Unexpected data roaming charges when all data is off - G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi there!
I was just charged again for data roaming while absolutely all data in my G2 was disabled (both checkboxes roaming and data were off). This is very frustrating, as this time it was a long trip and I was charged more than 50 USD equiv of roaming charges . What I can detect is that it is billed twice separately each time it connects i.e. while roaming I can see two separate 50kB packets charged in one minute and in my home network I can see two 512kB packets billed separately in one minute. It happens randomly, around 5 to 10 times a day. I am suspecting it has to do do something with location or location history because previously it stopped when I disabled location in the top bar during roaming (or roamed to another country). I think it started happening when I've upgraded to Lollipop earlier this year. My model is LG-D802 and software is V30b-260-01. Wonder if it could be malicious software, bug in Lollipop, or something else? Did anyone experienced such problem before? I will eventually call the hotline (Lg or operator) but I need cold facts as otherwise they will start blaming everyone including their mothers just to get rid of me (yes, this is how it works in some European countries... ).
So, Dear XDA users, do you have time for small investigation?
Cheers,
Marcin

Are you the one turning off the data? Why not use Airplane mode? I'd call your service provider first then go from there.
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Yep, roaming was always off but data is the thing I turn off. I cannot use airplane mode all the time because wifi does not work and you actually cannot receive any calls. I think better idea would be to intentionally provide false APN data. But that is not the answer to rhe question, I need to find what is the root cause of those connections? I can factory reset the phone and try again if it will happen again it would be definitely software/bb related...

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Huge delay in SMS all of a sudden - help

Guys,
All of a sudden (last few days) I've been receiving a huge delay in SMS delivery to myself (anything up to 24 hours). I've tried the SIM in another handset (different model) and had no issues. There seems to be nothing wrong with Vodafone UK's service currently so it's a setting on my handset.
The only thing I have fiddled with is the data connections in terms of automatically firing up to drag down my emails over GPRS/3G/HSDPA whatever is available.
I think that the 3G network is causing the issue but I'm not sure how to test.
Please help
Thanks
I had similar issue after roaming in another country. The problem just disappeared in few days. As usual I'm not sure about this - you can avoid 3g by Start>Settings>Phone>Band>Select your network type. Change it from AUTO to GSM. This worked for me when my provider was doing maintenance of its 3G service.
Yup happpens to me all the time, i make a call and recieve loads a texts!!
just an update - i hard reset as my sim worked in another phone and this seemed to sort the issue....rather worried it might come back though!

[Q] Little data roaming despite disabled

I have now for the second time the problem that I have many little data roaming connections while abroad, despite data roaming is deactivated in Android. They are so small (always exactly 30 kB, which seems to be the smallest quantity my provider is billing) that it's virtually impossible to produce them with normal traffic. I always have much larger data connections, even without using my phone (at least 100kB up to 1MB and even more if I use it, of course). In this case I had 9 of those connections while little more than 24h. Last time when I had this problem half a year ago, I had those connections for an entire week with the same frequency (~10 per day).
In both incidents there was an OTA update available for the Nexus 4. This time I received the update notification at some point during my stay abroad. I had wifi connection most of the time, so I assume the update was downloaded using the wifi connection (the roaming traffic is too small for the update by far). I did not install the update until I returned back home. Last time my phone wasn't able to download the OTA update, since I had a custom rom installed at that time. It is possible that it tried downloading the OTA update for the entire stay back then (and even before and after - I noticed increased traffic over normal mobile internet at home). I switched back to the stock rom a while ago and thus was now able again to receive official OTA updates.
This time I was staying for 8 days in Chile, last time was around one week of Italy. My provider is Orange Switzerland.
What can be the cause of this? I am absolutely certain that data roaming was disabled in Android both times. Could it be that Android somehow bypasses the disabled roaming when checking for OTA updates? But it would have to do it when already knowing there is an update, so what's the point of doing this? Or could it be a provider initiated connection to notify the phone of the update? What can I do to prevent this from happening in future?
Thanks for any input!
Martin
Are you disabling mobile data and roaming or just roaming?
You could also try deleting or changing your default apn to prevent this from happening.
When I travel outside of Canada, I do not incurr any roaming charges when I turn off mobile data and roaming,
Thanks for the reply. I just disabled data roaming. I am abroad quite a lot, apart from these two incidents I never had any unexpected roaming charges. It must be somehow connected to the OTA update.
I will try disabling mobile data next time, maybe also disabling updates. But I also would like to understand how this can happen. Would it actually be possible that my provider initiates data connections to push the update notification? On the other hand my phone doesn't make those connections all the time, so it cannot just be the regular checking for updates. If it just received the notification via wifi, it would have downloaded the update via wifi immediately. So there must be some kind of mechanism I do not understand.
I also noticed that some of those roaming data connections occurred during the night, when I actually had wifi in the hotel for sure. This doesn't make any sense to me at all...
I don't want to take a chance so I disable all data connections, including roaming, as well as sync, software and app updates, and anything else I can think of that might try to access the data network.
Disabling sync etc. is not an option, since I want to use it via wifi. Besides, this must be either a bug in the Android update mechanism (which is persistent over some versions apparently) or my provider is doing something stupid. In the first case I would like to inform the devs, in the second case I won't pay for the data roaming, since I wouldn't be responsible for it.
Any ideas how to find out which one is true? Is here by chance anyone who either
a) has received a bill with many very small data roaming connections despite roaming was disabled while an OTA update was rolled out, or
b) was on the contrary abroad while the OTA update was rolled out and received the update notification via wifi, and has not seen any such roaming connections on the bill?
Thank you very much!
Wow, I can't even imagine worrying about overages and roaming charges... T-Mobile FTW!
Which custom ROM are you running? If it's not stock, there shouldn't be anything that has to do with an OTA, unless that functionality is not removed for some odd reason. Does the data usage utility show any useful information?
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Which custom ROM are you running?
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I am on stock right now. During the first incident I ran some stock ROM, but I no longer remember which one. The data usage shows me Android OS would have transferred a 15.65 KB.
Edit: T-Mobile has no roaming charges if you are outside the US?
Have the same problem. Just one week ago I was on holiday. They also charged me twice for a 30 KB connection on different days (Orange Swizerland). I first thought it's maybe because I installed a custom rom but it also happened to my brother whose phone is 100% stock.
Did you found a solution?
Regards
Interesting. So it is an Orange problem after all...
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Did you found a solution?
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Not really. I now disabled the OTA update service (using the disable service app), so this cannot happen any more (I believe). Also I will switch to another provider at the end of this month, so if Orange is doing something strange, I will no longer be affected.
Same thing happened to me this month on my Nexus 6P on android 7.1
It used between 0.00mb and 0.04 mb (according to my data usage logs from the telephone company) (Telus)
Any other person figured out how this could happen and what's the solution?
had this last month. On Oreo 8.1 Stock + root Essential Phone (see here for details) https://forum.xda-developers.com/essential-phone/help/data-roaming-charges-despite-disabled-t3796715
Anybody has an idea?

Mobile data problem

Sadly its become apparent that something is wrong with my Yota 2, when losing the network signal when out in the sticks it will not reconnect mobile data when I'm back within decent network coverage, the voice and SMS work okay but the mobile data doesn't, even if i get full signal bars. Toggling Bluetooth and mobile data make no difference. The only cure is to turn the phone off an on then it fine until the next time.
I've checked my 3 UK APN settings and they are all as expected.
I've contacted yota support an they want me to send it to their service partner (premiere eurocom ) I have to send it at my expense and wait their diagnosis.....but I'm not sure how yota will be billed for this.
Has anyone else experienced the problem?
I'll try a factory reset before I send it, just in case...
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I didn't encounter such problems so far. I was a bit worried a few days ago, as my Yotaphone kept losing the GSM connection entirely (I was back to the PIN code input screen multiple times every day), but then it also did happen on my good old Ericsson t39m, so I suspect it was more an issue with the local GSM network.
Can you try with another SIM card (maybe even another carrier) to see if this happens regardless of the carrier?
Did you change something (apps, settings...) on your phone recently? I'm asking just in case, you certainly thought about that already, so don't get offended by such a basic question!
No worries.....Thanks for the input, what network are you on?
I tried a factory reset and that didn't make any difference, that should eliminate any fiddling or dodgy apps too, I tried the Sim back in my HTC One and it behaved perfectly in there, upon returning it to the Yotaphone I lost data comm twice in a matter of hours only reaquiring after turning the device off and on. I also double checked the Three UK apn settings and they are as they should be. I could try another network as nano sim are few and far between!
I've now returned it at my own expense (Thanks Yotaphone!) To their repair partner Premiere Eurocomm, I'm not sure what will happen now as for all I know it will pass their testing in their repair labs, I'm hoping they will just send a new device .
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Update......
I received a new phone under warranty, I set it all up and sadly exactly the same problem occurred. (Passing through an area of poor or no network service, the mobile data (3g or LTE) will not reconnect until the device is switched off and on again)
I now believe this is an incompatibility between Three UKs mobile data network and The Yotaphone firmware/hardware.
To crudely test this I bought a Vodafone payg sim and carried both my phones with me and these are my findings
HTC One M7 & Three UK sim......no problems.
HTC One M7 & Vodafone sim.....no problems.
Yotaphone 2 & Vodafone sim.......no problems.
Yotaphone 2 & Three UK sim....fails to reconnect.
So my options no seem to be;
Try for a refund on the device.
Change network to Vodafone.
Wait for a fix from Yota.
So I'll call the support line later today and see what they say. Could any UK users let me know what network you are on and if you have any similar problems please?
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Sorry for the delayed answer...
I'm using the Orange (France) network at home without any particular issue, the troubles only happen (so far) when I'm traveling abroad, which I frequently do for work.
I'll try to list more precisely which carriers are subject to network connection issues, although it's not easy to see which carrier you're roaming with (on my old Ericsson phone, the carrier name is displayed prominently on the screen, whereas you've got to dig in the menus on an Android phone to get the carrier's name...
Okay so I called yota support an updated them and as expected they just blamed Three, so only after asking for a refund did the agent pass the problem onto Yota for more technical help, I won't hold my breath waiting for contact but if nothing by the end of next week then I will be insisting on a refund. kind of spoiled my fun this has
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It would be a shame if they don't seize the opportunity to further dig into the subject and find out the technical cause. After all, they aim at a worldwide distribution of the Yotaphone 2, don't they? And it'd be a shame to see you go, too...
An update.....
I've not heard anything from Yota support but have made progress myself, I discovered in the mobile networks settings that you can select your network manually rather than automatic, by doing this two options for Three appear in the list, Three and Three UK.
I selected Three UK and since doing that the problem has not happened at all over three days of using the phone, including passing through the areas of no network coverage that would trigger the problem.
I'm hoping this is fixed.
Footnote: whilst sorting this problem I've been using my HTC One that has had its lollipop update and I'm loving the lollipop, can't wait to get it on the Yota
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Any more updates? Got my phone today and got the same problem.
I got Tele 2 in Sweden and it wont connect to 4G. It will get 3G connection but very weak signal and it will disconnect and reconnect atleast once each 5 minutes.
I did also set network in manual mode and it works better but not as to expect from a phone.
Im also going to try with another carrier but im kinda locked to my current one...
On a side note, I've had twice an issue with SMS and the YotaPhone 2.
I've received the same message over and over about 50 times, usually separated by a minute, but sometimes the message shows up again only after a couple of hours...
Not a big deal, but annoying nonetheless. I suspect that the local phone network (in Congo) is to blame, but I'd be curious to know if this has already happened to anyone else, as my other phone(s) do not display such behavior. I usually have the "Welcome to XXX network" SMS repeated a couple of times, too, in those situations, though usually not more than three or four times.
Filiox said:
Any more updates? Got my phone today and got the same problem.
I got Tele 2 in Sweden and it wont connect to 4G. It will get 3G connection but very weak signal and it will disconnect and reconnect atleast once each 5 minutes.
I did also set network in manual mode and it works better but not as to expect from a phone.
Im also going to try with another carrier but im kinda locked to my current one...
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I've not had any further problems since my earlier post, I set my network operator manually (rather than automatic) in mobile network settings and the problem stopped
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manmikey said:
An update.....
I've not heard anything from Yota support but have made progress myself, I discovered in the mobile networks settings that you can select your network manually rather than automatic, by doing this two options for Three appear in the list, Three and Three UK.
I selected Three UK and since doing that the problem has not happened at all over three days of using the phone, including passing through the areas of no network coverage that would trigger the problem.
I'm hoping this is fixed.
Footnote: whilst sorting this problem I've been using my HTC One that has had its lollipop update and I'm loving the lollipop, can't wait to get it on the Yota
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Please whats their customer care mail or phone number ive been searching all over for it my phone just died as well.
I'm having exactly the same problem, I've had my phone for three days and it already happened twice. Putting the phone on airplane mode does not solve it; I have to restart the phone. I only lose data connectivity, but I get signal and I can call just fine. Btw, I'm using the YD206 version with Jazztel in Spain.
I'll try now with the manual network selection and ser if the problem dissapears.
Having the same problem on 48 network in Ireland
ciaranco said:
Having the same problem on 48 network in Ireland
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Hello,
I have more or less the same problem ... but with no real solutions
After upgrading MM I lost the LTE signal but not all the time.
When I start my phone I have the LTE signal with good bandwith and good quality of reception.
After some time (5min, 15min, ... no really logic) or every time after driving with my car and I expect changing Emettor many time, I loose the data. I have no more LTE, H+, 3G etc... no more data and I loose a lot of quality of signal like my "modem" lost a lot of range of signal available.
I Flash and reflash MM and no solution.
When selection manually the operator, it change Nothing for me
When I change APN with a new one (2 APN are available for data (for french people SLSFR and WEBSFR)) the data is coming back but just few time.
When I come back the the first APN, data is not coming back until restarting the phone.
I have a third APN but with only 3G connection and with this one, I have no problem. Data is always available...
Really Strange. The problem is only due to LTE signal
For this moment, I will try with Lolipop if the problem don't occur anymore.
hello, my wife has the same issue, on sfr network. Any update ?
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hello, my wife has the same issue, on sfr network. Any update ?
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Hi Benetnath,
I find no issue with SFR.
I spoke with the customer service and they don't find any problem on the network.
I read a lot of forum and it seems that the problem is not only on Yotaphone but on lot of quite "old" phone.
They change some parameter on the network (what, I don't know, is it regarding the fact that we can travel everywhere yet in Europe using our data mobile...)
You can easyly find some post with looking about "SFR data probleme sl2sfr oneplus" through google
I expect that the problem is only on SFR but I can't be 100% sure.
Due to the problem seems to be a network "problem" or french network parameter, I think we will never have any answer or solution. It is sure that yet we will have no more update on yotaphone.
The only one solution I can give you today (avoiding changing operator ) is to use only the APN : Wapsfr
With this APN you will never be connected in 4G but only in 3G. No problem with cost or anything else (pas de risque de hors forfait) but in my case, the reception quality is really better in 4G with 800Mhz frequency that 3G in 2600MHz I believe.
Without 4G I can't receive anything inside my house.
I will keep you and the forum in touch if I find a solution.
Changing to an another operator is not so easy because for low price all the alternative operator like laposte mobile, pristel, NRJ or some other are often on SFR network with the same APN (so I suppose the same problems)
It is maybe also because SFR launched the VOLTE in June and the problem is more or less since this date.
VOLTE is maybe the problem ? When I receive a call I lose the data and she is not coming back
manmikey said:
Sadly its become apparent that something is wrong with my Yota 2, when losing the network signal when out in the sticks it will not reconnect mobile data when I'm back within decent network coverage, the voice and SMS work okay but the mobile data doesn't, even if i get full signal bars. Toggling Bluetooth and mobile data make no difference. The only cure is to turn the phone off an on then it fine until the next time.
I've checked my 3 UK APN settings and they are all as expected.
I've contacted yota support an they want me to send it to their service partner (premiere eurocom ) I have to send it at my expense and wait their diagnosis.....but I'm not sure how yota will be billed for this.
Has anyone else experienced the problem?
I'll try a factory reset before I send it, just in case...
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Hi, I have the same problem. And I think the problem go from Free : Before I had SFR and Bouygues, I never saw the problem.
Sometimes, just activate the plane mode, and desactivate it, and the LTE comming back. but another time, I have to reboot the Yota.
Hello xNiux;
With Free, I found also lot of data connection problem on Google.
The main problem with Free is that the mobile should sometime connect to a Free emettor and sometime to Orange.
So maybe your phone is not connected on the good emettor and it is the reason you lose your data connection. I can't be sure because I have not Free Mobile but it is what I wrote.
==> Maybe can you go to "choose operator" and select only Free...
For SFR it is a quite new issue, around june. Before I expected that it was a wrong ROM when I uploaded my phon to MM but it is not the reason.
Even with choosing manually the operator or use airplane mode, nothing is working. I need to restart or open/close my SIM card.
I make a "call" to the RED team to find a solution.
They wrote me this morning that now everything is fine and work well... but this morning I lose another time the connection.
For the moment :
Free is not working with Yotaphone
RED/ SFR is not working with Yotaphone
To be check with Bouygue or Orange to maybe choose an another operator ( I don't want to change my phone)

No data after having WiFi enabled for a while

Hello,
I've had this issue across more than 1 device and more than 1 carrier.
Here's what happens:
I enable WiFi, and for a while everything works as expected. I can send and receive MMS messages. I can disable WiFi and go back to my 4G connection.
The problem is, after an unknown amount of time, the phone drops the 4G connection in the background. I only know when I can't receive/send MMS messages anymore. At that point, if I disable WiFI there's no 4G data connection, and I have to turn Airplane mode off and turn it back on.
This is really annoying. It happened to me using Sprint and a Galaxy S4 (both stock and custom ROMs) and it's happening to me with a Galaxy S5 from MetroPCS. (I've used the stock Metro ROMs, Stock T-mobile ROMs, and Custom T-mobile ROMs).
Right now I'm using a Stock T-mobile ROM with the latest firmware, carrier is MetroPCS.
What can I do so this doesn't happen? It's really frustrating.
Thank you for your time.
Disabled "Smart Network Switch" in WiFi Settings?
*Detection* said:
Disabled "Smart Network Switch" in WiFi Settings?
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Hello.
That's already disabled.
Should I enable it?
I tried with "smart network switch" enabled and disabled and problem still happened.
My S5 G900F Android 5.00 (Smart Network Switch disabled, Power Save disabled) on EE UK has had this problem for 9 months after phone upgraded itself to Lollipop (EE win the accolade to being the SLOWEST ON THE PLANET to provide Android updates.....). Since Jan 3, my wife's G901, a couple of weeks after it upgraded from 5.0 to 5.02, has developed the same problem. Neither phone has ever been rooted or other.
I have fruitlessly searched everywhere for a solution without success. EE Customer Services Tier 2 & Samsung's own service centre have failed to fix it. EE & Samsung blame each other for 5.1 or 5.1.1 not being available for download. Neither is prepared to resolve the issue despite hours on the phone. Have tried Safe Mode, Factory Reset, clearing everything, reloading APNs & Samsung even reloaded Android. All a waste of time: Many many days of it!
After approx half an hour connected to Wi-Fi, only way to get the mobile data to connect, is either reboot, enter & exit Air-plane mode or flip the 4G > 3G > 4G connection under More Networks. Have tested the fault in different cell areas countries and continents; fault is same everywhere.
It seems there are quite a few sufferers of this problem.
Samsung S5 keeps losing data connection
I have the same problem. My new Samsung phone loses the data connection (even though data is turned on) and I can only re-connect by restarting the phone. The first EE shop I took it to couldn't help at all. The second gave me a new SIM - that didn't work. Then I tried online support and after 3.5 hours of my life, in which I was passed on from one person to another, they completed a factory re-set - which didn't work (and additionally lost all the personalisation of my screen and some of my contacts). So I now have a not-very-smart phone which I have to re-start every time I want to use data. This is a business contract and the phone is less than two months old, but I'm not getting any effective support from EE. Android version is 5.0.2
me too, since last update. and app 'phono' shows "mobile data off" not got a time on it, but when i leave wifi coverage, it wont reconnect to cell data 2g/3g/4g. flightmode toggle to restore.
Abandon hope if you have this intermittent mobile data problem!
...at least until there is a software update, though I have no idea if that will help.
I have now tried a new sim card, a factory reset, and a replacement phone - which was provided only because I'm a business customer and I found a sympathetic member of staff. *By the way, I was told that if you are personal customer they won't consider replacing your phone if it is more than a month old - even if you started complaining about the phone as soon as you got it, the chances are a month will have elapsed by the time they put you through the hoops of a new sim, reset etc - and then it is too late to insist on a replacement phone.
In any case the replacement phone didn't resolve the issue so I have reached* a dead end. My phone fails to connect to data after having been connected to wifi - you have to do it manually each time you move away from a wifi connnection. At first I was doing it by restarting the phone, but am now following the advice of someone else who has the same problem and am going into flight mode and out again. *
This is not satisfactory, and it seems from reading forums that EE are to blame for the problem rather than Samsung, but I'm not 100% sure about that.*
Possible solution that works, for me, at the moment!
Having suffered this issue of my S5 (SM-G901F) not connecting to mobile data after being on Wi-Fi for a while unless switching airplane mode on/off for a few weeks; although it has probably been happening since the update I received late December; I have tried all of the turn this switch off, factory resets (x2), etc, etc, etc. and Googled the issue without success.
I have found this thread interesting, and I even tried calling EE support only to be told "you have tried everything that we would tell you to do" and "it wouldn't be a sim card, or handset issue, sounds like software". The reply was basically that like-it or lump it until the 5.1 update is released "by Samsung not EE because EE do not release Android updates". [Perhaps EE don't release the updates, but the stock rom is tested by them and their bloatware added before they eventually release it!!!]
Following my last reset I tried selectively re-installing the apps I used incase that was causing the issue. No Luck!
One last thing I tried was to look at every system 'thing' that I could find which used/switched any part of the mobile/mobile data/wifi - in addition to the settings I had already tried (all of which were mentioned in this thread previously). One thing I could not find not mentioned here, or anywhere, was the VoWi-Fi call on/off which I had always set to on as I do not live in a great reception area. Calling over Wi-Fi is great when you don't have a strong mobile signal.
Having 'played' with this setting for the last 24 hours I have found that the VoWi-Fi on/off appears to be a possible cure - for me anyway.:fingers-crossed:
When VoWi-Fi was set to off and leaving the phone connected to Wi-Fi overnight, the S5 immediately switched to mobile data this morning when I turned the Wi-Fi off . It continued to switch between Wi-Fi and mobile data all morning whilst out and about in and out of Wi-Fi connections - Woop Woop!!!
I then tried switching VoWi-Fi on (with Wi-Fi on and at home), leaving the phone for a number of hours, only to find that when I turned Wi-Fi off the phone refused to connect to mobile data even with a 'decent' mobile signal. The only way to get it to connect was to go back to switching Airplane mode on/off.
Switched VoWi-Fi off again, left Wi-Fi connected, left the phone for a couple of hours, etc. and hey-presto immediately switched to mobile data when I turned the Wi-Fi off. [Dances around the room because he's got the S5 automatically switching to mobile data again. Even though I'm at home with a great fibre internet and strong Wi-Fi connection!!!]
I do not know if this could be a solution for the others who are suffering from this issue, but it appears to be a solution for me at the moment. I thought I would share as your previous posts have helped me and you all seem to be pulling your hair out; like I have been; trying to find a solution.
Try it, it may work, but don't shoot me if it doesn't!
It's encouraging to know that I'm not crazy. I've had this issue across two devices and carries.
John,
Thank for your suggestion about WiFi calling. Unfortunately, I always have it off! I never used it, so maybe I should try turning it on? We'll see lol.
At this point, I think this is going to be my last Galaxy line phone.
Is it wi-fi calling that's causing the problem?
I have wondered if there is a link with wi-fi calling, but haven't tested it properly. I signed up with ee and bought the Galaxy phone specifically so that I could use wifi calling, as the town where I live (in the Scottish Borders) doesn't get a mobile signal strong to work reliably indoors from any of the networks. I'll try turning off wi-fi calling to see if that sorts the data thing (though I see that for one person above it did not). That would mean I wouldn't get calls or texts when I'm at home so it would not be a permanent solution for me. But in fact the wi-fi calling is not reliable anyway....
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It's encouraging to know that I'm not crazy. I've had this issue across two devices and carries.
John,
Thank for your suggestion about WiFi calling. Unfortunately, I always have it off! I never used it, so maybe I should try turning it on? We'll see lol.
At this point, I think this is going to be my last Galaxy line phone.
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Brian,
You never know the way things are going with this issue; given that nobody seems to be able to pinpoint the fault; turning it on may just sort it!!!
still no change and its a pita.....

[Moto G4 with Amazon ads] Always losses carrier network after 24 hours

Hello everyone,
I just bought a Moto G4 16 GB with Amazon Ads for my wife, but we are facing a very annoying problem: the carrier signal always dies after 24 hours give or take. We tested with a different SIM card and the same thing happened. When this happens the device only shows "Emergency Calls Only" and we have to reboot the phone in order to get the signal back.
So, is anyone else facing this problem? Is this really a problem with this phone in particular or every moto g4 has this problem? Should I return the device to amazon?
Thank you very much for any information you can give me!
Zadornov said:
Hello everyone,
I just bought a Moto G4 16 GB with Amazon Ads for my wife, but we are facing a very annoying problem: the carrier signal always dies after 24 hours give or take. We tested with a different SIM card and the same thing happened. When this happens the device only shows "Emergency Calls Only" and we have to reboot the phone in order to get the signal back.
So, is anyone else facing this problem? Is this really a problem with this phone in particular or every moto g4 has this problem? Should I return the device to amazon?
Thank you very much for any information you can give me!
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No problems here since I got my phone last week and I have T-Mobile. You might have to check your apn settings with your carrier.
Caltinpla said:
No problems here since I got my phone last week and I have T-Mobile. You might have to check your apn settings with your carrier.
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I tested the SIM card in a different phone and it worked flawlessly (I also use T-Mobile). The strange thing is that the phone gets the signal very well during more or less one day, after that I have to reboot to get signal again.
Well, this is probably a problem in the device. I already asked Amazon to send a replacement.
Zadornov said:
I tested the SIM card in a different phone and it worked flawlessly (I also use T-Mobile). The strange thing is that the phone gets the signal very well during more or less one day, after that I have to reboot to get signal again.
Well, this is probably a problem in the device. I already asked Amazon to send a replacement.
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Try my APN settings to see if it helps, but locations very important
Zadornov said:
I tested the SIM card in a different phone and it worked flawlessly (I also use T-Mobile). The strange thing is that the phone gets the signal very well during more or less one day, after that I have to reboot to get signal again.
Well, this is probably a problem in the device. I already asked Amazon to send a replacement.
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I also have the cellular data always active checked off
Caltinpla said:
Try my APN settings to see if it helps, but locations very important
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Thank you, but I just use the t-mobile network. In fact, my carrier is called campusSIMs and it is a MVNO that uses t-mobile network. So, my APN configs are a bit different from yours.
However, I didn't know about this mobile data thing. I didn't touch the developer options. Maybe, it can be a good idea.
Thank you!
It won't be your APN settings since that controls your data settings. If the sim is ok then it could be your phone.
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I'm seeing a similar problem with the data portion of the network (also on T-Mobile). While I'm able to send and receive calls and texts, data doesn't work. There's no indication that it's attached to LTE or even 3G (just a standard signal bar with no other information). I moved the SIM card back to the old phone it was in and it works fine.
Things actually worked yesterday, so something happened overnight to break it.
Damaniel said:
I'm seeing a similar problem with the data portion of the network (also on T-Mobile). While I'm able to send and receive calls and texts, data doesn't work. There's no indication that it's attached to LTE or even 3G (just a standard signal bar with no other information). I moved the SIM card back to the old phone it was in and it works fine.
Things actually worked yesterday, so something happened overnight to break it.
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That could possible be the APN settings. Although usually it's the opposite, they don't work at first then they update from the network later on. Most times the APN settings will set themselves but on the odd occasion they need to manually edited. I don't use T-Mobile but the APN settings are easy enough to find.
Damaniel said:
I'm seeing a similar problem with the data portion of the network (also on T-Mobile). While I'm able to send and receive calls and texts, data doesn't work. There's no indication that it's attached to LTE or even 3G (just a standard signal bar with no other information). I moved the SIM card back to the old phone it was in and it works fine.
Things actually worked yesterday, so something happened overnight to break it.
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Sounds like you need to manually enter the APN settings. What you describe is exactly what happens when it hasn't loaded an APN.
I'm "kinda" having an issue here. It's a little different though; the phone works ok for a while (for me about 3 hours, usually), and then I still get an LTE indicator, but have no network connection (get errors in apps/"No internet" page in chrome).
Other times, I lose LTE and get locked in 3g (H indicator), and can only get LTE back by going to Settings/More/Cellular Networks/ and toggle preferred network mode to 2g or 3g, let it connect (H or E), then toggle back to LTE.
Motorola responded to a bad Amazon review requesting I post asking for help on their forums.
Relevant link:
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-G...ction-with-LTE-and-strong-signal/td-p/3377242
I'm active over on their forums also and it's good to post over there in case you ever want to do a soak test. They look at your posts there when they ask for soak testers. As for your problem, I've seen it shift back and forth if you are in an area between towers and one isn't sending out LTE. If it were that I wouldn't think you'd get it back so easily. There's an app, don't remember the name, that will show the towers and signal relative to your location, If might be interesting to look at that.
Having the same issue with radio. Just replied to your post, Kalash.
Ok, we got a new phone from Amazon and it has the same problem. So, I believe this phone does not work very well with MVNOs.
I notice that the problem is that the phone cannot reconnect to the network after losing the signal. For example, if you go to an area with bad signal and, eventually the signal vanishes, the phone will not be able to reconnect to the carrier network. The phone only reconnects after reboot. Airplane mode does not solve the problem.
This does not happen with my Blu Life One X. So, I think it is a software problem.
Zadornov said:
Ok, we got a new phone from Amazon and it has the same problem. So, I believe this phone does not work very well with MVNOs.
I notice that the problem is that the phone cannot reconnect to the network after losing the signal. For example, if you go to an area with bad signal and, eventually the signal vanishes, the phone will not be able to reconnect to the carrier network. The phone only reconnects after reboot. Airplane mode does not solve the problem.
This does not happen with my Blu Life One X. So, I think it is a software problem.
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That's not true on all mvnos' apparently. My wife's phone is on Consumer Cellular, an AT&T mvno and it's never done that. We've been in a no service area several times and it's always connected immediately when getting service back.

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