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Heating issue!

Hey,
Is anyone experiencing heating issues with their handset? I've just been reading on GSM that a lot of people are complaining.

Yes, its an issue.

http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/06/10/japanese-xperia-z4-owners-complain-of-heat-issues/
up to 60 and higher lol

Crewville96 said:
Yes, its an issue.
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Do you have it

sfkaudi said:
Do you have it
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I don't have a Z3+ (I have a Z3C), but I've read this:
Japanese Xperia Z4 owners complain of heat issues
followed by this:
Sony responds to Xperia Z3+ heating issues
Sony statement on Xperia Z3+ heating concerns
“The Xperia Z3+ is a high-performance 64-bit octa-core device with advanced camera technology, in some cases, additional heat can cause functions to stop. Enabling applications can also be felt by the user through the glass on the back. This is normal for the unit and should cause no concern.”

We need a reputable source to do an actual review of the production device.

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Lolento said:
We need a reputable source to do an actual review of the production device.
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Who is more reputable than Sony THEMSELVES, the ACTUAL manufacturers of the phone???

This is a big worry, was thinking of buying the z3+ but now might get the z3 idk. I was really excited for the z3+ but if the overheating is such an issue to the point where Japanese markets are advising their consumers to "use your tablet or pc instead of your phone if you can". I mean i shouldn't have to worry about these kind of stuff esp for a PREMIUM phone. Very disappointed

If we are reading the same quote from Sony, they are not stating there is an overheat issue. Heat generation is normal. I have this problem on my z2 when recording in 4k.

Look at this,
Already test z3+ for long time just normal heat
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Sory dopost for becaue this picture

Xerxess, Please, try to run some game, Nfs, or Real racing 3, for example, and to play it for a 15-20 mins, and then look at the temp, if device won't turn off earlier of course And also, could you, please, try to use camera and video recording , and then report about a device heating to us, please
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AR Mask app can shut down to prevent heating issues in under a minute. It was fine on prototype firmware, so something has been changed for the worse there..
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My Z2 has a heating problem, but its not at high level. Shoul I do troubleshoot it ?

@xerxess, kindly let us know what firmware version your Z3+ is on.

I'm curious to find out if any of you reporting heating issues are running any apps to undercloak the CPU. Even my AT&T Galaxy S5 runs very hot if I dont use anything to undercloak or even use Power Saver at leat. I can run my phone with two cores on and two cores off undercloaked at 1.2 Ghz. What I'm saying here is try to run the phone with 4 coes online and 4 off, and undercloak all 4 cores at say 1.5 Ghz. I bet the heating issues would decrease if not go away all together. Obviously why buy a V8 if u are going to run it like a 4 cilynder right??? But we are talking about an issue here, that obviously e en the manufactures are aware of. Otherwise the camera app or other apps would not close when the temp gets up there. All they are doing at that point is turning off cores and undercloaking the ones that are one to prevent any more heat build up. And that allows the system in ur phone to dissipate the heat more efficiently. Any thoughts?

I don't have any overheating issues with my z3+. I havent played a game on it but I used it for a navigation while plugged in, where i would expect to heat up a lot. I mean it heats up a bit but what xperia z doesnt?

I am suspecting all the fuss may be coming from guerrilla marketing ploys from one of Sony's competitors. The Z4/Z3+ really is the best flagship phone in terms of design. SD810 has been in the market (via M9 and G4) and this issue coverage is only overblown with Sony's new phone.

So I just tried to play real racing 3 for 20 minutes while on charger and yes, the phone is hot but my old Z1 was the same way. It didnt crash or anything due to overheating.
btw. you can always put it into water to cool it down

I own the xperia z4 tablet wifi for some days now. Have tested it extensively over the weekend and can truly state that it has NO heating issue. Just played real racing 3 for about half an hour and the tablet gets moderately warm. NO crashes.
And no, i do not work for Sony.

All about performance (question)

Hi, I'm looking at this phone to potentially buy as the phone is the perfect size for me and I really like the look.I owned the z3c and loved it until I dropped it and blew the screen out. After going through an S6 and G4, I sold sold them for various issues with software and the size was still a bit large for my liking. I currently have an iPhone 6S and was surprised how fast it is and the size is really good. BUT, I prefer Android and have a warm spot for the compact line. My concern though as others I'm sure have as well is all of this talk about Sony not properly optimizing the handset and how it lags and stutters while scrolling. Seems unacceptable to release this kind of unfinished product. Seen and read videos and articles about people complaining the same things..so this is no fluke correct? I am very hesitant to buy this phone and would like to know from users their experience with software issues. I want this to be a discussion to help potential buyers like me, and I'm sure there are many concerned as I am about performance based issues before we buy. Thanks in advance!
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if there were any kind of lagg in my device, now since latest update it is gone, as phone feels just like Z3C, even better i may say.

bubimir13
thanks for that. Saw there was a stage fright update but was there some optimization update as well?
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Yeah, some users posted about faster governor scaling in this firmware. So cpu frequencys are raised more aggressively now.
My device runs a lot smoother with this update. This was the only point that I was unhappy with before the update. It is not as snappy as some other devices I had in my hand but definitely good now. Still some micro stuttering at some occasions but I am very confident that there will be much more improvement soon, especially with Android M update.
Nexus is using the same SoC on their devices, shipped with Android 6 so Sony will benefit from further updates, regarding hardware optimization.
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darthbane7 said:
Yeah, some users posted about faster governor scaling in this firmware. So cpu frequencys are raised more aggressively now.
My device runs a lot smoother with this update. This was the only point that I was unhappy with before the update. It is not as snappy as some other devices I had in my hand but definitely good now. Still some micro stuttering at some occasions but I am very confident that there will be much more improvement soon, especially with Android M update.
Nexus is using the same SoC on their devices, shipped with Android 6 so Sony will benefit from further updates, regarding hardware optimization.
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Well, the "stutters" could be removed quite easily.
What Sony did is they decreased the sampling interval of the governor,
this leads to increased responsiveness, however it does not fight the root cause.
The device is not able to operate smoothly at the given freq threshold (960 000 kHz), and decreasing sampling time will not help to resolve this.
What Sony should've done instead is simply leaving the sampling interval and increase the freq thresholds.
I'll soon get my device rooted again and prove that with this change battery-life will not be sacraficed, but the amount of micro-stutters will be noticably reduced.
The SOC has so much potential and power-reserves, this device could perform way better with proper less-conservative tuning.

Got the phone on release and was very disappointed with all the lag and stutters. But since the latest update, everything is smooth sailing.
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pocii said:
Got the phone on release and was very disappointed with all the lag and stutters. But since the latest update, everything is smooth sailing.
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yea same! Got the update last night and everything seems well even the camera boots up faster!

Thanks for the good news on updates. I'm clueless as to why Sony would release an unfinished product though. Just doesn't make sense..especially in their mobile situation..baffling
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I noticed a huge increase in speed when waking the camera after the update. Phone feels much snappier overall as well. Glad to see Sony doing some better optimizations.
Lag isn't gone for me, but it's substantially better. I think I'm noticing the 2gb of ram too. When streaming music and browsing photos, when I scroll through 20-25 photos the music app crashes. I have repeated this 100% of the time. Could it be running out of ram as I scroll through these high-res photos? Frustrating.
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Tommy-Geenexus said:
Well, the "stutters" could be removed quite easily.
What Sony did is they decreased the sampling interval of the governor,
this leads to increased responsiveness, however it does not fight the root cause.
The device is not able to operate smoothly at the given freq threshold (960 000 kHz), and decreasing sampling time will not help to resolve this.
What Sony should've done instead is simply leaving the sampling interval and increase the freq thresholds.
I'll soon get my device rooted again and prove that with this change battery-life will not be sacraficed, but the amount of micro-stutters will be noticably reduced.
The SOC has so much potential and power-reserves, this device could perform way better with proper less-conservative tuning.
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Is there a way to report stuff like this (and other bugs) directly to the development team? Because the Sony forum (talk.sonymobile.com) seems to be used for less technical problems.
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thesebastian said:
Is there a way to report stuff like this (and other bugs) directly to the development team? Because the Sony forum (talk.sonymobile.com) seems to be used for less technical problems.
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I honestly don't know, but i am in contact with Sony's community manager and can forward most stuff this way.
However i'll wait first till marshmallow drops as i don't think Sony puts in much effort in 5.1 either way (which makes sense).
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any ETA? I heard it won't be ready untill the December, other rumors say only in Sprinl like with 5.o in Z3 series, and other say its gonna happen in November...

For me it's still very slow and laggy even after the latest update, it got a little better but my Z1C performed way better. I really hope marshmallow will improve this. Sometimes I'm about the break the phone in two because it's so slow!

e2zippo said:
For me it's still very slow and laggy even after the latest update, it got a little better but my Z1C performed way better. I really hope marshmallow will improve this. Sometimes I'm about the break the phone in two because it's so slow!
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Could you let me know the lag you see? Is it with opening apps or scrolling screens or typing ect..?
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Notchr302 said:
Could you let me know the lag you see? Is it with opening apps or scrolling screens or typing ect..?
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For me it's really all over, when switching between apps mostly. But waiting for keyboard to pop up and other stuff. The animations are not slow when they do appear. I will try do do a video of it.

e2zippo said:
For me it's really all over, when switching between apps mostly. But waiting for keyboard to pop up and other stuff. The animations are not slow when they do appear. I will try do do a video of it.
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That would be awesome. Appreciate it!
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Z5 heat and experience

Hi guys
I'm thinking of buying a Z5 Premium or the normal Version of the z5 coming from a Note 4 before that
I wanted to ask how your experience is with the z5 Premium how is heat with the device I heard the snapdragon 810 did a lot of problems with other devices. How the battery hold and so on how is your overall experience

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Hi guys
I'm thinking of buying a Z5 Premium or the normal Version of the z5 coming from a Note 4 before that
I wanted to ask how your experience is with the z5 Premium how is heat with the device I heard the snapdragon 810 did a lot of problems with other devices. How the battery hold and so on how is your overall experience
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is the only bad thing to me. is awful that a flagship got really hot with the camera or videos. not a problem if your fingers arent at the top of the phone. but if you touch from middle to top it could burn if it a few degrees more.

Sh4rkill3r said:
is the only bad thing to me. is awful that a flagship got really hot with the camera or videos. not a problem if your fingers arent at the top of the phone. but if you touch from middle to top it could burn if it a few degrees more.
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Didn't know that Xperia Z5 can heat up that much. Did you have GPS running background?

jameskits097 said:
Didn't know that Xperia Z5 can heat up that much. Did you have GPS running background?
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Nope
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jameskits097 said:
Didn't know that Xperia Z5 can heat up that much. Did you have GPS running background?
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I have no idea what that other guy is talking about. The Z5 doesn't get nearly that hot. Maybe he has some sort of defective device or something. As a matter of fact, the only time the device gets warm at all is when playing some graphically intensive games, and then, it never gets as hot as the iPhone 6s I owned for a bit.

Defecting?stop lieing. The phone get hot and is a fact. I said when you use the camera or videos
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Sh4rkill3r said:
Defecting?stop lieing. The phone get hot and is a fact. I said when you use the camera or videos
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What part of what I said could be construed as lying? The device simply does NOT get so hot that it could, with a few more degrees, potentially burn your fingers. That's insanity. I don't care what app you're using. If your device does get that hot, then there's something wrong with it. I've had mine for over a month now, and it certainly does not do get that hot. And I find it highly unlikely that Sony would knowingly release a product that could almost burn someone's fingers.

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What part of what I said could be construed as lying? The device simply does NOT get so hot that it could, with a few more degrees, potentially burn your fingers. That's insanity. I don't care what app you're using. If your device does get that hot, then there's something wrong with it. I've had mine for over a month now, and it certainly does not do get that hot. And I find it highly unlikely that Sony would knowingly release a product that could almost burn someone's fingers.
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Hot differ from people to people. Maybe for you 40 degrees is not hot. For me yes
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Sh4rkill3r said:
Defecting?stop lieing. The phone get hot and is a fact. I said when you use the camera or videos
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bull****. very device specific. i haven't found the phone to get very hot. tried 4k video for 5 minuten, played around with the ar dino....
ar does warm it up a bit. and it also became warm when i was first using the phone and installing all my apps..
just warm, definitely not hot. certainly not hot enough to burn skin or bake an egg haha, let's say 40-45 degrees C...

There are so many samsung or other android manufacturer fanboys that wants to bash Sony.. They did a perfect job on the heat issue, one of the best especially using the SD 810 that everyone talked sh*t about.
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Barthlon said:
bull****. very device specific. i haven't found the phone to get very hot. tried 4k video for 5 minuten, played around with the ar dino....
ar does warm it up a bit. and it also became warm when i was first using the phone and installing all my apps..
just warm, definitely not hot. certainly not hot enough to burn skin or bake an egg haha, let's say 40-45 degrees C...
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I didnt said that. But 40 C is hot for me
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There are so many samsung or other android manufacturer fanboys that wants to bash Sony.. They did a perfect job on the heat issue, one of the best especially using the SD 810 that everyone talked sh*t about.
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You are calling me a Samsung fanboy?you see my signature? My previous phone was a Xperia x8 I dontn care about others phones
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Barthlon said:
let's say 40-45 degrees C...
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43C right here
he really needed a tripod for that video though.

Sh4rkill3r said:
I didnt said that. But 40 C is hot for me
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You are calling me a Samsung fanboy?you see my signature? My previous phone was a Xperia x8 I dontn care about others phones
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Then sell it and go try some other device that can shoot 20min 4K, is waterproof,stereo speakers,one of the best android camera,beautiful design,micro sd slot. ugh there isn't any?
I saw many videos that the Z5 runs 2-3 degrees hotter than the 'coldest' Note 5 and thats respectful.
Be happy that you have it, because if I had the choice to jump from my Z2 it would be Z5 or the Z5 premium.
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Lol this is why I don't believe in what most people on here say as the negative. Its them trying to nit pick on tge device.In actual reality all phones get warm or hotter than others when using it. It's an electronic device that has internal components and boards inside so yeah its gonna get warm/hot. Phones are made from different materials from plastic,to glass,to metal etc. And the heat attracts differently in each.so to the op,if your asking if the phone gets warm/hot.. Yes it does and so does every other phone out there. If your asking if it gets hot to where it burns?? I highly doubt that.

beni8978 said:
Then sell it and go try some other device that can shoot 20min 4K, is waterproof,stereo speakers,one of the best android camera,beautiful design,micro sd slot. ugh there isn't any?
I saw many videos that the Z5 runs 2-3 degrees hotter than the 'coldest' Note 5 and thats respectful.
Be happy that you have it, because if I had the choice to jump from my Z2 it would be Z5 or the Z5 premium.
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I didnt said I dont like it CALM DOWN. What happen with this forum? Can't say 1 thing I don't like of the phone?
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Sh4rkill3r said:
I didnt said I dont like it CALM DOWN. What happen with this forum? Can't say 1 thing I don't like of the phone?
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I'm relatively new to this forum, so I don't know if it's changed in any dramatic way recently, but it seems to me that no one has any objection to you mentioning issues with the device. I have a few negative things to say about the device myself (I'm very disappointed with the volume of the speakers, for instance).
Don't be surprised, though, when you get some backlash for saying incredible things like "a few degrees more and the phone will burn your hands". That's just plain exaggerated nonsense. And in the case it isn't nonsense, then it must be the fact that you have a device that is out of the norm, otherwise people would be reporting this near hand-burning issue left and right.
I agree with the previous poster...almost all modern handheld devices get warm with CPU-intensive applications, and in my experience, this device has not gotten any hotter than other recent flagship devices like the iPhone 6S. It's gotten warm on occasion, but certainly not anywhere's near hand-burning temps.

I don't know if you are comfy with 40 degrees. Im not. And for me that is hot. I don't care if S6 is worst I don't have that phone. I'm talking about Z5. I know that the SD 810 is the culprit and not Sony but stop with the fanboyism. I only said like in the first post IS THE ONLY BAD THING FOR ME. Check I said ME.
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Sh4rkill3r said:
I don't know if you are comfy with 40 degrees. Im not. And for me that is hot. I don't care if S6 is worst I don't have that phone. I'm talking about Z5. I know that the SD 810 is the culprit and not Sony but stop with the fanboyism. I only said like in the first post IS THE ONLY BAD THING FOR ME. Check I said ME.
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Yep, must be the 810 because the media and everyone else has instilled in us that it's just a terrible processor that will melt phones. I have had 2 phones with it, and while it does get warm, it never gets hot or overheats. Not to mention it is one fast chip. I can say for certain that my M8 got way warmer than my G Flex 2, and probably the Z5 too.

beni8978 said:
There are so many samsung or other android manufacturer fanboys that wants to bash Sony.. They did a perfect job on the heat issue, one of the best especially using the SD 810 that everyone talked sh*t about.
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"Perfect job"
They definitely have not done a perfect job at all.

beni8978 said:
There are so many samsung or other android manufacturer fanboys that wants to bash Sony.. They did a perfect job on the heat issue, one of the best especially using the SD 810 that everyone talked sh*t about.
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I agree with you

Still worth buying?

Good day!
I've been looking for a new device to buy as a replacement for my Z1 compact. I have considered the Z5 and this phone.
I liked the Z5 at first. It has arguably better camera and has dual heat pipes. I think after that they're almost the same. But Z5 is still ~$120 more expensive than the Z3+ here in our country. So I'm picking between the two.
I have been reading a lot, and it is always conflicting. Some say overheating issue in Z3+ is gone, some not. I've been trying to fully desire the Z3+, but I'm just scared my money will go to waste if I have a device I can barely use.
There are already similar threads but those were a year ago. So my question is, is this still worth buying? Can I have some assurance that this phone will not heat up and become useless? I want a phone that can stay with me for at least 2 years. Thank you in advance for the help.

What is your average usage scenario, meaning for what will you use your phone? Playing lots of games, shooting 4K videos?
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djurkash said:
What is your average usage scenario, meaning for what will you use your phone? Playing lots of games, shooting 4K videos?
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Hi! During weekdays, I probably spend an hour or 2 of music while on commute. 3-4 hours of usage (browsing, reading, youtube) when I got home. On weekends, I spend more time on my phone. Probably double of what I do on the weekdays.
About games, I play occasionally, when I got bored or have nothing else to do. Not really heavy games.
And lastly about the camera. I take a lot of photos when I go out, buildings and stuff. Videos: rarely, and I'll use 1080p/720p if I do want to record. I do not see the benefit of 4K recording yet!

mugglearchitect said:
Hi! During weekdays, I probably spend an hour or 2 of music while on commute. 3-4 hours of usage (browsing, reading, youtube) when I got home. On weekends, I spend more time on my phone. Probably double of what I do on the weekdays.
About games, I play occasionally, when I got bored or have nothing else to do. Not really heavy games.
And lastly about the camera. I take a lot of photos when I go out, buildings and stuff. Videos: rarely, and I'll use 1080p/720p if I do want to record. I do not see the benefit of 4K recording yet!
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In that case, I can recommend Z3+ wholeheartedly, you won't experience overheating, and phone will serve you perfectly. Expect 4-5h off SOT per day depending on usage, mobile data usage, brightness etc...
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mugglearchitect said:
Good day!
I've been looking for a new device to buy as a replacement for my Z1 compact. I have considered the Z5 and this phone.
I liked the Z5 at first. It has arguably better camera and has dual heat pipes. I think after that they're almost the same. But Z5 is still ~$120 more expensive than the Z3+ here in our country. So I'm picking between the two.
I have been reading a lot, and it is always conflicting. Some say overheating issue in Z3+ is gone, some not. I've been trying to fully desire the Z3+, but I'm just scared my money will go to waste if I have a device I can barely use.
There are already similar threads but those were a year ago. So my question is, is this still worth buying? Can I have some assurance that this phone will not heat up and become useless? I want a phone that can stay with me for at least 2 years. Thank you in advance for the help.
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Go for it. As per your usage pattern you wont have any problem. If youre an audiophile then youll love it.

djurkash said:
In that case, I can recommend Z3+ wholeheartedly, you won't experience overheating, and phone will serve you perfectly. Expect 4-5h off SOT per day depending on usage, mobile data usage, brightness etc...
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Thanks! I rarely use mobile data. Only when I need to. Looks like this is my next!

akashsgpgi said:
Go for it. As per your usage pattern you wont have any problem. If youre an audiophile then youll love it.
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Thanks! Did your phone come with a good set of earphones, or should I buy a better one?

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Thanks! Did your phone come with a good set of earphones, or should I buy a better one?
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In India the box came with a crappy headset. better to buy a good pair of earphones or headphones.

mugglearchitect said:
Thanks! Did your phone come with a good set of earphones, or should I buy a better one?
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Check in this post what I've grabbed, but different regions get different packages, there are members that went even better than me...
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Check in this post what I've grabbed, but different regions get different packages, there are members that went even better than me...
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Wow, you're one lucky man!

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Wow, you're one lucky man!
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Heh, I bought sbh54 afterwards, and I believe I'll eventually keep them instead of nc31...if you're closer, I would give them to you at bargain price...
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djurkash said:
Heh, I bought sbh54 afterwards, and I believe I'll eventually keep them instead of nc31...if you're closer, I would give them to you at bargain price...
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I'm from the other side of the world though, haha. SBH... oh bluetooth. You didn't experience any drops? Does it consume too much battery?

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I'm from the other side of the world though, haha. SBH... oh bluetooth. You didn't experience any drops? Does it consume too much battery?
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I am still testing, in my usage pattern it will last 2-3 days which is totally ok. Once so far I had connection issues, will see if it's going to repeat, but, so far so good...
What I like with them is notification party, ease of use, even this possibility to answer using the main unit only...
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Check in this post what I've grabbed, but different regions get different packages, there are members that went even better than me...
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In my country I didn't even get any earphones at all. [emoji23]
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mugglearchitect said:
I'm from the other side of the world though, haha. SBH... oh bluetooth. You didn't experience any drops? Does it consume too much battery?
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I drive 300 miles (4 1/2 hours) on Mondays and Thursdays for business. I stream music the whole way (Pandora) connected via bluetooth to my car with the screen off. I typically reach my destination having used 15 - 20% of the battery life. I find that acceptable.

akashsgpgi said:
Go for it. As per your usage pattern you wont have any problem. If youre an audiophile then youll love it.
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good wishes.....i think this is the r8 place to ask....i am confused on z3 and z3+ ...i want to buy a z3+ as it is way bette than z3......but i am afraid abou the heating issue. ....but i have heard that the heating issue is gone after marshmallow update ..is this true......??? plz suggest me buddies.....
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Thanks! I rarely use mobile data. Only when I need to. Looks like this is my next!
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In my country, price difference between the two is 20eur in favor of Z3. I wouldn't say Z3+ is way better, it is better but Z3's biggest advantage is battery. If you can live with 4h SOT vs. 6h, then go for Z3+. Heating issues are past, I am not playing games to comment that part, but for experimenting I took once long 4K video, and it recorded 10 minutes with small temperature raise, when I stopped forget recording. And that temperature increase was not higher than charging schedule or some longer browsing etc...
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djurkash said:
@riasat.sheikh
In my country, price difference between the two is 20eur in favor of Z3. I wouldn't say Z3+ is way better, it is better but Z3's biggest advantage is battery. If you can live with 4h SOT vs. 6h, then go for Z3+. Heating issues are past, I am not playing games to comment that part, but for experimenting I took once long 4K video, and it recorded 10 minutes with small temperature raise, when I stopped forget recording. And that temperature increase was not higher than charging schedule or some longer browsing etc...
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i dnt need battery much 4h is way best for me....as i use my mbl only for multimedia....and not so much use.....sometimes i play games and 4k i dnt use at all...1080p is good for me....so u suggest me z3+ or should i buy any other xperia device...
and also is the z3+ future secure i mean for official android updates....as i saw z3 gets updates faster it got android N preview also
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I don't know what are prices for each of these...For instance, I would even go to Z5 if it isn't pricier more than 80 euro vs. Z3+
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djurkash said:
I don't know what are prices for each of these...For instance, I would even go to Z5 if it isn't pricier more than 80 euro vs. Z3+
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z5 is out of my budget.....as z3+ is INR 26000 but z5 is INR 39000 so i cnt buy that.....i am thinking for z3+ as it is somewhat better than z3 ...but what do u suggest me bro
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It seems the heating issue has not been resolved

This is really bad from Sony. Marketing a phone for having the best camera yet people cannot use for more than a few minutes before it crashes.
Check this out...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNweHTAVUg4

ali_bobo said:
This is really bad from Sony. Marketing a phone for having the best camera yet people cannot use for more than a few minutes before it crashes.
Check this out...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNweHTAVUg4
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And no 4k capabilities anymore is confirmed?
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Bull.
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...ted-with-New-Style-Covers/td-p/1122372/page/2
I only got a message after stopping the recording after 40 minutes, and even then it wasn't a shutdown message.
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Hardly a fair comparison against a s7, he also clearly states that he's played games on the xperia x for over a hour before hand this is more like Samsung promotion than the xperia x review

No heating issues whatsoever here... neither with gaming nor camera usage

Ok I have now bought the phone. Safe to say that the above Video is BS.
Please ignore this thread or close.
Thanks

Told ya lol
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Off topic:
The OP thread video link, His video has been changed to private instead public lol.
Btw, It's nice 1080p @ 60fps without overheat, But I'l pick Xperia X Performance.

So would I, if I had the choice...
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I have jave the heat issues but only hete on holiday in the blistering heat outside in direct sunlight!! Theres nothing wrong with this phone. Relax people unless youre in 40 degree celcius heat!
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heats even after Nougat
Hey guys!
I bought Xperia X three days ago through flipkart at very good discount. Updated it to Nougat immediately. May 2017 patch is also installed now.
The problem is ... clicking few random 23 MP or 20 MP pictures would heat the phone up (heat not warm!!!) Like i cannot take it near to my ear to take the call. Had to hold it a bit away from my ear. This was in the morning at around 11 am where the temperature at my place was around 38 to 43 deg celsius.
Then to test when i was in office (where there is AC), i started recording video (full hd at 30 fps). After around 2 to 3 minutes, the phone started heating up. The heat was not like it was in the morning but was 15% lesser.
I installed an app now on my phone and it shows 40 degree celsius. Nothing is running in the background, just the app and mobile data enabled (4g and volte).
So is there any solution for this heating problem or is it a known thing?
Please help me coz i have 7 more days to return the phone but i am half hearted to lose it.
Dont even know which phone to chose to other than iphone which never saw heating issue in the circumstances mentioned above. iphones are a bit pricey..cant go for it