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Interesting WiFi Reg Setting

Did anyone else notice this registry entry?
[HKLM\Comm\TIACXWLN1\Params]
"EnableElpMode"=dword:00000000
If I'm not mistaken, the TyTn has a TI ACX100 WiFi chip, and this chip has TI's "Enhanced Low Power(tm) Technology". I've enabled it on my TyTn, and so far it seems to do no harm. I'll have to see if my battery power improves over the next week.

Correction...
Ah, the htc TyTn has TI's TNETW1250 chip. My mistake.
In any case, I think the EnableElpMode (if it really does work) would be a good thing. Also, I've seen a few webpages suggesting an additional key:
"dot11SupportedRateMaskG"=dword:00000008
Apparently this key tells the driver it's okay to do any 802.11g speed. I'm going to go find out!

let us know how it goes....

1st set of test results
First, I should detail the equipment I'm using.
My wifi router: D-Link 624.
My phone: htc TyTn, QTEK ROM 1.35.255.2 (Radio 1.18.00.10)
My laptop: IBM Thinkpad T22, w/ Hawking Techmologies HWC54D wifi card, Win2k.
My PC: P4 2.4GHz, asus P4P800 (has Gb lan), WinXP.
Results so far: (using http://www.bandwidthplace.com/speedtest, and sitting right next to my DI624)
PC: 5.3 Mb/s
Laptop (w/wifi): 3.4 Mb/s
TyTn: ~250 kb/s
Notes:
In one test I set the DI624 to use 802.11g only. Without any registry tweaks, the TyTn connected up just fine. Therefore, I suspect that the dot11SupportedRateMaskG key is no longer needed.
Curious to see if I could boost the TyTn's wifi speed, I began fiddling with all of the different registry settings under that heading (listed above). The wifi speed always hovered in the 250 kb/s range. It seems as though none of those settings significantly changed the wifi speed.
There was one key that did make a big difference in the time it take to actually connect up to the wifi router. Setting "dot11ShortPreambleInvoked" to 1 greatly sped up the time from wifi-off to wifi-connected-and-ready. (My DI624 was also configured for a short preamble.) Without the short preamble, it was taking between 10-30 seconds for the TyTn to connect up. With the short preamble it's between 5-10 seconds.
(Side note: The "Testmode" key didn't seem to do anything - at least I didn't see any difference when I set that to 1.)
One other key that did make a small difference:
[HKLM\Comm\Tcpip\Params]
"TCPWindowSize"=65536
I played around with this key, and it seems like setting it to 4096 "optimized" it just a bit. I got around 270 kb/s with that setting. Setting it bigger (say, 256k) slowed things down (~240 kb/s), while setting it smaller (say, 1k) really slowed things down (~170 kb/s!).
I'm going to continue fiddling around with the settings and report back again. It just seems to me that the TyTn should be able to achieve a wifi speed at least above 1 Mb/s. I would appreciate it if everyone else would check their wifi speed and post the results here as well.
p.s. If anyone knows of a PocketPC utility that can show detailed wifi connection information (such as speed, frequency, protocol, etc.) please let me know!

250 kpbs, that cant be correct? can it?
that would mean that HSDPA is faster than hermes wifi? I will test mine when my wife gives it back to me, im grounded for the holiday season. lol
something is terribly wrong here......

yes, there is something wrong here... I think you need to turn on flight mode before you run your wireless test again, and here is why... On my phone i have my data connection set to always on. If i turn on wifi then my data connection doesnt disconnect and will result in low speeds since its not using the wifi. If i turn mine on flight mode then run tests then everything is good. Here is my results using the same site as the OP
PC = 1.9
phone = 1.4
I am using a 3meg adsl pipe with a wireless SMC router with mac filtering, regular wep, and a static set up on the LAN side.

Progress!
I changed my wifi speed test to: http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed
Surprisingly, that speed test reported 1647 kb/s for my TyTn!
Fiddling with the TCPWindowSize value, it seems that 64k is optimum - well, at least with the dslreports test.

i usually use dsl reports, but i wanted to maintain some kind of constant for your testing

Wireless settings / b-g connections
Hi, I;ve just got a TyTn but it won't connect to my Netgear 802.11g router?? Is it b-only? Is there a hack (like for the Universal) which would enable me to connect to g networks? Would I still be able to connect to b-networks?
Thanks!

motoroller said:
I;ve just got a TyTn but it won't connect to my Netgear 802.11g router??
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My TyTn is fairly new (bought last month) and I can configure my DI624 to 802.11g only, and connect up just fine. What ROM version does your TyTn have? I'm on the QTEK 1.35.255.2 ROM. If you TyTn is right-out-of-the-box, it's probably got the QTEK 1.18.xxx.x. If that's so, you should consider unlocking it and upgrading it to one of the latest ROMs.
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Is it b-only?
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The htc TyTn (Hermes) has the TI TNETW1250 wifi chip. This chip is 802.11g capable.
motoroller said:
Is there a hack (like for the Universal) which would enable me to connect to g networks?
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You can try adding this registry key (although I'm not sure it will do anything on the TyTn):
[HKLM\Comm\TIACXWLN1\Params]
"dot11SupportedRateMaskG"=dword:00000008
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Would I still be able to connect to b-networks?
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Yes. Wifi chips that support 802.11g always support 802.11b (AFAIK).
Good luck!

shogunmark said:
i usually use dsl reports, but i wanted to maintain some kind of constant for your testing
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Yeah, after checking out several speed test websites, I'm beginning to doubt the one on bandwidthplace. Actually, while testing out several other speed test websites using my PC, I've gotten a smattering of different speeds reported. Most seemed to be within reason and about what I expected, but a few were either obviously too slow or absurdly too high. (Ony reported above 100 Mb/s downstream, even though my cable modem is a DCM-202!) The dslreport site seemed to be believable to me, so I'm sticking with it for now.

If it makes you feel better i work for AT&T in the DSL maintenance department and have for 6 years.. anytime i have anyone that reports slow speed issues i always take them to dslreports and use those speedtests.. they seem to be the most reliable that i have found..

Okay, I'll trust dslreports' speed test then!
So now the question is: Does a wifi speed of ~1600 kb/s sound "right" for the TyTn?
What makes me wonder is that when I run the dslreports speed test on my laptop via wifi, I get ~3.2 Mb/s. So I know my DI624 can pump out the bits! (Well, for 802.11g's max of 54 Mb/s, that's still kinna lame.)
I've pretty much exhausted all of the registry settings I can find. Got any others I can/should look into?

there are other things you need to take into account, the processor, the amount of ram, etc.. when you run a speed test it rely's on your pc to process the information as it comes down the pipe... if you really wanted to test it you could build a pc that resembled the phones specs and run a speed test and see what you get.. i would make a bet that it would resemble the same results

Do you know any registry key to improve the wifi trasnimt power?

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Do you know any registry key to improve the wifi trasnimt power?
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have you already went to settings>connections>wireless lan>power mode tab and changed the slider to best performance?

did it but no effects

Wi-Fi Reg Setting
I went through this post and compared the results to waht I have right now! Not too encouraging!
I have a 4MB connection rated at average to be a 3.5MB at www.speakeasy.net/speedtest using the New York Host!

Wi-Fi Reg Setting
I went through this post and compared the results to waht I have right now! Not too encouraging!
I have a 4MB connection rated at average to be a 3.5MB at www.speakeasy.net/speedtest using the New York Host!
I run a WRT54G with upgraded firmware downloaded from kinksys. Before that the damn thing wouldn't even connect to my TYTN.
Right now I am getting connection speeds through WiFi between 650kbps and 1200 kbps according to www.2wire.com speed test.
I have a Dopod 838Pro bought in HK in November to which I didn't do a Thing yet!
Cheers

Is 1.6 Mb/s the best TyTn can do?
Well I've fiddled with all the registry settings I could possibly fiddle with, and dslreports won't show anything above 1.6 Mb/s for on my TyTn (using PIE).
Has anyone gotten anything higher with their TyTn?

I want FASTER HERO wifi speeds?

Sorry is this sounds stupid but how come the wifi speeds on the hero suck, i have 24mb down and 3mb up and my phone only can pick up 1.50mb down and 1mb up? Like is this the standard for phones or something? Shouldnt they be able to handle way faster wifi speeds? I read something a while back how some kid hacked the nexus one to run wireless n drivers i dont know how true that was but he had a video to back it up so idk it seemed pretty legit to me. Is there anything i can do to increase wifi speeds because its about the same as running on evdo and that sucks donkey d**k. any responses are kool
Nexus One learns wireless n
UPDATE: Well i figured out why my wifi was only pulling only 1mb down on my hero it was because my routers settings were at wireless b only and b is old technology, so i changed my routers signal to wireless g and it jumped from 1mb to now its 5mb down. Problem solved...

Is 24 down/3 up your rated internet connection speed? Because I think you can really only get that kind of speed through a wired ethernet connection... wifi speeds cap out much earlier, even though routers might say 54 Mb/s ... which translates to ~6.75 MB/s, they never ever get that high in my experience. Note the different between Megabytes and Megabits. 8 bits = 1 byte.
TBH it sounds like you may have maxed out your wifi speed, depending on your wifi signal.

c00ller said:
Is 24 down/3 up your rated internet connection speed? Because I think you can really only get that kind of speed through a wired ethernet connection... wifi speeds cap out much earlier, even though routers might say 54 Mb/s ... which translates to ~6.75 MB/s, they never ever get that high in my experience. Note the different between Megabytes and Megabits. 8 bits = 1 byte.
TBH it sounds like you may have maxed out your wifi speed, depending on your wifi signal.
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most of what you said is true. however you can get much faster out of a wireless router. I have seen up to 30mb out of a wireless router. that being said. depending on your signal strength to your router you may experience slow downs as the router resends packets that either get corrupted or never make it due to interference and/or attenuation.
i have experienced the same thing. i use my laptop wifi and my phone wifi within inches of each other and have widely different speed test results. no idea why unless there is either a restriction or limitation with the phones driver/chipset

ok not trying to be rude or anything but i dont think u guys are reading correctly; my internet that i pay for is 24mb and 3mb up, wireless with my laptop since its wireless N is about 18mb down and 2mb up, but im referring to MY PHONE (HERO), i know speeds are faster on ethernet but how am i going to plug my hero via ethernet? that what i was asking, my question was why does my phone only connect up to 1.50 mb out of whatever my max speed is, is that all the hero can handle is 1.50mb? I guess the title was misleading cause it said faster wifi speeds and not faster HERO wifi speeds but i corrected it but thanks for ur responses guys

What site are you using to check your speeds? If it's speedtest.net then you may have it set to megabytes instead of megabits. If my math is right (don't count on it being anywhere close) then your differences in speed could be blamed on that.
I don't know of any way to "make it faster" besides moving closer to the router.
Off-Topic: My sig has my speed at OSU and its via wi-fi. I've had double that when not at peak times.

mbobino said:
What site are you using to check your speeds? If it's speedtest.net then you may have it set to megabytes instead of megabits. If my math is right (don't count on it being anywhere close) then your differences in speed could be blamed on that.
I don't know of any way to "make it faster" besides moving closer to the router.
Off-Topic: My sig has my speed at OSU and its via wi-fi. I've had double that when not at peak times.
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there is a speedtest.net app in the android market and u can test ur speeds, my hero can only pick up 1.5mb down out of my 24mb max speed.

i am in same ...
get about 2MB up and 1MB down.
My speculation:
I think it is the HERO ..
it is capped
or it can only process the Data coming in.. at a slower speed.
raido or CPU or the combination

Dan330 said:
i am in same ...
get about 2MB up and 1MB down.
My speculation:
I think it is the HERO ..
it is capped
or it can only process the Data coming in.. at a slower speed.
raido or CPU or the combination
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lol thanks you this is the answer i was looking for now i can sleep lol
UPDATE: wow so i feel really stupid i just changed my routers settings from wireless b to wireless g and it went from 1mb down cap to 5mb ahahaha oh my i feel stupid, now my internet was flying i knew something was weird because 1mb down was like i was still on evdo but on wife it didnt make sense to me.

How did you change the router settings to g from b?
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My down is .7 Mb and up is 2.5 Mb, I know way backwards! It dont matter what sever I use either, my router is set to G only, I even tried B and mixed, lol. I only pay for 12 down and 2 up, dang near exactly what I get on my PC, my hero just lags Runs same on wifi as it does on 3G both results are dang near the same!

dad0507 said:
How did you change the router settings to g from b?
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i went in to my routers settings and the default ip address to access it. I have att uverse and i went in the settings and switched it to g and my wifi is way faster man i dont know how i went almost a year with wifi speeds of 1mb down, now im on g and my hero pics up 6mbs on a good day wooohooo.

dirkyd3rk said:
i went in to my routers settings and the default ip address to access it. I have att uverse and i went in the settings and switched it to g and my wifi is way faster man i dont know how i went almost a year with wifi speeds of 1mb down, now im on g and my hero pics up 6mbs on a good day wooohooo.
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This is working for you all, why isnt it working for me? I am set to wireless G on my router, ogged into to router by putting http://192.168.1.1/ into address bar, clicked wireless settings and changed from Mixed (b and g) to G. It didnt help my ol' hero Still got .7 Mb for down and 2.5 Mb for up. Totally backwards!

Did u try hitting apply in your router settings before u left the web page and waited for the page to close then try powering down ur router and powering it back up after waiting 3 to 5 min but this step you only need to do if you changed the router settings via wireless meaning if your changing your wireless settings while being connected to your wireless network IMO always changes ur router settings via landline and don't forget to hit apply if you didn't already do so just something to try hope it helps good luck
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laie1472 said:
Did u try hitting apply in your router settings before u left the web page and waited for the page to close then try powering down ur router and powering it back up after waiting 3 to 5 min but this step you only need to do if you changed the router settings via wireless meaning if your changing your wireless settings while being connected to your wireless network IMO always changes ur router settings via landline and don't forget to hit apply if you didn't already do so just something to try hope it helps good luck
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Yes, it was originally set to both B and G, this is a issue I have been having for a while now. I just never posted it, now that I seen this thread I decided to follow i and try whatever was recommended. My laptop gets the 12 down and same 2.5 up as my phone, just my phone only gets .7 Mb down. I have tried several servers, ran same servers as my laptop watching it pull 12 down and the hero .7 Is there a setting somewhere that is making me lag? I am using same kernels as everyone else, its been the same with all of them though

In cm6 settings / wifi setting wen u get there push the menu and go to advance wireless settings and select regulatory domains and try a different channel its set to 11 by default try that and hopefully that helps good luck oh and you might wanna go and pick up a new router or update ur current drivers on your existing one also take ur hero to a different wifi connection and test ur ul/dl speeds hope this helps
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cordell12 said:
This is working for you all, why isnt it working for me? I am set to wireless G on my router, ogged into to router by putting http://192.168.1.1/ into address bar, clicked wireless settings and changed from Mixed (b and g) to G. It didnt help my ol' hero Still got .7 Mb for down and 2.5 Mb for up. Totally backwards!
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It's not the phone dude you need to get into your routers settings and make sure its set to g only if you are getting .7 dwn something is terribly wrong man. What kind of router do you have? For example if its a linksys Google linksys login the model number and it will tell you how to login. The Linksys gateway is usually 192.168.1.1 is how you login. Also Firefox and Google chrome don't usually play nice with intranet try using internet explorer to do this. I have a netgear router and to login its www.mywifiext.net. let me know details maybe I can help you

I have no problems accessing my router settings. I dud a little testing, swapping rom's and kernels. I found it to be a kernel issue. Running BFS #14 is .7 down. Switching to CFS kernel I pull the 2.5 down. So I tried BFS #13, same issue. I posted in the kernel thread and didn't get any response. The posts get buried pretty fast in that thread. My phone does better with the BFS kernels, besides the wifi issue. What if anything can be echo into kernel to fix this? Or can someone else flash BFS and confirm please.
Thanks
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I have no problems accessing my router settings. I dud a little testing, swapping rom's and kernels. I found it to be a kernel issue. Running BFS #14 is .7 down. Switching to CFS kernel I pull the 2.5 down. So I tried BFS #13, same issue. I posted in the kernel thread and didn't get any response. The posts get buried pretty fast in that thread. My phone does better with the BFS kernels, besides the wifi issue. What if anything can be echo into kernel to fix this? Or can someone else flash BFS and confirm please.
Thanks
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I'm running bfs right now and I get 5.5mb dwn and 1.5mb up and I switched back to stable same thing. It can't be your kernel man that's almost I'm possible. How about you flash the same rom you are already on right on top of your current rom to reflash the default kernel image back on your phone and run the speed test app on your phone then run speed test.net in your browser to see your scores. If you are not on wifi your connection wont be all that great I can barely get 1mb dwn sometimes when on evdo but once I jump on wifi I get 5mb dwn and its same for me with bfs and cfs kernel I just tested it. I'm not sure I understand your problem correctly. I posted this thread because while on WIFI my wireless router was set to wireless b settings which was only allowing my phone to pull 1mb dwn on WIFI which was crazy to me cause I have 24mb dwn internet package. Our heroes only can really pull about 6 or 7mb dwn at the maximum. So changing settings in my router fixed that for me.

I am having a totally different issue than you were, both were slow down speeds, I was just hoping mine would be fixed the sane way yours was. My down speeds are not only slow at my home, but everywhere. McDonald, Starbucks, unsecured routers. BFS with any rom only gives me 0.7 Mb download while in wifi. If I run CFS my download improve to 2.5 Mb, that is my wifi. I haven't tested outside of my network with the CFS kernel. I feel speeds would increase where they can with CFS though. I have no clue what can be causing this, it's the sane on all roms, aosp, extremely blue, cm6.1, cm6.0
Thanks
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cordell12 said:
I am having a totally different issue than you were, both were slow down speeds, I was just hoping mine would be fixed the sane way yours was. My down speeds are not only slow at my home, but everywhere. McDonald, Starbucks, unsecured routers. BFS with any rom only gives me 0.7 Mb download while in wifi. If I run CFS my download improve to 2.5 Mb, that is my wifi. I haven't tested outside of my network with the CFS kernel. I feel speeds would increase where they can with CFS though. I have no clue what can be causing this, it's the sane on all roms, aosp, extremely blue, cm6.1, cm6.0
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Ohhh ok man that's weird. Have you tried flashing to a stock sense rom and then testing it out? I don't know what else to say dude it all still has to be in the routers settings I guess that's the only thing I could suggest sorry man I got nothing lol

[Q] Wifi Streaming Lags

Guys
I have not been able to stream 5 secs of the transformer video or any youtube video without significant stutter and lag. I have plenty of speed with my home wifi as far as i know. I have 20+mbs with Comcast and never have issues with my wifi.
what could be wrong...is it my N7 or my router?

I'm so happy someone else has this issue. Well not happy but happy to know I'm not the only one. I have 30+ download on my home WiFi and it lags when I try to watch YouTube also. Its very annoying. It can't be my WiFi because I have tried several other devices and they work great. Hopefully an update will come and fix soon because I'm an avid youtuber. But yeah your not the only one man.
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I was having a issue watching transformers as well, I also rented a movie using my credit and never finished it because of lag.
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try do a speed test see what's the through put you get on your device. Also, in the wifi setting, see at what speed you are connecting to your wifi router.

Speed test is 27mbps and my WiFi settings speed is 54mbps. I don't see a problem?
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feelinfroggy23 said:
Speed test is 27mbps and my WiFi settings speed is 54mbps. I don't see a problem?
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yea, doesn't seem like any problem with your connection. Did you try streaming via other apps such as hulu or only lags in youtube?
Some thing you can try:
1. wipe youtube memory and try it again. You can even try uninstall it and download a fresh copy from the market. If still lags, try #2
2. install the flash apk and try streaming youtube via another browser such as Dolphin HD and see how it works out.

what would you suggest I use for a speed test?

using speed test.net app my speeds are
1659 kbps DL
and
4592 kbps UL
seems like i might have a router problem if that's all i'm getting on the DL
my hardwired LAN gets 24 Mbps

Rugged96 said:
using speed test.net app my speeds are
1659 kbps DL
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4592 kbps UL
seems like i might have a router problem if that's all i'm getting on the DL
my hardwired LAN gets 24 Mbps
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If that's the speed you are getting through a router then there is a problem, perhaps router related.
Go to wifi setting on N7, tap on your current wifi connection, it should tell you the speed you are connected. Ideally it should be 54mbps or higher depend on your setup, but based on your numbers it seems it's connected at much lower speed, below 15mbps I'd guess. My 3g dl speed is even higher than that.
use your phone or another wifi device to do a speed test again, if similar low number then check your router's wifi configuraiton or change a router.

Last night I was on Netflix watching Weeds and the only time there were any hiccups was at the beginning of the episode when Netflix was adjusting the quality to my internet connection. By the end of the theme song there was no noticeable stutters and I believe it had upgraded to HD 720p. So Netflix seems to not be a problem.
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silvscorp said:
If that's the speed you are getting through a router then there is a problem, perhaps router related.
Go to wifi setting on N7, tap on your current wifi connection, it should tell you the speed you are connected. Ideally it should be 54mbps or higher depend on your setup, but based on your numbers it seems it's connected at much lower speed, below 15mbps I'd guess. My 3g dl speed is even higher than that.
use your phone or another wifi device to do a speed test again, if similar low number then check your router's wifi configuraiton or change a router.
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oddly enough it says my link speed is 65Mbps....checking my other phones.

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oddly enough it says my link speed is 65Mbps....checking my other phones.
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silvscorp said:
If that's the speed you are getting through a router then there is a problem, perhaps router related.
Go to wifi setting on N7, tap on your current wifi connection, it should tell you the speed you are connected. Ideally it should be 54mbps or higher depend on your setup, but based on your numbers it seems it's connected at much lower speed, below 15mbps I'd guess. My 3g dl speed is even higher than that.
use your phone or another wifi device to do a speed test again, if similar low number then check your router's wifi configuraiton or change a router.
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My Cell phone HTC One S is even worse on wifi....352 kbps DL speeds.
I have a pretty new router. this doesn't make sense to me.

I just noticed the cap-out link speed of 65Mbps too. The manual says that the N7 is 802.11b/g/n capabile, so I figured I should see at least 150Mbps (if not 300Mbps like my laptop).
Anyone else noticing this low cap-out? Is this a software issue of the N7 or a hardware issue that I should have my unit exchanged for?

Rugged96 said:
My Cell phone HTC One S is even worse on wifi....352 kbps DL speeds.
I have a pretty new router. this doesn't make sense to me.
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Something is definitely wrong with your wifi router.
Revelant said:
I just noticed the cap-out link speed of 65Mbps too. The manual says that the N7 is 802.11b/g/n capabile, so I figured I should see at least 150Mbps (if not 300Mbps like my laptop).
Anyone else noticing this low cap-out? Is this a software issue of the N7 or a hardware issue that I should have my unit exchanged for?
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Normal G router will have max of 54mbps so looks like you have a N router since you are connected at 65Mbps. Some wireless N router can only output 150mbps and some will do 300mbps. Most of modern mobile device's wifi N adapter is only rated up to 150mbps however. 65mpbs is really on the low side for N network but still sufficient unless you wish to do a lot streaming withing your own network. Keep in mind that, if you have both G and N wireless device connected to your router at the same time, the link speed will be reduced depend on your router's configuration.

silvscorp said:
Normal G router will have max of 54mbps so looks like you have a N router since you are connected at 65Mbps. Some wireless N router can only output 150mbps and some will do 300mbps. Most of modern mobile device's wifi N adapter is only rated up to 150mbps however. 65mpbs is really on the low side for N network but still sufficient unless you wish to do a lot streaming withing your own network. Keep in mind that, if you have both G and N wireless device connected to your router at the same time, the link speed will be reduced depend on your router's configuration.
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I have verified that I can connect to the router\access points in my place at speeds between 242-300Mbps no problem. I have no G devices connected. It appears that the N7 is capping out a 65Mbps.
My question was whether anyone else (other than Rugged96 and myself) is seeing this in their WiFi connection info?

Revelant said:
I have verified that I can connect to the router\access points in my place at speeds between 242-300Mbps no problem. I have no G devices connected. It appears that the N7 is capping out a 65Mbps.
My question was whether anyone else (other than Rugged96 and myself) is seeing this in their WiFi connection info?
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I guess N7 will have a max of 65mbps just like most of the phones out today mainly due to the single antenna. To get higher N speed you need multiple antennas (MIMO)

I won't be able to deconstruct my router until later tonight. I am working from home and need to stay focused....

silvscorp said:
I guess N7 will have a max of 65mbps just like most of the phones out today mainly due to the single antenna. To get higher N speed you need multiple antennas (MIMO)
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So it is a limitation of the physical hardware...That is good to know. I was worried that something was wrong with my tablet.
Thanks!

Man that is BS!!!! Your telling Me I can't watch an HD movie on YouTube because the tablet went let me??? Why do they even have the option to go HD then? My internet pushes out 35mbps. That should be more then enough to run HD.
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No problems here. Watched transformers Friday night with no problem. Sunday my wife used the timewarner app to watch NASCAR. I have even used the watch ESPN with no problems tethering from HOX. Not saying its not your N7 but it sounds like a problem with your network. Unplug cable modem for a min or do a reset through the GUI. Maybe reset the router while at it.
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[Q] G2 WiFi speeds N+AC

Does anyone notice there's a big bug with WiFi on the G2?
I have 2 WiFi ac routers, one at home and one at the Office, an Asus RT-ac66U and a Linksys ea6700. Both capable of 1750mbps max speeds.
Internet speeds are 120/6 and 200/20.
Scenario is exactly the same for both routers;
When fresh reboot the router, G2 connects at a speed of 433Mbps.
Speedtests show results of 119/6 at home and 190/20 at the office.
Great you would say!
But here goes. Once WiFi get disconnected and reconnected, speeds go down to ~40mbps. No matter what I do!
These are N speeds, not AC
When looking at connection settings it still shows a link of 433mbps
Tested dozens of times, on both routers, so it has to be an issue with the G2.
Anyone else noticed the same??
DAMN, should have been in Q&A, mods plz move

I'm not an expert on wi-fi, but have stumbled through setting up several routers around the house. But I do not have an ac router.
Is the home router in mixed mode? Ignoring a/b/c for a moment and focusing on g and n (and implying ac), I have two wireless routers in the house. One runs N only (but both 2.4 ghz and 5 ghz) and the other runs G only. Now, my N router is capable of running in mixed mode (to handle both N and G) BUT in mixed mode, my max speed when connected in N is lower than it would be if I ran in dedicated N mode.
Most of my devices now are at least N (2.4 or 5) but I have an older printer and wii that only do G. But as mentioned above, rather than run my best router in mixed mode, I run 2 separate routers, one in N only and one in G only.
Maybe something similar might help with your ac speeds?

Really appreciate your input!
But I already tried settings like AC only etc. Doesn't make any difference.
Once connected for the second time and up to the router no more AC speeds...
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Is there a way to test LAN speeds on Android? I have the same Asus router but my wan speeds are so pitiful that I wouldn't be able to tell if the phone was dropping to N speeds. If I could test speeds to my desktop across the local network I might be able to test what you are experiencing.
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Is there a way to check on the phone, which band it's connecting to? I haven't found anything.
I have the same router and my issue is on reconnect. I leave my wifi on all the time. When I get home, it connects automatically the moment I pull up to the house. The problem is, the speed is severely crippled. Range is awesome, speed is bad. I have to cycle the wifi and reconnect. Once done, no more problems.
One thing I should note, I was having the same issue occasionally on my Droid RAZR after getting the ASUS. Does anyone know if they use the same wifi hardware? Maybe it's an issue with the router itself?

jasonsf said:
Is there a way to test LAN speeds on Android? I have the same Asus router but my wan speeds are so pitiful that I wouldn't be able to tell if the phone was dropping to N speeds. If I could test speeds to my desktop across the local network I might be able to test what you are experiencing.
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crashN2u said:
Is there a way to check on the phone, which band it's connecting to? I haven't found anything.
I have the same router and my issue is on reconnect. I leave my wifi on all the time. When I get home, it connects automatically the moment I pull up to the house. The problem is, the speed is severely crippled. Range is awesome, speed is bad. I have to cycle the wifi and reconnect. Once done, no more problems.
One thing I should note, I was having the same issue occasionally on my Droid RAZR after getting the ASUS. Does anyone know if they use the same wifi hardware? Maybe it's an issue with the router itself?
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@jasonff
Don't know about an app to test lan speeds unfortunately.
Think a google search would come up with lots of options.
@crashN2u
I leave my wifi on too all the time for now, it keeps it at full speed then.
There's no way to check which band you are connected to.
Router doesn't have an option to choose AC Only, only N +AC
And in the mean time I have tested it with 4 AC routers, Asus RT-AC66U, Netgear R6250, Linksys EA6700, D-Link 868L.
With all routers exactly the same conclusion. First time everything is great. Excellent speeds. If you never turn off WiFi it remains at high speed.
But once you turn off WiFi on the Phone and turn it back on it immediately drops to ~36-40mbps max (N Speeds).
This remains until I rebooted each router and after that full speeds again.
It must be something in drivers LG used.
There's the solution to for, I'm sure of it by now.

Well, I can see I won't be much help -- especially since the same result on 4 routers!
I am not sure if the following app supports AC, but a very helpful and free app I use is called "Wifi Analyzer". I can't post links but that is the exact name (author = farproc).
It has many useful tools/functions that you may find helpful, switchable between 2.4 and 5.0 ghz, channel scanner, etc.
Does your 2.4 ghz N and 5.0 ghz N/AC have different SSID's? From what I read, AC is 5 ghz only and N can be either 2.4 ghz or 5.0 ghz. I wonder if you are dropping from 5.0 AC to 2.4 N because the 2.4 N is being detected as "stronger signal" than the 5.0 AC at reconnect time?
I named my 2.4 ghz N SSID as "Blah" and 5.0 ghz N SSID as "Blah_5ghz" just so I know what frequency I'm on at a glance (using a widget that shows the SSID) but many routers by default will have both SSID's the same, making it less obvious what band you are connected to. I also use an app called "WIFI Prioritizer" (author Robert Botha), which will allow me to connect or re-connect in the SSID order I specify: i.e. when I get home I will connect to SSID "Blah" (2.4 ghz N because it has the longest range). Every 5 mins (you can specify), it checks to see if my SSID "Blah_5Ghz" is in range and will switch to it if it is (you can also set signal strength connect and disconnect thresholds).
Anyways, I probably can't help further but am following this thread with interest. Good luck!

Klotar said:
Well, I can see I won't be much help -- especially since the same result on 4 routers!
I am not sure if the following app supports AC, but a very helpful and free app I use is called "Wifi Analyzer". I can't post links but that is the exact name (author = farproc).
It has many useful tools/functions that you may find helpful, switchable between 2.4 and 5.0 ghz, channel scanner, etc.
Does your 2.4 ghz N and 5.0 ghz N/AC have different SSID's? From what I read, AC is 5 ghz only and N can be either 2.4 ghz or 5.0 ghz. I wonder if you are dropping from 5.0 AC to 2.4 N because the 2.4 N is being detected as "stronger signal" than the 5.0 AC at reconnect time?
I named my 2.4 ghz N SSID as "Blah" and 5.0 ghz N SSID as "Blah_5ghz" just so I know what frequency I'm on at a glance (using a widget that shows the SSID) but many routers by default will have both SSID's the same, making it less obvious what band you are connected to. I also use an app called "WIFI Prioritizer" (author Robert Botha), which will allow me to connect or re-connect in the SSID order I specify: i.e. when I get home I will connect to SSID "Blah" (2.4 ghz N because it has the longest range). Every 5 mins (you can specify), it checks to see if my SSID "Blah_5Ghz" is in range and will switch to it if it is (you can also set signal strength connect and disconnect thresholds).
Anyways, I probably can't help further but am following this thread with interest. Good luck!
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My Phone is packed with tools like Wifi Analyser, InSISDer etc etc atm
I always separate 2.4 and 5ghz networks to be able to see exactly what's going on but thanks for the heads up :good:
From further investigation and thinking, and with your suggestion about stronger signals;
Thing is, AC routers are more or less all simultanious routers.
That combines 2.4 and 5ghz signals for higher transfer speeds.
I think in there lies the problem when drivers are not 100%.
In theory 2.4 signals are stronger then 5ghz signals and have wider range.
But in testing I made sure that I was in the same room and no more than 2 meters away from the router.
when testing it showed equal signal strength up to -20 so really strong signals.
Therefore I concluded that N on 2.4 whas equally strong as 5ghz and then again I isolated 5ghz SSID so that's not it unfortunately.

I promised to stay away but I can't resist!
Have you tried some of the more generic troubleshooting tips (on the home network), such as trying with no security or lesser security (WEP) to see if it still reconnects at the lower (N) speeds? I realize that usually that test is of course for a more basic issue than yours but maybe the G2 has trouble handling security overhead.
Some devices and routers just don't like each other (as many know), but 4 different routers...?! Gotta be the G2 side, as you've surmised. Wish I knew someone with an ac router so I could test myself. I'm debating on getting an ac router but you've got me spooked! (kidding/teasing)

Well haven't tried lower or no security.
When I have the chance (aka the wife is away and not *****ing about wifi not available ) I'll sure try that.
But I don't think that WEP will be an option because AC requires AES protection if I'm not mistaken.
But really do not be afraid to get yourself an AC router hehe.
No honestly, I've tested 4 routers with:
AC Capable:
HTC One. Goes all the way to max isp speeds. All the time, no issues
LG G2.
Not AC Capable.
IPhone 5. Max speed at 5ghz (constantly tested) is ~90-100mpbs.
HTC One X. Max speed at 5ghz (constantly tested) is ~70-90mpbs.
So even if your hardware maybe not be capable of AC speeds you still get excellent connections
Oh and for the record.
Here's my personal listing of the hardware I've tested. From best to well not so good.
1. Netgear R6250.
Excellent constant speeds. No drops whatsoever with around 6 devices connected. Excellent range!
2. Asus RT-AC66U
Shame Asus introduced a new wifi driver some time ago which doesn't perform that well. Constant speed drops.
They know about it but thusfar no solution.
When you get this one, stay on old firmware for now!
3. D-link 868L
Real looker this one. Can be put in plain sight in the room like a picture frame :silly:
Great constant speeds, but some drops here and there.
Excellent range.
4. Linksys EA6700
Linksys is sold to Belkin by Cisco.
Up to now I have never seen anything good coming from Belkin!
What a piece of crap.
With a really thin wall between router and phones coverage went down more dan half. Hell even when distance less than 2 meters away coverage was about -45.
Do not get this crap!

I wonder... the wireless N spec (not sure if also AC) calls for devices and routers to have a 'low power mode', which may or may not be enabled in routers and/or phones (e.g. GS3) by default. According to some article I read, newer routers may go into a power saving mode if it detects low traffic and supposedly ramp up when the traffic increases.
Possibly it doesn't ramp up fast enough when a new device connects and the device mistakes it for not having the highest speed (AC) capability. Might explain fast speeds after router bootup but not later. If there is any truth to that (no clue here), it might speed itself up either by testing with a larger file or seeing if the "2nd connect" condition changes while say, streaming videos from the PC to the Xbox or watching Netflix on the main TV. Certainly, either would be considered high traffic and if there is no change to the 2nd connect, well -- there goes that idea.
Is there a wifi power saving mode on the G2 like there is on the GS3? (i.e. dialing *#0011# to turn it off).

Klotar said:
I wonder... the wireless N spec (not sure if also AC) calls for devices and routers to have a 'low power mode', which may or may not be enabled in routers and/or phones (e.g. GS3) by default. According to some article I read, newer routers may go into a power saving mode if it detects low traffic and supposedly ramp up when the traffic increases.
Possibly it doesn't ramp up fast enough when a new device connects and the device mistakes it for not having the highest speed (AC) capability. Might explain fast speeds after router bootup but not later. If there is any truth to that (no clue here), it might speed itself up either by testing with a larger file or seeing if the "2nd connect" condition changes while say, streaming videos from the PC to the Xbox or watching Netflix on the main TV. Certainly, either would be considered high traffic and if there is no change to the 2nd connect, well -- there goes that idea.
Is there a wifi power saving mode on the G2 like there is on the GS3? (i.e. dialing *#0011# to turn it off).
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Good point!
Well, there is a setting in wifi, advanced to minimize use of wifi when screen is off. Sounds like a power save mode to me.
But, just tested it and that makes no difference.
With that setting deactivated on the G2 still at first boot AC speeds and when I switch off and on wifi I still get N speeds max.
And besides that, on the Asus router there's a setting called "Enable WMM APSD". Which stands for "Automatic Power Save Delivery".
I read up on that and the custom firmware guru RMerlin writes about that setting that especially Android devices could suffer from that setting.
So I disabled that a long time ago.
On other routers I couldn't find such setting.
But to iron that setting out I just tested it once more.
First with setting off. Still first connect AC speeds, after turn off/on back to N speed.
Then turned wifi off, enabled the setting and rebooted the router.
But this time to let the supposedly power save kick in I let my Phone idle for 15 minutes so that it surely was in deep sleep.
Then turned screen on, and again AC speeds when first connected.
After that turned wifi off, screen of for 15 minutes. Turned screen on again and once more N speed.
And link speed is always shown as 433mbps btw, which is correct.
There's just some bug in driver code by LG which doesn't work correctly.
I'm more and more convinced of that.
For now I just keep wifi on all the time so that I always get full speeds.
Batt is capable enough so no problem there

LittleH79 said:
Good point!
Well, there is a setting in wifi, advanced to minimize use of wifi when screen is off. Sounds like a power save mode to me.
But, just tested it and that makes no difference.
With that setting deactivated on the G2 still at first boot AC speeds and when I switch off and on wifi I still get N speeds max.
And besides that, on the Asus router there's a setting called "Enable WMM APSD". Which stands for "Automatic Power Save Delivery".
I read up on that and the custom firmware guru RMerlin writes about that setting that especially Android devices could suffer from that setting.
So I disabled that a long time ago.
On other routers I couldn't find such setting.
But to iron that setting out I just tested it once more.
First with setting off. Still first connect AC speeds, after turn off/on back to N speed.
Then turned wifi off, enabled the setting and rebooted the router.
But this time to let the supposedly power save kick in I let my Phone idle for 15 minutes so that it surely was in deep sleep.
Then turned screen on, and again AC speeds when first connected.
After that turned wifi off, screen of for 15 minutes. Turned screen on again and once more N speed.
And link speed is always shown as 433mbps btw, which is correct.
There's just some bug in driver code by LG which doesn't work correctly.
I'm more and more convinced of that.
For now I just keep wifi on all the time so that I always get full speeds.
Batt is capable enough so no problem there
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I found a tool to test local network speed. It uses two android devices for a p2p test or you can install a server program on your PC. I'll do some testing and see if I can reproduce what you are seeing. Here's the link: http://pzoleeblogen.wordpress.com/2013/08/12/local-network-speed-test-for-android/ and the market link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pzolee.android.localwifispeedtester&hl=en
And to be sure I understand, you boot your phone with wifi on, AC speeds. Turn off wifi on phone and turn it back on, N speeds. Reboot phone with wifi on, back to AC speeds. Correct?

jasonsf said:
I found a tool to test local network speed. It uses two android devices for a p2p test or you can install a server program on your PC. I'll do some testing and see if I can reproduce what you are seeing. Here's the link: http://pzoleeblogen.wordpress.com/2013/08/12/local-network-speed-test-for-android/ and the market link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pzolee.android.localwifispeedtester&hl=en
And to be sure I understand, you boot your phone with wifi on, AC speeds. Turn off wifi on phone and turn it back on, N speeds. Reboot phone with wifi on, back to AC speeds. Correct?
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Thanks for the app!
Gonna test this for sure since I also have a HTC One lying around which is also AC capable
Not 100% corect.
I can do with phone what I want until wifi gets turned off.
Then a reboot of the router is required to get AC speed back.
No need to reboot the phone.
Quite busy atm so don't have enough time I would like to be testing

LittleH79 said:
Thanks for the app!
Gonna test this for sure since I also have a HTC One lying around which is also AC capable
Not 100% corect.
I can do with phone what I want until wifi gets turned off.
Then a reboot of the router is required to get AC speed back.
No need to reboot the phone.
Quite busy atm so don't have enough time I would like to be testing
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Between my wife on her laptop, my son on his Chromebook and my daughter streaming Netflix on our Roku, I hardly ever have a chance to reboot the router without someone complaining
Since I haven't rebooted my router in days, from what you are saying I shouldn't see anything above N speeds until I reboot the router. Do you actually have to turn off wifi on the phone to have it drop from AC to N or is it enough to leave the range of the wifi and then come back? And does if turning it off is required, do I have to be connected to the router at the time I turn phone wifi off?
I'll try testing this weekend.

jasonsf said:
Between my wife on her laptop, my son on his Chromebook and my daughter streaming Netflix on our Roku, I hardly ever have a chance to reboot the router without someone complaining
Since I haven't rebooted my router in days, from what you are saying I shouldn't see anything above N speeds until I reboot the router. Do you actually have to turn off wifi on the phone to have it drop from AC to N or is it enough to leave the range of the wifi and then come back? And does if turning it off is required, do I have to be connected to the router at the time I turn phone wifi off?
I'll try testing this weekend.
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Going out of range isn't a problem as long as you don't have an app or setting on in wifi, advanced to switch off wifi.
As long as wifi isn't turned off I can go everywhere, in&out of range, other routers connect but speeds remain AC, everywhere on every router.
I can reproduce everytime that when I turn off wifi on the phone and back on from then on I only get ~36-40mbps max.
It's like the phone thinks that's max capable speed altough wifi link speed is again shown as 433mbps.
If I have switched off wifi on the phone and back on, on all 4 AC routers I tested all needed a router reboot to gain full AC speeds again.
Oh and maybe a small tip, I always say to the misses at home that there's a small problem with connection so a quick reboot is required.
Up to now that still works

LittleH79 said:
Going out of range isn't a problem as long as you don't have an app or setting on in wifi, advanced to switch off wifi.
As long as wifi isn't turned off I can go everywhere, in&out of range, other routers connect but speeds remain AC, everywhere on every router.
I can reproduce everytime that when I turn off wifi on the phone and back on from then on I only get ~36-40mbps max.
It's like the phone thinks that's max capable speed altough wifi link speed is again shown as 433mbps.
If I have switched off wifi on the phone and back on, on all 4 AC routers I tested all needed a router reboot to gain full AC speeds again.
Oh and maybe a small tip, I always say to the misses at home that there's a small problem with connection so a quick reboot is required.
Up to now that still works
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I just did a few tests from my phone to my pc with 100MB data sets. I got between 200 and 260 Mbit/s down both before and after toggling my phone's wifi off and on. Didn't seem to make a difference. I got about 6Mbit up.
So, I didn't seem to experience the problem you have. But try repeating what I've done with this local network app. Maybe you won't have the issue with it that you are seeing on your WAN connection.

jasonsf said:
I just did a few tests from my phone to my pc with 100MB data sets. I got between 200 and 260 Mbit/s down both before and after toggling my phone's wifi off and on. Didn't seem to make a difference. I got about 6Mbit up.
So, I didn't seem to experience the problem you have. But try repeating what I've done with this local network app. Maybe you won't have the issue with it that you are seeing on your WAN connection.
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What router or AP do you use?
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shaglord said:
What router or AP do you use?
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Asus RT-AC66U

jasonsf said:
Asus RT-AC66U
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Wow and do you really see real transfer rates of 25-30 MB/s to your G2?
I'm using a Qualcomm Atheros based AC-router and my G2 (running latest CM11) hardly goes over 10 Mbit ~ 1,5 MB/s. Weak I know. (Confirmed 433 Mbit link using a wifi app.)
Maybe I need a broadcom-router like yours to see some real AC-speeds.
Thanks for the reply. Take care
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Wifi Speed test slower on phone. HELP

So I juse got Comcast 50mbps. Did speed test on Laptop and showing 57mbps max, did speed test on phone, showing only 34mbps. I even changed the channel on the router to the strongest signal and changed my phone signal to static in the adv wifi connection settings. Why is my phone not getting 50mbps also? Help

Just a guess here: power save...
A laptop can send more power to it's internal antenna to get better reception while the phone has a limit i suppose.
Have you tried your test with the phone being very close to the router?
Which software are you using to measure the speed?

vorta251 said:
Just a guess here: power save...
A laptop can send more power to it's internal antenna to get better reception while the phone has a limit i suppose.
Have you tried your test with the phone being very close to the router?
Which software are you using to measure the speed?
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I checked the power save option and I stand right in front of the router. At first my phone showed about 25 mbps and when I switch to static it went up a little. I'm using speedtest.net. Same speed test as my laptop. I would figure if my router is pushing out 57 mbps I should beable to get close to 50mbps on my phone. I can't get above 40 at all.