other routers I couldn't find such setting.
But to iron that setting out I just tested it once more.
First with setting off. Still first connect AC speeds, after turn off/on back to N speed.
Then turned wifi off, enabled the setting and rebooted the router.
But this time to let the supposedly power save kick in I let my Phone idle for 15 minutes so that it surely was in deep sleep.
Then turned screen on, and again AC speeds when first connected.
After that turned wifi off, screen of for 15 minutes. Turned screen on again and once more N speed.
And link speed is always shown as 433mbps btw, which is correct.
There's just some bug in driver code by LG which doesn't work correctly.
I'm more and more convinced of that.
For now I just keep wifi on all the time so that I always get full speeds.
Batt is capable enough so no problem there
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Good point!
Well, there is a setting in wifi, advanced to minimize use of wifi when screen is off. Sounds like a power save mode to me.
But, just tested it and that makes no difference.
With that setting deactivated on the G2 still at first boot AC speeds and when I switch off and on wifi I still get N speeds max.
And besides that, on the Asus router there's a setting called "Enable WMM APSD". Which stands for "Automatic Power Save Delivery".
I read up on that and the custom firmware guru RMerlin writes about that setting that especially Android devices could suffer from that setting.
So I disabled that a long time ago.
On other routers I couldn't find such setting.
But to iron that setting out I just tested it once more.
First with setting off. Still first connect AC speeds, after turn off/on back to N speed.
Then turned wifi off, enabled the setting and rebooted the router.
But this time to let the supposedly power save kick in I let my Phone idle for 15 minutes so that it surely was in deep sleep.
Then turned screen on, and again AC speeds when first connected.
After that turned wifi off, screen of for 15 minutes. Turned screen on again and once more N speed.
And link speed is always shown as 433mbps btw, which is correct.
There's just some bug in driver code by LG which doesn't work correctly.
I'm more and more convinced of that.
For now I just keep wifi on all the time so that I always get full speeds.
Batt is capable enough so no problem there
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I found a tool to test local network speed. It uses two android devices for a p2p test or you can install a server program on your PC. I'll do some testing and see if I can reproduce what you are seeing. Here's the link: http://pzoleeblogen.wordpress.com/2013/08/12/local-network-speed-test-for-android/ and the market link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pzolee.android.localwifispeedtester&hl=en
And to be sure I understand, you boot your phone with wifi on, AC speeds. Turn off wifi on phone and turn it back on, N speeds. Reboot phone with wifi on, back to AC speeds. Correct?
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I found a tool to test local network speed. It uses two android devices for a p2p test or you can install a server program on your PC. I'll do some testing and see if I can reproduce what you are seeing. Here's the link: http://pzoleeblogen.wordpress.com/2013/08/12/local-network-speed-test-for-android/ and the market link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pzolee.android.localwifispeedtester&hl=en
And to be sure I understand, you boot your phone with wifi on, AC speeds. Turn off wifi on phone and turn it back on, N speeds. Reboot phone with wifi on, back to AC speeds. Correct?
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Thanks for the app!
Gonna test this for sure since I also have a HTC One lying around which is also AC capable
Not 100% corect.
I can do with phone what I want until wifi gets turned off.
Then a reboot of the router is required to get AC speed back.
No need to reboot the phone.
Quite busy atm so don't have enough time I would like to be testing
LittleH79 said:
Thanks for the app!
Gonna test this for sure since I also have a HTC One lying around which is also AC capable
Not 100% corect.
I can do with phone what I want until wifi gets turned off.
Then a reboot of the router is required to get AC speed back.
No need to reboot the phone.
Quite busy atm so don't have enough time I would like to be testing
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Between my wife on her laptop, my son on his Chromebook and my daughter streaming Netflix on our Roku, I hardly ever have a chance to reboot the router without someone complaining
Since I haven't rebooted my router in days, from what you are saying I shouldn't see anything above N speeds until I reboot the router. Do you actually have to turn off wifi on the phone to have it drop from AC to N or is it enough to leave the range of the wifi and then come back? And does if turning it off is required, do I have to be connected to the router at the time I turn phone wifi off?
I'll try testing this weekend.
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Between my wife on her laptop, my son on his Chromebook and my daughter streaming Netflix on our Roku, I hardly ever have a chance to reboot the router without someone complaining
Since I haven't rebooted my router in days, from what you are saying I shouldn't see anything above N speeds until I reboot the router. Do you actually have to turn off wifi on the phone to have it drop from AC to N or is it enough to leave the range of the wifi and then come back? And does if turning it off is required, do I have to be connected to the router at the time I turn phone wifi off?
I'll try testing this weekend.
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Going out of range isn't a problem as long as you don't have an app or setting on in wifi, advanced to switch off wifi.
As long as wifi isn't turned off I can go everywhere, in&out of range, other routers connect but speeds remain AC, everywhere on every router.
I can reproduce everytime that when I turn off wifi on the phone and back on from then on I only get ~36-40mbps max.
It's like the phone thinks that's max capable speed altough wifi link speed is again shown as 433mbps.
If I have switched off wifi on the phone and back on, on all 4 AC routers I tested all needed a router reboot to gain full AC speeds again.
Oh and maybe a small tip, I always say to the misses at home that there's a small problem with connection so a quick reboot is required.
Up to now that still works
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Going out of range isn't a problem as long as you don't have an app or setting on in wifi, advanced to switch off wifi.
As long as wifi isn't turned off I can go everywhere, in&out of range, other routers connect but speeds remain AC, everywhere on every router.
I can reproduce everytime that when I turn off wifi on the phone and back on from then on I only get ~36-40mbps max.
It's like the phone thinks that's max capable speed altough wifi link speed is again shown as 433mbps.
If I have switched off wifi on the phone and back on, on all 4 AC routers I tested all needed a router reboot to gain full AC speeds again.
Oh and maybe a small tip, I always say to the misses at home that there's a small problem with connection so a quick reboot is required.
Up to now that still works
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I just did a few tests from my phone to my pc with 100MB data sets. I got between 200 and 260 Mbit/s down both before and after toggling my phone's wifi off and on. Didn't seem to make a difference. I got about 6Mbit up.
So, I didn't seem to experience the problem you have. But try repeating what I've done with this local network app. Maybe you won't have the issue with it that you are seeing on your WAN connection.
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I just did a few tests from my phone to my pc with 100MB data sets. I got between 200 and 260 Mbit/s down both before and after toggling my phone's wifi off and on. Didn't seem to make a difference. I got about 6Mbit up.
So, I didn't seem to experience the problem you have. But try repeating what I've done with this local network app. Maybe you won't have the issue with it that you are seeing on your WAN connection.
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What router or AP do you use?
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shaglord said:
What router or AP do you use?
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Asus RT-AC66U
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Asus RT-AC66U
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Wow and do you really see real transfer rates of 25-30 MB/s to your G2?
I'm using a Qualcomm Atheros based AC-router and my G2 (running latest CM11) hardly goes over 10 Mbit ~ 1,5 MB/s. Weak I know. (Confirmed 433 Mbit link using a wifi app.)
Maybe I need a broadcom-router like yours to see some real AC-speeds.
Thanks for the reply. Take care
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Hi, i have the phone 1 when ever I use a wifi 4 router internet internet speed is significantly low like 800 kbps to 2 Mbps on a 100 MBPS internet.
When I checked with router it says wifi power saving mode is on by phone.
Anyone know how to access engineering mode?
Can i disable wifi power saving some how?
Even I am facing the same issue. my one plus shows 65 to 85 Mbps but nothing phone shows less than 1 Mbps
ags34 said:
Hi, i have the phone 1 when ever I use a wifi 4 router internet internet speed is significantly low like 800 kbps to 2 Mbps on a 100 MBPS internet.
When I checked with router it says wifi power saving mode is on by phone.
Anyone know how to access engineering mode?
Can i disable wifi power saving some how?
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Have you found any solution? or work around?
Dark$ider said:
Have you found any solution? or work around?
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Changed wifi to 802.11 n mode only and using 40 MHz band right now speed improved to 25-30 Mbps but never found a solution to this my OnePlus 7 next to me constantly hit 85-90 mpbs from same place and connected to same WiFi.
And i don't know what is causing this issue yet.
I seen only with wifi 5 GHz the phone wifi is working fine but if you connect to 2.4ghz speed is very bad.
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Changed wifi to 802.11 n mode only and using 40 MHz band right now speed improved to 25-30 Mbps but never found a solution to this my OnePlus 7 next to me constantly hit 85-90 mpbs from same place and connected to same WiFi.
And i don't know what is causing this issue yet.
I seen only with wifi 5 GHz the phone wifi is working fine but if you connect to 2.4ghz speed is very bad.
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I tried changing the router channel and set it to 11 I started to get 85-100 Mbps on fast.com but again it stops after 2-3 min ad the same issue
Dark$ider said:
I tried changing the router channel and set it to 11 I started to get 85-100 Mbps on fast.com but again it stops after 2-3 min ad the same issue
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Same it work for 1 to 2 times in speedtest results shows high speeds but drops to 1-3mbps instantly.
Currently I'm getting 30 Mbps by following above method can you try once and see if 802.11 n only not working try 802.11 G + N it is also working fine for me.
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Same it work for 1 to 2 times in speedtest results shows high speeds but drops to 1-3mbps instantly.
Currently I'm getting 30 Mbps by following above method can you try once and see if 802.11 n only not working try 802.11 G + N it is also working fine for me.
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Yeah i am using 2.4(B+G+N) one tweak i did now is set channel width to 20MHz or 40MHz instead of 20/40 and now back to 70 to 90 Mbps now its not dropping ensured by disconnecting also restarting device
ags34 said:
Hi, i have the phone 1 when ever I use a wifi 4 router internet internet speed is significantly low like 800 kbps to 2 Mbps on a 100 MBPS internet.
When I checked with router it says wifi power saving mode is on by phone.
Anyone know how to access engineering mode?
Can i disable wifi power saving some how?
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I am facing the similar issue.how did u solve ur problem?
I use a wifi6 router so my phone has almost 700 MBps download in same room with the router and between walls I have almost 600 MBps . ISP provider is set on 1GB . Those results are by default settings on my phone .
There is under developper options one particular setting about internet connection reffering to " limit network bandwith download " which is applied to all networks that phone is connecting to . There are some limits like = No limits , 128 kbps , 256 kbps , 1Mbps , 5 MBps and 15 MBps . Choose NO Limits .
Mine No limits is by default .
It is known that bandwith on 2,4 GB band is much lower than 5GB . Also router must know and deal with MiMo wich Nothing Phone is capable . Even more there are plenty of WiFi analyzer apks that help you to choose the best channels and/or band on both 2,4 GB and 5 GB band of router . I must say between 3 new phones I use now , Nothing Phone has the best modem radio chip .
I guess you all faced to some router problems . Phone is fine , except that limit set under developper settings which like I said is set to NO Limits but check it out