Now that the Z2 has been fully revealed, I was wondering how many Z1 owners were thinking of switching to the Z2 once it comes out. Both are so similar specs wise that for some it wouldn't make sense to make the leap.
For me, I'm probably going to stay with the Z1. The display is the only thing drawing me to the Z2 but I can't justify paying so much money just for better viewing angles. The rest of the software features like 4K recroding and tap2wake are going to be ported to the Z1 officially or through the devs so the gap between the Z1 and Z2 will be very small.
Thoughts?
note: This is only for people thinking about getting the Z2, and not another phone
The Z2 is a good choice for those who are coming from other brands.
I think it's not worth to sell our Z1 and get the Z2 (well if you want to always have the latest phone, go) as spec wise there is little improvement on the hardware. Lets wait for Z3 and see what it will offer.
Currently happy with my Z1, just the camera brings disappointment. Peace
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Hell no. I don't see any major upgrades that could justified the change.
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Well I was thinking about this too and here is my opinion: SONY has huge problems with phone overheating starting from S, Z, Z1 .. Almost all the phones have small defects for example camera button is very loose and it's a bit hard to take a picture without handshake on keypress, then my volume button became very strange it's like going to fall of, when I slightly press on it it feels like it was outside and then returned to its position, I mean that SONY has to think about build quality rather than releasing new flagship twice a month But from the other side there are no normal phones, I was thinking of Nexus 5 and G2 but I didn't like G2 UI and Nexus 5 Camera because it takes strictly 4:3 ... And as usual I'll say that I wont buy SONY again but probably will buy SONY
Sony makes new flagships all the time... perhaps i will wait a couple of flagships before i buy another one
No way! I have to keep my money for nearly a year to get Z1. LOL. I'm very happy with Z1 tho, it's a decent device. There are a lot of proud and pride for having this device. Z2 don't have too big differences compares to Z1 tho, I think stick with Z1 and wait for new generation of Z family (perhaps Z3 or Z4) will be the best choice
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This upgrade is mainly for Original Z users
The upgrade for us Z1 users is coming by the end of the year, im pretty sure
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If sony gives most software features then No, but if sony dont give features then my z1 then probably
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no point
i will probably wait for Z3, and if that thing doesnt have decent developer support after a month or two i am going with whatever nexus phone is out by then.
I'm thinking about it since the Z1s may or may not get root. There's a few people working on it. But, for me, I'm thinking of the possibility of us not getting root. I'd sell my Z1s to help by the global Z2. With the Z1s coming out about a month ago. Is it reasonable to ask for $500 or could I go higher?
Anybody know for sure whether or not the global phones will work on T-Mo USA's data bands?
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Hell no. I don't see any major upgrades that could justified the change.
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Agree! :good:
kantk20111 said:
Now that the Z2 has been fully revealed, I was wondering how many Z1 owners were thinking of switching to the Z2 once it comes out. Both are so similar specs wise that for some it wouldn't make sense to make the leap.
For me, I'm probably going to stay with the Z1. The display is the only thing drawing me to the Z2 but I can't justify paying so much money just for better viewing angles. The rest of the software features like 4K recroding and tap2wake are going to be ported to the Z1 officially or through the devs so the gap between the Z1 and Z2 will be very small.
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Not Upgrading to a Z2, because,
1. I don't care about 4K, althoughit may be ported in the future. I hardly record video's in 1080P ...
2. Marginal Performance difference with a slightly faster Adreno 330 isnt. There is nothing available on the Playstore that needs more performance than a 2.15 Krait 400 with a 450 mhz Adreno 330 can deliver anyway.
3. Camera stuff will probably be ported in the future, even if it isn't I'm not fussed about it. It's just icing on the cake.
lol,
4. Don't care about Viewing angles because I look at my phon straight one, not at an awkward angle,
lol,
5. the pixel density is actually higher on the Z1, it's sharper,
6. another 200mah on the battery is a joke over he Z1's 3000mah ...
regards
Hey guys... no ASF on the Z2. I'll update later as to what type of glass. I'll be making plans on switching.
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This upgrade is mainly for Original Z users
The upgrade for us Z1 users is coming by the end of the year, im pretty sure
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Hope so,
anything less than a Snapdragon 805 processor and Adreno 420 isn't gonna cut the Mustard ...
hope they make the phone a bit smaller, otherwise we'll end up with a phablet at this rate ...
lol,
Nope.
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Not Upgrading to a Z2, because,
lol,
5. the pixel density is actually higher on the Z1, it's sharper,
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Agree with most of your points, but the display of the Z2 is a lot better than the Z1's. The loss of sharpness is negligible, but the new IPS screen tech is less washed out than the Z1's TFT screen.
They didn't even did something about those borders around the screen, OIS for camera or something that worth thinking about an upgrade. Small improvements compared to my beloved Z1. It's not worth buying a new flagship at least until a year or two.
Mine is two weeks old. So I wont buy a new one. I'm not a millionaire and I'm absolutly satisfied with this one!!!!
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Never!!!!!!!
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Not a chance.
I find it a waste to upgrade to the Z2 if you already own a Z1.
I think that the Z2 will be the perfect phone to upgrade to if you are coming from another OEM, or you are coming from an Xperia device from 2011/2012.
Our Z1 is more than up to the task and in time it will have a community comparable to the flagships that came before it, like the original Xperia flagship, the X10 :highfive:
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Hey guys, so I have upgraded my Xperia Z to Z1 and thought I would make a video giving you 10 reasons why you may wish to upgrade.
For most the upgrade is pointless though as the Xperia Z is still a very powerful phone and has really good specs but I thought I would point out the 10 things that are better about the Z1, so if you are in for an upgrade, you have the money definitely go for it
bro everyone want to upgrade to Z1 but considering the cost that i've already spent my 630$ and im not sure if i want to spend another 750$ for Z1 unless Sony throws any phone swap scheme. how much did you get after selling your Xperia Z?
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bro everyone want to upgrade to Z1 but considering the cost that i've already spent my 630$ and im not sure if i want to spend another 750$ for Z1 unless Sony throws any phone swap scheme. how much did you get after selling your Xperia Z?
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Is your back glass lifting the way mine was? If so you should be able to get your money back in full (I was able through EU law).
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Hey guys, so I have upgraded my Xperia Z to Z1 and thought I would make a video giving you 10 reasons why you may wish to upgrade.
For most the upgrade is pointless though as the Xperia Z is still a very powerful phone and has really good specs but I thought I would point out the 10 things that are better about the Z1, so if you are in for an upgrade, you have the money definitely go for it
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why the z screen look better
no my backglass is just fine
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bro everyone want to upgrade to Z1 but considering the cost that i've already spent my 630$ and im not sure if i want to spend another 750$ for Z1 unless Sony throws any phone swap scheme. how much did you get after selling your Xperia Z?
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I haven't sold it yet. I had to send it for warranty replacement of one of the flaps covering the ports first. I should get around 400$ for it though
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why the z screen look better
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My z1 has a little bit of a yellow hue problem, which I mentioned in the video. Unfortunately there isn't much I can do about it for now.
did u ask sony for valuation of your xperia z?
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did u ask sony for valuation of your xperia z?
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No, I just sent it to have it fixed before I try and sell it. They retail for around 400$ where I live though
I will say why NOT to upgrade:
1. Too big
2. Same sound on external speaker
3. Same shutter proof cover on the glass, WTF!
4. Battery consumption is the same.
5. Web browsing, video playback time is below competitors.
Now, im my case who bought S, T and Z there is no reason to upgrade and one of the main reasons is that ASF s**t at the end of 2013, the only upgrade i can see is to leave sony and buy from competitors...but i have an entire collection of Sony since J70 and i still.. prefer to eat their crap.
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I will say why NOT to upgrade:
1. Too big
2. Same sound on external speaker
3. Same shutter proof cover on the glass, WTF!
4. Battery consumption is the same.
5. Web browsing, video playback time is below competitors.
Now, im my case who bought S, T and Z there is no reason to upgrade and one of the main reasons is that ASF s**t at the end of 2014, the only upgrade i can see is to leave sony and buy from competitors...but i have an entire collection of Sony since J70 and i still.. prefer to eat their crap.
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1. Have you held it in your hand? It is actually way more comfortable than Z
2. The speaker placement is better though
3. You can always take it off. I have spoken to a Sony Center emloyee and apparenty those are replaceable and you do not lose your warranty (but yeah you would have to confirm that one with your retailer)
4. In tests the battery life is in fact better and in normal usage I have found it to last me longer
5. Ok but for the tests they should have switched off X-Reality in some of them they didn't and that is an extra strain on CPU and GPU
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2. The speaker placement is better though
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It's the matter of taste. I like Z speaker more than in Z1. Just my opinion.
My bro got the Z1 today after having a play im glad i went with the Z ultra over the Z1 (currently using a Z) the z1 is a really nice handset but for me the original z was a big leap forward for Sony where as the Z1 is just an upgrade rather than anything new.
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My bro got the Z1 today after having a play im glad i went with the Z ultra over the Z1 (currently using a Z) the z1 is a really nice handset but for me the original z was a big leap forward for Sony where as the Z1 is just an upgrade rather than anything new.
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Z Ultra is a great tablet. It is very comfortable to use, most units have a very nice display (a lot of them come with yellow hue though some worse than on my Z1). You say it is just an upgrade but with so many areas improved and redesigned it is kinda difficult to call it that.
Just an upgrade would be if they put 1 maybe 2 things from the list but here you have so many changes that it is like a completely new handset.
Of course it is a matter of personal needs and preference whether an upgrade is right for you at this moment but without a doubt it is a great piece of equipment which shows that Sony can innovate and is moving forward ahead of its competitors.
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Z Ultra is a great tablet. It is very comfortable to use, most units have a very nice display (a lot of them come with yellow hue though some worse than on my Z1). You say it is just an upgrade but with so many areas improved and redesigned it is kinda difficult to call it that.
Just an upgrade would be if they put 1 maybe 2 things from the list but here you have so many changes that it is like a completely new handset.
Of course it is a matter of personal needs and preference whether an upgrade is right for you at this moment but without a doubt it is a great piece of equipment which shows that Sony can innovate and is moving forward ahead of its competitors.
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Yeah i agree its all dependent on personal taste my bro loves it coming from an S4 he is really happy (not that he didnt love his S4)
he just said the z1 felt like premium handset and was extremely solid.
Only reason i ordered the Ultra was i like to be different and nobody i know is brave enough to own a handset of that size so i know ill be unique.
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1. Have you held it in your hand? It is actually way more comfortable than Z
2. The speaker placement is better though
3. You can always take it off. I have spoken to a Sony Center emloyee and apparenty those are replaceable and you do not lose your warranty (but yeah you would have to confirm that one with your retailer)
4. In tests the battery life is in fact better and in normal usage I have found it to last me longer
5. Ok but for the tests they should have switched off X-Reality in some of them they didn't and that is an extra strain on CPU and GPU
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Seriously the video playback time and web browsing time is not good. Video playback is like only 5 hours plus? Samsung's s3 has got like 9 hour plus and note 3 if I'm not wrong is around 11-14hours I think. Web browsing and video playback is two of the main things we do on a smartphone isn't it?
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when XPERIA Z2 comes out Z1 will be just the same old forgotten toy like Z
One of my annoyances.. uhh... Two are
01. The flash is extremely weak! I've taken pictures at night side by side with another much lower end phone and my pics came out way darker. In daylight its fine.
02. The WiFi range isn't too far
Are these two points improved on in the Z1 or Ultra?
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I think the s4 pro is enough; don't need to upgrade to s800, it seems like the old PCs processors war...
It seems the WiFi in Z1 has also a poor signal as the Z,one of the reasons may not get this phone if the issue is not fixed
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2451640
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Since there's no dedicated thread for the Z1 Compact I figured I'd start one.
My main question is: Has anyone seen any price predictions?
Will be interesting to see just how similar they are on the inside, I'm guessing very!
549euro... But it's not sure
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It's pretty much the perfect phone IMO - apart from the frame... Something about it makes it look a little bit cheap-ish. I might change my opinion once I hold and try it in my own hands.
Too bad I just bought Z1 a couple of months ago.
Official price... 499 euro
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My new phone :laugh:
499 on preoder means 450 on the web. Perfect size, high end hardware, top quality build, sd card nfc and so on... Unlocked by sony as usual and well known hardware for custom rom
pretty enthusiast, go sony :good:
I think the Z1 Compact is a great phone. Smaller body, big specs.
But do you think it is a bit of a downgrade if a Z1 will be exchanged to a Z1 Compact due to screen size and battery? Just asking.
Should the screen of the Z1 Compact is very good compared than Z1 then that's a bit of sad for Z1 owners but nonetheless Z1 is a great phone and every owner of Z1 knows it right?
i saw somewhere around the netz that the z1 compact will have actually a bit better battery life than z1 simply coz biggest battery drainer in daily use is the screen.
cant wait for this one to come available, the white one looks so beautiful, i avoided the z1 for the size, and z1 compact is almost the size of my ex-phone .. arc s.
time to move sooon
Amazing work by Sony
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Amazing work by Sony
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Good one, but too small, battery 2300mha only...
eclyptos said:
Good one, but too small, battery 2300mha only...
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It's a smaller display. I think owners won't see a difference.
AntiDroid said:
It's a smaller display. I think owners won't see a difference.
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..ok..but they should leave 3000mha battery like in Z1, this will be huge difference...
eclyptos said:
..ok..but they should leave 3000mha battery like in Z1, this will be huge difference...
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Err... yeah, good luck with that buddy.
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the z1 compact will have actually a bit better battery life than z1 simply coz biggest battery drainer in daily use is the screen.
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+1 for that. 1/4 pixel, about 1/4 battery drain for screen
HTC One developer here going to Xperia Z1 Compact!
Finally after years of waiting someone finally decided to make a handyphone again lol! How I wish qwerty phone will be back soon too.
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HTC One developer here going to Xperia Z1 Compact!
Finally after years of waiting someone finally decided to make a handyphone again lol! How I wish qwerty phone will be back soon too.
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Sony started a new trend, with the popularity the Z1 compact is getting im pretty sure the other manufacturers WILL start making mini flagships with high end specs, starting with Samsung
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So glad, I've been waiting with buying the S4 Active, I mean awesome one everyone who has it is happy with it, but I need a HANDY not with some multimedia capabilities, not the other way around and 5' just is too big for me.
Thankfully Sony realized, that Mini doesn't need to be lesser it just mean SAME product in a smaller frame and that's essentially what they've done. Would have been nice to have a 1080p but other than that, really no complains great product. Heres hoping - yes I'm hinting at you Samsung - are going to follow suit with the S5 Mini/Compact.
Hopefully this is a trend and we are finally seeing the return to more handylike "Smartphones" and maybe an Androidphone with a QWERTZ keyboard. Let's hope this thing is selling well, so other developers are going to follow.
For such a high quality product 499 isn't too much.
Ordered it yesterday, it will be an awesome device!
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Hopefully this is a trend and we are finally seeing the return to more handylike "Smartphones" and maybe an Androidphone with a QWERTZ keyboard. Let's hope this thing is selling well, so other developers are going to follow.
For such a high quality product 499 isn't too much.
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+1 for that, I'm really impressed and glad to see Sony being the first one to realize that not everybody wants a >5" screen. I confess to you guys that after seeing every major brand going with huge screens I was starting to consider switch to iPhone. It's a relief to see the Xperia z1 compact "borning" and now I'm waiting anxiously it start selling in Brazil. Kudos to you Sony, well done.
Xperia Z1 can support that large battery because it is large phone. Z1 Compact is smaller phone there is no place for that large battery. But 2300Mah is HUGE (and best) for a phone with 4.3 inch so..no worries here friends. Also since smaller screen and res it will consume less power. The big Xperia Z had this 2300Mah battery capacity!!!
As for a display 1080p to 720p it's nothing. I've seen both Xperia T and Xperia Z. Compared screen res...the same.
Conclusion: It is not a downgrade it's the same only in different sizes. I have a hard time choosing size now. :/
Edit: Oh, and Z1 Compact screen is improved in terms of contrast and viewing angle compared to Z1.
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Edit: Oh, and Z1 Compact screen is improved in terms of contrast and viewing angle compared to Z1.
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Great to know, I thought that the only change was on size and resolution, could you please explain why contrast and viewing angles was improved?
About the other specs, I agree with you that's it's not a exactly a downgrade since it doesn't seem technically possible to fit a bigger battery or a 1080p resolution screen on such a small phone. If you compare with HTC one mini or galaxy s4 mini (both 4.3") have 1.800 and 1.900mAh only.
http://www.androidpit.com/sony-xperia-z1-compact-vs-samsung-galaxy-s4-mini-vs-htc-one-mini
So far though not official yet, according to GSMarena, the specs doesn't look too good at least for me to upgrade to the Z3. Base hardwarewise is basically the same... kind of dissapointed me
Unless they put some significant changes as Z1->Z2, i think this time i won't upgrade but maybe wait for the Z4
http://www.gsmarena.com/xperia_z3_benchmarks_leak_showing_it_has_the_z2_specs-news-9315.php
No, I'm under contract for two years so no way.
Nope, wait for Z4 with Android L
El.Guaje said:
Nope, wait for Z4 with Android L
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What's android L
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I probably will trade in my Z2 for a Z3 compact. That was the idea from the beginning. Needed a new phone but couldn't wait. So I bought the Z2 hoping by the time the Z3 got released someone would want to trade. And if not. Maybe I'll keep the Z2 or maybe I'll sell it and get the Z3c myself.
But a normal Z2 to Z3, nah for what!? My only problem with phones nowadays is the size. Way too large for normal use IMHO.
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Next version of Android.
After the Z2/M8 I would get something with UHD not QHD and with 5.5-5.7inch screen without much bezel. The 805 is only good in the GPU department and even then 1440p/420 is equal to 1080p/330. So my next phone might be iPhone 7 or Z5-Z7
Nope, Z2 is a very good phone for me. Z3 has not much extra's
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I probably will trade in my Z2 for a Z3 compact. That was the idea from the beginning. Needed a new phone but couldn't wait. So I bought the Z2 hoping by the time the Z3 got released someone would want to trade. And if not. Maybe I'll keep the Z2 or maybe I'll sell it and get the Z3c myself.
But a normal Z2 to Z3, nah for what!? My only problem with phones nowadays is the size. Way too large for normal use IMHO.
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My thoughts are exactly the same, if I gonna switch it, it's gonna be for z3 compact only,
but not sure yet, have to see what does z3c offers over z2 except size-wise
With Sony's 6 month release cycle it's pretty hard to keep up especially if they are just making nominal and incremental changes. If they go with the 2k screen they better up the batter from the z2.
I'm going to be staying with the z2. Just found it after almost the entire year trying out other phones and I'm loving it.
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Nope.
Only slightly faster CPU and uglier design IMO (love the design of stereo speakers and LED notification of Z2)
This time, no.
It's almost the same phone...
If Z3 doesn't have a 5.5 inch screen then I'll get the note 4
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The only new thing is the ''design'' xD. So Nooo thank you.Sticking to my Z2 <3 This 6 month cycle is a complete crap if you ask me :/
No Z3 for me if there is nothing new. For now Z2 has better design.
Not at all, mainly because right now I'm more keen to switch back to a Nexus device, and also the improvements from Z2 to Z3 shouldnt be too great a reason to make the upgrade.
IMHO, Z3 is mainly meant for "new" buyers that are coming from older Sony (Sony Ericsson) devices or other brands and they are intend to buy a flag ship this autumn/winter.
Of course, also those ones who must have the latest and newest are welcome
I'm staying with z2 for awhile
There hasn't been as much in the way of leaks as previous devices. I can only hope there's some amazing improvement we've not been told about.
Because for now it seems that it might be a bit more rounded at the edges, maybe have a smaller bezel and that's about it.
Wireless charging would be nice as a new addition, but otherwise what could a Z2 possibly get that would make a swap worthwhile?
I realise I said that with the Z2 over the Z1 but it turned out the screen was a lot better, physically bigger and the front facing speakers a massive leap. So all the must have changes have already happened.
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Nope.
Only slightly faster CPU and uglier design IMO (love the design of stereo speakers and LED notification of Z2)
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This!
Actually if one year from now and still not much has changed I'd even stay put then. There aren't many phones that appeal to me like the Z2. It's downright sexy, screen is now tolerable with the viewing angles and it is just the right size for me. All I would personally change is either 32/64 internal as my games are a few gigs and an amoled screen. I just got too used to the oversaturation of them.
Well. The z3 looks very nice is thinner than the z2 and also lighter. That's the major difference. Design. Software and camera is almost identical as performance too. Display on the z3 I think is slightly better but not 100% sure. The z2 display is good too. Camera is the same thing. With a two or three new features mostly the downloadable apps for the camera. Battery it is better on the z3 the z2 is not bad. So I decided to sell it. I might get the z3 compact I don't think is worth it unless u love the design and the ps4 feature. Which is not out yet. Grrrr I couldn't test that.
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Well. The z3 looks very nice is thinker than three z2 and also lighter. That's the major difference. Design. Software and camera is almost identical as performance too. Display on the z3 I think is slightly better but not 100% sure. The z2 display is good too. Camera is the same thing. With a two or three new features mostly the downloadable apps for the camera. Battery it is better on the z3 the z2 is not bad. So I decided to sell it. I might get the z3 compact I don't think is worth it unless u love the design and the ps4 feature. Which is not out yet. Grrrr I couldn't test that.
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Agree! Small update over Z2. With 4.4.4 Z2's battery performace will be as good as Z3.
And if Z2 gets good update to 4.4.4 (at it definitely will), differences will be even harder to see
But, as we said few times already - Z3 isn't here for Z2 users.
It's aiming to Z and Z1 users...
The fact that both devices are mirror images of themselves was known the day the specs of the z3 got confirmed.
Most of the differences are software based and that will narrow significantly once the z2 gets updated.
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Good thing I went with the Z2 three weeks ago, I saved 150 euro ?
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Good thing I went with the Z2 three weeks ago, I saved 150 euro ?
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I wouldn't really say dats a good thing. Z2 price will drop. If I was going to buy a phone right now, I will be getting the Z3. But as I have the Z2 now, NO!
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I wouldn't really say dats a good thing. Z2 price will drop. If I was going to buy a phone right now, I will be getting the Z3. But as I have the Z2 now, NO!
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What he was trying to say is that he prefers the z2 at €150 less. Makes perfect sense to me. Who wouldn't?
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What he was trying to say is that he prefers the z2 at €150 less. Makes perfect sense to me. Who wouldn't?
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Yh. Is quite a margin i must confess. Tempting really. But here in West Africa, when a newer device comes the older one gets a HUGE price drop and resale value is almost nothing. Well. Speaking from my own point of view. I resell my devices. But anyways, i was never gonna upgrade to the Z3 anyways.. Even Z4 not sure, i want to see what M9 looks like. I think i prefer my devices stay a flagship for a whole year
P.S: You said 'He' but i think it's a lady. Lol.
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Yh. Is quite a margin i must confess. Tempting really. But here in West Africa, when a newer device comes the older one gets a HUGE price drop and resale value is almost nothing. Well. Speaking from my own point of view. I resell my devices. But anyways, i was never gonna upgrade to the Z3 anyways.. Even Z4 not sure, i want to see what M9 looks like. I think i prefer my devices stay a flagship for a whole year
P.S: You said 'He' but i think it's a lady. Lol.
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I'll second that. I'm no fan of Sony's 6 month nonsense either. It's got me thinking of trying the s6 next year. Don't trust htc on the camera front. Their phones have never had good cameras and that's even before ultrapixels bull****
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I'll second that. I'm no fan of Sony's 6 month nonsense either. It's got me thinking of trying the s6 next year. Don't trust htc on the camera front. Their phones have never had good cameras and that's even before ultrapixels bull****
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Lol. Exactly why I want to see what they have to offer really... But Z4 might be good tho. Oh well... Only time will tell
stanley08 said:
I wouldn't really say dats a good thing. Z2 price will drop. If I was going to buy a phone right now, I will be getting the Z3. But as I have the Z2 now, NO!
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Funny you should say that. I've just bought a new Z2, primarily because the phones were so similar and the Z2 was cheaper. I didn't see any reason to go for the Z3 other than better battery life.
The Z3 has remote play and such like, but that WILL come to the Z2, either by Sony themselves or by some talented individual on these very forums.
I also like the styling of the Z2 better. The Z3 looks too much like the new iphone for my tastes.
Battery life isn't an issue for me because my phone is plugged in every night anyway.
And anyway, it's only six months wait till the Z4.....
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ianrobbie said:
Funny you should say that. I've just bought a new Z2, primarily because the phones were so similar and the Z2 was cheaper. I didn't see any reason to go for the Z3 other than better battery life.
The Z3 has remote play and such like, but that WILL come to the Z2, either by Sony themselves or by some talented individual on these very forums.
I also like the styling of the Z2 better. The Z3 looks too much like the new iphone for my tastes.
Battery life isn't an issue for me because my phone is plugged in every night anyway.
And anyway, it's only six months wait till the Z4.....
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Unlcoked bootloader, didn't backup TA. Camera is better than HTC M8, I'm not a photographer. So I'm living Happily ever after.
hehehe saved my pocket too! Will stay on Z2 until Z5 which most probably will be a copy of Z4
ianrobbie said:
Funny you should say that. I've just bought a new Z2, primarily because the phones were so similar and the Z2 was cheaper. I didn't see any reason to go for the Z3 other than better battery life.
The Z3 has remote play and such like, but that WILL come to the Z2, either by Sony themselves or by some talented individual on these very forums.
I also like the styling of the Z2 better. The Z3 looks too much like the new iphone for my tastes.
Battery life isn't an issue for me because my phone is plugged in every night anyway.
And anyway, it's only six months wait till the Z4.....
Quick Edit - I see by your signature that you have unlocked your bootloader. Have you seen any difference in the Camera or other DRM protected apps since you did it? Also, I take it you backed up your TA? Was it easy to do?
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There is definitely a difference in picture quality, especially in low light pictures. Backing up the Ta partition is easy though. You just need to root first. Can restore at any time.
I was scared to get the z2 in July not knowing what the z3/next version would be like. I'm glad to hear I didn't make a totally horrible decision.
Does it really give you 2 days battery life?
ajftl said:
Well. The z3 looks very nice is thinner than the z2 and also lighter. That's the major difference. Design. Software and camera is almost identical as performance too. Display on the z3 I think is slightly better but not 100% sure. The z2 display is good too. Camera is the same thing. With a two or three new features mostly the downloadable apps for the camera. Battery it is better on the z3 the z2 is not bad. So I decided to sell it. I might get the z3 compact I don't think is worth it unless u love the design and the ps4 feature. Which is not out yet. Grrrr I couldn't test that.
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Hmm, i disagree. The differences are noticeable, but not enough to get envious of Z3 owners. Source: Wife has one and I set it up for her.
4.4.4 will address the differences in the software. Flashlight on quick settings, many more headphones listed in audio, etc
The screen is brighter and whiter, with precisely the same Nova settings on wife's z3 and my z2, hers is noticeably quicker and responsive - I'd say 10% quicker.
I have to say, I am jealous of the build quality - the covers on the side are recessed a little, so removing the phone from a pouch doesn't dislodge them occasionally.
Once 4.4.4 comes along, I'll be very happy. I bought some STH30 earphones and was disappointed that my z2 doesn't list them. Wife's z3 audio is much clearer than mine with the same headphones. Software no doubt, but she has the STH30 phones listed and it makes the difference somewhere.
The phones are different. In a lot of ways.
MichaelWT said:
Hmm, i disagree. The differences are noticeable, but not enough to get envious of Z3 owners. Source: Wife has one and I set it up for her.
4.4.4 will address the differences in the software. Flashlight on quick settings, many more headphones listed in audio, etc
The screen is brighter and whiter, with precisely the same Nova settings on wife's z3 and my z2, hers is noticeably quicker and responsive - I'd say 10% quicker.
I have to say, I am jealous of the build quality - the covers on the side are recessed a little, so removing the phone from a pouch doesn't dislodge them occasionally.
Once 4.4.4 comes along, I'll be very happy. I bought some STH30 earphones and was disappointed that my z2 doesn't list them. Wife's z3 audio is much clearer than mine with the same headphones. Software no doubt, but she has the STH30 phones listed and it makes the difference somewhere.
The phones are different. In a lot of ways.
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how about the battery performance? is it noticeably better on the z3?
rotsloeh said:
how about the battery performance? is it noticeably better on the z3?
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Z2 and Z3 battery is different too. We both always get 7hrs screen on time, but wife plays *a lot* of games.
Last time we both compared, I was impressed with my 8hrs screen on time (6% batt left) and she was 10% battery up and at 8hrs46 screen on time. Not sure what she did with it those 2 days uptime though, but gaming in there no doubt.
Hope we get the z3 battery algorithms in 4.4.4!
I can't get 8 hours screen on time because if my screen is on, I'm transmitting data. I use my phone only for phone calls or chatting (sending pictures, videos, taking pictures and sharing them, etc). I get about 5-6 hours of screen on time which is just FANTASTIC in my opinion! I'm on the Z2 by the way.
I bought the Z3 due to its advanced features such as the camera and the hi-res audio. In the end, Z2 got ALL the key features from Z3 today after a software update. Quite pissed off
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you get a phone with sexier design and better battery life!
Lets hope the next firmware for z3 can pull the gap between Z2 & Z3. Both phones are too similar in specs and almost the same in Software!!
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Better battery life too, coming from a Z1, the Z3 is definitely worth the upgrade
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Z1 to Z3 maybe a big upgrade but Z2 to Z3 is not worth it, you should have waited for Z4 which comes Feb/Mar with major changes.
abhinav.tella said:
Z1 to Z3 maybe a big upgrade but Z2 to Z3 is not worth it, you should have waited for Z4 which comes Feb/Mar with major changes.
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Z4 will be nice, but screen size will be bigger though (5.5" expected).
hanime said:
Z4 will be nice, but screen size though.
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Rumors are its QHD, I hope not because they did the same with the G3 and it took a big hit in battery life compared to the G2, for not much gain in visual quality, not to mention increased heat due the display causing overheating.
abhinav.tella said:
Rumors are its QHD, I hope not because they did the same with the G3 and it took a big hit in battery life compared to the G2, for not much gain in visual quality, not to mention increased heat due the display causing overheating.
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And QHD is basically useless as far as I can tell on a smartphone screen (even at 6"). Our eyes can only distinguish so much.
finoqq84 said:
I bought the Z3 due to its advanced features such as the camera and the hi-res audio. In the end, Z2 got ALL the key features from Z3 today after a software update. Quite pissed off
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I myself was thinking about z2 over z3, but the z3 was made to cover up all the bads of z2
Screen brightness what i saw on z2 wasn't anything special, it's much brighter on z3
Speakers are louder
Sleeker body, aluminium frame
Better snapdragon 801 chip
And much more
The only downgrade i found out was i cannot write with a pencil on the z3
Coming from the z ultra, i had considered both Z2 and z3. I know much of the new things are software enhancements only and will likely go down to the z2 as well.
However I decided on the z3 because it looks and feels so much nicer
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That's why I went from the Z1 to the Z2 instead for the Z3, I got almost the same phone and I bought new headphones and 128gb SD card with the money saved ?
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This is just an cycle, when Z4 comes out, Z3 will scream for Z4 features and why Sony port it, Z4 users will be pissed.
So does who are disappointed :
Can I confirm you guys will not rant if Sony didn't bring Z4 features to Z3??
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As someone who upgraded from the Z2 to the Z3, I'm really glad to see Sony supporting their devices and backporting the features that they can. It takes nothing away from the Z3 and improves the brand overall.
se1000 said:
As someone who upgraded from the Z2 to the Z3, I'm really glad to see Sony supporting their devices and backporting the features that they can. It takes nothing away from the Z3 and improves the brand overall.
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Well stated, I also upgraded from Z2 to Z3 and will upgrade to Z4 when it arrives. I have a large family and they appreciate the hand downs
augie7107 said:
Well stated, I also upgraded from Z2 to Z3 and will upgrade to Z4 when it arrives. I have a large family and they appreciate the hand downs
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You're lucky, lol.
Sorry this is not relevant, but where did you guys get the Z3? I'm so confused now, I don't even know where to buy it
bluesky2111 said:
Sorry this is not relevant, but where did you guys get the Z3? I'm so confused now, I don't even know where to buy it
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Which carrier are you on?
Upgraded from Z1 to Z3 seems a better deal than Z2 to Z3. The specs of 2 and 3 are so similar!!!
I am still using my Z1 btw because I rooted my Z1 to allow me to move stuff to SD cards, now waitjng for easy 1click ways to root Z3
I also upgraded from z2 to z3. I wouldnt really upgrade tbh if my contract would not end few weeks ago, and I can really tell that it is a little upgrade only on paper. Phone looks and feels much better, its thinnier and lighter, and rounded sides make holding it more comfortable. I could not live without root so I unlocked a bootloader and rooted it, and camera is still good enough for me. The only thing that pisses me of is that ps4 remote play doesnt work with unlocked bootloader
I also upgraded from z2 to z3. I wouldnt really upgrade tbh if my contract would not end few weeks ago, and I can really tell that it is a little upgrade only on paper. Phone looks and feels much better, its thinnier and lighter, and rounded sides make holding it more comfortable. I could not live without root so I unlocked a bootloader and rooted it, and camera is still good enough for me. The only thing that pisses me of is that ps4 remote play doesnt work with unlocked bootloader
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How about improved battery life?