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In articles released today, Nvidia said the Tegra 3 chipset will support miracast (an open streaming tech similar to DLNA) for mirroing/streaming to other devices/ monitors. Will the Nexus support this and would this be their workaround for forgoing the MHL/HDMI? Or would it only be on future models? -Ara
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AraDreamer said:
In articles released today, Nvidia said the Tegra 3 chipset will support miracast (an open streaming tech similar to DLNA) for mirroing/streaming to other devices/ monitors. Will the Nexus support this and would this be their workaround for forgoing the MHL/HDMI? Or would it only be on future models? -Ara
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I'm very curious about this too.
I've looked into this briefly and from what I gather, any device that supports WIFI direct should be able to do this. I think I read somewhere that the N7 has wifi direct. Miracast is only a standard. There are other non-standard devices out there that can also do the same thing, but requires changes to the core android files.
Search for xbounds on youtube and the internet. You will see some demos of it. it requires an hdmi dongle that has wifi on it that communicates with your device.
In any event, if the N7 doesn't support miracast, it will support xbounds via a custom ROM (if and when somebody decides to build a custom ROM with xbounds integrated). Then all that is required is the xbounds dongle. Unfortunately, there is not much information on xbounds and when it will be released.
What would I need to purchase to get this working?
Hopefully, we don't need to buy stuff, we just need to update our devices when miracast comes down. There's a list of compatible devices on the Wi-Fi Alliance website. -Ara
EDIT: here's a link to the tegra explanation of miracast, taken from an article on the issue. Yeah, a dangle may be involved depending on the setup. http://www.nvidia.com/content/PDF/tegra_white_papers/tegra-miracast-whitepaper-final.pdf
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I've not found any hardware that you could plug into say an HTML Monitor that will work with this yet. I do think it will be coming available soon though.
hope so
I reckon it will work with a Nexus 7. Hopefully the dongle isn't too expensive and my Nexus 7 will be my new PSone.
Shouldn't need a dongle. Maybe a Raspberry Pi but everyone should have one of those anyway Search "Android Transporter" for more info.
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Nexus Q might get Miracast support
Nexus 7 and most Tegra 3 (also Galaxy S3) phones/tablets can get a fw upgrade to enable miracast (most that support WIFI Direct probably can have Miracast enabled).
Now that google is having another round of tinkering on the Nexus Q before release we might end up with Miracast support in it as well.
Personaly I think Miracast will be added out of the box and maybee even Google TV.
I only hope that it won't be possible to disable mirroring from inside an app using the API, if so I'm sure some streaming services will disable mirroring of the screen while using there apps lika HBO Go have done to Airplay
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Shouldn't need a dongle. Maybe a Raspberry Pi but everyone should have one of those anyway Search "Android Transporter" for more info.
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Using a Raspberry Pi would be like a dongle... I'd like to get my hands on one to play, currently, there is a 12 week delivery time on those as well and you most likely would want it in some sort of case for it as well.
While most likely a solution, not a real clean one for mass marketing. That will come though.
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Now that google is having another round of tinkering on the Nexus Q before release we might end up with Miracast support in it as well.
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Hopefully it does include support, but that is still a bit pricey and also not very portable.
Think of something you put in your briefcase, take out for a meeting, plug into the HDMI port of whatever display is in the room and play. So it needs to be portable, reasonably priced and easy to use out of the box without a lot of fiddling with it.
widi and Miracast adapters
I am thinking that these will do what we need on the display side. Now to enable it on the Nexus 7.
Netgear announces Push2TV WiDi adapter and three new NeoTV units
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Using a Raspberry Pi would be like a dongle... I'd like to get my hands on one to play, currently, there is a 12 week delivery time on those as well and you most likely would want it in some sort of case for it as well.
While most likely a solution, not a real clean one for mass marketing. That will come though.
Hopefully it does include support, but that is still a bit pricey and also not very portable.
Think of something you put in your briefcase, take out for a meeting, plug into the HDMI port of whatever display is in the room and play. So it needs to be portable, reasonably priced and easy to use out of the box without a lot of fiddling with it.
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Has anyone heard any updated news on miracast? I tried Google but all I found was old news. I'm really tired of waiting.
Hey guys,
has anybody experience with Miracast on the Nexus 10 or Android 4.2? I'm going to get an Adapter for my TV and I'm not sure how that works... haven't found any Miracast-related options in the settings app, and I don't know how the whole stuff with wifi is working (is the bandwidth of wifi high enough for that high resolution? How will the Nexus scale its 2650px down to the 1920 of my TV? ...).
Thanks
Currently nexus 10 is not miracast capable. Many people think it will be later, but since there might be bus bandwith issues i dont think it will.
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Check this thread out if you want to learn more: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1989513
Practical testing: Miracast with Nexus 10
There was quite of bit of discussion/speculation back on Nov-Dec on whether, how, and when Nexus 10 would support Miracast. I recently did some testing to support an app I'm developing, and wanted to: give an update on practical test results, and see if anyone has any further information (since none is forthcoming from google so far).
I tested Miracast links using Netgear's PTV3000 (Push2TV):
Samsung S3 - WORKS, after an upgrade to their latest PTV3000 firmware (v.2.2.9)
Google Nexus 10 - Does not work.
Google Galaxy Nexus - Does not work.
This is consistent with a recent posting on AndroidCentral ("Netgear PTV3000 gets a firmware update, now officially supports host of Android devices"). I'm interested in running on as many devices as possible, including the Nexus tablets and phones, but still can't find any information on plans and timing for Nexus 10, for example.
Anyone?
Hello,
Just today I found out about ASUS Device Tracker website. I registered and but it wasn't accepting my serial number of my device. So I spoke with a Live Online Chat tech support.
I questioned the support if this tracking is done via software implemented by Asus, and support said yes.
So I asked, is it only for actual Asus products like Transformer and such or does it include Nexus 7 aswell? Support told me that it does include Nexus 7 aswell.
So I asked again, if even the pure android (factory image) for Nexus 7 can be tracked because it has Asus's custom software implemented into the firmware. Support told me yes.
Is this true? Since this tracking software is already built-in, (if true),,, that means it's got a built in backdoor (sort of) ???
On what level of software is this code implemented? Because even custom ROMs could be tracked?
Just asking this question... so hear what you guys have to say about it.
Thanks.
It's probably in XT9IME.apk or most likely in UserInfoWidget.apk
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Hi guys, in future it will be possible install sailfish on nexus 6p? There is a porting for my device?
Efforts to port to this device are in progress but there are some issues that still need to be solved.
I've been a fan of the Jolla Sailfish project for a long time; I think it's a great alternative to Google's bastardisation of what was once a free and open Android.
Any plans for porting to the Nexus 5X (bullhead)? As great as the 6P is, not everyone can afford it
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I've been a fan of the Jolla Sailfish project for a long time; I think it's a great alternative to Google's bastardisation of what was once a free and open Android.
Any plans for porting to the Nexus 5X (bullhead)? As great as the 6P is, not everyone can afford it
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I know someone (@ghosalmartin) who's working on it but there are some problems regarding the 64-bit architecture of the chip on this device.
I would love to have a Sailfish OS port for my Nexus 6P. I very much enjoyed using it on my ol' Nexus 5, it was very fluid and the gesture navigation was genius!
Hi, is it news on sailfish os to nexus 2015?
Anything new on this port to the Nexus 6p ? Im about done with google
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DAC.IT said:
Anything new on this port to the Nexus 6p ? Im about done with google
same here. I've been searching but it's an unhappy coincidence that the Nexus 6 is codename sailfish, so most search results are red herrings
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Download links here: http://llabtoofer.com/2016/10/09/pixel-and-pixel-xl-system-image/
Any dev willing to port Google Pixel android ROM to Nexus 6?
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Download links here: http://llabtoofer.com/2016/10/09/pixel-and-pixel-xl-system-image/
Any dev willing to port Google Pixel android ROM to Nexus 6?
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Already tried to dump APKs, almost everything is for arm64, i think ports will not be such a thing. The included launcher and wallpaper picker are 32bit tho, but are the same as those leaked before, with a different signature tho
Unfortunate if true. I was curious what might be ported to the N6.
Someone can Im sure, and hopefully integrate Google assistant into our roms, that's the only thing I want, pixel launcher is already on my phone
Does anybody have an extractable system image, where I can pull alarms, ringtones, notifications and the SystemUI and Framework? I wouldn't mind getting ahold of that new battery icon.
I was able to unrar the images posted via that link and was able to simply ext4fuse mount them. No need to run through sim2img it appears. The media ringtones and notifications appear to be the same files that were released back in August.
file *.img
system.img: Linux rev 1.0 ext4 filesystem data, UUID=bbcb9ad2-245d-035f-a549-7d500312efe1 (extents) (large files)
system_other.img: Linux rev 1.0 ext4 filesystem data, UUID=da594c53-9beb-f85c-85c5-cedf76546f7a, volume name "system" (extents) (large files)
@Yasharkhan: I don't think Google Assistant will ever appear on the Nexus 6, for a very simple reason: the 32/64-bit divide. The Pixel/Pixel XL devices run a 64-bit Snapdragon 821 while the Snapdragon 805 in the Nexus 6 is only a 32-bit processor. 64-bit processors can run 32-bit apps, as evident by the Pixel launcher being a 32-bit app in a 64-bit system, but 32-bit processors cannot run 64-bit apps. If Google makes the Google Assistant a 64-bit app and does not create a 32-bit version, even if we could install it on the Nexus 6 it won't run. Since the Assistant is not an open source app, no one would be able to build a 32-bit version that would run on the Nexus 6.
I'd like to be wrong on this one, but the Assistant is an exclusive that only the 5X and 6P are going to get, if Google decides to provide it.
absolutely correct!
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
@Yasharkhan: I don't think Google Assistant will ever appear on the Nexus 6, for a very simple reason: the 32/64-bit divide. The Pixel/Pixel XL devices run a 64-bit Snapdragon 821 while the Snapdragon 805 in the Nexus 6 is only a 32-bit processor. 64-bit processors can run 32-bit apps, as evident by the Pixel launcher being a 32-bit app in a 64-bit system, but 32-bit processors cannot run 64-bit apps. If Google makes the Google Assistant a 64-bit app and does not create a 32-bit version, even if we could install it on the Nexus 6 it won't run. Since the Assistant is not an open source app, no one would be able to build a 32-bit version that would run on the Nexus 6.
I'd like to be wrong on this one, but the Assistant is an exclusive that only the 5X and 6P are going to get, if Google decides to provide it.
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Interestingly, however, we can already install Allo, which has the Assistant. I don't think I would put it past Google to offer a 32 bit option since the code base for it is already there. 64 bit devices may see it before the N6 simply because someone will port it over to other 64 bit devices from the Pixel. But otherwise, I think Google is going to to play the long game here (maintaining official Pixel exclusivity for a while) and eventually release it for any device that can support API level 24 (?) If memory serves, Now On Tap had this kind of exclusivity when it first appeared with the 6P and 5X
With the Nexus 6 being Google's last 32-bit device, and with the Pixel line being 64-bit only, chances of the N6 getting the Assistant are between slim and none. Allo is not a terribly good example. While it does have an assistant, the assistant supposedly only works in Allo. A big stumbling block in porting the Assistant from Allo would be Google's penchant for encrypting their code.
I would like to be wrong. I'd like to think we'll get the Assistant. However, I don't see it happening.
Is the new launcher a newer version than what has leaked? if so, can it be pulled out, and posted as an APK?
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
With the Nexus 6 being Google's last 32-bit device, and with the Pixel line being 64-bit only, chances of the N6 getting the Assistant are between slim and none. Allo is not a terribly good example. While it does have an assistant, the assistant supposedly only works in Allo. A big stumbling block in porting the Assistant from Allo would be Google's penchant for encrypting their code.
I would like to be wrong. I'd like to think we'll get the Assistant. However, I don't see it happening.
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I don't mean that we will see a "port" to 32 bit devices. I mean we may see official Google support sometime in the 7.x lifetime. As long as the N6 receives official 7.1 and up (which according to what I read today, the N6 may not. 7.1 will only go to devices that can support Daydream... and unless there is indeed official support for Vulcan (different argument entirely...and I don't mean developer support like Qualcomm has insinuated will be possible)), the N6 may not see 7.1 onwards.
I guess I need to upgrade to a 6p, to take advantage of a lot of the future apps.
We won't see official support, as it's not in Google's best interests to support a device that is two years old with a feature that is an exclusive on the Pixel/Pixel XL. The 32/64-bit divide is a convenient excuse to not provide the Assistant. Same goes for Vulkan.
We won't be seeing Android 7.1 anytime soon, if ever. Google has apparently not released any code related to 7.1.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
We won't see official support, as it's not in Google's best interests to support a device that is two years old with a feature that is an exclusive on the Pixel/Pixel XL. The 32/64-bit divide is a convenient excuse to not provide the Assistant. Same goes for Vulkan.
We won't be seeing Android 7.1 anytime soon, if ever. Google has apparently not released any code related to 7.1.
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That's more or less what I've been saying.
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That's more or less what I've been saying.
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No. What you said is that Google may provide official support to the N6 at some point. I said they won't provide any such support, and provided reasons as to why. How you could draw a conclusion that I said essentially the same thing as you is unknown.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
No. What you said is that Google may provide official support to the N6 at some point. I said they won't provide any such support, and provided reasons as to why. How you could draw a conclusion that I said essentially the same thing as you is unknown.
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Here is my last comment. Please reread it:
I don't mean that we will see a "port" to 32 bit devices. I mean we may see official Google support sometime in the 7.x lifetime. As long as the N6 receives official 7.1 and up (which according to what I read today, the N6 may not. 7.1 will only go to devices that can support Daydream... and unless there is indeed official support for Vulcan (different argument entirely...and I don't mean developer support like Qualcomm has insinuated will be possible)), the N6 may not see 7.1 onwards.
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I've added some highlighting for context. I'm not trying to argue with you. But, this clearly shows that I also doubt that we will see official support... So yes, within context, basically the same thing.
Cheers
Regarding Google assistant for our nexus 6.
Found this mod in Nexus 6P forum and was able to implement it in my Nexus 6 successfully.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/development/mod-google-assistant-stock-nbd90x-t3477868
Did not require flashing/porting anything at all. Must be on any stock or stock based Nougat ROM (I use latest Nutty Nexus by RachetPanda)
Warning : Experiment at your own risk. Editing build.prop may cause your device to not function properly.
My exact steps-
1. Make sure you have Google App (6.5.35.21 or newer)
2. Add ro.opa.eligible_device=true to the end of your build.prop
3. Edit build.prop and change ro.product.model=Nexus 6 to ro.product.model=Pixel
4. Clear Google App data and remove your Google account.
5. Reboot.
6. After reboot add your google account and activate Now on Tap. This will walk you through setting up Google Assistant
Bugs : Encountered none so far.
Well, contrary to what we have been saying, Google just officially said that the N6 will indeed get 7.1
And near the end is this line:
"...in early December, we’ll roll out updates to the full lineup of supported devices — Nexus 6, 5X, 6P, 9, Player, Pixel C, and supported Android One devices..."