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Guys,
All of a sudden (last few days) I've been receiving a huge delay in SMS delivery to myself (anything up to 24 hours). I've tried the SIM in another handset (different model) and had no issues. There seems to be nothing wrong with Vodafone UK's service currently so it's a setting on my handset.
The only thing I have fiddled with is the data connections in terms of automatically firing up to drag down my emails over GPRS/3G/HSDPA whatever is available.
I think that the 3G network is causing the issue but I'm not sure how to test.
Please help
Thanks
I had similar issue after roaming in another country. The problem just disappeared in few days. As usual I'm not sure about this - you can avoid 3g by Start>Settings>Phone>Band>Select your network type. Change it from AUTO to GSM. This worked for me when my provider was doing maintenance of its 3G service.
Yup happpens to me all the time, i make a call and recieve loads a texts!!
just an update - i hard reset as my sim worked in another phone and this seemed to sort the issue....rather worried it might come back though!
I have now for the second time the problem that I have many little data roaming connections while abroad, despite data roaming is deactivated in Android. They are so small (always exactly 30 kB, which seems to be the smallest quantity my provider is billing) that it's virtually impossible to produce them with normal traffic. I always have much larger data connections, even without using my phone (at least 100kB up to 1MB and even more if I use it, of course). In this case I had 9 of those connections while little more than 24h. Last time when I had this problem half a year ago, I had those connections for an entire week with the same frequency (~10 per day).
In both incidents there was an OTA update available for the Nexus 4. This time I received the update notification at some point during my stay abroad. I had wifi connection most of the time, so I assume the update was downloaded using the wifi connection (the roaming traffic is too small for the update by far). I did not install the update until I returned back home. Last time my phone wasn't able to download the OTA update, since I had a custom rom installed at that time. It is possible that it tried downloading the OTA update for the entire stay back then (and even before and after - I noticed increased traffic over normal mobile internet at home). I switched back to the stock rom a while ago and thus was now able again to receive official OTA updates.
This time I was staying for 8 days in Chile, last time was around one week of Italy. My provider is Orange Switzerland.
What can be the cause of this? I am absolutely certain that data roaming was disabled in Android both times. Could it be that Android somehow bypasses the disabled roaming when checking for OTA updates? But it would have to do it when already knowing there is an update, so what's the point of doing this? Or could it be a provider initiated connection to notify the phone of the update? What can I do to prevent this from happening in future?
Thanks for any input!
Martin
Are you disabling mobile data and roaming or just roaming?
You could also try deleting or changing your default apn to prevent this from happening.
When I travel outside of Canada, I do not incurr any roaming charges when I turn off mobile data and roaming,
Thanks for the reply. I just disabled data roaming. I am abroad quite a lot, apart from these two incidents I never had any unexpected roaming charges. It must be somehow connected to the OTA update.
I will try disabling mobile data next time, maybe also disabling updates. But I also would like to understand how this can happen. Would it actually be possible that my provider initiates data connections to push the update notification? On the other hand my phone doesn't make those connections all the time, so it cannot just be the regular checking for updates. If it just received the notification via wifi, it would have downloaded the update via wifi immediately. So there must be some kind of mechanism I do not understand.
I also noticed that some of those roaming data connections occurred during the night, when I actually had wifi in the hotel for sure. This doesn't make any sense to me at all...
I don't want to take a chance so I disable all data connections, including roaming, as well as sync, software and app updates, and anything else I can think of that might try to access the data network.
Disabling sync etc. is not an option, since I want to use it via wifi. Besides, this must be either a bug in the Android update mechanism (which is persistent over some versions apparently) or my provider is doing something stupid. In the first case I would like to inform the devs, in the second case I won't pay for the data roaming, since I wouldn't be responsible for it.
Any ideas how to find out which one is true? Is here by chance anyone who either
a) has received a bill with many very small data roaming connections despite roaming was disabled while an OTA update was rolled out, or
b) was on the contrary abroad while the OTA update was rolled out and received the update notification via wifi, and has not seen any such roaming connections on the bill?
Thank you very much!
Wow, I can't even imagine worrying about overages and roaming charges... T-Mobile FTW!
Which custom ROM are you running? If it's not stock, there shouldn't be anything that has to do with an OTA, unless that functionality is not removed for some odd reason. Does the data usage utility show any useful information?
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Which custom ROM are you running?
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I am on stock right now. During the first incident I ran some stock ROM, but I no longer remember which one. The data usage shows me Android OS would have transferred a 15.65 KB.
Edit: T-Mobile has no roaming charges if you are outside the US?
Have the same problem. Just one week ago I was on holiday. They also charged me twice for a 30 KB connection on different days (Orange Swizerland). I first thought it's maybe because I installed a custom rom but it also happened to my brother whose phone is 100% stock.
Did you found a solution?
Regards
Interesting. So it is an Orange problem after all...
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Did you found a solution?
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Not really. I now disabled the OTA update service (using the disable service app), so this cannot happen any more (I believe). Also I will switch to another provider at the end of this month, so if Orange is doing something strange, I will no longer be affected.
Same thing happened to me this month on my Nexus 6P on android 7.1
It used between 0.00mb and 0.04 mb (according to my data usage logs from the telephone company) (Telus)
Any other person figured out how this could happen and what's the solution?
had this last month. On Oreo 8.1 Stock + root Essential Phone (see here for details) https://forum.xda-developers.com/essential-phone/help/data-roaming-charges-despite-disabled-t3796715
Anybody has an idea?
Hi guys,
Getting this message upon connevting to virtually every wireless network sinse rootibg my phone, is there a root tweak to disable betwork quality checking ? On a G900F
Thanks
Anyone?
You should be able to turn off smart network switching under wifi settings that will solve it.
Nice one thank you! I will see what happens!
turning off smart networks helps, but if the wifi signal is too poor it will not connect anyway
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turning off smart networks helps, but if the wifi signal is too poor it will not connect anyway
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u cannot change that.
ready to connect when network quality improves
We have two Galaxy 5s in our home (AT&T and T-Mobile). Both just started getting this message last night. "ready to connect when network quality improves"
Its multiple access points, multiple networks. Eating battery like crazy. Dropping and reestablishing connections to WiFi every 15 to 60 seconds.
Pain in the @zz
Turn off "smart network switch"
I also started getting "ready to connect when network quality improves" messages constantly as the network connected and disconnected. Turning off the "smart network switch" option fixed the problem. I also leave the annoying Samsung Connections Optimizer turned off.
Smart Network Switch Off?
I just got my S5 about 6 weeks ago. I have had NO issues until this week. A few days ago, even though wifi notifications were turned OFF - I kept getting this "connected to network name" message on the bottom of my phone. When I went into wifi settings this morning, I noticed it would switch from connected (very strong signal strength) to "waiting for signal quality to improve". It constantly goes back and forth - 5 seconds or so on each. This is not an issue on any other device connected to the wifi router at my home and I just tried it at work - happens here too.
I checked to make sure wifi notifications were off - they were - but the pop up still appears over and over. I think that's another issue separate from this because if notifications are off you should not be getting any!
I have done as suggested here and turned off the smart network switch, however, does that now mean that I will be switched back and forth every 5 seconds from data to wifi? That defeats the purpose of connecting to wifi to save on monthly data plan charges.
AFTER noticing this problem this morning, I went to see if there were any software updates - there were (Lollipop). I did download that, but no change.
How does turning this off affect where my phone pulls from? Uses data or wifi?
Thanks for any help!
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I just got my S5 about 6 weeks ago. I have had NO issues until this week. A few days ago, even though wifi notifications were turned OFF - I kept getting this "connected to network name" message on the bottom of my phone. When I went into wifi settings this morning, I noticed it would switch from connected (very strong signal strength) to "waiting for signal quality to improve". It constantly goes back and forth - 5 seconds or so on each. This is not an issue on any other device connected to the wifi router at my home and I just tried it at work - happens here too.
I checked to make sure wifi notifications were off - they were - but the pop up still appears over and over. I think that's another issue separate from this because if notifications are off you should not be getting any!
I have done as suggested here and turned off the smart network switch, however, does that now mean that I will be switched back and forth every 5 seconds from data to wifi? That defeats the purpose of connecting to wifi to save on monthly data plan charges.
AFTER noticing this problem this morning, I went to see if there were any software updates - there were (Lollipop). I did download that, but no change.
How does turning this off affect where my phone pulls from? Uses data or wifi?
Thanks for any help!
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+1 with exact same timelines/symptoms and upgraded to Lollipop and no diff too.
I started getting this message on my S5 last night! The connection will hold for about 10-15 seconds before reverting to LTE.
Tried resetting router settings, playing with different wireless settings - changing channel width and turning the visibility on and off.
Then "forgot" the network and readded it again.
It seems to be holding a stable connection without it dropping and was able to download a few items from the play store without dropping.
Will update if it changes.
Same here S5 900F
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+1 with exact same timelines/symptoms and upgraded to Lollipop and no diff too.
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Exactly the same issue / model / timing / battery issue !
Is there a bomb timer on that mobile ?
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+1 with exact same timelines/symptoms and upgraded to Lollipop and no diff too.
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Me too - I've been searching for weeks to figure this out - tried every known fix .... nothing has helped. I've even reset/changed/updated my wifi settings on my router. Nothing has helped. My S5 is the only one that has this problem. Other phones in the house have no problem - S4 and others.... I just don't know whats going on. I maxed my data avoiding this issue - but I really need a fix for it.
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Me too - I've been searching for weeks to figure this out - tried every known fix .... nothing has helped. I've even reset/changed/updated my wifi settings on my router. Nothing has helped. My S5 is the only one that has this problem. Other phones in the house have no problem - S4 and others.... I just don't know whats going on. I maxed my data avoiding this issue - but I really need a fix for it.
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This problem was driving me insane......I had it and managed to fix it (hopefully been going ok for three days now) I have a samsung Galaxy S5 on EE.....I backed everythingh up and did a factory data reset. Hope this helps.
I have a Galaxy S6 and have the exact same issue. I have called Samsung, my carrier (US Cellular), and tried a local place to get it fixed, but no one has ever heard of this issue. Amazon Photos was hogging a lot of bandwidth and backing up on wifi only so I stopped using that. Still not much of an effect. Using FB or a video is almost impossible because they won't load or refresh. I've tried all of the suggestions, but don't see a final fix. Can anyone help? This is my second S6 with the issue.
Hi there!
I was just charged again for data roaming while absolutely all data in my G2 was disabled (both checkboxes roaming and data were off). This is very frustrating, as this time it was a long trip and I was charged more than 50 USD equiv of roaming charges . What I can detect is that it is billed twice separately each time it connects i.e. while roaming I can see two separate 50kB packets charged in one minute and in my home network I can see two 512kB packets billed separately in one minute. It happens randomly, around 5 to 10 times a day. I am suspecting it has to do do something with location or location history because previously it stopped when I disabled location in the top bar during roaming (or roamed to another country). I think it started happening when I've upgraded to Lollipop earlier this year. My model is LG-D802 and software is V30b-260-01. Wonder if it could be malicious software, bug in Lollipop, or something else? Did anyone experienced such problem before? I will eventually call the hotline (Lg or operator) but I need cold facts as otherwise they will start blaming everyone including their mothers just to get rid of me (yes, this is how it works in some European countries... ).
So, Dear XDA users, do you have time for small investigation?
Cheers,
Marcin
Are you the one turning off the data? Why not use Airplane mode? I'd call your service provider first then go from there.
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Yep, roaming was always off but data is the thing I turn off. I cannot use airplane mode all the time because wifi does not work and you actually cannot receive any calls. I think better idea would be to intentionally provide false APN data. But that is not the answer to rhe question, I need to find what is the root cause of those connections? I can factory reset the phone and try again if it will happen again it would be definitely software/bb related...
Hello,
I've had this issue across more than 1 device and more than 1 carrier.
Here's what happens:
I enable WiFi, and for a while everything works as expected. I can send and receive MMS messages. I can disable WiFi and go back to my 4G connection.
The problem is, after an unknown amount of time, the phone drops the 4G connection in the background. I only know when I can't receive/send MMS messages anymore. At that point, if I disable WiFI there's no 4G data connection, and I have to turn Airplane mode off and turn it back on.
This is really annoying. It happened to me using Sprint and a Galaxy S4 (both stock and custom ROMs) and it's happening to me with a Galaxy S5 from MetroPCS. (I've used the stock Metro ROMs, Stock T-mobile ROMs, and Custom T-mobile ROMs).
Right now I'm using a Stock T-mobile ROM with the latest firmware, carrier is MetroPCS.
What can I do so this doesn't happen? It's really frustrating.
Thank you for your time.
Disabled "Smart Network Switch" in WiFi Settings?
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Disabled "Smart Network Switch" in WiFi Settings?
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Hello.
That's already disabled.
Should I enable it?
I tried with "smart network switch" enabled and disabled and problem still happened.
My S5 G900F Android 5.00 (Smart Network Switch disabled, Power Save disabled) on EE UK has had this problem for 9 months after phone upgraded itself to Lollipop (EE win the accolade to being the SLOWEST ON THE PLANET to provide Android updates.....). Since Jan 3, my wife's G901, a couple of weeks after it upgraded from 5.0 to 5.02, has developed the same problem. Neither phone has ever been rooted or other.
I have fruitlessly searched everywhere for a solution without success. EE Customer Services Tier 2 & Samsung's own service centre have failed to fix it. EE & Samsung blame each other for 5.1 or 5.1.1 not being available for download. Neither is prepared to resolve the issue despite hours on the phone. Have tried Safe Mode, Factory Reset, clearing everything, reloading APNs & Samsung even reloaded Android. All a waste of time: Many many days of it!
After approx half an hour connected to Wi-Fi, only way to get the mobile data to connect, is either reboot, enter & exit Air-plane mode or flip the 4G > 3G > 4G connection under More Networks. Have tested the fault in different cell areas countries and continents; fault is same everywhere.
It seems there are quite a few sufferers of this problem.
Samsung S5 keeps losing data connection
I have the same problem. My new Samsung phone loses the data connection (even though data is turned on) and I can only re-connect by restarting the phone. The first EE shop I took it to couldn't help at all. The second gave me a new SIM - that didn't work. Then I tried online support and after 3.5 hours of my life, in which I was passed on from one person to another, they completed a factory re-set - which didn't work (and additionally lost all the personalisation of my screen and some of my contacts). So I now have a not-very-smart phone which I have to re-start every time I want to use data. This is a business contract and the phone is less than two months old, but I'm not getting any effective support from EE. Android version is 5.0.2
me too, since last update. and app 'phono' shows "mobile data off" not got a time on it, but when i leave wifi coverage, it wont reconnect to cell data 2g/3g/4g. flightmode toggle to restore.
Abandon hope if you have this intermittent mobile data problem!
...at least until there is a software update, though I have no idea if that will help.
I have now tried a new sim card, a factory reset, and a replacement phone - which was provided only because I'm a business customer and I found a sympathetic member of staff. *By the way, I was told that if you are personal customer they won't consider replacing your phone if it is more than a month old - even if you started complaining about the phone as soon as you got it, the chances are a month will have elapsed by the time they put you through the hoops of a new sim, reset etc - and then it is too late to insist on a replacement phone.
In any case the replacement phone didn't resolve the issue so I have reached* a dead end. My phone fails to connect to data after having been connected to wifi - you have to do it manually each time you move away from a wifi connnection. At first I was doing it by restarting the phone, but am now following the advice of someone else who has the same problem and am going into flight mode and out again. *
This is not satisfactory, and it seems from reading forums that EE are to blame for the problem rather than Samsung, but I'm not 100% sure about that.*
Possible solution that works, for me, at the moment!
Having suffered this issue of my S5 (SM-G901F) not connecting to mobile data after being on Wi-Fi for a while unless switching airplane mode on/off for a few weeks; although it has probably been happening since the update I received late December; I have tried all of the turn this switch off, factory resets (x2), etc, etc, etc. and Googled the issue without success.
I have found this thread interesting, and I even tried calling EE support only to be told "you have tried everything that we would tell you to do" and "it wouldn't be a sim card, or handset issue, sounds like software". The reply was basically that like-it or lump it until the 5.1 update is released "by Samsung not EE because EE do not release Android updates". [Perhaps EE don't release the updates, but the stock rom is tested by them and their bloatware added before they eventually release it!!!]
Following my last reset I tried selectively re-installing the apps I used incase that was causing the issue. No Luck!
One last thing I tried was to look at every system 'thing' that I could find which used/switched any part of the mobile/mobile data/wifi - in addition to the settings I had already tried (all of which were mentioned in this thread previously). One thing I could not find not mentioned here, or anywhere, was the VoWi-Fi call on/off which I had always set to on as I do not live in a great reception area. Calling over Wi-Fi is great when you don't have a strong mobile signal.
Having 'played' with this setting for the last 24 hours I have found that the VoWi-Fi on/off appears to be a possible cure - for me anyway.:fingers-crossed:
When VoWi-Fi was set to off and leaving the phone connected to Wi-Fi overnight, the S5 immediately switched to mobile data this morning when I turned the Wi-Fi off . It continued to switch between Wi-Fi and mobile data all morning whilst out and about in and out of Wi-Fi connections - Woop Woop!!!
I then tried switching VoWi-Fi on (with Wi-Fi on and at home), leaving the phone for a number of hours, only to find that when I turned Wi-Fi off the phone refused to connect to mobile data even with a 'decent' mobile signal. The only way to get it to connect was to go back to switching Airplane mode on/off.
Switched VoWi-Fi off again, left Wi-Fi connected, left the phone for a couple of hours, etc. and hey-presto immediately switched to mobile data when I turned the Wi-Fi off. [Dances around the room because he's got the S5 automatically switching to mobile data again. Even though I'm at home with a great fibre internet and strong Wi-Fi connection!!!]
I do not know if this could be a solution for the others who are suffering from this issue, but it appears to be a solution for me at the moment. I thought I would share as your previous posts have helped me and you all seem to be pulling your hair out; like I have been; trying to find a solution.
Try it, it may work, but don't shoot me if it doesn't!
It's encouraging to know that I'm not crazy. I've had this issue across two devices and carries.
John,
Thank for your suggestion about WiFi calling. Unfortunately, I always have it off! I never used it, so maybe I should try turning it on? We'll see lol.
At this point, I think this is going to be my last Galaxy line phone.
Is it wi-fi calling that's causing the problem?
I have wondered if there is a link with wi-fi calling, but haven't tested it properly. I signed up with ee and bought the Galaxy phone specifically so that I could use wifi calling, as the town where I live (in the Scottish Borders) doesn't get a mobile signal strong to work reliably indoors from any of the networks. I'll try turning off wi-fi calling to see if that sorts the data thing (though I see that for one person above it did not). That would mean I wouldn't get calls or texts when I'm at home so it would not be a permanent solution for me. But in fact the wi-fi calling is not reliable anyway....
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It's encouraging to know that I'm not crazy. I've had this issue across two devices and carries.
John,
Thank for your suggestion about WiFi calling. Unfortunately, I always have it off! I never used it, so maybe I should try turning it on? We'll see lol.
At this point, I think this is going to be my last Galaxy line phone.
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Brian,
You never know the way things are going with this issue; given that nobody seems to be able to pinpoint the fault; turning it on may just sort it!!!
still no change and its a pita.....