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Are you going to sell your Z1 and get a Z2?

Now that the Z2 has been fully revealed, I was wondering how many Z1 owners were thinking of switching to the Z2 once it comes out. Both are so similar specs wise that for some it wouldn't make sense to make the leap.
For me, I'm probably going to stay with the Z1. The display is the only thing drawing me to the Z2 but I can't justify paying so much money just for better viewing angles. The rest of the software features like 4K recroding and tap2wake are going to be ported to the Z1 officially or through the devs so the gap between the Z1 and Z2 will be very small.
Thoughts?
note: This is only for people thinking about getting the Z2, and not another phone

The Z2 is a good choice for those who are coming from other brands.
I think it's not worth to sell our Z1 and get the Z2 (well if you want to always have the latest phone, go) as spec wise there is little improvement on the hardware. Lets wait for Z3 and see what it will offer.
Currently happy with my Z1, just the camera brings disappointment. Peace
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Hell no. I don't see any major upgrades that could justified the change.
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Well I was thinking about this too and here is my opinion: SONY has huge problems with phone overheating starting from S, Z, Z1 .. Almost all the phones have small defects for example camera button is very loose and it's a bit hard to take a picture without handshake on keypress, then my volume button became very strange it's like going to fall of, when I slightly press on it it feels like it was outside and then returned to its position, I mean that SONY has to think about build quality rather than releasing new flagship twice a month But from the other side there are no normal phones, I was thinking of Nexus 5 and G2 but I didn't like G2 UI and Nexus 5 Camera because it takes strictly 4:3 ... And as usual I'll say that I wont buy SONY again but probably will buy SONY

Sony makes new flagships all the time... perhaps i will wait a couple of flagships before i buy another one

No way! I have to keep my money for nearly a year to get Z1. LOL. I'm very happy with Z1 tho, it's a decent device. There are a lot of proud and pride for having this device. Z2 don't have too big differences compares to Z1 tho, I think stick with Z1 and wait for new generation of Z family (perhaps Z3 or Z4) will be the best choice
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This upgrade is mainly for Original Z users
The upgrade for us Z1 users is coming by the end of the year, im pretty sure
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If sony gives most software features then No, but if sony dont give features then my z1 then probably
Lähetetty minun C6903 laitteesta

no point
i will probably wait for Z3, and if that thing doesnt have decent developer support after a month or two i am going with whatever nexus phone is out by then.

I'm thinking about it since the Z1s may or may not get root. There's a few people working on it. But, for me, I'm thinking of the possibility of us not getting root. I'd sell my Z1s to help by the global Z2. With the Z1s coming out about a month ago. Is it reasonable to ask for $500 or could I go higher?
Anybody know for sure whether or not the global phones will work on T-Mo USA's data bands?

albertobom said:
Hell no. I don't see any major upgrades that could justified the change.
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Agree! :good:

kantk20111 said:
Now that the Z2 has been fully revealed, I was wondering how many Z1 owners were thinking of switching to the Z2 once it comes out. Both are so similar specs wise that for some it wouldn't make sense to make the leap.
For me, I'm probably going to stay with the Z1. The display is the only thing drawing me to the Z2 but I can't justify paying so much money just for better viewing angles. The rest of the software features like 4K recroding and tap2wake are going to be ported to the Z1 officially or through the devs so the gap between the Z1 and Z2 will be very small.
Thoughts?
note: This is only for people thinking about getting the Z2, and not another phone
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Not Upgrading to a Z2, because,
1. I don't care about 4K, althoughit may be ported in the future. I hardly record video's in 1080P ...
2. Marginal Performance difference with a slightly faster Adreno 330 isnt. There is nothing available on the Playstore that needs more performance than a 2.15 Krait 400 with a 450 mhz Adreno 330 can deliver anyway.
3. Camera stuff will probably be ported in the future, even if it isn't I'm not fussed about it. It's just icing on the cake.
lol,
4. Don't care about Viewing angles because I look at my phon straight one, not at an awkward angle,
lol,
5. the pixel density is actually higher on the Z1, it's sharper,
6. another 200mah on the battery is a joke over he Z1's 3000mah ...
regards

Hey guys... no ASF on the Z2. I'll update later as to what type of glass. I'll be making plans on switching.

negrobembon said:
This upgrade is mainly for Original Z users
The upgrade for us Z1 users is coming by the end of the year, im pretty sure
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Hope so,
anything less than a Snapdragon 805 processor and Adreno 420 isn't gonna cut the Mustard ...
hope they make the phone a bit smaller, otherwise we'll end up with a phablet at this rate ...
lol,

Nope.
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raziel123 said:
Not Upgrading to a Z2, because,
lol,
5. the pixel density is actually higher on the Z1, it's sharper,
regards
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Agree with most of your points, but the display of the Z2 is a lot better than the Z1's. The loss of sharpness is negligible, but the new IPS screen tech is less washed out than the Z1's TFT screen.

They didn't even did something about those borders around the screen, OIS for camera or something that worth thinking about an upgrade. Small improvements compared to my beloved Z1. It's not worth buying a new flagship at least until a year or two.

Mine is two weeks old. So I wont buy a new one. I'm not a millionaire and I'm absolutly satisfied with this one!!!!
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Never!!!!!!!
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Not a chance.
I find it a waste to upgrade to the Z2 if you already own a Z1.
I think that the Z2 will be the perfect phone to upgrade to if you are coming from another OEM, or you are coming from an Xperia device from 2011/2012.
Our Z1 is more than up to the task and in time it will have a community comparable to the flagships that came before it, like the original Xperia flagship, the X10 :highfive:

Will you upgrade from Z2 to Z3

So far though not official yet, according to GSMarena, the specs doesn't look too good at least for me to upgrade to the Z3. Base hardwarewise is basically the same... kind of dissapointed me
Unless they put some significant changes as Z1->Z2, i think this time i won't upgrade but maybe wait for the Z4
http://www.gsmarena.com/xperia_z3_benchmarks_leak_showing_it_has_the_z2_specs-news-9315.php

No, I'm under contract for two years so no way.

Nope, wait for Z4 with Android L

El.Guaje said:
Nope, wait for Z4 with Android L
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What's android L
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I probably will trade in my Z2 for a Z3 compact. That was the idea from the beginning. Needed a new phone but couldn't wait. So I bought the Z2 hoping by the time the Z3 got released someone would want to trade. And if not. Maybe I'll keep the Z2 or maybe I'll sell it and get the Z3c myself.
But a normal Z2 to Z3, nah for what!? My only problem with phones nowadays is the size. Way too large for normal use IMHO.

sofia-captivate said:
What's android L
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Next version of Android.

After the Z2/M8 I would get something with UHD not QHD and with 5.5-5.7inch screen without much bezel. The 805 is only good in the GPU department and even then 1440p/420 is equal to 1080p/330. So my next phone might be iPhone 7 or Z5-Z7

Nope, Z2 is a very good phone for me. Z3 has not much extra's

Die Bruine said:
I probably will trade in my Z2 for a Z3 compact. That was the idea from the beginning. Needed a new phone but couldn't wait. So I bought the Z2 hoping by the time the Z3 got released someone would want to trade. And if not. Maybe I'll keep the Z2 or maybe I'll sell it and get the Z3c myself.
But a normal Z2 to Z3, nah for what!? My only problem with phones nowadays is the size. Way too large for normal use IMHO.
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My thoughts are exactly the same, if I gonna switch it, it's gonna be for z3 compact only,
but not sure yet, have to see what does z3c offers over z2 except size-wise

With Sony's 6 month release cycle it's pretty hard to keep up especially if they are just making nominal and incremental changes. If they go with the 2k screen they better up the batter from the z2.
I'm going to be staying with the z2. Just found it after almost the entire year trying out other phones and I'm loving it.
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Nope.
Only slightly faster CPU and uglier design IMO (love the design of stereo speakers and LED notification of Z2)

This time, no.
It's almost the same phone...

If Z3 doesn't have a 5.5 inch screen then I'll get the note 4
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The only new thing is the ''design'' xD. So Nooo thank you.Sticking to my Z2 <3 This 6 month cycle is a complete crap if you ask me :/

No Z3 for me if there is nothing new. For now Z2 has better design.

Not at all, mainly because right now I'm more keen to switch back to a Nexus device, and also the improvements from Z2 to Z3 shouldnt be too great a reason to make the upgrade.

IMHO, Z3 is mainly meant for "new" buyers that are coming from older Sony (Sony Ericsson) devices or other brands and they are intend to buy a flag ship this autumn/winter.
Of course, also those ones who must have the latest and newest are welcome

I'm staying with z2 for awhile

There hasn't been as much in the way of leaks as previous devices. I can only hope there's some amazing improvement we've not been told about.
Because for now it seems that it might be a bit more rounded at the edges, maybe have a smaller bezel and that's about it.
Wireless charging would be nice as a new addition, but otherwise what could a Z2 possibly get that would make a swap worthwhile?
I realise I said that with the Z2 over the Z1 but it turned out the screen was a lot better, physically bigger and the front facing speakers a massive leap. So all the must have changes have already happened.
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ravdo said:
Nope.
Only slightly faster CPU and uglier design IMO (love the design of stereo speakers and LED notification of Z2)
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This!
Actually if one year from now and still not much has changed I'd even stay put then. There aren't many phones that appeal to me like the Z2. It's downright sexy, screen is now tolerable with the viewing angles and it is just the right size for me. All I would personally change is either 32/64 internal as my games are a few gigs and an amoled screen. I just got too used to the oversaturation of them.

Xperia Z3 & Z3C revealed on Youtube!

Here are the links guys!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9jclylKric
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kC3JMSZDL48
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzFc5zGMjCk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG_bc1mEcJY
Smartwatch 3 too!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFsWDJSh3T0

The PS4 remote play sounds great. I wonder if that will work for all playstation functionality (eg I could watch video on it)
The Z3 compact sounds nice too.

Z3 compact is like wow... Definitely my next phone!

vibecatalin said:
Z3 compact is like wow... Definitely my next phone!
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There is not very specs difference between Z3 and Z3C .
So I would vote for Z3! Bigger screen
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Yea. But if price is a good margin means i will vote for Z3 Compact ..

to be honest I dont find this much different other then faster CPU and Additional RAM
will continue using Xperia Z till its last breath maybe something will pop up in the future that will change my mind :fingers-crossed:
Snapdragon 810

Would be kinda cool od Sony would release a DualSIM version od the XZ series for the European market. XZ is a very good phone, but i'm tired of using two phones (I have a work and private phone). So if they would release a DualSIM flag phone I would buy it.

This is really stupid. 3 flagships later the things are almost the same.
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Regretted switching from z2

I bought the Z3 due to its advanced features such as the camera and the hi-res audio. In the end, Z2 got ALL the key features from Z3 today after a software update. Quite pissed off
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you get a phone with sexier design and better battery life!

Lets hope the next firmware for z3 can pull the gap between Z2 & Z3. Both phones are too similar in specs and almost the same in Software!!
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Better battery life too, coming from a Z1, the Z3 is definitely worth the upgrade
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Z1 to Z3 maybe a big upgrade but Z2 to Z3 is not worth it, you should have waited for Z4 which comes Feb/Mar with major changes.

abhinav.tella said:
Z1 to Z3 maybe a big upgrade but Z2 to Z3 is not worth it, you should have waited for Z4 which comes Feb/Mar with major changes.
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Z4 will be nice, but screen size will be bigger though (5.5" expected).

hanime said:
Z4 will be nice, but screen size though.
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Rumors are its QHD, I hope not because they did the same with the G3 and it took a big hit in battery life compared to the G2, for not much gain in visual quality, not to mention increased heat due the display causing overheating.

abhinav.tella said:
Rumors are its QHD, I hope not because they did the same with the G3 and it took a big hit in battery life compared to the G2, for not much gain in visual quality, not to mention increased heat due the display causing overheating.
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And QHD is basically useless as far as I can tell on a smartphone screen (even at 6"). Our eyes can only distinguish so much.

finoqq84 said:
I bought the Z3 due to its advanced features such as the camera and the hi-res audio. In the end, Z2 got ALL the key features from Z3 today after a software update. Quite pissed off
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I myself was thinking about z2 over z3, but the z3 was made to cover up all the bads of z2
Screen brightness what i saw on z2 wasn't anything special, it's much brighter on z3
Speakers are louder
Sleeker body, aluminium frame
Better snapdragon 801 chip
And much more
The only downgrade i found out was i cannot write with a pencil on the z3

Coming from the z ultra, i had considered both Z2 and z3. I know much of the new things are software enhancements only and will likely go down to the z2 as well.
However I decided on the z3 because it looks and feels so much nicer
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That's why I went from the Z1 to the Z2 instead for the Z3, I got almost the same phone and I bought new headphones and 128gb SD card with the money saved ?
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This is just an cycle, when Z4 comes out, Z3 will scream for Z4 features and why Sony port it, Z4 users will be pissed.
So does who are disappointed :
Can I confirm you guys will not rant if Sony didn't bring Z4 features to Z3??
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As someone who upgraded from the Z2 to the Z3, I'm really glad to see Sony supporting their devices and backporting the features that they can. It takes nothing away from the Z3 and improves the brand overall.

se1000 said:
As someone who upgraded from the Z2 to the Z3, I'm really glad to see Sony supporting their devices and backporting the features that they can. It takes nothing away from the Z3 and improves the brand overall.
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Well stated, I also upgraded from Z2 to Z3 and will upgrade to Z4 when it arrives. I have a large family and they appreciate the hand downs

augie7107 said:
Well stated, I also upgraded from Z2 to Z3 and will upgrade to Z4 when it arrives. I have a large family and they appreciate the hand downs
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You're lucky, lol.

Sorry this is not relevant, but where did you guys get the Z3? I'm so confused now, I don't even know where to buy it

bluesky2111 said:
Sorry this is not relevant, but where did you guys get the Z3? I'm so confused now, I don't even know where to buy it
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Which carrier are you on?

Upgraded from Z1 to Z3 seems a better deal than Z2 to Z3. The specs of 2 and 3 are so similar!!!
I am still using my Z1 btw because I rooted my Z1 to allow me to move stuff to SD cards, now waitjng for easy 1click ways to root Z3

I also upgraded from z2 to z3. I wouldnt really upgrade tbh if my contract would not end few weeks ago, and I can really tell that it is a little upgrade only on paper. Phone looks and feels much better, its thinnier and lighter, and rounded sides make holding it more comfortable. I could not live without root so I unlocked a bootloader and rooted it, and camera is still good enough for me. The only thing that pisses me of is that ps4 remote play doesnt work with unlocked bootloader

I also upgraded from z2 to z3. I wouldnt really upgrade tbh if my contract would not end few weeks ago, and I can really tell that it is a little upgrade only on paper. Phone looks and feels much better, its thinnier and lighter, and rounded sides make holding it more comfortable. I could not live without root so I unlocked a bootloader and rooted it, and camera is still good enough for me. The only thing that pisses me of is that ps4 remote play doesnt work with unlocked bootloader
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How about improved battery life?

New firm 32.2.A.0.224 (6.0.1)

We finally is imminent , the output of the new firm 32.2.A.0.224 in Sony Developer Open source archives

Screenshots?
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Just have it checked on XperiFirm and seems no update. That may come soon. Thanks for your post
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About time.

It's only here atm:
http://developer.sonymobile.com/dow...rchives/open-source-archive-for-32-2-a-0-224/

thesebastian said:
It's only here atm:
http://developer.sonymobile.com/dow...rchives/open-source-archive-for-32-2-a-0-224/
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You will see that soon will come out .....

Does anyone know the delay between the firmware being posted on developers.sonymobile.com and the first regions getting the OTA? Have been hunting for a Galaxy S6 to replace this horrible device but hopefully an update soon may change my mind.

imhuy said:
Does anyone know the delay between the firmware being posted on developers.sonymobile.com and the first regions getting the OTA? Have been hunting for a Galaxy S6 to replace this horrible device but hopefully an update soon may change my mind.
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Stick around a few more days and find a killer deal on an s6. I don't have much faith that this update will be ground breaking

imhuy said:
Does anyone know the delay between the firmware being posted on developers.sonymobile.com and the first regions getting the OTA? Have been hunting for a Galaxy S6 to replace this horrible device but hopefully an update soon may change my mind.
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You'd be disappointed to know that the S6 now performs very poorly on the latest software versions. I don't think it's worth it at all. Still, you should research a bit about this before you make the final decision. Just a heads up
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http://support.sonymobile.com/global-en/xperiaz5/software/
here you can see official release dates of the latest firmware
its still 185
i guess 224 will come very soon according to this

Sadman Khan said:
You'd be disappointed to know that the S6 now performs very poorly on the latest software versions. I don't think it's worth it at all. Still, you should research a bit about this before you make the final decision. Just a heads up
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imhuy said:
Does anyone know the delay between the firmware being posted on developers.sonymobile.com and the first regions getting the OTA? Have been hunting for a Galaxy S6 to replace this horrible device but hopefully an update soon may change my mind.
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There is no way I'll buy another Xperia in the future (Z5 Compact is being enough for me). But I said the same thing years ago with Samsung (after having a Galaxy S3) and I'm sticking to that.
I still prefer Xperia over Touchwiz. (Despite of Xperia cameras, which are terrible...only good for landscapes and wide daily photos).
For me, the best experience in Android is the nexus family.
I'll probably switch from a Z5C to a 5X one of these days....and keep it for a few months till the new nexus is released.
(I used a 5X last month and I regret the decision of leaving the Nexus family to try the Xperia family).
I'll have to sacrifice the size and the HD display of course.

thesebastian said:
There is no way I'll buy another Xperia in the future (Z5 Compact is being enough for me). But I said the same thing years ago with Samsung (after having a Galaxy S3) and I'm sticking to that.
I still prefer Xperia over Touchwiz. (Despite of Xperia cameras, which are terrible...only good for landscapes and wide daily photos).
For me, the best experience in Android is the nexus family.
I'll probably switch from a Z5C to a 5X one of these days....and keep it for a few months till the new nexus is released.
(I used a 5X last month and I regret the decision of leaving the Nexus family to try the Xperia family).
I'll have to sacrifice the size and the HD display of course.
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No I'm not asking you to go for another Xperia. I'm just asking you to not go for the S6 lol. You should wait out and maybe buy an S7 or the next Nexus. 5X is pretty good yes but the battery life is horrid
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Sadman Khan said:
No I'm not asking you to go for another Xperia. I'm just asking you to not go for the S6 lol. You should wait out and maybe buy an S7 or the next Nexus. 5X is pretty good yes but the battery life is horrid
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Yeah I just quoted you, to add my point of view over yours.
Regarding the battery life. I find the 5X in a middle point between the Nexus 5 and the Z5 Compact.
Nexus 5 battery life wasn't enough for me. Z5 Compact battery life is more than enough. So 5X should be just enough, and I'll be fine. (Except for the gaming, where the Z5C rules because of the 720p resolution. Luckily Hearthstone is more CPU killer than GPU killer in my experience.).
But yes "battery life efficiency" is the best strength you can find in an Xperia.
I hope this new update (32.2.A.0.224) we're waiting for Z5C solves, at least, these 2 things:
- adaptive brightness gamma colors that get washed under a lot of light.
- the performance issues that appear after 5-10 days without rebooting the phone.

thesebastian said:
Yeah I just quoted you, to add my point of view over yours.[emoji14]
Regarding the battery life. I find the 5X in a middle point between the Nexus 5 and the Z5 Compact.
Nexus 5 battery life wasn't enough for me. Z5 Compact battery life is more than enough. So 5X should be just enough, and I'll be fine. (Except for the gaming, where the Z5C rules because of the 720p resolution. Luckily Hearthstone is more CPU killer than GPU killer in my experience.).
But yes "battery life efficiency" is the best strength you can find in an Xperia.
I hope this new update (32.2.A.0.224) we're waiting for Z5C solves, at least, these 2 things:
- adaptive brightness gamma colors that get washed under a lot of light.
- the performance issues that appear after 5-10 days without rebooting the phone.
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Hoping for the best experience here as well. Let's see what happens. Only matter of a few days now at max
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thesebastian said:
I hope this new update (32.2.A.0.224) we're waiting for Z5C solves, at least, these 2 things:
- adaptive brightness gamma colors that get washed under a lot of light.
- the performance issues that appear after 5-10 days without rebooting the phone.
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You're lucky that you only reboot every 5-10 days. I reboot once or twice a day! If I open Snapchat (yes, the app itself does suck, which makes it even worse), I definitely have to reboot sooner than later. My bluetooth doesn't get picked up half of the time and if I use the phone while listening to music, the sound stutters. It's just not a good experience. The Z3C was light years ahead of the Z5C, which is unfortunate.
On the note of the S6: I've heard quite a bit of praise after M update. One of my closest friends own both the S6 and S7 (both on M) and mentions that they're pretty comparable. Really though, anything but the Z5C is better IMO. Especially since I can most likely get the S6 for the Z5C without losing money. After the S4, I told myself I wouldn't be getting another Galaxy phone but it looks like Samsung really turned it around with the S6 so I'll give them another chance.

E5803 started to receive the update
https://xpericheck.com/device/E5803
E5823 too:
https://xpericheck.com/device/E5823
[email protected]%%ing Sony system to upload the updates......

thesebastian said:
It's only here atm:
http://developer.sonymobile.com/dow...rchives/open-source-archive-for-32-2-a-0-224/
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and how to instal?

Customized IT is out, so i'm updating

thesebastian said:
Customized IT is out, so i'm updating
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I'm expecting a full report within the next 10 minutes... hurry up

Customized AU, Customized IT, Customized SG, CIS RU/UA/KZ/BY and Ireland iD IE currently have the new firmware out.
Hopefully there will be Nordic Combined soon.