We finally is imminent , the output of the new firm 32.2.A.0.224 in Sony Developer Open source archives
Screenshots?
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Just have it checked on XperiFirm and seems no update. That may come soon. Thanks for your post
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About time.
It's only here atm:
http://developer.sonymobile.com/dow...rchives/open-source-archive-for-32-2-a-0-224/
thesebastian said:
It's only here atm:
http://developer.sonymobile.com/dow...rchives/open-source-archive-for-32-2-a-0-224/
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You will see that soon will come out .....
Does anyone know the delay between the firmware being posted on developers.sonymobile.com and the first regions getting the OTA? Have been hunting for a Galaxy S6 to replace this horrible device but hopefully an update soon may change my mind.
imhuy said:
Does anyone know the delay between the firmware being posted on developers.sonymobile.com and the first regions getting the OTA? Have been hunting for a Galaxy S6 to replace this horrible device but hopefully an update soon may change my mind.
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Stick around a few more days and find a killer deal on an s6. I don't have much faith that this update will be ground breaking
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Does anyone know the delay between the firmware being posted on developers.sonymobile.com and the first regions getting the OTA? Have been hunting for a Galaxy S6 to replace this horrible device but hopefully an update soon may change my mind.
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You'd be disappointed to know that the S6 now performs very poorly on the latest software versions. I don't think it's worth it at all. Still, you should research a bit about this before you make the final decision. Just a heads up
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http://support.sonymobile.com/global-en/xperiaz5/software/
here you can see official release dates of the latest firmware
its still 185
i guess 224 will come very soon according to this
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You'd be disappointed to know that the S6 now performs very poorly on the latest software versions. I don't think it's worth it at all. Still, you should research a bit about this before you make the final decision. Just a heads up
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Does anyone know the delay between the firmware being posted on developers.sonymobile.com and the first regions getting the OTA? Have been hunting for a Galaxy S6 to replace this horrible device but hopefully an update soon may change my mind.
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There is no way I'll buy another Xperia in the future (Z5 Compact is being enough for me). But I said the same thing years ago with Samsung (after having a Galaxy S3) and I'm sticking to that.
I still prefer Xperia over Touchwiz. (Despite of Xperia cameras, which are terrible...only good for landscapes and wide daily photos).
For me, the best experience in Android is the nexus family.
I'll probably switch from a Z5C to a 5X one of these days....and keep it for a few months till the new nexus is released.
(I used a 5X last month and I regret the decision of leaving the Nexus family to try the Xperia family).
I'll have to sacrifice the size and the HD display of course.
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There is no way I'll buy another Xperia in the future (Z5 Compact is being enough for me). But I said the same thing years ago with Samsung (after having a Galaxy S3) and I'm sticking to that.
I still prefer Xperia over Touchwiz. (Despite of Xperia cameras, which are terrible...only good for landscapes and wide daily photos).
For me, the best experience in Android is the nexus family.
I'll probably switch from a Z5C to a 5X one of these days....and keep it for a few months till the new nexus is released.
(I used a 5X last month and I regret the decision of leaving the Nexus family to try the Xperia family).
I'll have to sacrifice the size and the HD display of course.
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No I'm not asking you to go for another Xperia. I'm just asking you to not go for the S6 lol. You should wait out and maybe buy an S7 or the next Nexus. 5X is pretty good yes but the battery life is horrid
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Sadman Khan said:
No I'm not asking you to go for another Xperia. I'm just asking you to not go for the S6 lol. You should wait out and maybe buy an S7 or the next Nexus. 5X is pretty good yes but the battery life is horrid
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Yeah I just quoted you, to add my point of view over yours.
Regarding the battery life. I find the 5X in a middle point between the Nexus 5 and the Z5 Compact.
Nexus 5 battery life wasn't enough for me. Z5 Compact battery life is more than enough. So 5X should be just enough, and I'll be fine. (Except for the gaming, where the Z5C rules because of the 720p resolution. Luckily Hearthstone is more CPU killer than GPU killer in my experience.).
But yes "battery life efficiency" is the best strength you can find in an Xperia.
I hope this new update (32.2.A.0.224) we're waiting for Z5C solves, at least, these 2 things:
- adaptive brightness gamma colors that get washed under a lot of light.
- the performance issues that appear after 5-10 days without rebooting the phone.
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Yeah I just quoted you, to add my point of view over yours.[emoji14]
Regarding the battery life. I find the 5X in a middle point between the Nexus 5 and the Z5 Compact.
Nexus 5 battery life wasn't enough for me. Z5 Compact battery life is more than enough. So 5X should be just enough, and I'll be fine. (Except for the gaming, where the Z5C rules because of the 720p resolution. Luckily Hearthstone is more CPU killer than GPU killer in my experience.).
But yes "battery life efficiency" is the best strength you can find in an Xperia.
I hope this new update (32.2.A.0.224) we're waiting for Z5C solves, at least, these 2 things:
- adaptive brightness gamma colors that get washed under a lot of light.
- the performance issues that appear after 5-10 days without rebooting the phone.
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Hoping for the best experience here as well. Let's see what happens. Only matter of a few days now at max
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thesebastian said:
I hope this new update (32.2.A.0.224) we're waiting for Z5C solves, at least, these 2 things:
- adaptive brightness gamma colors that get washed under a lot of light.
- the performance issues that appear after 5-10 days without rebooting the phone.
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You're lucky that you only reboot every 5-10 days. I reboot once or twice a day! If I open Snapchat (yes, the app itself does suck, which makes it even worse), I definitely have to reboot sooner than later. My bluetooth doesn't get picked up half of the time and if I use the phone while listening to music, the sound stutters. It's just not a good experience. The Z3C was light years ahead of the Z5C, which is unfortunate.
On the note of the S6: I've heard quite a bit of praise after M update. One of my closest friends own both the S6 and S7 (both on M) and mentions that they're pretty comparable. Really though, anything but the Z5C is better IMO. Especially since I can most likely get the S6 for the Z5C without losing money. After the S4, I told myself I wouldn't be getting another Galaxy phone but it looks like Samsung really turned it around with the S6 so I'll give them another chance.
E5803 started to receive the update
https://xpericheck.com/device/E5803
E5823 too:
https://xpericheck.com/device/E5823
[email protected]%%ing Sony system to upload the updates......
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It's only here atm:
http://developer.sonymobile.com/dow...rchives/open-source-archive-for-32-2-a-0-224/
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and how to instal?
Customized IT is out, so i'm updating
thesebastian said:
Customized IT is out, so i'm updating
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I'm expecting a full report within the next 10 minutes... hurry up
Customized AU, Customized IT, Customized SG, CIS RU/UA/KZ/BY and Ireland iD IE currently have the new firmware out.
Hopefully there will be Nordic Combined soon.
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Guys i had decided to get a Sony smartphone with waterproof,so i think this is the best option for me.
It costs about RM1,200 in Malaysia.
I'm also considering of Xperia Z1 but it's too expensive,costs about RM1,700,which was out of my budget.
So guys please tell me about this phone cons & pros,and about the 4.3 update performance,thanks :fingers-crossed:
Got some questions,will you think that Sony will support it till 2015 ? (Maybe Android 5.0)
Is it worth it to buy ? Any problem with it ?
1 more thing should i wait for Sony MWC 2014 ?
Maybe Sony will unveil a device which have the specs of about SP.
The Sirius will be pricey so i can't afford it.
Ben Ling said:
Guys i had decided to get a Sony smartphone with waterproof,so i think this is the best option for me.
It costs about RM1,200 in Malaysia.
I'm also considering of Xperia Z1 but it's too expensive,costs about RM1,700,which was out of my budget.
So guys please tell me about this phone cons & pros,and about the 4.3 update performance,thanks :fingers-crossed:
Got some questions,will you think that Sony will support it till 2015 ? (Maybe Android 5.0)
Is it worth it to buy ? Any problem with it ?
1 more thing should i wait for Sony MWC 2014 ?
Maybe Sony will unveil a device which have the specs of about SP.
The Sirius will be pricey so i can't afford it.
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It's a solid phone, but the 4.3 update brought serious bugs, the cam and battery time is greatly affected by those bugs. Let's hope sony fixes them.
Also it won't get past android 4.4.
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It is a good phone. there are some issues with the back plate coming unglued (if you would read the forum instead of asking for the info to be served on a silver plate you'd know ).
the 4.3 update is fast and fluid, and i have found no bug except for "excessive delay, took vsync XX ms", which I have not read about on this forum, and a symmetry bug when taking screenshots.
battery life is ok, I can play ingress for ~3.5 hours (3g, GPS, screen on, rendering tons of 3D graphics)
it will hopefully be supported until 2015 (the Xperia T also got a 4.3 update...)
It is a good phone. I recommed update 4.4 rom
Hipotalamus said:
It is a good phone. I recommed update 4.4 rom
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well i have just bought it...
Ben Ling said:
well i have just bought it...
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Like it?
doministry said:
Like it?
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Like it very much...but i like Z1 more,problem is no so much budget...
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Like it very much...but i like Z1 more,problem is no so much budget...
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Here in Poland th difference is small:
the official Store wants only 300pln/75 Euro more for Z1.
doministry said:
Here in Poland th difference is small:
the official Store wants only 300pln/75 Euro more for Z1.
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I bought it at RM1,230...AP Set (means not original warranty of Sony)
The Z1 only have Ori,costs RM1,990
doministry said:
Here in Poland th difference is small:
the official Store wants only 300pln/75 Euro more for Z1.
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do you know how to root the latest 4.3 firmware ?
Ben Ling said:
do you know how to root the latest 4.3 firmware ?
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There's no exploit to root 4.3 currently, so the only way to root if you're already on 4.3 is to unlock your bootloader and flash a kernel with a custom recovery.
Either that or downgrade to 4.2.2, root and flash a prerooted 4.3 rom.
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do you know how to root the latest 4.3 firmware ?
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Nope. I didn't do it.
Hi Ben,
Its a good phone, I've used same Z for almost a year now. Like the others comment here, watch out for the back cover issue. Find a shop to glue it back with 3rd party glue if it loosens, coz the foam strip glue will not last more than a year or so....water goes in...all kinds of problems in drying. And ensure the flap covers are locked in tight when you wash your phone.
Ben, may I kindly ask the contact of shop you got your Z from ? At that price, I might get a spare one as my current one has been flooded with water many times....Thanks
emailpeter said:
Hi Ben,
Its a good phone, I've used same Z for almost a year now. Like the others comment here, watch out for the back cover issue. Find a shop to glue it back with 3rd party glue if it loosens, coz the foam strip glue will not last more than a year or so....water goes in...all kinds of problems in drying. And ensure the flap covers are locked in tight when you wash your phone.
Ben, may I kindly ask the contact of shop you got your Z from ? At that price, I might get a spare one as my current one has been flooded with water many times....Thanks
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Hi,I stay in Malaysia and i bought from a handphone shop at RM1,230 for not original Sony warranty and white color from here http://www.mudah.my/li?ca=8_s&id=88141
a few things you should keep in mind
camera is bad
phone gets hot
battery life is mediocre
screen has washed out colours
wifi is weak
sony is late with updates
dev scene seems to be a bit slower compared to the HTC and Samsung flagship devices.
also, i listen to a lot of music so the flaps get annoying
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a few things you should keep in mind
camera is bad
phone gets hot
battery life is mediocre
screen has washed out colours
wifi is weak
sony is late with updates
dev scene seems to be a bit slower compared to the HTC and Samsung flagship devices.
also, i listen to a lot of music so the flaps get annoying
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- The camera isn't perfect and isn't great under low light, but is acceptable under most conditions for me. Hopefully, an update will return the camera quality to what it was under 4.2.2.
- The phone only gets hot after extended periods of playing demanding games for me.
- I get at least 5 hours of screen on time and 2-3% of battery drain overnight. Hardly mediocre.
- The screen may look washed out when compared to other devices, but to me the colour is more natural.
- I get good wifi reception at the end of my large garden, maybe 60-70 metres from my router.
- At least 6 updates, including 2 upgrades to new versions of Android in 9 months is late with updates? If you want fast access to the latest version of Android, you should have gone Nexus.
- Less popular devices will have less dev support. The development section is far from dead though.
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spazzy1912 said:
a few things you should keep in mind
camera is bad
phone gets hot
battery life is mediocre
screen has washed out colours
wifi is weak
sony is late with updates
dev scene seems to be a bit slower compared to the HTC and Samsung flagship devices.
also, i listen to a lot of music so the flaps get annoying
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I don't know. As I always try to find good settins, I say Z camera is great.
I use it very very often and the general outcome is great. In every conditions.
Nothing is washed out here as well. You repeat some bull..t, the screen is fantastic.
doministry said:
I don't know. As I always try to find good settins, I say Z camera is great.
I use it very very often and the general outcome is great. In every conditions.
Nothing is washed out here as well. You repeat some bull..t, the screen is fantastic.
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kingvortex said:
- The camera isn't perfect and isn't great under low light, but is acceptable under most conditions for me. Hopefully, an update will return the camera quality to what it was under 4.2.2.
- The phone only gets hot after extended periods of playing demanding games for me.
- I get at least 5 hours of screen on time and 2-3% of battery drain overnight. Hardly mediocre.
- The screen may look washed out when compared to other devices, but to me the colour is more natural.
- I get good wifi reception at the end of my large garden, maybe 60-70 metres from my router.
- At least 6 updates, including 2 upgrades to new versions of Android in 9 months is late with updates? If you want fast access to the latest version of Android, you should have gone Nexus.
- Less popular devices will have less dev support. The development section is far from dead though.
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+1 to that
The only thing that isn't that good on the screen are the black levels and viewing angles.
I honestly cant see a big difference to my n5 screen except these.
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People think the screen is washed out because they're usually comparing it to a Samsung device that the colours are hugely over saturated on.
Like I said, I think the Z screen actually more faithfully reproduces colours rather than trying to make them pop out of the screen.
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Plus on videos and photos Bravia kicks in, giving amazing contrast.
On UI it's more settle so it doesn't kill the eyes.
Well. The z3 looks very nice is thinner than the z2 and also lighter. That's the major difference. Design. Software and camera is almost identical as performance too. Display on the z3 I think is slightly better but not 100% sure. The z2 display is good too. Camera is the same thing. With a two or three new features mostly the downloadable apps for the camera. Battery it is better on the z3 the z2 is not bad. So I decided to sell it. I might get the z3 compact I don't think is worth it unless u love the design and the ps4 feature. Which is not out yet. Grrrr I couldn't test that.
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ajftl said:
Well. The z3 looks very nice is thinker than three z2 and also lighter. That's the major difference. Design. Software and camera is almost identical as performance too. Display on the z3 I think is slightly better but not 100% sure. The z2 display is good too. Camera is the same thing. With a two or three new features mostly the downloadable apps for the camera. Battery it is better on the z3 the z2 is not bad. So I decided to sell it. I might get the z3 compact I don't think is worth it unless u love the design and the ps4 feature. Which is not out yet. Grrrr I couldn't test that.
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Agree! Small update over Z2. With 4.4.4 Z2's battery performace will be as good as Z3.
And if Z2 gets good update to 4.4.4 (at it definitely will), differences will be even harder to see
But, as we said few times already - Z3 isn't here for Z2 users.
It's aiming to Z and Z1 users...
The fact that both devices are mirror images of themselves was known the day the specs of the z3 got confirmed.
Most of the differences are software based and that will narrow significantly once the z2 gets updated.
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Good thing I went with the Z2 three weeks ago, I saved 150 euro ?
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Jiyeon90 said:
Good thing I went with the Z2 three weeks ago, I saved 150 euro ?
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I wouldn't really say dats a good thing. Z2 price will drop. If I was going to buy a phone right now, I will be getting the Z3. But as I have the Z2 now, NO!
stanley08 said:
I wouldn't really say dats a good thing. Z2 price will drop. If I was going to buy a phone right now, I will be getting the Z3. But as I have the Z2 now, NO!
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What he was trying to say is that he prefers the z2 at €150 less. Makes perfect sense to me. Who wouldn't?
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zodiac100 said:
What he was trying to say is that he prefers the z2 at €150 less. Makes perfect sense to me. Who wouldn't?
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Yh. Is quite a margin i must confess. Tempting really. But here in West Africa, when a newer device comes the older one gets a HUGE price drop and resale value is almost nothing. Well. Speaking from my own point of view. I resell my devices. But anyways, i was never gonna upgrade to the Z3 anyways.. Even Z4 not sure, i want to see what M9 looks like. I think i prefer my devices stay a flagship for a whole year
P.S: You said 'He' but i think it's a lady. Lol.
stanley08 said:
Yh. Is quite a margin i must confess. Tempting really. But here in West Africa, when a newer device comes the older one gets a HUGE price drop and resale value is almost nothing. Well. Speaking from my own point of view. I resell my devices. But anyways, i was never gonna upgrade to the Z3 anyways.. Even Z4 not sure, i want to see what M9 looks like. I think i prefer my devices stay a flagship for a whole year
P.S: You said 'He' but i think it's a lady. Lol.
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I'll second that. I'm no fan of Sony's 6 month nonsense either. It's got me thinking of trying the s6 next year. Don't trust htc on the camera front. Their phones have never had good cameras and that's even before ultrapixels bull****
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zodiac100 said:
I'll second that. I'm no fan of Sony's 6 month nonsense either. It's got me thinking of trying the s6 next year. Don't trust htc on the camera front. Their phones have never had good cameras and that's even before ultrapixels bull****
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Lol. Exactly why I want to see what they have to offer really... But Z4 might be good tho. Oh well... Only time will tell
stanley08 said:
I wouldn't really say dats a good thing. Z2 price will drop. If I was going to buy a phone right now, I will be getting the Z3. But as I have the Z2 now, NO!
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Funny you should say that. I've just bought a new Z2, primarily because the phones were so similar and the Z2 was cheaper. I didn't see any reason to go for the Z3 other than better battery life.
The Z3 has remote play and such like, but that WILL come to the Z2, either by Sony themselves or by some talented individual on these very forums.
I also like the styling of the Z2 better. The Z3 looks too much like the new iphone for my tastes.
Battery life isn't an issue for me because my phone is plugged in every night anyway.
And anyway, it's only six months wait till the Z4.....
Quick Edit - I see by your signature that you have unlocked your bootloader. Have you seen any difference in the Camera or other DRM protected apps since you did it? Also, I take it you backed up your TA? Was it easy to do?
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Funny you should say that. I've just bought a new Z2, primarily because the phones were so similar and the Z2 was cheaper. I didn't see any reason to go for the Z3 other than better battery life.
The Z3 has remote play and such like, but that WILL come to the Z2, either by Sony themselves or by some talented individual on these very forums.
I also like the styling of the Z2 better. The Z3 looks too much like the new iphone for my tastes.
Battery life isn't an issue for me because my phone is plugged in every night anyway.
And anyway, it's only six months wait till the Z4.....
Quick Edit - I see by your signature that you have unlocked your bootloader. Have you seen any difference in the Camera or other DRM protected apps since you did it? Also, I take it you backed up your TA? Was it easy to do?
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Unlcoked bootloader, didn't backup TA. Camera is better than HTC M8, I'm not a photographer. So I'm living Happily ever after.
hehehe saved my pocket too! Will stay on Z2 until Z5 which most probably will be a copy of Z4
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Funny you should say that. I've just bought a new Z2, primarily because the phones were so similar and the Z2 was cheaper. I didn't see any reason to go for the Z3 other than better battery life.
The Z3 has remote play and such like, but that WILL come to the Z2, either by Sony themselves or by some talented individual on these very forums.
I also like the styling of the Z2 better. The Z3 looks too much like the new iphone for my tastes.
Battery life isn't an issue for me because my phone is plugged in every night anyway.
And anyway, it's only six months wait till the Z4.....
Quick Edit - I see by your signature that you have unlocked your bootloader. Have you seen any difference in the Camera or other DRM protected apps since you did it? Also, I take it you backed up your TA? Was it easy to do?
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There is definitely a difference in picture quality, especially in low light pictures. Backing up the Ta partition is easy though. You just need to root first. Can restore at any time.
I was scared to get the z2 in July not knowing what the z3/next version would be like. I'm glad to hear I didn't make a totally horrible decision.
Does it really give you 2 days battery life?
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Well. The z3 looks very nice is thinner than the z2 and also lighter. That's the major difference. Design. Software and camera is almost identical as performance too. Display on the z3 I think is slightly better but not 100% sure. The z2 display is good too. Camera is the same thing. With a two or three new features mostly the downloadable apps for the camera. Battery it is better on the z3 the z2 is not bad. So I decided to sell it. I might get the z3 compact I don't think is worth it unless u love the design and the ps4 feature. Which is not out yet. Grrrr I couldn't test that.
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Hmm, i disagree. The differences are noticeable, but not enough to get envious of Z3 owners. Source: Wife has one and I set it up for her.
4.4.4 will address the differences in the software. Flashlight on quick settings, many more headphones listed in audio, etc
The screen is brighter and whiter, with precisely the same Nova settings on wife's z3 and my z2, hers is noticeably quicker and responsive - I'd say 10% quicker.
I have to say, I am jealous of the build quality - the covers on the side are recessed a little, so removing the phone from a pouch doesn't dislodge them occasionally.
Once 4.4.4 comes along, I'll be very happy. I bought some STH30 earphones and was disappointed that my z2 doesn't list them. Wife's z3 audio is much clearer than mine with the same headphones. Software no doubt, but she has the STH30 phones listed and it makes the difference somewhere.
The phones are different. In a lot of ways.
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Hmm, i disagree. The differences are noticeable, but not enough to get envious of Z3 owners. Source: Wife has one and I set it up for her.
4.4.4 will address the differences in the software. Flashlight on quick settings, many more headphones listed in audio, etc
The screen is brighter and whiter, with precisely the same Nova settings on wife's z3 and my z2, hers is noticeably quicker and responsive - I'd say 10% quicker.
I have to say, I am jealous of the build quality - the covers on the side are recessed a little, so removing the phone from a pouch doesn't dislodge them occasionally.
Once 4.4.4 comes along, I'll be very happy. I bought some STH30 earphones and was disappointed that my z2 doesn't list them. Wife's z3 audio is much clearer than mine with the same headphones. Software no doubt, but she has the STH30 phones listed and it makes the difference somewhere.
The phones are different. In a lot of ways.
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how about the battery performance? is it noticeably better on the z3?
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how about the battery performance? is it noticeably better on the z3?
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Z2 and Z3 battery is different too. We both always get 7hrs screen on time, but wife plays *a lot* of games.
Last time we both compared, I was impressed with my 8hrs screen on time (6% batt left) and she was 10% battery up and at 8hrs46 screen on time. Not sure what she did with it those 2 days uptime though, but gaming in there no doubt.
Hope we get the z3 battery algorithms in 4.4.4!
I can't get 8 hours screen on time because if my screen is on, I'm transmitting data. I use my phone only for phone calls or chatting (sending pictures, videos, taking pictures and sharing them, etc). I get about 5-6 hours of screen on time which is just FANTASTIC in my opinion! I'm on the Z2 by the way.
After all thease months, after all good and bad moments it's time to say goodbye and move on to my next device.
I bought LG G3 couple of weeks ago and today I'm selling my Xperia Z. It's so hard to move on because Xperia Z reminds me on true legend, Xperia X10i. It's such a great device to have. In fact , after using G3 for couple of weeks I'm so disappointed with this device (laggy software, not so great build quality) so I'll probably sell it and buy a real device, Xperia device (Z2 or Z3).
I'm gonna miss this forum so much, I'm gonna miss all You guys. Good luck and take care! :good:
So, the G3 isn't great then? I'm looking at getting a new device next month and it was a possibility, as reviews seem to be all positive. The Z3 is also on my list along with the N6.
I'm leaning towards the N6 because of ease of root etc and the huge development support that comes with the Nexus devices, but I'll see closer to the time as Sony has established itself as my current best Android OEM because of the great experience I've had with the Z.
Anyway, good luck for the future and I'm sure I'll see you around.
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So, the G3 isn't great then? I'm looking at getting a new device next month and it was a possibility, as reviews seem to be all positive. The Z3 is also on my list along with the N6.
I'm leaning towards the N6 because of ease of root etc and the huge development support that comes with the Nexus devices, but I'll see closer to the time as Sony has established itself as my current best Android OEM because of the great experience I've had with the Z.
Anyway, good luck for the future and I'm sure I'll see you around.
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LG G3 has beautiful display, one of the best out there, but 1440 x 2560 res is unnecessary because you can't see the difference between fullHD and this with naked eye. Camera is ok but not breathtaking (I think that LG use Sony 13 mpx module), Lollipop ROM is laggy, signal strength is lower than on other devices. Battery life is ok but not great, double tap to lock/unlock function is fantastic. If you look for development support I can't recommend you this phone, at least for now. On the other side I tested Xperia Z3 last week. Fantastic device, great looking, screen is beautiful, stock rom is fast and smooth, build quality is excellent. Battery life is insane, nice speakers, and camera is fantastic. I'm so in love with that phone man, I hope that Z3 is my next phone. And thanks for nice words.
I had a real bad experience with an LG device. The Optimus 2X was released with a lot of publicity as the first dual core Android phone and then abandoned with buggy software and only 2 updates in 2 years. I promised myself never to buy from them again, but the G3 was tempting me. Hearing your thoughts has put me off again!
So, Z3 or N6 it is probably.
Hope to see you around on the forums if I get a Z3.
Cheers.
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Funny I had the LG o2x too. What a disappointing device, I still remember how unreliable it was that I couldn't even use it as an alarm clock because it use to freeze when deep sleep
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Funny I had the LG o2x too. What a disappointing device, I still remember how unreliable it was that I couldn't even use it as an alarm clock because it use to freeze when deep sleep
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Yeah, you never knew if the thing would be unresponsive when you picked it up to use it. The stock rom was woeful as well. The only reason I didn't trash it was because of the great developer support and custom roms.
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So, the G3 isn't great then? I'm looking at getting a new device next month and it was a possibility, as reviews seem to be all positive. The Z3 is also on my list along with the N6.
I'm leaning towards the N6 because of ease of root etc and the huge development support that comes with the Nexus devices, but I'll see closer to the time as Sony has established itself as my current best Android OEM because of the great experience I've had with the Z.
Anyway, good luck for the future and I'm sure I'll see you around.
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If i were you i'd wait for the Z4.
Or go for the Z3, the Nexus isn't as good as it should be, the AMOLED is causing major issues.
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If i were you i'd wait for the Z4.
Or go for the Z3, the Nexus isn't as good as it should be, the AMOLED is causing major issues.
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I haven't really looked into anything yet, as I don't tend to start looking around at prices etc until I really am ready to buy a new device. The Z is still actually really usable despite being almost 2 years old now, so there's no urgent need.
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I haven't really looked into anything yet, as I don't tend to start looking around at prices etc until I really am ready to buy a new device. The Z is still actually really usable despite being almost 2 years old now, so there's no urgent need.
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MWC isn't THAT far away, and if the Z4 is announced then expect a Z3 price drop. The upgrades for the Z4 won't be game changers - an 810 with a better GPU, a slightly nicer display that may well be QHD, improvements to the camera I expect. With the amount of time people use their phones nowadays, battery life simply must improve. And with rumours that the actual Sony imaging department will handle the image processing, maybe the Z4 will get a stand-out camera. I really hope the RAW API's will be implemented by Sony. I'm looking at an upgrade too, maybe a Oneplus Two, or if they make a Nexus 5 2015 edition I'd bite. The Xperia Z was my first smartphone and I'd like to try other android devices.
Have any of you guys seen the new ASUS ZenFone that's to be released in March? It looks like an absolute animal of a phone and I'm very tempted to snap one up as soon as preorders are available because of its fantastic price and even better spec to follow, but I'm worried about the developer support as there hasn't really been a great deal of support for ASUS' previous ZenFone generations, do you guys think that the price would pull more developers in?
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Have any of you guys seen the new ASUS ZenFone that's to be released in March? It looks like an absolute animal of a phone and I'm very tempted to snap one up as soon as preorders are available because of its fantastic price and even better spec to follow, but I'm worried about the developer support as there hasn't really been a great deal of support for ASUS' previous ZenFone generations, do you guys think that the price would pull more developers in?
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Is that the one with the Intel processor? Yikes, as far as I know, developer support on those devices is nowhere near the level of your standard Snapdragon phones. Exynos processors in Samsung's are very common and even those are shunnes., with developers working on Snapdragons instead.
Quad HD sounds nice on paper but it doesn't bring any visual differences that your eyes can detect. Except the low battery indicator flashing more frequently?
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I have used a LG G3 for more than a while.. I couldn't see anything wrong with it on KK.. Compared its display with a Z3 and saw the difference in detail and also under sunlight it seemed better than Z3.. Ofc 2k comes into play as well.. So it would be wrong to compare. Also the gestures are nice on any high end LG phone which Xperia's miss officially.. And battery life on G3 is amazing for the h/w it has.. I hardly saw a hiccup even the LG UI.. Camera is decent(Probably same as XZ).. Atleast it seemed the same when i compared my XZ cam with it.. G3 is a beast phone and i think their LP fw update might be buggy since its just initial update.. Ofc u have to wait for another 1 or 2 bug fixing updates to experience the best of LP on any phone for that matter..
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I have used a LG G3 for more than a while.. I couldn't see anything wrong with it on KK.. Compared its display with a Z3 and saw the difference in detail and also under sunlight it seemed better than Z3.. Ofc 2k comes into play as well.. So it would be wrong to compare. Also the gestures are nice on any high end LG phone which Xperia's miss officially.. And battery life on G3 is amazing for the h/w it has.. I hardly saw a hiccup even the LG UI.. Camera is decent(Probably same as XZ).. Atleast it seemed the same when i compared my XZ cam with it.. G3 is a beast phone and i think their LP fw update might be buggy since its just initial update.. Ofc u have to wait for another 1 or 2 bug fixing updates to experience the best of LP on any phone for that matter..
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I agree with you, but I sold it yesterday anyway. I ordered Z2 this morning and that's my next phone. Cheers.
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I agree with you, but I sold it yesterday anyway. I ordered Z2 this morning and that's my next phone. Cheers.
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What's Google's policy regarding transferring paid for apps from one phone to another? Can they be shared on 2 phones?
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What's Google's policy regarding transferring paid for apps from one phone to another? Can they be shared on 2 phones?
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You just have to sign in on the other device. I have a couple of phones and a tablet on the same Google account and can use paid apps on all of them with no issues.
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I hope so!
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I agree with you, but I sold it yesterday anyway. I ordered Z2 this morning and that's my next phone. Cheers.
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Count me too.. For Z2. Soon..
We don't really need a new thread for everyone who leaves to another device. If you already have a thread you can post it there, but a new thread isn't needed.
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After using the Idol 3 for a couple of weeks, I have the following observations.
Pros:
1) It is a very nice phone, especially considering the price.
2) Battery life is on par with most flagship phones if not better. I can get 5 hours SOT without turning anything off or down. (Considering most people on other phones are complaining about battery drain on Android 5.01/2 and everyone is hoping that 5.1 will fix this, our battery life may only get better)
3) The camera is quick taking shots and straight forward to use. (quality not so much)
4) The OS is simple with very little bloat ware.
5) Very good sound with the front facing speakers.
6) The phone is thin and light for a having a 2910 mAh battery in it.
7) The screen is very bright in direct sunlight. I use it outside a lot and enjoy using it without trying to find some shade.
Cons:
1) The camera is fast but only takes decent pictures. Although for this price one can't complain to much as it is on par of flagship phones a couple years old.
2) Double tap to wake seems to be a constant issue for many (myself included).
3) Only 1 update in the last 14 days. I was hoping for Alcatel to push out some updates quicker but only time will tell how well they do.
4) The phone isn't blazing fast but doesn't lag too much either so this is kind of neutral. Clearly the recent apps is choppy and slow but most performance is decent.
5) Very little in the way of accessories. I bought an ipad screen protector and cut it down to fit.(I can get 3 out of 1).
6) Development isn't there. Not sure if it will be as maybe the phone isn't popular enough or the root/boatloader issue my be part of that as well.
I had the Zenfone 2 and LG G3 and sold them both in favour of this phone. I have had almost every flag phone out there and thought I would play around with some lower priced devices and have been pleasantly surprised with this phone so far. 3 things for me to keep the phone as a daily driver for a little would be, the DTTW issue resolved, some development so I can have some fun flashing some roms, and update to Android M (or at least to 5.1 for some software improvements and extra battery life, but 5 hours of OST is good for me. I most likely will be keeping this phone as my backup once I do move on and will certainly keep an eye on Alcatel for future phones.
I agree 100% with what you said. Just waiting for an update to 5.1 (with some bug fixing) and I'd be very happy.
As for the camera, I'm coming from a Nexus 4. So this is a huge upgrade. I actually find that it takes pretty decent pictures in sunlight.
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I agree 100% with what you said. Just waiting for an update to 5.1 (with some bug fixing) and I'd be very happy.
As for the camera, I'm coming from a Nexus 4. So this is a huge upgrade. I actually find that it takes pretty decent pictures in sunlight.
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I watched a review that stated the Zenfone 2 camera blew the idol 3 away.
My personal experience is completely the opposite. The Zenfone 2 camera was slow at focusing and unless you picked a shooting mode the auto setting was the worse choice.
I was spoiled with the note 4 and G3 cameras.
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I watched a review that stated the Zenfone 2 camera blew the idol 3 away.
My personal experience is completely the opposite. The Zenfone 2 camera was slow at focusing and unless you picked a shooting mode the auto setting was the worse choice.
I was spoiled with the note 4 and G3 cameras.
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Completely agree with all you have written on your posts[emoji2] . I have the phone and love it, double tap works very well, apex launcher + Deactivated animations in dev menu is a must!
And to screen off the device apex + screen off app is fantastic!
Oh and I have tried the laggy g3, its sad screen and its bad battery life [emoji6] ..
I own the m8 because the m9 hasn't convinced me, vs the m8..
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I like it too. if somehow development are started I don't really care if Alcatel updates. hardware wise I'm sure this phone can do better than it is now.
therefore I'm only praying for everything to come together for developments of custom roms before everyone got fed up of Alcatel and leave this boat.
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maddog497 said:
After using the Idol 3 for a couple of weeks, I have the following observations.
Cons:
5) Very little in the way of accessories. I bought an ipad screen protector and cut it down to fit.(I can get 3 out of 1).
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There is a 3-pack of Mr Shield screen protectors on Amazon that fit the phone perfectly. They aren't the best quality (shows scratches pretty easily) but they have the cutout for the camera/light sensor.
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There is a 3-pack of Mr Shield screen protectors on Amazon that fit the phone perfectly. They aren't the best quality (shows scratches pretty easily) but they have the cutout for the camera/light sensor.
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I ordered a glass screen protector a few days ago. I was notified yesterday that they are out so they are sending me 2 cheap ones for now and when the glass one comes in they will send it.
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I ordered a glass screen protector a few days ago. I was notified yesterday that they are out so they are sending me 2 cheap ones for now and when the glass one comes in they will send it.
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Which glass one did you pick and how much?
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Which glass one did you pick and how much?
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I'll look it up and get back to you.
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Which glass one did you pick and how much?
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this one here
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/151705198907...49&var=450907160802&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Maddog, tell us how it is when you get them.
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thanks for listing all the cons and pros.
I read lots of people are waiting for updates . Hope Alcatel reacts fast.
1 update in 14 days is actually really good
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1 update in 14 days is actually really good
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I don't disagree but the update was on start up. Nothing after that. This is a budget phone and a great one at that. If they address a could issue this good be a decent daily driver.
I lost patients and moved on but still check the forum as it was an underdog and I was mostly pleased with it.
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I don't disagree but the update was on start up. Nothing after that. This is a budget phone and a great one at that. If they address a could issue this good be a decent daily driver.
I lost patients and moved on but still check the forum as it was an underdog and I was mostly pleased with it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/idol-3/general/performance-update-t3154635
Ive had this since yesterday. Phone has great potential with custom roms. My biggest complaint is the serious lag issues. Id assume this is from 5.0.2 and the memory leak. The animations are choppy as hell. Otherwise great device.
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Ive had this since yesterday. Phone has great potential with custom roms. My biggest complaint is the serious lag issues. Id assume this is from 5.0.2 and the memory leak. The animations are choppy as hell. Otherwise great device.
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5.0.2 is full of bugs, yeah. Not sure why phones would ship with that in the first place but meh. To have a smoother experience, enable dev options and set all animation scales to off or .5x.
In europe evertything runs just fine animations, app clearing, everything even in 5.0.2, what's your build number?
The design is what sold me. Super light weight and very good battery life. Speakers are very good and the lcd is better than my nexus 5 was. The only downside is the lag which im thinking is from the gpu drivers and 5.0.2. Custom roms could fix this.
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In europe evertything runs just fine animations, app clearing, everything even in 5.0.2, what's your build number?
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Id say most users on here agree the animations lag like hell. You must be running some super seceret version of 5.0.2.
what is the phone charging time ? wonder if its Lion battery needs to be replaced faster than others' Lipo ?
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Thanks for the explanation, it makes sense. But The simple consumer question is: should I pay quite a significant amount of money for a top of the line phone that lags and stutters, despite my love for Xperia, and risking contempt from other phone users who have older but smoother models, with just some hope that some tuning might come in the future?
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Thanks for the explanation, it makes sense. But The simple consumer question is: should I pay quite a significant amount of money for a top of the line phone that lags and stutters, despite my love for Xperia, and risking contempt from other phone users who have older but smoother models, with just some hope that some tuning might come in the future?
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This is an important question.
First of all its not that there are stutters everywhere, the overall performance is still good.
As the phone just got released, and every freshly released phone has some kind of software issues, i'd suggest to wait for some firmware updates.
I have already seen there is an update scheduled for the Z5 series, which may be coming soon.
Approx. when marshmallow comes to the Z5 series, things are going to get better.
Overall the Z5C is an excellent phone otherwise.
I saw a video of the Z5 compact which showed that it's performance was much worse than the z3 compact. I'm looking to get the Z5 myself but if that also performance issues then I doubt I'll buy it.
One thing I learnt from having the LG G3 is that it's not wise to buy a product with issues hoping that they MAY be fixed with software updates.
If Sony cared so much then it wouldn't have been released with sluggish performance. Hopefully your right and this can be fixed, as the Z5 was seeming perfect to me but I'm not too confident.
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I saw a video of the Z5 compact which showed that it's performance was much worse than the z3 compact. I'm looking to get the Z5 myself but if that also performance issues then I doubt I'll buy it.
One thing I learnt from having the LG G3 is that it's not wise to buy a product with issues hoping that they MAY be fixed with software updates.
If Sony cared so much then it wouldn't have been released with sluggish performance. Hopefully your right and this can be fixed, as the Z5 was seeming perfect to me but I'm not too confident.
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I've seem the vid too, its nowhere near as bad as it seems there.
In some parts its faster, but sometimes (very rare) there are some small lag spikes.
Mine's been like butter (so far).
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No problems here either - at least as fast/smooth as my Z3c (which would also have the odd stutter).
If I can get two average days battery life, I can accept 99% smoothness.
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No problems here either - at least as fast/smooth as my Z3c (which would also have the odd stutter).
If I can get two average days battery life, I can accept 99% smoothness.
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The thing is, you don't have to make sacrafices.
100% smoothness and the same battery-life is possible with ease.
It is the same with my Z Ultra, i modified Sony's system-scripts and now my Ultra is smoother with unaffected battery-life.
This phone is awesome so it deserves some more fine-tuning.
Surely the experience depends what people are running on their phones?
For example, my Z3 compact never had an stuttering or lag with the stock Xperia launcher, but using the Google Now launcher I would get the odd stutter maybe once a day. People not running the Google Now launcher would never experience any issue.
I can only say that in my case, the Z5 compact is as smooth and fluid as the Z3 using the same apps on a daily basis.
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Surely the experience depends what people are running on their phones?
For example, my Z3 compact never had an stuttering or lag with the stock Xperia launcher, but using the Google Now launcher I would get the odd stutter maybe once a day. People not running the Google Now launcher would never experience any issue.
I can only say that in my case, the Z5 compact is as smooth and fluid as the Z3 using the same apps on a daily basis.
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Hey guys, received my Z5 compact last week, as an upgrade from my Z1 compact.
For the moment I'm finding the phone very slow and often downright unresponsive.
I'm sure it can be solved with z firmware update, but it is really disappointing after the great experience I had with the Z1c.
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You that got problems, are your units white? They seem to have a lot more problems.
Nope, black here.
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I think white batch has a problem with unresponsive screen but we all suffer from stuttering and slowdowns. I had a white brick and swapped it for a black without the problem.
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For the first few days it seemed slow and laggy - received an OTA update today and it's improved a lot. Was worried at first now can't fault it. On EE in the UK. Build number 32.0.A.5.29.
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For the first few days it seemed slow and laggy - received an OTA update today and it's improved a lot. Was worried at first now can't fault it. On EE in the UK. Build number 32.0.A.5.29.
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For now this is a carrier only update. Let's see if they bring it to non-carrier versions as well.
I've got big problems with my Z5C, it's really unresponsive and slow like 90% of the time I use it. I also had Z1C before and I didn't experience that.
Hopefully some update will come soon cause it's driving me crazy!
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I've got big problems with my Z5C, it's really unresponsive and slow like 90% of the time I use it. I also had Z1C before and I didn't experience that.
Hopefully some update will come soon cause it's driving me crazy!
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I suppose you have one of those white z5c that have such an issue, a software update should resolve it on the months coming. On my black z5c, there aren't any problems like that.
I have absolutely no problems either... I've got the black one too.
My Z5 was also slow and stuttering(e.g when playing Spotify music from cache and during camera app). what i did was replace my SD card for a faster one
Sandisk Ultra 64GB (class 10) => Samsung Evo 64GB (UHS 1)
benchmarks show roughly twice the speed. it makes me curious what an UHS3 card will do