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[Q] Nexus 7 bluetooth support apt-x?

anyone know?

Sorry for the old bump, but I've googled this and can't find an answer. This is the only thread that shows up, so i figured it was better to bump than start a new one.
Few months have passed now since the launch of the Nexus 7, so can anyone answer this question yet?
Also, as I understand it, aptX is effectively a codec, presumably integrated into the bluetooth drivers. Thus, even if not supported already, is it an option in the future with a bit of hacking?
Cheers

_tangent said:
Sorry for the old bump, but I've googled this and can't find an answer. This is the only thread that shows up, so i figured it was better to bump than start a new one.
Few months have passed now since the launch of the Nexus 7, so can anyone answer this question yet?
Also, as I understand it, aptX is effectively a codec, presumably integrated into the bluetooth drivers. Thus, even if not supported already, is it an option in the future with a bit of hacking?
Cheers
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As is Nexus 7 doesn't support apt-x. I would love to see it in future updates or be able to at least get it some other way.
Using it with Creative WP-350 Headset at the moment, stock bluetooth provides nice sound quality so I can only imagine
how good would it be with apt-x running.
There's two problems I cant figure a fix for - noticeable delay in sound - in gaming very annoying, so that's one
cause I managed to get Mx Player play movies OK, no delay - while using H/W decoder (not the "+" one)
But the second thing is and its probably connected to the delay issue - when using the tablet - no music in the background - I can hear the headphones switching, when the sound is comming and going. Lets say I select any of the apps, or select touch one of the options, when I`m
about to hear the standard selection action sound, I'll hear the headphones switch on,I can hear static. play the sound and switch off again - no static.
All this with less than a second delay witch probably is the reason for even noticing the damn thing
Getting the Apt-X support and fixing the sound playback delay would be vital for my personal Full enjoyment of the Nexus.
well... maybe I'm forgetting to moan about partial existence of Play Store and Google Wallet in Europe (Ireland in my case)
thereof lack of 25 USD bonus with the purchase, and no access to the Free Transformers film
but that's for different thread

I'm in Europe too (Italy) but is possible to get the 25$ play store bonus using a vpn while registering your device,i red a guide somewhere here in xda to do this and it worked perfectly
Anyway I'd love to have apt-x codec support for nexus 7 and the audio delay through bluetotooth fix.. I hope somebody will figure out how to do this.

nexus 7 apt-x
mobiletechreview365.blogspot.com/2012/07/asus-google-nexus-7-review.html#.UPNmMvKmfxQ
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as a noob here. I'm prevented from posting outside links.
nexus 7 apt-x.
could you guys confirm?

New Nexus 7.2 with APT-X?
Does the new Nexus 7.2 support APT-X. codex.
APT-X is bluetooth that send music in CD qualify wireless.
All new high - end smartphones like HTC ONE and Samsung G3 and G4 have it, and together with a APT-X dongle (like QUE uPlay puck) connected to a amplifier or bluetooth speaker with built-in APT-X (like Klipch or Loeve2go) The sound is really great to listen to!
Nexus 7.2 is a low - budget tablet and there is no clue in tecnical spec. about APT-X . Does it support APT-X?

Bulgarien said:
Does the new Nexus 7.2 support APT-X. codex.
APT-X is bluetooth that send music in CD qualify wireless.
All new high - end smartphones like HTC ONE and Samsung G3 and G4 have it, and together with a APT-X dongle (like QUE uPlay puck) connected to a amplifier or bluetooth speaker with built-in APT-X (like Klipch or Loeve2go) The sound is really great to listen to!
Nexus 7.2 is a low - budget tablet and there is no clue in tecnical spec. about APT-X . Does it support APT-X?
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I tryed to hack this but with no luck i found how to modify bluez lib to be able to work with libbt-aptx but i do not have lib compiled for nexus 7. APT-X is a purly software decoder for audio and if your bt head set suport it then it is possible if some one can povide lib for nexus 7. And of cause this will be ileagal because CSR has contracts only with HTC and SAMSUNG

Nexus 7 apt-x transmission
Will hooking the nexus to an apt-x transmitter (eg: creative usb BT-D1) via an OTG cable help?

[Q] Nexus Playera Sound Problem

Hello.
My Nexus player works almost perfectly, but, if I am playing anything, suddenly the sound stop for a second an comes back. It happens during the whole video or song. I reset the player and look for answers in Google but I haven't found a solution.
What can I do?

Check to see if the HDMI connection on your receiver has MHL, I had to switch ports BC the one I was using had MHL and it would default my sound output to analog.... When I changed to a different HDMI connection the issues went away.

I tried all 6 of the ports on my onkyo receiver and they all had the sound issue, also tried a hand full of different HDMI cables. Called up Asus and they apparently haven't heard of the problem but they're willing to RMA my unit.

ke5pcv said:
I tried all 6 of the ports on my onkyo receiver and they all had the sound issue, also tried a hand full of different HDMI cables. Called up Asus and they apparently haven't heard of the problem but they're willing to RMA my unit.
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I've had the same issue on my TV. Haven't found a solution yet. Super aggravating. The issue only occurs on my TV regardless of using the built in speakers, or passing through the digital audio. The issue doesn't occur on another tv. I believe the issue stems from the way my TV processes the audio.

ke5pcv said:
I tried all 6 of the ports on my onkyo receiver and they all had the sound issue, also tried a hand full of different HDMI cables. Called up Asus and they apparently haven't heard of the problem but they're willing to RMA my unit.
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I'm using a Onkyo 626 and had issues until I moved to different HDMI port. Onkyo is known for HDMI issues so maybe you have a BSD receiver. Might want to also check the receiver firmware... Probably a long shot but who knows....

I ran into this same issue a few months ago. The only way I could fix this was by bypassing my receiver. I had to use the HDMI directly into my TV, then forward the audio to my receiver via optical cable.

irwinfeliz said:
Hello.
My Nexus player works almost perfectly, but, if I am playing anything, suddenly the sound stop for a second an comes back. It happens during the whole video or song. I reset the player and look for answers in Google but I haven't found a solution.
What can I do?
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irwinfeliz - We're very sorry you're having sound issues with your Nexus Player. Have you tried resetting the device? Please email us at [email protected] providing details of the issue, the troubleshooting steps that you've performed and the serial number of your Nexus Player.
If you have any further questions, comments or concerns please do not hesitate to let us know. You may reference this case number (N150378674) on your next contact. We will be more than happy to assist you.
Thank you.
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Multiple people have reported this issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-player/help/nexus-player-audio-dropout-t2942196
I noticed mine happened when connected to my Pioneer receiver but not when I connected directly to my TV (also worked fine through NP ->XB1 HDMI in -> Recevier -> TV). NOt sure why the receiver was the issue. I RMAd it and the replacement works better. I no longer get audio drops while watching video but I do notice that some audio doesnt come through like menu clicks but no longer happens when watching video or listening to music.

Thanks for your reply
I do have an Onkyo Home theater connected with HDMI. Even if the sound drops stop by connecting directly to the TV, I will need the Onkyo system anyway.
Munkee915 said:
Multiple people have reported this issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-player/help/nexus-player-audio-dropout-t2942196
I noticed mine happened when connected to my Pioneer receiver but not when I connected directly to my TV (also worked fine through NP ->XB1 HDMI in -> Recevier -> TV). NOt sure why the receiver was the issue. I RMAd it and the replacement works better. I no longer get audio drops while watching video but I do notice that some audio doesnt come through like menu clicks but no longer happens when watching video or listening to music.
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Supposably, they fixed the issue with my Nexus Player and it's on its way back. I will report back if it's fixed or not. The HDMI text always blinked on my onkyo reciever when the sound stuttered. My cable box, chromecast, and two other things have never had an issue.

ke5pcv said:
Supposably, they fixed the issue with my Nexus Player and it's on its way back. I will report back if it's fixed or not. The HDMI text always blinked on my onkyo reciever when the sound stuttered. My cable box, chromecast, and two other things have never had an issue.
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How did you get it out to them so quick? Yeah, let me know. This has been a deal breaker for me.

I called them twice to address this issue and the guy at the call center elevated the issue and told me to bring it to the nearest FedEx place and they'll pay for it. So, I got it shipped this last Monday. Got an email saying it was fixed. No details on what was wrong. Will post details if and or when I get them.

OK guys, I know nothing of what they fixed.Seeing that they just sent me a whole new bare box unit. I now have a spare Nexus Player box... 0.o
I plugged in the new Player and updated to 5.1, so far zero sound problems... Basically, from what I've seen; I'd recommend those whom have the audio problem to get their player RMA'd. I'll report back and complain again to ASUS if it stutters anymore.

Was the RMA done through ASUS? Did you have to send back the device (pay shipping costs)? What was the turnaround time to get back your Nexus Player? Thanks for your help.

Best Music Player for regular flac files, not high res?

What do people think is the best music player for the V20 for regular flac files, not high res? And do you use special settings?

PowerAmp

mikebz5 said:
PowerAmp
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Any particular settings you prefer on PowerAmp? Like DVC, resampler etc?

So I compared Poweramp (With SoX resampler enabled) with the LG Music App, playing Dire Straits "The man's too strong" and the music sounded clearer and fuller with the LG App (44 KHz 1469 KBPS). I ended up enabling Direct Volume Control on PowerAmp and that improved it.

I do have DVC selected for headphone and BT. Crossfade @ 3000ms and gapless. The equalizer and preamp settings work great. I also save preset equalizer settings for use depending on what vehicle I am driving. I only use wired connections as I can't stand the sound quality of ANY audio player using BT.
If your download and store your music locally from Amazon it will find it(No player can access cloud to my knowledge.). It does not work with downloaded Google Play music in my experience due to the unconventional file naming Google uses(I havent tried lately though.)
I've been using the paid version of PowerAmp since my HTC Evo. Its worth every penny. I have yet to find a better app for music.

Neutron is good it processes the music at 64 bit if you enable it.
Also if you have the v10 dac fix on Google play the dac will work with all apps not just lg
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mrtruckincowboy said:
Neutron is good it processes the music at 64 bit if you enable it.
Also if you have the v10 dac fix on Google play the dac will work with all apps not just lg
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I just thought I'd mention it but I personally like the layout of PlayerPro a little better than PowerAmp, I bought them both years ago and I think it's well worth having both of them but I'm not an audiophile by any stretch though either.
I have a question about the v10 dac fix if you wouldn't mind because I'm still confused about it, I was under the impression that if you have a higher end set of headphones or earphones it should kick in the dac no matter what music player you use, so I guess that's incorrect then? Also are there any visual clues that the dac is working? And what exactly is causing the volume controls to switch where it says "HI-FI"? I thought that meant dac was enabled and if so that happens whenever I plug in my headphones no matter what music player I'm using even though I've never installed the v10 dac fix?
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The U11 Audio Thread, Standard adapter and third part USB Amp/DAC

This thread is to discuss the audio quality on the HTC U11 with the standard 3.5mm adapter or in use with a third party Amp/DAC.
Please post your findings and solutions with the gear you have used and Apps.

Okay did some extensive testing and research on third party Amp/dac with several devices.
All has to do with Android and their generic USB host audio drivers. As mentioned in a lot of headfi threads.
Apps like Deezer and Spotify or "normal" music players will use those Generic Android USB host audio drivers. Also with external third party dac.
In the Neutron Audio player you can see which driver it will use when sending out Audio. On the LG G4 3.5mm output its (audiotrack) JNI and also on the U11 with the HTC adapter.
On the G4 with Neutron it has the sound signature as with normal players with 3.5mm output.
On the U11 playing with Neutron it has also the same sound signature when streaming with Deezer or Spotify.
In Neutron you can select Audio USB device, and in my case the Dragonfly Black. If you select this in the settings Audio Gain is much higher and headphones comes to live. So it benefits the Dragonfly DAC. Also you can see in the output screen its playing through Dragonfly. Bypassing the Generic Host Driver.
On Deezer/Spotify or other player you will slightly here some difference (with third party DAC )in sound quality but its barely noticable. Because Android uses the JNI Audio. And audio output volume is the same .
So conclussion: if you have music stored locally on your U11 and you play it through Neutron, Onkyo HF player or the great USB Audio Player.
Yes you will benefit from an external Third party DAC.
Otherwise you will barely not...
These are my findings with the U11 (without root) and Dragonfly. Maybe for the Fiio K1 its different but suppose not.

I'll share my findings here when I'll get my hifime sabre 9018 type C dac, should be here in two weeks.
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*justintime* said:
Okay did some extensive testing and research on third party Amp/dac with several devices.
All has to do with Android and their generic USB host audio drivers. As mentioned in a lot of headfi threads.
Apps like Deezer and Spotify or "normal" music players will use those Generic Android USB host audio drivers. Also with external third party dac.
In the Neutron Audio player you can see which driver it will use when sending out Audio. On the LG G4 3.5mm output its (audiotrack) JNI and also on the U11 with the HTC adapter.
On the G4 with Neutron it has the sound signature as with normal players with 3.5mm output.
On the U11 playing with Neutron it has also the same sound signature when streaming with Deezer or Spotify.
In Neutron you can select Audio USB device, and in my case the Dragonfly Black. If you select this in the settings Audio Gain is much higher and headphones comes to live. So it benefits the Dragonfly DAC. Also you can see in the output screen its playing through Dragonfly. Bypassing the Generic Host Driver.
On Deezer/Spotify or other player you will slightly here some difference (with third party DAC )in sound quality but its barely noticable. Because Android uses the JNI Audio. And audio output volume is the same .
So conclussion: if you have music stored locally on your U11 and you play it through Neutron, Onkyo HF player or the great USB Audio Player.
Yes you will benefit from an external Third party DAC.
Otherwise you will barely not...
These are my findings with the U11 (without root) and Dragonfly. Maybe for the Fiio K1 its different but suppose not.
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I have the Dragonfly Black and thinking of getting the Fiio k1. I'm assuming I need a USB A to USB-C cable. I plan to mainly use my Sony MDR-7506s. They didn't sound bad using the included adapter, but I think I can get a little better sound.
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rmc6901 said:
I have the Dragonfly Black and thinking of getting the Fiio k1. I'm assuming I need a USB A to USB-C cable. I plan to mainly use my Sony MDR-7506s. They didn't sound bad using the included adapter, but I think I can get a little better sound.
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Yes you will need a USB C OTG USB A adapter. And you are ready to go.
My advice first try out your Dragonfly. If you are satisfied with the sound.
Where do you want it for? Which apps?
I think Soundwise it's a downgrade from Dragonfly to Fiio. But hey if it supports Spotify or Deezer? Thats my main goal.

*justintime* said:
Okay did some extensive testing and research on third party Amp/dac with several devices.
All has to do with Android and their generic USB host audio drivers. As mentioned in a lot of headfi threads.
Apps like Deezer and Spotify or "normal" music players will use those Generic Android USB host audio drivers. Also with external third party dac.
In the Neutron Audio player you can see which driver it will use when sending out Audio. On the LG G4 3.5mm output its (audiotrack) JNI and also on the U11 with the HTC adapter.
On the G4 with Neutron it has the sound signature as with normal players with 3.5mm output.
On the U11 playing with Neutron it has also the same sound signature when streaming with Deezer or Spotify.
In Neutron you can select Audio USB device, and in my case the Dragonfly Black. If you select this in the settings Audio Gain is much higher and headphones comes to live. So it benefits the Dragonfly DAC. Also you can see in the output screen its playing through Dragonfly. Bypassing the Generic Host Driver.
On Deezer/Spotify or other player you will slightly here some difference (with third party DAC )in sound quality but its barely noticable. Because Android uses the JNI Audio. And audio output volume is the same .
So conclussion: if you have music stored locally on your U11 and you play it through Neutron, Onkyo HF player or the great USB Audio Player.
Yes you will benefit from an external Third party DAC.
Otherwise you will barely not...
These are my findings with the U11 (without root) and Dragonfly. Maybe for the Fiio K1 its different but suppose not.
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Would these settings also be in PowerAmp by any chance. Looking to buy the DragonFly, Anker USB-C3.1 to USB 3.0 A Cable and Ivanky Aux Cable. Or should I be using the Neutron Player?
Honestly the supplied DAC hooked to a no-name brand 3.5mm to 3.5mm cable to my jeep sounds great as is. Volume on phone set at maybe 75% and Jeep volume maybe 75% as well and it is pretty loud and clear, Bass is booming and good highs. If many of you say an external DAc will greatly improve the audio, im all in. Summer is around the corner and sitting in traffic everyday needs windows down music up high.

schmeggy929 said:
Would these settings also be in PowerAmp by any chance. Looking to buy the DragonFly, Anker USB-C3.1 to USB 3.0 A Cable and Ivanky Aux Cable. Or should I be using the Neutron Player?
Honestly the supplied DAC hooked to a no-name brand 3.5mm to 3.5mm cable to my jeep sounds great as is. Volume on phone set at maybe 75% and Jeep volume maybe 75% as well and it is pretty loud and clear, Bass is booming and good highs. If many of you say an external DAc will greatly improve the audio, im all in. Summer is around the corner and sitting in traffic everyday needs windows down music up high.
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I have tested Poweramp but does also uses the normal USB Host Drivers.
You will have to switch to indeed Neutron Onkyo HF player or USB Audio Player. Which is the nicest IMO.
And yes if you will use those Apps with local music content (or Qobuz Tidal, Spotify and deezer are not supported in that app) its way better than standard adapter.

*justintime* said:
I have tested Poweramp but does also uses the normal USB Host Drivers.
You will have to switch to indeed Neutron Onkyo HF player or USB Audio Player. Which is the nicest IMO.
And yes if you will use those Apps with local music content (or Qobuz Tidal, Spotify and deezer are not supported in that app its way better than standard adapter.
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Ok sounds good, lol. Amazon says my goodies will be 115.00, not too bad for none bulky equipment.

So far I notice no difference between using the K1 on a high end PC and using it on my U11, as in I don't think the K1 cares which host driver is being used. Audio quality sounds the same on whatever device I pair the K1 with.
Just installed Neutron, comparing standard JNI driver and K1 driver, if there is any change, my ears cannot hear it. There is a subtle difference and I do me subtle difference between neutron and Spotify but I feel that is due to all of Neutron correction features etc. Either way, I can't tell which sounds better and there is no way I am trying to source 4000 songs just to play on Neutron for an inconceivable difference

This is weird. I installed USB audio player pro and as a result, I could get no audio through headphones using power amp or neutron. I had to uninstall usb audio player and then I got sound back. Any ideas? I restarted, but that didn't help. Usb audio player looked pretty good, but I couldn't figure out how to display album art.
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rmc6901 said:
This is weird. I installed USB audio player pro and as a result, I could get no audio through headphones using power amp or neutron. I had to uninstall usb audio player and then I got sound back. Any ideas? I restarted, but that didn't help. Usb audio player looked pretty good, but I couldn't figure out how to display album art.
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Just bought USB Audio Player Pro today. No issue and works good. Gain and eq is nice. Played music from stock DAC cable to Jeep the whole 1 1/2 hour ride home, no issues(music from sdcard). Just tried with stock earphones and music plays fine in PowerAmp.

Thanks. I'll give it another try. I might have changed a setting that affected the other players.
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Just using HTCs cheaper headphones I bought a couple months back. They sound pretty decent to me, but I can definitely hear the volume difference between 11 and 10. I'm hoping that HTC could add back the option to have custom profiles for different headphones/audio setups.

Galactus said:
So far I notice no difference between using the K1 on a high end PC and using it on my U11, as in I don't think the K1 cares which host driver is being used. Audio quality sounds the same on whatever device I pair the K1 with.
Just installed Neutron, comparing standard JNI driver and K1 driver, if there is any change, my ears cannot hear it. There is a subtle difference and I do me subtle difference between neutron and Spotify but I feel that is due to all of Neutron correction features etc. Either way, I can't tell which sounds better and there is no way I am trying to source 4000 songs just to play on Neutron for an inconceivable difference
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That could be a good sign that it's ignoring the universal USB host drivers for audio.
My K1 should arrive today. Let's hope it will work out.

Guys, don't you think we should talk about this in main thread as I wrote my thoughts about it? It would be tough to follow two threads which I'm sure gonna forget after a while. Also Hamdir confirms that we should be in main thread too.

And it would be good to talk about tricks and mods for the HTC adapter not only third party DAC :fingers-crossed:

It's getting crazier day by day. Received a usb c to micro usb cable without OTG.
Now the blue led from the K1 doesn't come on.
Tomorrow to a shop to try some cables...

Well just recieved the DragonFly Black v1.5 along with an Anker USB-C OTC Host data cable. Attached to phone and old HTC 3.5mm jack earphones and played a few songs through USB Audio Player Pro. The hardware volume is set at 50% and App volume is amazingly around 10% and its loud! Sounds is awesome too, will check tomorrow attached to Jeep Aux.

I'll have to grab a dragon fly black eventually. Just wondering what battery drain will be like. Hasn't been too much using the K1 but I know the Dragonfly can really pump out the volts

schmeggy929 said:
Well just recieved the DragonFly Black v1.5 along with an Anker USB-C OTC Host data cable. Attached to phone and old HTC 3.5mm jack earphones and played a few songs through USB Audio Player Pro. The hardware volume is set at 50% and App volume is amazingly around 10% and its loud! Sounds is awesome too, will check tomorrow attached to Jeep Aux.
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Great that it work out for you. Sound quality is indeed a lot better with a dedicated player like UAPP.

Oneplus5 and Google Home Bluetooth

Anyone else having an issue bluetooth streaming music to Google Home?
Audio plays just fine, but at a slower tempo than normal (and lower tone). I tried switching to a different bluetooth codec, no change.
This is the only device I stream to that has this issue.

WaxysDargle said:
Anyone else having an issue bluetooth streaming music to Google Home?
Audio plays just fine, but at a slower tempo than normal (and lower tone). I tried switching to a different bluetooth codec, no change.
This is the only device I stream to that has this issue.
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Exact same problem even after the latest update.

Same problem here, both on the 5 and 5T...
Very annoying..

I'm running the Oreo open beta 1 and Bluetooth streaming works to my Google Home Mini.
Maybe it's a bug with OOS 4.5.14. For now, you could try disabling Absolute Volume in Developer Settings and see if that works (I've seen cases where that fixes some Bluetooth issues)
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Same problem for me ?? OnePlus 5 running aosip nougat..
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