Does anyone notice there's a big bug with WiFi on the G2?
I have 2 WiFi ac routers, one at home and one at the Office, an Asus RT-ac66U and a Linksys ea6700. Both capable of 1750mbps max speeds.
Internet speeds are 120/6 and 200/20.
Scenario is exactly the same for both routers;
When fresh reboot the router, G2 connects at a speed of 433Mbps.
Speedtests show results of 119/6 at home and 190/20 at the office.
Great you would say!
But here goes. Once WiFi get disconnected and reconnected, speeds go down to ~40mbps. No matter what I do!
These are N speeds, not AC
When looking at connection settings it still shows a link of 433mbps
Tested dozens of times, on both routers, so it has to be an issue with the G2.
Anyone else noticed the same??
DAMN, should have been in Q&A, mods plz move
I'm not an expert on wi-fi, but have stumbled through setting up several routers around the house. But I do not have an ac router.
Is the home router in mixed mode? Ignoring a/b/c for a moment and focusing on g and n (and implying ac), I have two wireless routers in the house. One runs N only (but both 2.4 ghz and 5 ghz) and the other runs G only. Now, my N router is capable of running in mixed mode (to handle both N and G) BUT in mixed mode, my max speed when connected in N is lower than it would be if I ran in dedicated N mode.
Most of my devices now are at least N (2.4 or 5) but I have an older printer and wii that only do G. But as mentioned above, rather than run my best router in mixed mode, I run 2 separate routers, one in N only and one in G only.
Maybe something similar might help with your ac speeds?
Really appreciate your input!
But I already tried settings like AC only etc. Doesn't make any difference.
Once connected for the second time and up to the router no more AC speeds...
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Is there a way to test LAN speeds on Android? I have the same Asus router but my wan speeds are so pitiful that I wouldn't be able to tell if the phone was dropping to N speeds. If I could test speeds to my desktop across the local network I might be able to test what you are experiencing.
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Is there a way to check on the phone, which band it's connecting to? I haven't found anything.
I have the same router and my issue is on reconnect. I leave my wifi on all the time. When I get home, it connects automatically the moment I pull up to the house. The problem is, the speed is severely crippled. Range is awesome, speed is bad. I have to cycle the wifi and reconnect. Once done, no more problems.
One thing I should note, I was having the same issue occasionally on my Droid RAZR after getting the ASUS. Does anyone know if they use the same wifi hardware? Maybe it's an issue with the router itself?
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Is there a way to test LAN speeds on Android? I have the same Asus router but my wan speeds are so pitiful that I wouldn't be able to tell if the phone was dropping to N speeds. If I could test speeds to my desktop across the local network I might be able to test what you are experiencing.
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Is there a way to check on the phone, which band it's connecting to? I haven't found anything.
I have the same router and my issue is on reconnect. I leave my wifi on all the time. When I get home, it connects automatically the moment I pull up to the house. The problem is, the speed is severely crippled. Range is awesome, speed is bad. I have to cycle the wifi and reconnect. Once done, no more problems.
One thing I should note, I was having the same issue occasionally on my Droid RAZR after getting the ASUS. Does anyone know if they use the same wifi hardware? Maybe it's an issue with the router itself?
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Don't know about an app to test lan speeds unfortunately.
Think a google search would come up with lots of options.
@crashN2u
I leave my wifi on too all the time for now, it keeps it at full speed then.
There's no way to check which band you are connected to.
Router doesn't have an option to choose AC Only, only N +AC
And in the mean time I have tested it with 4 AC routers, Asus RT-AC66U, Netgear R6250, Linksys EA6700, D-Link 868L.
With all routers exactly the same conclusion. First time everything is great. Excellent speeds. If you never turn off WiFi it remains at high speed.
But once you turn off WiFi on the Phone and turn it back on it immediately drops to ~36-40mbps max (N Speeds).
This remains until I rebooted each router and after that full speeds again.
It must be something in drivers LG used.
There's the solution to for, I'm sure of it by now.
Well, I can see I won't be much help -- especially since the same result on 4 routers!
I am not sure if the following app supports AC, but a very helpful and free app I use is called "Wifi Analyzer". I can't post links but that is the exact name (author = farproc).
It has many useful tools/functions that you may find helpful, switchable between 2.4 and 5.0 ghz, channel scanner, etc.
Does your 2.4 ghz N and 5.0 ghz N/AC have different SSID's? From what I read, AC is 5 ghz only and N can be either 2.4 ghz or 5.0 ghz. I wonder if you are dropping from 5.0 AC to 2.4 N because the 2.4 N is being detected as "stronger signal" than the 5.0 AC at reconnect time?
I named my 2.4 ghz N SSID as "Blah" and 5.0 ghz N SSID as "Blah_5ghz" just so I know what frequency I'm on at a glance (using a widget that shows the SSID) but many routers by default will have both SSID's the same, making it less obvious what band you are connected to. I also use an app called "WIFI Prioritizer" (author Robert Botha), which will allow me to connect or re-connect in the SSID order I specify: i.e. when I get home I will connect to SSID "Blah" (2.4 ghz N because it has the longest range). Every 5 mins (you can specify), it checks to see if my SSID "Blah_5Ghz" is in range and will switch to it if it is (you can also set signal strength connect and disconnect thresholds).
Anyways, I probably can't help further but am following this thread with interest. Good luck!
Klotar said:
Well, I can see I won't be much help -- especially since the same result on 4 routers!
I am not sure if the following app supports AC, but a very helpful and free app I use is called "Wifi Analyzer". I can't post links but that is the exact name (author = farproc).
It has many useful tools/functions that you may find helpful, switchable between 2.4 and 5.0 ghz, channel scanner, etc.
Does your 2.4 ghz N and 5.0 ghz N/AC have different SSID's? From what I read, AC is 5 ghz only and N can be either 2.4 ghz or 5.0 ghz. I wonder if you are dropping from 5.0 AC to 2.4 N because the 2.4 N is being detected as "stronger signal" than the 5.0 AC at reconnect time?
I named my 2.4 ghz N SSID as "Blah" and 5.0 ghz N SSID as "Blah_5ghz" just so I know what frequency I'm on at a glance (using a widget that shows the SSID) but many routers by default will have both SSID's the same, making it less obvious what band you are connected to. I also use an app called "WIFI Prioritizer" (author Robert Botha), which will allow me to connect or re-connect in the SSID order I specify: i.e. when I get home I will connect to SSID "Blah" (2.4 ghz N because it has the longest range). Every 5 mins (you can specify), it checks to see if my SSID "Blah_5Ghz" is in range and will switch to it if it is (you can also set signal strength connect and disconnect thresholds).
Anyways, I probably can't help further but am following this thread with interest. Good luck!
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My Phone is packed with tools like Wifi Analyser, InSISDer etc etc atm
I always separate 2.4 and 5ghz networks to be able to see exactly what's going on but thanks for the heads up :good:
From further investigation and thinking, and with your suggestion about stronger signals;
Thing is, AC routers are more or less all simultanious routers.
That combines 2.4 and 5ghz signals for higher transfer speeds.
I think in there lies the problem when drivers are not 100%.
In theory 2.4 signals are stronger then 5ghz signals and have wider range.
But in testing I made sure that I was in the same room and no more than 2 meters away from the router.
when testing it showed equal signal strength up to -20 so really strong signals.
Therefore I concluded that N on 2.4 whas equally strong as 5ghz and then again I isolated 5ghz SSID so that's not it unfortunately.
I promised to stay away but I can't resist!
Have you tried some of the more generic troubleshooting tips (on the home network), such as trying with no security or lesser security (WEP) to see if it still reconnects at the lower (N) speeds? I realize that usually that test is of course for a more basic issue than yours but maybe the G2 has trouble handling security overhead.
Some devices and routers just don't like each other (as many know), but 4 different routers...?! Gotta be the G2 side, as you've surmised. Wish I knew someone with an ac router so I could test myself. I'm debating on getting an ac router but you've got me spooked! (kidding/teasing)
Well haven't tried lower or no security.
When I have the chance (aka the wife is away and not *****ing about wifi not available ) I'll sure try that.
But I don't think that WEP will be an option because AC requires AES protection if I'm not mistaken.
But really do not be afraid to get yourself an AC router hehe.
No honestly, I've tested 4 routers with:
AC Capable:
HTC One. Goes all the way to max isp speeds. All the time, no issues
LG G2.
Not AC Capable.
IPhone 5. Max speed at 5ghz (constantly tested) is ~90-100mpbs.
HTC One X. Max speed at 5ghz (constantly tested) is ~70-90mpbs.
So even if your hardware maybe not be capable of AC speeds you still get excellent connections
Oh and for the record.
Here's my personal listing of the hardware I've tested. From best to well not so good.
1. Netgear R6250.
Excellent constant speeds. No drops whatsoever with around 6 devices connected. Excellent range!
2. Asus RT-AC66U
Shame Asus introduced a new wifi driver some time ago which doesn't perform that well. Constant speed drops.
They know about it but thusfar no solution.
When you get this one, stay on old firmware for now!
3. D-link 868L
Real looker this one. Can be put in plain sight in the room like a picture frame :silly:
Great constant speeds, but some drops here and there.
Excellent range.
4. Linksys EA6700
Linksys is sold to Belkin by Cisco.
Up to now I have never seen anything good coming from Belkin!
What a piece of crap.
With a really thin wall between router and phones coverage went down more dan half. Hell even when distance less than 2 meters away coverage was about -45.
Do not get this crap!
I wonder... the wireless N spec (not sure if also AC) calls for devices and routers to have a 'low power mode', which may or may not be enabled in routers and/or phones (e.g. GS3) by default. According to some article I read, newer routers may go into a power saving mode if it detects low traffic and supposedly ramp up when the traffic increases.
Possibly it doesn't ramp up fast enough when a new device connects and the device mistakes it for not having the highest speed (AC) capability. Might explain fast speeds after router bootup but not later. If there is any truth to that (no clue here), it might speed itself up either by testing with a larger file or seeing if the "2nd connect" condition changes while say, streaming videos from the PC to the Xbox or watching Netflix on the main TV. Certainly, either would be considered high traffic and if there is no change to the 2nd connect, well -- there goes that idea.
Is there a wifi power saving mode on the G2 like there is on the GS3? (i.e. dialing *#0011# to turn it off).
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I wonder... the wireless N spec (not sure if also AC) calls for devices and routers to have a 'low power mode', which may or may not be enabled in routers and/or phones (e.g. GS3) by default. According to some article I read, newer routers may go into a power saving mode if it detects low traffic and supposedly ramp up when the traffic increases.
Possibly it doesn't ramp up fast enough when a new device connects and the device mistakes it for not having the highest speed (AC) capability. Might explain fast speeds after router bootup but not later. If there is any truth to that (no clue here), it might speed itself up either by testing with a larger file or seeing if the "2nd connect" condition changes while say, streaming videos from the PC to the Xbox or watching Netflix on the main TV. Certainly, either would be considered high traffic and if there is no change to the 2nd connect, well -- there goes that idea.
Is there a wifi power saving mode on the G2 like there is on the GS3? (i.e. dialing *#0011# to turn it off).
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Good point!
Well, there is a setting in wifi, advanced to minimize use of wifi when screen is off. Sounds like a power save mode to me.
But, just tested it and that makes no difference.
With that setting deactivated on the G2 still at first boot AC speeds and when I switch off and on wifi I still get N speeds max.
And besides that, on the Asus router there's a setting called "Enable WMM APSD". Which stands for "Automatic Power Save Delivery".
I read up on that and the custom firmware guru RMerlin writes about that setting that especially Android devices could suffer from that setting.
So I disabled that a long time ago.
On other routers I couldn't find such setting.
But to iron that setting out I just tested it once more.
First with setting off. Still first connect AC speeds, after turn off/on back to N speed.
Then turned wifi off, enabled the setting and rebooted the router.
But this time to let the supposedly power save kick in I let my Phone idle for 15 minutes so that it surely was in deep sleep.
Then turned screen on, and again AC speeds when first connected.
After that turned wifi off, screen of for 15 minutes. Turned screen on again and once more N speed.
And link speed is always shown as 433mbps btw, which is correct.
There's just some bug in driver code by LG which doesn't work correctly.
I'm more and more convinced of that.
For now I just keep wifi on all the time so that I always get full speeds.
Batt is capable enough so no problem there
LittleH79 said:
Good point!
Well, there is a setting in wifi, advanced to minimize use of wifi when screen is off. Sounds like a power save mode to me.
But, just tested it and that makes no difference.
With that setting deactivated on the G2 still at first boot AC speeds and when I switch off and on wifi I still get N speeds max.
And besides that, on the Asus router there's a setting called "Enable WMM APSD". Which stands for "Automatic Power Save Delivery".
I read up on that and the custom firmware guru RMerlin writes about that setting that especially Android devices could suffer from that setting.
So I disabled that a long time ago.
On other routers I couldn't find such setting.
But to iron that setting out I just tested it once more.
First with setting off. Still first connect AC speeds, after turn off/on back to N speed.
Then turned wifi off, enabled the setting and rebooted the router.
But this time to let the supposedly power save kick in I let my Phone idle for 15 minutes so that it surely was in deep sleep.
Then turned screen on, and again AC speeds when first connected.
After that turned wifi off, screen of for 15 minutes. Turned screen on again and once more N speed.
And link speed is always shown as 433mbps btw, which is correct.
There's just some bug in driver code by LG which doesn't work correctly.
I'm more and more convinced of that.
For now I just keep wifi on all the time so that I always get full speeds.
Batt is capable enough so no problem there
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I found a tool to test local network speed. It uses two android devices for a p2p test or you can install a server program on your PC. I'll do some testing and see if I can reproduce what you are seeing. Here's the link: http://pzoleeblogen.wordpress.com/2013/08/12/local-network-speed-test-for-android/ and the market link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pzolee.android.localwifispeedtester&hl=en
And to be sure I understand, you boot your phone with wifi on, AC speeds. Turn off wifi on phone and turn it back on, N speeds. Reboot phone with wifi on, back to AC speeds. Correct?
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I found a tool to test local network speed. It uses two android devices for a p2p test or you can install a server program on your PC. I'll do some testing and see if I can reproduce what you are seeing. Here's the link: http://pzoleeblogen.wordpress.com/2013/08/12/local-network-speed-test-for-android/ and the market link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pzolee.android.localwifispeedtester&hl=en
And to be sure I understand, you boot your phone with wifi on, AC speeds. Turn off wifi on phone and turn it back on, N speeds. Reboot phone with wifi on, back to AC speeds. Correct?
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Thanks for the app!
Gonna test this for sure since I also have a HTC One lying around which is also AC capable
Not 100% corect.
I can do with phone what I want until wifi gets turned off.
Then a reboot of the router is required to get AC speed back.
No need to reboot the phone.
Quite busy atm so don't have enough time I would like to be testing
LittleH79 said:
Thanks for the app!
Gonna test this for sure since I also have a HTC One lying around which is also AC capable
Not 100% corect.
I can do with phone what I want until wifi gets turned off.
Then a reboot of the router is required to get AC speed back.
No need to reboot the phone.
Quite busy atm so don't have enough time I would like to be testing
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Between my wife on her laptop, my son on his Chromebook and my daughter streaming Netflix on our Roku, I hardly ever have a chance to reboot the router without someone complaining
Since I haven't rebooted my router in days, from what you are saying I shouldn't see anything above N speeds until I reboot the router. Do you actually have to turn off wifi on the phone to have it drop from AC to N or is it enough to leave the range of the wifi and then come back? And does if turning it off is required, do I have to be connected to the router at the time I turn phone wifi off?
I'll try testing this weekend.
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Between my wife on her laptop, my son on his Chromebook and my daughter streaming Netflix on our Roku, I hardly ever have a chance to reboot the router without someone complaining
Since I haven't rebooted my router in days, from what you are saying I shouldn't see anything above N speeds until I reboot the router. Do you actually have to turn off wifi on the phone to have it drop from AC to N or is it enough to leave the range of the wifi and then come back? And does if turning it off is required, do I have to be connected to the router at the time I turn phone wifi off?
I'll try testing this weekend.
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Going out of range isn't a problem as long as you don't have an app or setting on in wifi, advanced to switch off wifi.
As long as wifi isn't turned off I can go everywhere, in&out of range, other routers connect but speeds remain AC, everywhere on every router.
I can reproduce everytime that when I turn off wifi on the phone and back on from then on I only get ~36-40mbps max.
It's like the phone thinks that's max capable speed altough wifi link speed is again shown as 433mbps.
If I have switched off wifi on the phone and back on, on all 4 AC routers I tested all needed a router reboot to gain full AC speeds again.
Oh and maybe a small tip, I always say to the misses at home that there's a small problem with connection so a quick reboot is required.
Up to now that still works
LittleH79 said:
Going out of range isn't a problem as long as you don't have an app or setting on in wifi, advanced to switch off wifi.
As long as wifi isn't turned off I can go everywhere, in&out of range, other routers connect but speeds remain AC, everywhere on every router.
I can reproduce everytime that when I turn off wifi on the phone and back on from then on I only get ~36-40mbps max.
It's like the phone thinks that's max capable speed altough wifi link speed is again shown as 433mbps.
If I have switched off wifi on the phone and back on, on all 4 AC routers I tested all needed a router reboot to gain full AC speeds again.
Oh and maybe a small tip, I always say to the misses at home that there's a small problem with connection so a quick reboot is required.
Up to now that still works
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I just did a few tests from my phone to my pc with 100MB data sets. I got between 200 and 260 Mbit/s down both before and after toggling my phone's wifi off and on. Didn't seem to make a difference. I got about 6Mbit up.
So, I didn't seem to experience the problem you have. But try repeating what I've done with this local network app. Maybe you won't have the issue with it that you are seeing on your WAN connection.
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I just did a few tests from my phone to my pc with 100MB data sets. I got between 200 and 260 Mbit/s down both before and after toggling my phone's wifi off and on. Didn't seem to make a difference. I got about 6Mbit up.
So, I didn't seem to experience the problem you have. But try repeating what I've done with this local network app. Maybe you won't have the issue with it that you are seeing on your WAN connection.
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What router or AP do you use?
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shaglord said:
What router or AP do you use?
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Asus RT-AC66U
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Asus RT-AC66U
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Wow and do you really see real transfer rates of 25-30 MB/s to your G2?
I'm using a Qualcomm Atheros based AC-router and my G2 (running latest CM11) hardly goes over 10 Mbit ~ 1,5 MB/s. Weak I know. (Confirmed 433 Mbit link using a wifi app.)
Maybe I need a broadcom-router like yours to see some real AC-speeds.
Thanks for the reply. Take care
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I used 2 apps to compare. SpeedTest.net and Xtremelabs Speedtest. I have a 2Mb connection and it test correct on my laptop both wired and wireless but with those 2 apps, my DHD reports ~223Kbits. I run the test several times (around 20 times) and it always shows similar results. Only one run which I did after returning home showed 2Mb. Never saw the same again.
Anyone noticed the same? maybe it's the way those apps measure or is it my phone?
You tested what ? Your phone connected via WiFi to your home internet, or your phone GSM/EDGE/HSPA connection ?
The home internet can be explained by downloading something else through other computers on your network or by lower wifi speed negitiated between your phone and wifi router.
If you measured your mobile connection, it could be that you simply don't have HSPA inside your house and it drops to EDGE or UMTS -> sub-300kbit speeds.
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You tested what ? Your phone connected via WiFi to your home internet, or your phone GSM/EDGE/HSPA connection ?
The home internet can be explained by downloading something else through other computers on your network or by lower wifi speed negitiated between your phone and wifi router.
If you measured your mobile connection, it could be that you simply don't have HSPA inside your house and it drops to EDGE or UMTS -> sub-300kbit speeds.
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thanks,
I already know what you mention.
I test wifi connection. It is supposed to check data transfer rate between my local wifi connection and the Internet. I do the same on my laptop at same location and get 2Mbits.
My mobile connection here is unstable=(sometimes GPRS sometimes 3G) so I won't bother to test from here. I am only concerned about wifi results.
Are you getting those correct?
In case of WiFi, there are many factors which can slow it down. But since you are using the WiFi on your laptop too, we can exclude factors like interference from other WiFi networks or any other factors which could make your connection to your router problematic.
This brings it down to the phone itself. Now the questions is - do you use any kind of WiFi security ? If yes, can you turn it off just for test (yes, i'm asking you to have a unsecured WiFi network for a while). This way you can exclude the possibility that it's the encryption which slows you down. If it will speed up, your problem lies in encryption, and that brings up the question if you have USB debugging enabled or not - you should have, as it fixes the 100% CPU usage bug. If your CPU is used up thanks to this bug, then of course all encryption is slower, which means your data transfer is slower.
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In case of WiFi, there are many factors which can slow it down. But since you are using the WiFi on your laptop too, we can exclude factors like interference from other WiFi networks or any other factors which could make your connection to your router problematic.
This brings it down to the phone itself. Now the questions is - do you use any kind of WiFi security ? If yes, can you turn it off just for test (yes, i'm asking you to have a unsecured WiFi network for a while). This way you can exclude the possibility that it's the encryption which slows you down. If it will speed up, your problem lies in encryption, and that brings up the question if you have USB debugging enabled or not - you should have, as it fixes the 100% CPU usage bug. If your CPU is used up thanks to this bug, then of course all encryption is slower, which means your data transfer is slower.
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Strange, you know what? I connected to USB in order to sync and verify USB debugging (it was on anyway) but after sync, I run the test and it shows above 2mbits but one time it showed 1,2Mbits. The same goes with xtremelabs speedtest.
Now, I can't tell if it's due to the usb connection. I restarted my phone earlier anyway and it still measured slow connection at the time that my laptop was measuring high.
I ran the test so many times that I am 99% sure that the only difference this time was the connection to usb for sync.
I can't exaplain this, I don't know if you can
Then, after a while I try again and it goes down again. I sync but still stays down so that's irrelevant.
I perform the same test on my laptop right after this one and from the same location and it's always high.
I don't know how to explain this
Just got this net gear high performance router. I connected to the 5 ghz band not the 2.4ghz and it acted like it didn't speed up the browsing much if at all. Download speed was around 2.5mbs. Rechecked to make sure I was on the 5ghz and it was. So I rebooted then rechecked the speed and got around 5.5mbs download speed. But after about 4 5 hours of playing around on the browser its like it starts slowing back down again sometimes so bad the page I'm trying to open just stops and the browser closes. Not force closes. But like I hit the home button. Reboot and its OK for a few hours again. I only keep one tab open to by the way just to keep from using any more memory. If I root and try a different kernel dose anyone know that this will go away?
A 5ghz router will not speed up your browsing over a 2.4ghz router, If you're only getting 5megs down anyways. Now if you had a 100meg connection maybe.
It also will have nothing to do with the fact that the browser gets slow over time.
High speed wireless routers are more about sharing content between computers on your wireless network.
but before I got this 5ghz router all I had was a 2.4 and my laptop wouldn't even play a YouTube video without stopping ever 10 seconds. Now with the new one its done buffering before I can smell my fart. It speeds up my internet like Ive never seen.
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but before I got this 5ghz router all I had was a 2.4 and my laptop wouldn't even play a YouTube video without stopping ever 10 seconds. Now with the new one its done buffering before I can smell my fart. It speeds up my internet like Ive never seen.
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Are you connecting to the router on the 5ghz frequency? Most laptops don't even have this capability.
If there was a lot of 2.4ghz interference around it may have had something to do with it.
Think about it, why would a 5meg connection that you were already maxing out at 802.11g (54mb/s) get any faster at a different frequency?
I'm pretty sure its more of a router issue. Try a different channel. Default is usually 7. If you are in a populated area there are probably a lot of others using that channel as well.
Download wifi manager in the market https://market.android.com/details?id=org.kman.WifiManager&feature=search_result
See which channel is the cleanest and use that one. Hope that helps!
Bauxite said:
Are you connecting to the router on the 5ghz frequency? Most laptops don't even have this capability.
If there was a lot of 2.4ghz interference around it may have had something to do with it.
Think about it, why would a 5meg connection that you were already maxing out at 802.11g (54mb/s) get any faster at a different frequency?
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Yes the lap top dose support it. The wife was about to give up on it because it wouldn't do what she wanted it to now its perfectly fine. But I was just wondering why my xoom is slowing down after a while till a reboot. I just did the speed check again on my 2.4 band and it was the same as it used to be around 2.5mbs download speed. Then reconnected to the 5.0 ghz on the dual band wireless router and it jumped up to 6.4 mds download speed on speed test app.
Well I don't know? I was thinking that the 2.4 channel was slower than the 5.0 one but now they are both the same speed. And I was under the impression that 5.0ghz is faster than 2.4ghz but they're not they're just two different channels or frequencies I guess? I've just never delt with one of these fancy wireless routers before just stuck with what was installed by the cable guy. Maybe I can try keeping the cache clean in my browser and see how it dose.
just based on my limited understanding of wireless networking (slash basic physics), the higher frequency has the only benefit if being on a less populated channel. (More traffic means slower soeeds, more intereferemces, missing packets, etc...). I believe that the higher frequecy also degrades faster/ doesn't penetrate walls as well because it carries less energy, but I've never tried it myself. Just see what works best with some trial and error.
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but before I got this 5ghz router all I had was a 2.4 and my laptop wouldn't even play a YouTube video without stopping ever 10 seconds. Now with the new one its done buffering before I can smell my fart. It speeds up my internet like Ive never seen.
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Do you fart everytime you play a video? Maybe your nose is getting used to it so it only seems faster. I would hate to walk into your computer room after you've been inthere watching youtube.
I have the exact same problem, I have the netgear wndr3700, and the xoom does slow down after a while and a reboot fixes it. Ive tried both the 5 and 2.4 ghz and its the same story where it won't finish loading pages. I'm actually exchanging my router tomorrow for the wndr3400 because what I have now is overkill for my needs. What router do you have?
i had the same issues with the Linksys E4200. I was upset because my wife's 1st Gen ipad was blowing me out of the water in browsing speed. Then she had to nerve to ask "so why did you spend $600 on this?". Switched to 2.4 and everything is fine now. Better than fine actually. Now that I saw the 5ghz settings I may try again.
TurboTsi said:
I have the exact same problem, I have the netgear wndr3700, and the xoom does slow down after a while and a reboot fixes it. Ive tried both the 5 and 2.4 ghz and its the same story where it won't finish loading pages. I'm actually exchanging my router tomorrow for the wndr3400 because what I have now is overkill for my needs. What router do you have?
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have you guys tried flashing dd-wrt over the stock firmware on the netgear?
i have the same router and first thing i did when i got the router was flash dd-wrt on it... think of dd-wrt as a custom rom for your router
i'm connected to the 5ghz channel and its been working great for me but i don't surf on my xoom that long as some of you have....
Every time i connect nexus 4 to my home wi-fi. Every other device gets terrible connection speed... Before nexus 4 my Nexus 7 had steady speeds up to 20mbps. With nexus 4 connected speeds go down to 5-3 mbps and even when i disconnect n4 from my home wi-fi router still acts really strange and i have to reboot it. Anybody experienced anything like that?
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Every time i connect nexus 4 to my home wi-fi. Every other device gets terrible connection speed... Before nexus 4 my Nexus 7 had steady speeds up to 20mbps. With nexus 4 connected speeds go down to 5-3 mbps and even when i disconnect n4 from my home wi-fi router still acts really strange and i have to reboot it. Anybody experienced anything like that?
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I have three desktop computers, an iPad, an iPod, a Roku unit, and two smartphones sharing the same wifi signal. My speeds don't seem to vary any regardless of the number of devices sharing it at any given time. I would have to call my service provider if I found myself in your situation.
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I have three desktop computers, an iPad, an iPod, a Roku unit, and two smartphones sharing the same wifi signal. My speeds don't seem to vary any regardless of the number of devices sharing it at any given time. I would have to call my service provider if I found myself in your situation.
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Yep, same.
To the op, I'd say either reboot the router (which you probably have done) and / or see if there's a firmware update for the router.
If no cure, call your internet provider.
Ok.. Forgot to mentioned that n4 also loses wifi connection from time to time.
Seems like im not the only one.. People post similar problems.
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=40065
my nexus has never dropped wifi connection to any router you may have hardware issues..
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Ok.. Forgot to mentioned that n4 also loses wifi connection from time to time.
Seems like im not the only one.. People post similar problems.
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=40065
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I have seen this before. It happens in mixed networks (old B laptop used to crash the WiFi AP when G clients were also connected).
1) Check for a firmware update to your router. This is most likely where your issue is. The router speed should drop and increase as needed, but buggy firmware may only keep in last slowest speed until a reboot.
2) Mixed encryption (WPA & WPA2) is a nightmare Force "WPA2 only with AES only" -or- "WPA only with TKIP only". Some clients may try to use WPA with AES and this was what was crashing my AP at the time.
3) If you still have issues, try using "G&N" only, or even force G only. Some older G clients don't hear N traffic, so they just transmit on top of it.
4) Last resort, look for a used router that can run DD-WRT firmware. Personally, I will never go back to OEM router firmware.
Hope this helps...
i used Wi-Fi Analyzer and it showed 2 really strong signals on the same channel.. one being mine and the other someone's else. i manually changed it from 11 to channel 5 and everything back to normal/// 20mbps just like before!
skyrocket727 said:
i used Wi-Fi Analyzer and it showed 2 really strong signals on the same channel.. one being mine and the other someone's else. i manually changed it from 11 to channel 5 and everything back to normal/// 20mbps just like before!
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Guess your neighbour will be pleased too !:laugh:
Hi every one. I just got my N4 last week and i experiense the exact same thing!!!!
this is realy bad because every time i use the wireless network every body in the house starts complaining because my N4 shuts down all connections here.
It works alright with the main router wich is a thomson. but it fails with the other two routers (that are Belkin - N) that are only access points!
I realy want this fixed because not having internet at home is quite bad!
Hey kids.
I came from the S3 the beginning of November. One of the "new" annoyances I've come across is a notification that the wifi connection Internet speed is too slow. Which is bull. The only way to reconnect after that is to reboot. Sometimes enabling airplane mode does it as well. So my question is twofold. Has anyone else come across this? Has anyone figured out how to turn this stupid setting off?
Thanks in advance.
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I haven't encountered any of these problems. My Wi-Fi signal it's weak at times, but when I have a good connection internet speed is fast
If I helped hit thanks!!
im not saying this will fix your problem, but i was getting these messages as well. I switched my wifi power saving off via service menu. I also changed my router band from 2.4ghz to 5ghz 40 bandwidth and i havnt seen the message in about 2 weeks.
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im not saying this will fix your problem, but i was getting these messages as well. I switched my wifi power saving off via service menu. I also changed my router band from 2.4ghz to 5ghz 40 bandwidth and i havnt seen the message in about 2 weeks.
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Thanks. Actually did the power save to off this morning. Happened again this afternoon. As far as switch to 5ghz, I've found that my wifi signal's reach gets cut by about 20-30 feet on that band. Which means I lose reception in part of my basement. I can move my router more centrally in the house, but overall speed suffers (goes from a solid 8-10mbps connection to about 1.5 mbps) cuz the wiring to that receptical is sketchy.
I can get that stupid message in the same room as the router.
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LeftyGR said:
Thanks. Actually did the power save to off this morning. Happened again this afternoon. As far as switch to 5ghz, I've found that my wifi signal's reach gets cut by about 20-30 feet on that band. Which means I lose reception in part of my basement. I can move my router more centrally in the house, but overall speed suffers (goes from a solid 8-10mbps connection to about 1.5 mbps) cuz the wiring to that receptical is sketchy.
I can get that stupid message in the same room as the router.
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yeah 5ghz band will cut your signal strength in half probably. Maybe buy a dual band wireless access point? Its wierd that your speed goes down on 5ghz. Mine practically doubled on my note 3. My house connection is 100mbps / 5mps. On 2.4ghz i can only get up to 30 mbps, when i enabled 5ghz wifi, i shot up to ~110mbps down.
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yeah 5ghz band will cut your signal strength in half probably. Maybe buy a dual band wireless access point? Its wierd that your speed goes down on 5ghz. Mine practically doubled on my note 3. My house connection is 100mbps / 5mps. On 2.4ghz i can only get up to 30 mbps, when i enabled 5ghz wifi, i shot up to ~110mbps down.
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that's ridiculous... buy another router or access point? Its the phone, not the internet, when you get the notification when you're right next to the router. The Note 3 is the only device on my house giving me Wi-Fi issues. Sorry I don't mean to sound like an arse, but it seems silly to buy a phone and have to replace your router, when everything else works just fine with the WiFi signal.
Just to clear up, speed goes down when I connect to the other phone plug. So my router (brand new, furnished by internet provider) is on one side of my house. And this happened before moving in mid Nov as well. Before was cable Internet, now dsl. It's the best thing I can get @ current location.
I'm not sure if it will actually solve anything, but I received the latest update ota. Tomorrow gonna download latest firmware and flash via odin avter wiping everything with safestrap.
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Kancerstick said:
im not saying this will fix your problem, but i was getting these messages as well. I switched my wifi power saving off via service menu. I also changed my router band from 2.4ghz to 5ghz 40 bandwidth and i havnt seen the message in about 2 weeks.
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I'm having the same issues. How do I do the steps above? Kind of's a noob and I don't know what the service menu is and where to switch my bandwidth. Can I get a step by step please?
Kancerstick said:
im not saying this will fix your problem, but i was getting these messages as well. I switched my wifi power saving off via service menu. I also changed my router band from 2.4ghz to 5ghz 40 bandwidth and i havnt seen the message in about 2 weeks.
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LeftyGR said:
Just to clear up, speed goes down when I connect to the other phone plug. So my router (brand new, furnished by internet provider) is on one side of my house. And this happened before moving in mid Nov as well. Before was cable Internet, now dsl. It's the best thing I can get @ current location.
I'm not sure if it will actually solve anything, but I received the latest update ota. Tomorrow gonna download latest firmware and flash via odin avter wiping everything with safestrap.
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Armyrj127 said:
I'm having the same issues. How do I do the steps above? Kind of's a noob and I don't know what the service menu is and where to switch my bandwidth. Can I get a step by step please?
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Kancerstick pretty much had it right. Rather than switching the band from direct 2.4 to 5.0 though, go into your router settings and look for a setting that says "channel".
What channel are you running on? There are 1-11 channels, try different ones or the idea is to find the one that matches the channel of the phone/client device
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Kancerstick pretty much had it right. Rather than switching the band from direct 2.4 to 5.0 though, go into your router settings and look for a setting that says "channel".
What channel are you running on? There are 1-11 channels, try different ones or the idea is to find the one that matches the channel of the phone/client device
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Ok, I see what you're saying. I'll check that out when I get home. Thanks!
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This post subject caught my eye... I wish there was an xposed module to disable this function. Anytime my wifi connects to my canon eos this notification always comes up and sometimes ruins the connection
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LeftyGR said:
Hey kids.
I came from the S3 the beginning of November. One of the "new" annoyances I've come across is a notification that the wifi connection Internet speed is too slow. Which is bull. The only way to reconnect after that is to reboot. Sometimes enabling airplane mode does it as well. So my question is twofold. Has anyone else come across this? Has anyone figured out how to turn this stupid setting off?
Thanks in advance.
♢NoteIII♢
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The one solution that did work for me was to go into the WIFI Settings -> Advanced option under the menu key -> Uncheck the "Auto network switch" option. I haven't had any further issues with that message so far.
tried everything...
I think I have tried everything on this issue. I got my note 3 a few days ago and it will not keep a stable network connection. tried:
1. uncheck the auto switch
2. turn off mobile networks
3. turn off wifi when sleeping
4 changed my router to static ip and not DCHP
5. forget and reconnect to network
6. reset router
I don't thing I can change my router settings anymore or I will have issues with other equipment
I am sitting right next to my router and everything else works fine but my note 3 will not keep a connection. I keep running speed test and half the time it works and half the time I get a no connection error.
Any other thoughts? Should I try another unit?
First my setup:
XT1572
TruPureXMM 2.6.3
frankenclark kernel 0.8
Is there anyway to connect to my homewifi faster? I've selected to only show 5ghz wifi networks and I'm only seeing two when I enable wifi yet it dosen't connect to my wifi for maybe 5-10 seconds. Is this a problem with the rom/kernel? I don't remember connecting being this slow when I was on stock 5.1.
If I can change connect speed through the rom/kernel that would be best. Otherwise is there an app that can do it?
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First my setup:
XT1572
TruPureXMM 2.6.3
frankenclark kernel 0.8
Is there anyway to connect to my homewifi faster? I've selected to only show 5ghz wifi networks and I'm only seeing two when I enable wifi yet it dosen't connect to my wifi for maybe 5-10 seconds. Is this a problem with the rom/kernel? I don't remember connecting being this slow when I was on stock 5.1.
If I can change connect speed through the rom/kernel that would be best. Otherwise is there an app that can do it?
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i cant see why you would choose 5ghz over 2.4ghz maybe thats the reason for your problem
5Ghz allows for faster throughput (more bandwidth available) - uses 80 mhz channels vs 20 mhz on the 2.4ghz.
I noticed the slow connection too. Seems if you open wifi settings, it connects immediately.
Heaby said:
First my setup:
XT1572
TruPureXMM 2.6.3
frankenclark kernel 0.8
Is there anyway to connect to my homewifi faster? I've selected to only show 5ghz wifi networks and I'm only seeing two when I enable wifi yet it dosen't connect to my wifi for maybe 5-10 seconds. Is this a problem with the rom/kernel? I don't remember connecting being this slow when I was on stock 5.1.
If I can change connect speed through the rom/kernel that would be best. Otherwise is there an app that can do it?
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Did you try changing the channel in your router?
Haven't tried changing the channel. Will report back after I get home after work.
Heaby said:
First my setup:
XT1572
TruPureXMM 2.6.3
frankenclark kernel 0.8
Is there anyway to connect to my homewifi faster? I've selected to only show 5ghz wifi networks and I'm only seeing two when I enable wifi yet it dosen't connect to my wifi for maybe 5-10 seconds. Is this a problem with the rom/kernel? I don't remember connecting being this slow when I was on stock 5.1.
If I can change connect speed through the rom/kernel that would be best. Otherwise is there an app that can do it?
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I can say that problem is with ROM.
It has very slow auto connection time.
To connect faster I am using:
- drop down notification menu - tap wifi menu where its possible to choose wifi's from that setting - just wait, as soon as it turns on wifi and actually starts to scan area it will auto connect faster than when you just turn on wifi and wait.
I confirm this behavior on XT1575 as well. It takes quite a long time to connect when i enable WiFi.
But if I enter the WiFi settings, it connects instantly.
And i think it's like this since Android 6. I don't recall having this issue on Android 5.
I can't say I've noticed any problems connecting to WiFi networks at home.
I'm running 6.0 stock (Feb 2016 security update) rooted to hell and back.
I have access to five different WiFi networks at home, and am registered to all five for convenience.
I use an app called Best WiFi to auto-connect to the strongest signal whenever my current signal drops below a user-configurable strength threshold.
Perhaps that's the reason I'm not feeling this issue?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pintacdesign.bestwifi&hl=en
I've been using this app for years, since Android 4.0, and across four or five different devices now.
Edit - Before the inevitable questions. I live in a basement and have my own personal WiFi network down there. Upstairs, we have two network piping out of the office (2.4 GHz and an associated 5 GHz link). For the far side of the home, we have a WiFi extender that mirrors and extends those two signals coming from the office (2.4 GHz-Ext and 5 GHz-Ext).
My report:
Whether connecting to 2.4 Ghz (20/40 Mhz) or 5 Ghz (20/40/80 Mhz) the connectspeed is between 5-15 seconds if singlepressing on the wifitoggle. If longpressed it takes about 2-3 seconds. Either this is a problem with the rom or this is the intended behaviour in Marshmallow. But this was not the behaviour in Lollipop as far as I remember. Of course you could argue this a nonissue since longpressing the wifitoggle is the solution. However I would like singlepressing to behave the same since I use Gravitybox to hide the statusbar when pressing 2-state tiles.
Yeah this is a huge pain in the ass. I set up a WiFi shortcut on my home screen so I would start using WiFI more to save battery, but it takes so long for it to finally connect. I also have Tasker turn WiFi on in the morning when my alarm goes off, and it takes so long. It took a few seconds in Lollipop, and now it takes 10+ seconds in Marshmallow. It's ridiculous. Anyway there is no real fix except going into the settings or tapping the drop-down toggle multiple times, as others stated.
I notice the same thing too. Wifi takes long to connect on boot. When I go to connect wifi off, it always shows the routers in the previous area before showing what's in the current area. I turn wifi off when leaving home. I'll connect to a public router, but will still show my home router before showing any around me. I had a Galaxy S5 before and wifi connected right away.
Heaby said:
First my setup:
XT1572
TruPureXMM 2.6.3
frankenclark kernel 0.8
Is there anyway to connect to my homewifi faster? I've selected to only show 5ghz wifi networks and I'm only seeing two when I enable wifi yet it dosen't connect to my wifi for maybe 5-10 seconds. Is this a problem with the rom/kernel? I don't remember connecting being this slow when I was on stock 5.1.
If I can change connect speed through the rom/kernel that would be best. Otherwise is there an app that can do it?
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First off, I am not sure if the OP is turning wifi on first when arriving at home and then seeing the delay, or if Wifi is already ON when you arrive home (EDIT: just reread OP and it appears you are turning it ON - see below), but I leave Wifi ON all the time and do not see any delay when I get home (I pull into my garage and my apps are already updating via my home wifi before I park my car).
There are various steps involved in "getting onto wifi" that don't just involve the client device (authentication to the access point; getting an available IP address from your AP or a separate router, and the stability/software quality of those devices, for example). but you may want to consider a few things to speed up the process at home regardless if Wifi is on, or you turn it on first:
1) go into "Saved Networks" in your wireless settings and "forget" any networks you don't need
2) make sure the device on your network issuing IP addresses (DHCP server software built into your router or AP, whichever you use - also make sure only ONE of the them is acting as DHCP server) has enough available IP's in its pool - better yet, assign the same IP to your MotoX's MAC address (set up a static IP in your routers LAN/DHCP settings if it has them so your MotoX gets the same IP every time)
3) while I agree with another poster about avoiding the 2.4 GHz for Wifi (congestion and more interference), even many 802.11n client radios today don't support 5GHz so keep that in mind if you shut down 2.4GHz in your home completely
4) Use WPA2 with PSK for authentication AND make sure your home SSID is being broadcast (not hidden, which they really aren't anyway with the right tools - A strong WPA2 PSK password is better security even if the world can see your SSID.
4) If you do turn Wifi On and Off, consider leaving it ON and see if that helps your connection time (I suspect it will If you are concerned about battery drain, you can disable wifi during sleep in wireless settings, but I don't have a battery issue with Wifi on 24/7. The Wifi radio beaconing for SSID's or even staying connected to an SSID in the background, when you're not using Wifi, is a very minimal power drain compared to having your screen brightness higher than you need (you can however turn off the annoying wifi network notification setting).
Hope this helps.
For those with this delay, are you running xposed with gravitybox? Tried disabling gravitybox? It maybe GB that's introducing the delay. Need feedback from those running stock.
If stock exhibits similar behavior then it's probably characteristic of the quick toggles in the moto x. The delay appears to be in the actual wifi connection phase, not acquiring ip. As once it actually connects, IP acquisition is almost instant. Toggling wifi off then on directly through settings is very fast, maybe 3-4 seconds.
I have a moto g lte (xt1045) on cm13 which takes about 5 seconds to connect after toggling wifi off then back on. The moto x takes a good 15 seconds.
ech1253 said:
First off, I am not sure if the OP is turning wifi on first when arriving at home and then seeing the delay, or if Wifi is already ON when you arrive home (EDIT: just reread OP and it appears you are turning it ON - see below), but I leave Wifi ON all the time and do not see any delay when I get home (I pull into my garage and my apps are already updating via my home wifi before I park my car).
There are various steps involved in "getting onto wifi" that don't just involve the client device (authentication to the access point; getting an available IP address from your AP or a separate router, and the stability/software quality of those devices, for example). but you may want to consider a few things to speed up the process at home regardless if Wifi is on, or you turn it on first:
1) go into "Saved Networks" in your wireless settings and "forget" any networks you don't need
2) make sure the device on your network issuing IP addresses (DHCP server software built into your router or AP, whichever you use - also make sure only ONE of the them is acting as DHCP server) has enough available IP's in its pool - better yet, assign the same IP to your MotoX's MAC address (set up a static IP in your routers LAN/DHCP settings if it has them so your MotoX gets the same IP every time)
3) while I agree with another poster about avoiding the 2.4 GHz for Wifi (congestion and more interference), even many 802.11n client radios today don't support 5GHz so keep that in mind if you shut down 2.4GHz in your home completely
4) Use WPA2 with PSK for authentication AND make sure your home SSID is being broadcast (not hidden, which they really aren't anyway with the right tools - A strong WPA2 PSK password is better security even if the world can see your SSID.
4) If you do turn Wifi On and Off, consider leaving it ON and see if that helps your connection time (I suspect it will If you are concerned about battery drain, you can disable wifi during sleep in wireless settings, but I don't have a battery issue with Wifi on 24/7. The Wifi radio beaconing for SSID's or even staying connected to an SSID in the background, when you're not using Wifi, is a very minimal power drain compared to having your screen brightness higher than you need (you can however turn off the annoying wifi network notification setting).
Hope this helps.
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For those with this delay, are you running xposed with gravitybox? Tried disabling gravitybox? It maybe GB that's introducing the delay. Need feedback from those running stock.
If stock exhibits similar behavior then it's probably characteristic of the quick toggles in the moto x. The delay appears to be in the actual wifi connection phase, not acquiring ip. As once it actually connects, IP acquisition is almost instant. Toggling wifi off then on directly through settings is very fast, maybe 3-4 seconds.
I have a moto g lte (xt1045) on cm13 which takes about 5 seconds to connect after toggling wifi off then back on. The moto x takes a good 15 seconds.
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@ech1253: I've checked everything you suggested and you are right, having wifi on will make it connect almost instantly.
@gpz1100: I'm running xposed with gravitybox. Disabling gravitybox didn't change anything. I'd rather not uninstall xposed and/or go back to stock so if someone on stock without xposed could chime in that would be helpful.
It does it on stock android 6 for me and on a custom rom as well. Since day 1 with the moto x but at least wifi works just a long delay that no other android flagship from suffers from. :S
hexxor93 said:
It does it on stock android 6 for me and on a custom rom as well. Since day 1 with the moto x but at least wifi works just a long delay that no other android flagship from suffers from. :S
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That's...not encouraging
Hopefully it's a softwarebug.