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if your thinking of buying a droid x and rooting it then think again http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/07/14/droid-x-actually-self-destructs-if-you-try-to-mod-it/ . if you dont care to root it then disregard this. if you try to even root it you will brick it!?!?!? why would they do that????
If you'd rather not support your product if someone else meddles with it, that's totally fine. Void their warranties; don't kill your own product to spite them.
You are not inventors. You are profiteers afraid of people, at home, doing what you do better than you.
And maybe you should be.
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They're using open source software and afraid of the open source community doing what they do better than they do it.
Shame on Moto, good thing I love Htc anyways.
I r n00b.
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Just saw that on reddit. That's nasty..q
Wonder when HTC will try doing this. :-/
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Wonder when HTC will try doing this. :-/
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Well if HTC starts doing that, then you can bet Android be screwed over because no one is going to buy them anymore. So the companies that decide to do crap like this are just screwing themselves over.
Kcarpenter said:
Wonder when HTC will try doing this. :-/
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The same week I buy an iPhone.
illogic6 said:
The same week I buy an iPhone.
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That's like trading one jail cell for another.
dam that rly sucks, but im sure they will figure out ways around it
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That's like trading one jail cell for another.
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It is fairly easy to jailbreak an iphone these days... my dad jailbroke his 3gs a few days after he got it and he is the guy who's VCR always flashed 12:00...
It's all fear mongering. It's the same protection as Milestone devices and the Droid. All of them have the OMAP3 eFuse.
Look up Steven Bird's blog (I can't post links yet) he explains it. Said that it's more than likely not to brick the phone. He's got donations up and going now to try and get one to test it himself.
Yup, this FUD has been debunked. Enough with the eFuse DROID X Talk Already
The response from Motorola was that it wouldn't "brick" the phone, but if the efuse was triggered it would render the phone unusable until it was repaired with motorola software. Which pretty much means the folks here at XDA will likely find a way around the efuse without too much trouble
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The response from Motorola was that it wouldn't "brick" the phone, but if the efuse was triggered it would render the phone unusable until it was repaired with motorola software. Which pretty much means the folks here at XDA will likely find a way around the efuse without too much trouble
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I bet someone will leak the "motorola software" just like the RUU's have been leaked from HTC.
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I bet someone will leak the "motorola software" just like the RUU's have been leaked from HTC.
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Or they could, I dunno, download it from Motorola's site. Really, all they're doing is a checksum and giving you the opportunity to flash an RUU if they don't match. No Moto repair required.
Wow Motorola, way to go... u just scared off about 3/4 of u'r customers right there. Talk about BS limiting a user on what he/she is able to load on to HIS/HER own phone. Ridiculous!
It's not FUD. It may not "brick" the phone, but it's another attempt to stop the end user, the person that legally purchased the phone, from tinkering with it. Just as the quote I posted above says, they're not inventors. They are profiteers afraid of people, at home, doing what they do better than them.
My friend and I had this conversation the other day. He stated that Sprint has a right to protect their network and any phone they sell you with a discount for buying a plan. He is correct, to a point. Sprint doesn't want us using our phones for more than they give us (despite claims of "unlimited" data) because they have to protect their profit margins. They also don't want us tinkering with our phones because we, tinkerers, could break them. Insurance doesn't cover "tinkering". Sprint is taking a huge up-front hit by selling us the phone as cheap as they do but they recoup that cost by locking us into 2-year contracts. They need to keep us in those contracts to turn a profit. So, I feel they have a right to protect that until the contract is up.
Or, on the other hand, those that purchase their phones outright, without contracts and without subsidies, should have the right to tinker all they like... including the consequences.
E-fuse, what?
I still don't believe it was FUD because of the reasons I mentioned above, but it was successfully bypassed.
EDIT: The e-fuse wasn't bypassed. They got root, which isn't watched by the e-fuse. Putting a new ROM on the phone would, though. Getting root is a start, though, and should allow them to figure out how the e-fuse works. Then I'm sure they can bypass it. It'll just take some more time.
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Like there was any doubt! Devs > Motorola
Hi all,
I recently bought a samsung focus through ebay but the phone was stuck in demo mode and I wanted to get rid of the demo.
What I have done is: I flashed the phone with the XENJK1 rom for omnia 7.
now the phone works perfect except these problems:
"down" volume button increases the volume instead of decreasing it.
"up" volume button does not do anything at all.
back button sometimes does not work
start button is not working at all
the accelerometer orientation of the screen is opposite than it should be!
any one got any idea how to fix these?! please!
Sounds very much like flashing i9000 Galaxy ROM to AT&T Captivate.The hardware of these two phones are slightlydifferent. There is no way unless you can hack the ROM to fix those issues. On Captivate (Android), ppl needs to mod the ROM (called re-orientation) before apply to the phone. Hope you're good at modding WP7 ROMs.
I have no experience in hacking wp7 roms but I will give it a shot if you could tell me what tools I need for it.
I don't know how to either. I don't believe anyone knows how to (check the Focus Dev forum and you will see). So, basically means you're SOL.
FYI: demo mode = stolen AT&T display phone.
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FYI: demo mode = stolen AT&T display phone.
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Many people spent $200 at least to get demo mode focus but had no idea of demo mode. Don't tell me they should return their phone to AT&T.
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Many people spent $200 at least to get demo mode focus but had no idea of demo mode. Don't tell me they should return their phone to AT&T.
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yes and that was their stupidity.... ebay... id returned it and gave the seller horrible feedback plus reported it to ebay as stolen... craigslist...their stupidity of not making a call with it before you bought it period..... and as for they should return it... well if it ever by chance got caught by at&t...they could and i guarantee would prosecute... it is stolen property... im no goody goody but i wouldnt chance my reputation over a freakin cell phone... i mean if someone stole your phone wouldnt you want it back? someone walks through my door and says i found this or i got this from someone and saw your info in it ...id give them the benefit... if i found it in someone's posession and it was mine...im prosecuting to the fullest extent... plus this is federal... its a fcc licensed device.... so stupidity is no excuse for keeping something you either knew when you bought it was stolen or just found out and said well i paid 200 for it its mine... sorry its the property of at&t... hope you go to jail... over a cell phone.. that would be embarrassing...
ps who knows at&t might give you a reward...
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Many people spent $200 at least to get demo mode focus but had no idea of demo mode. Don't tell me they should return their phone to AT&T.
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In many places, buying a stolen good is illegal as well. I have no sympathy for those who purchase stolen goods, knowingly or not.
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I am returning the phone and already opened a case on ebay. Hope there will be no problem because I installed an other rom to the phone in order to try and get it work properly. I haven't realised that it was stolen obviously since now! I also requested a full refund. any other suggestions what I should do?
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I am returning the phone and already opened a case on ebay. Hope there will be no problem because I installed an other rom to the phone in order to try and get it work properly. I haven't realised that it was stolen obviously since now! I also requested a full refund. any other suggestions what I should do?
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yeah..thats the best way to solve the problem.
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yeah..thats the best way to solve the problem.
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then what is your solution... your best way????
Stolen phone
You guys totally went off track on what the op was asking and gave him no useful advice, he didn't ask for your sympathy, he asked about what to do. The commentor about I hope you get prosecuted blah blah blah, you have no clue about law and it is not a federal offense because it is FCC approved, car radios, iPods and all electronics that have radios or receive signals are FCC approved and are not federal offenses if you are in possession of them if they are stolen, go back to law school. In regards to editing the rom, good luck at this point wait for the update and flash with Odin. Now that's a Canadian answer some advice on his question, not some ignorant American answer about guns, laws and whatever else you guys could throw in.
I like the guys anamocity towards anyone talking about the demo mode phones. I buy and flip phones on ebay and craigslist, have gotten demo mode phones before, and am offended that you would go so far as to insult anyone for making the mistake of buying one. You do not have to flame to express your strict opinion of the law and what one should do with something they spent lots of money on. Just my two cents kawgi.
What a gem!
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Now that's a Canadian answer some advice on his question, not some ignorant American answer about guns, laws and whatever else you guys could throw in.
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Wow. Canadian, huh?
Priceless...
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any one got any idea how to fix these?! please!
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Does the Zune software see your device as a Focus or Omnia 7? If there's a registry key that identifies your device that can be changed, you might be able to get the next Focus ROM flashed on your phone through the update process.
At least your phone works. That's a far better situation than most people conned into buying demo phones.
zune recognise it as OMNIA 7 unfortunately.. and I don't have the required software knowledge to mess into the registry so I have the phone dusting in my office..
Worth trying
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zune recognise it as OMNIA 7 unfortunately.. and I don't have the required software knowledge to mess into the registry so I have the phone dusting in my office..
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Actually, it may be a good thing.
It might be worth trying to find a reg key that can be changed to identify your device to Zune as a Focus. Assuming the Nodo update is a complete flash followed by a sync (which I believe it is, though, I'm not certain) you may be able to get the Nodo update for the Focus.
Probably a long shot, but not too much work and nothing to lose?
I will give it a try then.. but I doubt that the nodo update is a complete flash so even if I manage to make zune recognise my phone as a Focus (still no idea how to do that) it won't do a thing..
This is funny as hell, I suppose you guys have never used a copy of Microsoft Windows as well, right? some friend gave it to you (maybe even a relative), Gosh I sure hope you ratted on your sister for that copy of Windows!
This is the problem with America today, its turning into a society of rats! You cant even have cheats on console games anymore , you can have achievements ,whoopty do , not the same thing , I suppose if you open the xbox ,the FBI will be searching for you! Yes this topic got way off base!
Good luck finding a rom for your phone!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982626
That would be why folks are coming down on this thread about using a Focus that was in "DEMO" mode.
I am no expert at phone hacks and such, but it seems completely logical that you could perform some things in diagnostic mode + registry changes to fix all of these problems. Just dig to find and learn how to do these and i believe you can do it.
Please sign this petition to put a stop to htc and their locked bootloaders. Takes 5secs. Even if your not getting this phone you should still sign it, so this wont happen to fututure phones.
http://www.groubal.com/htc-bootloaders-and-nand/
http://www.groubal.com/htc-bootloaders-and-nand/
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Bump that shiznit
Ya good luck with that. Why would they want to make it easier for you to access the phones bootloader? Unless they are going to sell it with no warranty. I mean really that's like buying a new car taking the motor apart putting it back together with different parts then expecting the manufacture to pick up the bill when it all goes bad. They aren't going to do it no matter how much you beg for it. Even the person trying to make the petition understands the reason for them not doing it. To sell more phones. The general public doesn't mess with or care to mess with their phones they want it to turn on and just work. So what maybe 2% really care to tinker with their phones. Ya don't think they are going to do what your asking for even 10 or 20% of their customer base.
Would it be nice sure..I like to play with my phones and thanks to place like this site I can. I just don't see it happening anytime soon. They are only going to get more and more locked down.
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Ya good luck with that. Why would they want to make it easier for you to access the phones bootloader? Unless they are going to sell it with no warranty. I mean really that's like buying a new car taking the motor apart putting it back together with different parts then expecting the manufacture to pick up the bill when it all goes bad. They aren't going to do it no matter how much you beg for it. Even the person trying to make the petition understands the reason for them not doing it. To sell more phones. The general public doesn't mess with or care to mess with their phones they want it to turn on and just work. So what maybe 2% really care to tinker with their phones. Ya don't think they are going to do what your asking for even 10 or 20% of their customer base.
Would it be nice sure..I like to play with my phones and thanks to place like this site I can. I just don't see it happening anytime soon. They are only going to get more and more locked down.
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Ha. Got anything else to say? Didn't think so. Appears we one.
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Please sign this petition to put a stop to htc and their locked bootloaders. Takes 5secs. Even if your not getting this phone you should still sign it, so this wont happen to fututure phones.
http://www.groubal.com/htc-bootloaders-and-nand/
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I don't think so... Otherwise it will looks like a cheap phone....
htc is gonna open up the bootloaders on future phones. we won open bootloaders
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htc is gonna open up the bootloaders on future phones. we won open bootloaders
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Hi,
Does that include the upcoming EU Sensation??
no not at the moment. here in germany the sensation is already available and locked. maybe they will open it up some time but for now this is just for future phones excluding the evo 3d. think this also will come with loced bootloader and maybe it will be possible to unlock it some time.
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Please sign this petition to put a stop to htc and their locked bootloaders. Takes 5secs. Even if your not getting this phone you should still sign it, so this wont happen to fututure phones.
http://www.groubal.com/htc-bootloaders-and-nand/
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Check out the good news as stated here : http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/26/htc-officially-dissolves-locked-bootlader-policy/
HTC have announced that locked bootloaders will be no more!
Good news. I wonder if they are going to unlock existing bootloaders?
Great news \o/
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/26/htc-officially-dissolves-locked-bootlader-policy/
Hey congrats I guess. Can't complain about them doing it. It's just something you would think they wouldn't want to do. I was proven wrong and I have no problem saying.
Not trying to piss in anyone's Cheerios, but they probably didn't see nor care about an online petition, especially with only 7000 sigs. That's a drop in the ocean.
Trust me, a company like HTC isn't going to make such an announcement on a whim, it's gonna go through the company ranks for pros/cons, profit projections, etc... The idea would have started internally in HTC well before anyone set up that petition.
It would be interesting to see their true reasons for the decision. I highly doubt it's for "the betterment of the community". They have to think it will increase profits.
Either way, works out great for us. Now all they need to do is open up their drivers, etc.. and we'd be set.
well why have they started locking them now with the sensation and evo 3d?
have you read the post on facebook? i don't think this was a marketing thing and i don't think that they would have locked it up again if nobody complained.
Great news! The best part is that they really listen to people.
Hi community, I was just curious as to whether anyone knows if the newer manufactured Sliders (B70+) with the sbkv3 bootloader I believe are being looked at to try and add Wheelie and Nvflash functionality?
I'd just rather get all the facts so I know if it would be a better idea to continue searching for an older model.
This is in no way an ETA or demand toward anyone to get this accomplished. I was just wondering whether or not the faithful Slider community was being considered a part of the Transformer family.
Thanks for reading, feel free to respond with any comments!
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Hi community, I was just curious as to whether anyone knows if the newer manufactured Sliders (B70+) with the sbkv3 bootloader I believe are being looked at to try and add Wheelie and Nvflash functionality?
I'd just rather get all the facts so I know if it would be a better idea to continue searching for an older model.
This is in no way an ETA or demand toward anyone to get this accomplished. I was just wondering whether or not the faithful Slider community was being considered a part of the Transformer family.
Thanks for reading, feel free to respond with any comments!
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I assure you, if we are able to add it, we will. That's all we can really tell right now.
rayman84 said:
I assure you, if we are able to add it, we will. That's all we can really tell right now.
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Thanks for the response, rayman. Hopefully we'll get a breakthrough sometime in the future.
On a side note, anyone ever hear of a BB0 serial number? A guy on ebay is claiming that's what he has. I thought maybe he was mistaking it for B80, but he assures me it is in fact BB0. It's a 32GB model, if that means anything different.
The second B is Hex code, I believe. It's a newer model.
Greetings!
I have ran out of options and finally decided to take this step, not really sure if it will work but still hoping though that it will. I have come here to ask for help from developers and people with great knowledge in these things. Here is my situation. My friend bought a gmate+ device abroad as a gift for me here in Philippines and unfortunately, this device can only be used in the country it was bought in. After reading things in the manufacturer's site and contacting them (they have a very not-so-satisfying customer service, sorry to mention this), it seems that there really is no cure for my case unless I have it ship back and ask for refund then buy a new one here instead,which is also almost impossible because I do not have the receipt(the item was just given to me without any receipt) and I do not know exactly from which store my friend purchase it(and according to him, he is also unsure from which store exactly because he went shopping for things as gifts not in just a single store or place). So to make the story short, I now have a useless piece of device which could have been really great for my Nexus 7 if only it works. The gmate+ is a device sold by the company Skyroam. This is a bluetooth device which allows an Android or iOS running gadget to have the ability to use GSM service through it via bluetooth pairing and software. I do not know if it is really hard, but I'm thinking ( actually hoping and praying ) that maybe somebody here could do something about my case, perhaps build a workaround via a software. I would really appreciate it if anybody would take time to work on this project. Additional info which may help, if anybody's interested, I'm running the stock update Android 4.3 for the Nexus 7 (2012).
Thanks and more power!
Are you sure that this is related to app development? Can this be changed with an app?
If you think so, you can ask here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2349036
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Are you sure that this is related to app development? Can this be changed with an app?
If you think so, you can ask here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2349036
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Not 100% sure, but like I said I am really praying and hoping it is. Maybe somebody could think of a workaround or if it's really impossible then at least they'd inform me why.
Thank you so much for the link.
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Not 100% sure, but like I said I am really praying and hoping it is. Maybe somebody could think of a workaround or if it's really impossible then at least they'd inform me why.
Thank you so much for the link.
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You might need another firmware for the gmate+.
Or someone has to rewrite the Android app.
But to me it seems as if it it needed another firmware.
nikwen said:
You might need another firmware for the gmate+.
Or someone has to rewrite the Android app.
But to me it seems as if it it needed another firmware.
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This is what I'm hoping somebody here could.
The manufacturer's site is up and it has details about the product as well, so the developer could know better about it. I have also found similar gadgets online. They are mostly products that are manufactured in China and have outdated softwares.